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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Moe_Tilden] #967220
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by dixiemafia
I just love how Moe is always here to tell us right from wrong. Yet he tells us nobody should tell a niece who to or not to date rolleyes whistle Hypocrite much?


A GROWN WOMAN. What age does an uncle stop getting involved in his niece's personal life, when she's 30? It's none of his business. It's not the 1800's anymore.


Please shut up.

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A GROWN WOMAN. What age does an uncle stop getting involved in his niece's personal life, when she's 30? It's none of his business. It's not the 1800's anymore.
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Agree, and certainly these Women today are a lot more independent and will not put up with interference certainly from an Uncle no matter who he thinks he is.


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #967239
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I also wanted to say this earlier when it was being said that Peter Gotti (LOL) was still official boss or still held sway.

That was easily proved false in operation Old Bridge. Gambino members are not allowed to cop pleas under the Gotti regime yet almost all did. Showing once and for all the Gottis are through running the Gambinos.

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #967240
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The murdered head of the Gambino crime family was buried on Staten Island on Tuesday after a service attended by a little more than a dozen mourners

https://nypost.com/2019/03/19/slain-mob-boss-frank-cali-laid-to-rest-as-authorities-look-on/


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Strax] #967245
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Originally Posted by Strax
The murdered head of the Gambino crime family was buried on Staten Island on Tuesday after a service attended by a little more than a dozen mourners

https://nypost.com/2019/03/19/slain-mob-boss-frank-cali-laid-to-rest-as-authorities-look-on/



Man even in death Cali kept a crazy low profile.

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #967247
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I'm honestly disappointed it wasn't a mob hit
I have been sort off "rooting" for Cali, like how he operated.
For him to go out like this, is a true bummer
Weirdest mob hit ever


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #967250
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Why so few mourners at Cali's funeral? Does this suggest he'd fallen out of favor with his associates? You'd think a guy with that power would have hundreds of people he'd done business with attending his funeral. Perhaps it was deliberate to avoid more of a spotlight considering the high profile murder case. Interesting nonetheless.

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: FrankValenti] #967259
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Originally Posted by FrankValenti
Why so few mourners at Cali's funeral? Does this suggest he'd fallen out of favor with his associates? You'd think a guy with that power would have hundreds of people he'd done business with attending his funeral. Perhaps it was deliberate to avoid more of a spotlight considering the high profile murder case. Interesting nonetheless.


I think it's just a new era, similar to what Joe Massino tried doing years ago, shut down the social clubs, no funerals, don't speak any names....low key. I don't see it as him falling out of favor, I think its just with the circus surrounding the killing it would be better to stay away. Immediate family only. That's my guess. For my own selfish reasons I was hoping everyone would turn out for it as its exciting to see....


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: UncleVig] #967260
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Originally Posted by UncleVig


OC have done business with terrorists at home and in Italy. They have no standards about who they do business with.

Immediately after 9/11 they were thinking of ways to make money off that terrorist attack.


So making money by bid rigging waste removal is working with terrorists? If you use that insane logic the the military was working with terrorists and the fireman working overtime along with every contractor doing military work post 9/11.
Most wise guys I have known of are very patriotic Americans, many wereWWII , Korean, Vietnam Vets.
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Don't know american wise guys but in italy they've done stuff i can't understand. I.e. Bidognetti and Sandokan (Casalesi), have thousands of tons of toxic waste buried in their region (caserta and napoli). Clan members have told them a the time (90ies) that they are all poisoning their people, their land and their water. The answer was, we don't give a fu*k we only drink water from the bottles we buy. In Italy newspaper say that the Ndrangheta has regular meetings with islamic terrorists and also many fake passports, id's etc have been produced in naples.

I go back to Frank Cali, I feel really sorry for the kids, no kids deserve to see their father die like they did. But I don't see any revenge coming, I mean in New York rats walk around and nobody touches them. Everybody knows where this rats work or live and nothing happens. Why should they revenge now?

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #967261
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probaly have the mercy meal/celebration of life and fund raiser for the kids and family down the road. probaly at some big hall or golf course. gigante had a small mass for family. think that been the way. john gotti had a huge funeral with a ton of flowers and cars alot of madfe guys showed up. massino told most of his guys not to go and he didnt

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imagine this theory... members of the same or another family knew of his mental instability and also knew of his obsession of the niece and blame it solely on the uncle and steer him into believing the only way to have her is to carry out this elaborate execution guiding him the entire way possibly even providing the piece or an "easy way" to acquire one and a wacko stalker takes out the ub taking all speculation and spotlight away from the 5...

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #967263
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Suspect in murder of Gambino mob boss unhinged, ran pro-Trump Instagram

https://nypost.com/2019/03/19/suspe...b-boss-unhinged-ran-pro-trump-instagram/


"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #967264
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anyone recognize the pallbearers? or they workers from the funeral home.

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he was very close to jack d'amico. he proposed him made him capo and groomed him. is he still alive

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #967267
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Cali associates came in with a suitcase and paid $45,000 in cash for burial spot

It’s a burial spot to die for — and bought in true Mafia style.

Slain Gambino crime family boss Francesco “Franky Boy’’ Cali was laid to rest in a white-pillared, red-marble mausoleum on Staten Island on Tuesday — after his associates “came in with a suitcase on Saturday and paid my boss $45,000 in cash,’’ a gravedigger there told The Post.

“He’s up in the mausoleum, in the middle section,’’ the longtime worker said of Cali’s final resting place at the Moravian Cemetery, pointing to the top of a sprawling hill where the murdered mob chief now occupies a space on the lower level of the two-tiered structure — with a view of the ocean.

About three dozen long-stemmed white roses were scattered in front of Cali’s crypt, which bore a temporary white-tape label that read “FRANCESCO CALI 1965 2019.’’

The worker said that after Cali’s entombment, the small group of people who attended it walked down to the parking area, which is near the cemetery’s chapel and office.

“Some guy from ABC was asking a question in the office. And [a] mob guy said, ‘Get the f–k out of here before I blow your f–king head off,’ ” the worker said, chuckling.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/19/mafia-allegedly-paid-45k-in-cash-for-mob-boss-burial-spot/

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: BugsyM] #967272
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Originally Posted by BugsyM
“Some guy from ABC was asking a question in the office. And [a] mob guy said, ‘Get the f–k out of here before I blow your f–king head off,’ ” the worker said, chuckling.


LMAO. There we go. True MF goomba right there. In all seriousness, let's see if they keep that same energy when Anthony Comello is vulnerable.

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: pmac] #967291
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Originally Posted by pmac
sc if you would close the thread. cali's murder was solved i guess it wasnt the 2500kilos of blow on the jersey port or the 10000000 pounds of illegal pork from china. this thread is dead


Dead? As far as i see discussion is still going, also people will use this thread to discuss Frank Cali pre murder or maybe who took his position now, instead of opening 5+ new threads.

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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #967292
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Anyway lets get back on topic , i think they won't touch his family , too risky to kill innocent civilian these days , but they are going to try to get him killed in prison.


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Originally Posted by Mooney

I think it's just a new era, similar to what Joe Massino tried doing years ago, shut down the social clubs, no funerals, don't speak any names....low key. I don't see it as him falling out of favor, I think its just with the circus surrounding the killing it would be better to stay away. Immediate family only. That's my guess. For my own selfish reasons I was hoping everyone would turn out for it as its exciting to see....


Agreed, they probably didn't want to make a big spectacle for the FBI or newspapers.

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Originally Posted by Strax
Anyway lets get back on topic , i think they won't touch his family , too risky to kill innocent civilian these days , but they are going to try to get him killed in prison.


I don't think anyone from the mob even has to try get that kid killed, a lot of inmates will probably be looking to do it on their own initiative to try to get in good with the Gambinos.

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Originally Posted by Fleming_Ave
Originally Posted by Strax
Anyway lets get back on topic , i think they won't touch his family , too risky to kill innocent civilian these days , but they are going to try to get him killed in prison.


I don't think anyone from the mob even has to try get that kid killed, a lot of inmates will probably be looking to do it on their own initiative to try to get in good with the Gambinos.


Exactly. Freddy Geas killed Whitey on spec. And he got people instantly putting $ on his books like Howie Carr.Anyone linked to OC especially lifers will whack this cock sucking scumbag swiftly and live like a king (inside I mean before someone says a smart ass remark) with plenty of $ on his books if he pulls it off.

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The MAGA stuff is probably his way of building up an insanity plea...


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Originally Posted by WhackWhack
Originally Posted by Fleming_Ave
Originally Posted by Strax
Anyway lets get back on topic , i think they won't touch his family , too risky to kill innocent civilian these days , but they are going to try to get him killed in prison.


I don't think anyone from the mob even has to try get that kid killed, a lot of inmates will probably be looking to do it on their own initiative to try to get in good with the Gambinos.


Exactly. Freddy Geas killed Whitey on spec. And he got people instantly putting $ on his books like Howie Carr.Anyone linked to OC especially lifers will whack this cock sucking scumbag swiftly and live like a king (inside I mean before someone says a smart ass remark) with plenty of $ on his books if he pulls it off.


100%. I’ve seen a few instances of guys paying lifers to fuck up a CO for disrespecting them at a visit or fucking up a hustle or two. If a guy is going home one day and has a big bankroll it’s easy as hell to pay someone who’s never going home to do some dirt. The lifer who gets paid just looks at it as a simple business transaction. They sit in the SHU or get transferred to a different prison but still get to spend the money once they finish the disciplinary process. This kid won’t make it to 27-28. He’s finished.

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Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Don't flatter yourself Moe, I don't read enough of your worthless posts to know you even admitted to such.

Like I said, you're rambling. You need to take something to STFU.

And it has nothing to do with mental illness, it has to do with idiots who post stupid shit just to get reactions out of people. Don't get mad now because someone shoved your self serving bullshit back in your face. Learn that families here in the States look after each other instead of trying to tell us different. You have no fucking clue what happens over here obviously but yet here you are trying to tell us how we should act and what we should do. Take this lesson to learn instead of opening your big fucking mouth again.


tbh, it's really not a middle class custom in this country for extended family like uncles to be defensive of young women. Typically it's just the father, and even then it's mostly limited to stern advice. Unless in the case of an emergency, where even then it's typically handled through legal channels. That being said, I would agree that among the lower and working class it's definitely more common for uncles to aggressively defend nieces.


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Originally Posted by BugsyM


How the hell do they not mention Carlo Gambino? A ton of people turned out for that one. That was a big one.

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
The MAGA stuff is probably his way of building up an insanity plea...




Too funny !

When white folks don’t like status quo we send in someone to turn it upsidedown and send it back 30 years .... be careful the next time it may a arms situation .


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Inside Gambino mob boss Francesco Cali's $45,000 funeral

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...boss-Francesco-Calis-45-000-funeral.html


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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
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They took his Facebook down already, this guy whacked a boss? What's the world coming to? He wouldn't have the balls to whack a Blood or Crip..
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/anthony-comello-1.jpg


What a sad world. This kid looks like the softest frat boy posing after 7 jager bombs at some state school upstate his parents paid for him to flunk out of. How in the world did this cocksucker get away with this? Very, very strange. This pussy really took out the boss of the most powerful crime family in America. LCN is officially dead as of this day.


In all fairness he looks like a strapping young guy. Whereas Cali, like a lot of mob bosses, looks short and dumpy. Who do you think would win in a fistfight? Carlo Gambino was the most powerful boss ever and an asthmatic kid would probably have more endurance than him or his son; the guy would've shit his pants if Carmine Galante was alone in a room with him. Anthony Casso got battered in prison once he started acting up and lost the aura that being high up in the mafia gave him.

Angelo Bruno and Paul Castellano didn't get to the top by virtue of what they did with their fists. Nor Frank Costello before that; look how quickly he noped out of the life after his life was threatened.

I suppose it's not the physical threat posed by these people that makes them a force to be reckoned with. It's the knowledge that they can snap their fingers and have someone do whatever they want to you. With no conscience or remorse.


I don't disagree with anything you stated. I just want to add a few things or expand on a few issues.

It's easy to assume and expect that the power and reputation and fear afforded by being a high-ranking organized crime guy automatically follows that guy into every situation, everywhere, acting as a shield against any type of threat or attack. But obviously, that doesn't always happen. Sick nut cases lack the sanity to be wary of or impressed by the very things that would keep sane people in check (namely, the possibility of doing jail time, suffering retribution, or even being murdered -- not to mention having a guilty conscience and not being able to sleep at night -- as most sane people probably couldn't live with themselves after committing cold-blooded murder). What happened to Cali could easily happen to anyone. That could have been anyone's uncle or dad or brother who got shot, but since it was a high-level mob guy, the event is much more shocking -- mainly due to the fact that most sane people understand that shooting or killing a mob boss is one of the stupidest and most dangerous things a person could probably do -- and anyone who does that is likely very deranged and therefore very dangerous. Nut cases are some of the most dangerous and unpredictable people in existence. The guys who shoot up schools and movie theaters and shopping malls are very hard to prepare for and protect against.

And physical strength is, in my opinion, not much an issue nowadays. Being physically strong and having physical prowess and/or fighting skills is probably the least important it has ever been throughout human existence. The world, generally speaking, is probably the safest it has ever been, at least in the First World, and since most of us don't have to go hunt our own food and defend our own properties and fight off wild animals any more like our ancestors, we have no need to focus on being physically strong and capable (although many people still are).

And organized crime groups work by having an army of violent criminals at their disposal willing to main and kill, not by having a team of UFC fighters or pro boxers at their disposal ready to go assault people. Many guys on here act as if it's shocking when a mafia member or even a mafia boss gets assaulted or loses a one-on-one fight with someone, as if simply having the title of "mobster" or "mafia boss" equates to being a high-level, accomplished fighter or some all-around physical brute. But like you stated, many mob guys are physically unimposing and not particularly physically strong or capable. I doubt the average organized crime member spends his days at the gym pumping iron, hitting the bag, and training for one-on-one combat.

In reality, many suburban dads and local gym members and various weekend-warrior athletes could probably kick the crap out of many mob guys, but they wouldn't do that because of the threat of retaliation. I don't think John Gotti's reputation and clout were built and sustained because of any great physical prowess that Gotti possessed (although we do hear stories of how Gotti was supposedly good with his fists -- but how much of that is urban legend?) I doubt Carlo Gambino could fight his way out of a wet paper bag, but MANY people feared and respected him -- and for good reason.

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