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1979 Ravenite Surveillance #962378
01/25/19 04:02 PM
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Most of us who have seen many documentaries and read jerry capecis books know that from april-august of 1979 there was pretty heavy surveillance of The Ravenite Social club. It was interesting because it was a time when the Gambinos and the mob in general were pretty strong and the gov't was in the beginning stages of video surveillance. The reason I bring this up is because im in the process of editing all the clips along with the dates and mobsters in the videos. I will give a list below of what I have so far along with a brief description. If anybody else finds any footage I have missed let me know. Thanks Guys


April 10 1979- This is probably the earliest one I have. Its been shown a good deal is docs, most recently the newer Junior Gotti doc. This one shows Gotti exiting the club along with Willie Boy and a few other associates im still trying to identify. Also Armond "Buddy" Dellacroce appears.

May 10, 1979- This one is shows both Gotti and Angelo talking outside the club to an associate. Buddy Dellacroce also appears in this footage.


May 14, 1979- This one is of Neil Dellacroce holding court outside the club. Buddy and later Gene Gotti some out to talk to Neil. Two days after this Neil is arrested and indicted along with Anthony Plate for the 1974 murder of Charles Calise. Later in August the Bergin crew murders Plate and Neil beats the case.

June 14 1979- This is another Gotti one talking outsider wearing shades.

July 12,1979- This one is pretty big. Right after Galante is whacked Sonny Red,phil lucky Stefano Cannone,and Bruno meet Neil at the Ravenite and are congratulated for the successful hit.

July 30,1979- This is a brief clip of Gotti outside the club

August 3 1979- Another very brief clip in which I havent been able to identify anybody yet.



Well thats what I got so far. Like I said any dates I missed or any mistakes I made feel free to let me know. I plan to post it when finished.

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance [Re: JCrusher] #962381
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Looking forward to seeing it JCrusher.

I've seen a bunch of the documentaries and probably have seen those you listed but it will probably be easier to help once we actually see the footage. The only one I can picture in my mind is the one after the Galante hit.

Like I said I've probably seen those you listed but at least for me the descriptions don't help in matching up what I've seen and haven't.

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance [Re: Michael_Giovanni] #962383
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Originally Posted by Michael_Giovanni
Looking forward to seeing it JCrusher.

I've seen a bunch of the documentaries and probably have seen those you listed but it will probably be easier to help once we actually see the footage. The only one I can picture in my mind is the one after the Galante hit.

Like I said I've probably seen those you listed but at least for me the descriptions don't help in matching up what I've seen and haven't.

Yeah I agree with you. Im trying to get it done but between work and stuff its taking a bit longer. I tried to describe it as best as I could but you are right its tough unless you can see it

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance [Re: JCrusher] #962385
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Looking forward to this. Actually in the middle of reading Mob Star for the first time right now.

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance [Re: irishkaos] #962391
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Originally Posted by irishkaos
Looking forward to this. Actually in the middle of reading Mob Star for the first time right now.

Terrific. They do mention it in that book

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance [Re: JCrusher] #962424
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I would live to see Bruno being congratulated for the Galante hit in its entirety. Good stuff JCrusher!

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Sounds great. Looking forward to it JCrusher.

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance [Re: Jshov31] #962586
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Originally Posted by Jshov31
I would live to see Bruno being congratulated for the Galante hit in its entirety. Good stuff JCrusher!

You can see the video online at YouTube, it was in a Geraldo Rivera documentary from 85 0r 86. I think it was called sons of scarface.
The clip is very brief. It shows Stevie beef cannons, congratulating sonny red and bruno outside on mulberry street. Bruno looks very wound up, jacked on blow probably a d someone gives him a cigarette , and he goes out of frame.

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Patiently waiting 2 c ur work..Thanx in advance , sounds interesting.


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why are you just doing 1979? im sure theres tons of photos from 77 78 80 ect. we know there probaly vaults of video tapes there when gotti took over. it was really stopid, what did he think it was the boys club for lcn members. i mean theres alot of those clubs but to ask every member 200 to visit was dumb. but if chin told his guys to go to the tringle they went surposely it fit like 10 guys

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Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance [Re: pmac] #962792
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Originally Posted by pmac
why are you just doing 1979? im sure theres tons of photos from 77 78 80 ect. we know there probaly vaults of video tapes there when gotti took over. it was really stopid, what did he think it was the boys club for lcn members. i mean theres alot of those clubs but to ask every member 200 to visit was dumb. but if chin told his guys to go to the tringle they went surposely it fit like 10 guys

1979 is when they were doing particular surveillance at the Ravenite. If they were doing it in 78 or the early 80s i havent found it

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
Originally Posted by pmac
why are you just doing 1979? im sure theres tons of photos from 77 78 80 ect. we know there probaly vaults of video tapes there when gotti took over. it was really stopid, what did he think it was the boys club for lcn members. i mean theres alot of those clubs but to ask every member 200 to visit was dumb. but if chin told his guys to go to the tringle they went surposely it fit like 10 guys

1979 is when they were doing particular surveillance at the Ravenite. If they were doing it in 78 or the early 80s i havent found it

That is true, a lot (most) of the footage I've seen is of that year ..then a little in the late 80s , early 90s which consists of Sammy & John Sr. ...and an umbrella.LOL.


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Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance [Re: hoodlum] #962862
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
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Originally Posted by pmac
why are you just doing 1979? im sure theres tons of photos from 77 78 80 ect. we know there probaly vaults of video tapes there when gotti took over. it was really stopid, what did he think it was the boys club for lcn members. i mean theres alot of those clubs but to ask every member 200 to visit was dumb. but if chin told his guys to go to the tringle they went surposely it fit like 10 guys

1979 is when they were doing particular surveillance at the Ravenite. If they were doing it in 78 or the early 80s i havent found it

That is true, a lot (most) of the footage I've seen is of that year ..then a little in the late 80s , early 90s which consists of Sammy & John Sr. ...and an umbrella.LOL.

Yeah i believe somebody posted the 1988-90 surveillance on youtube a few years back


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