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Re: Are most organized crime members poor?
[Re: SharpieOne]
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12/16/18 08:26 PM
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I seem to remember during the Dino Saracino/Gioeli trial that Saracino made about 50K a year. It was based on some gambling slips in his Jeep, something his wife said on wiretap? I could be wrong. For those of you not in NYC, that is enough money to live just about above the poverty line, unless you've got some housing set up. I do think that Dino was living in his parents old house in Bensonhurst, so if he wasn't paying an exorbitant mortgage, 50K isn't awful for not having to work a 9-5. But now he's locked up until he's an old man.
This generation in NYC might be the last one that kind of inherits their parents homes that were bought at a modest price. So many end up selling now, their kids moving somewhere south, and pretty soon, there will be very few old NYC families with homes in their lineage. At that point, 50K is nothing.
I don't think most made soldiers running a few agents, overseeing a book, putting some money on the street make much more than a mid to upper class living. The person who owns the book, hires someone to run it, and has 100K on the street is making good money, but there's a reason recruiting pools scrape at the bottom of the barrel. Anyone who goes to a SUNY school, works hard, spends 5 years working their way up in a company -- they are going to end up making much more than 50K a year in NYC. It's the guys who don't graduate high school, don't want to apprentice for a trade who are left turning to a life of crime, and the dividends in the end aren't much. But how that can be possible is beyond my imaginations. 50k a year im telling you in Sweden in my city where im from, for a criminal that is not much money. Many of the criminals here dont have 50k stacked up but thats because of they are all gamblers, junkies, big spenders. Those who spend have easily 100k-500k stacked up some even more. And this is a shit city believe me. If were are talking about Malmo, Gothenburg, Stockholm they make 50k in 3-4 months and some make that in a month... So when we talk about New York city which has more population than this whole fucking country i cant believe what im hearing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvN7fKmCoXA&has_verified=1this is a good video on a dealer in new york. 60k a week he says.
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Re: Are most organized crime members poor?
[Re: BlackFamily]
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12/16/18 08:45 PM
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@BlackFamily- The vendettas between cartel members does happen but it was mainly between the Sinaloa Cartel bosses where the structure is organized horizontally, the other groups like La Familia etc. Knights Templar and other have personal beefs or disputes between organizational controle and power. It's a power move most of the time or sometimes. Acknowledge, hence why I said some groups. Sinaloa is known to have internal disputes but major vendettas don't really happen unless family is involved like with the Beltran Leyvas and Chapo Guzman organization. But the run of the mill sicario can't really act outside their control or parameters. One of those run of the mill sicarios eventually did just that: Los Zetas. Like i said, Regardless of the group/association that criminals belong to their not immune to personal disputes which includes outside of criminal activities ( Daily life). The reason Los Zetas left or became powerful enough to become independent is because the Gulf Cartel back then gave too much dominion over their activities or rackets. That's why the Gulf Cartel now limits the power of any criminal group or association or expertise of area into a single division or divisons,
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