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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: MeyerLansky] #955863
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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
i think we discuss this hit more then the feds are grin


A mob hit happens and the crowd goes wild grin

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #955864
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@ M2W & Stax

My Source is the 2009 New York/New Jersey High Intensity Drug Trafficking report which stated that UBN members have been employed in " various capacities " by IOC ( Italian Organized Crime) & Albanian DTOs. This can be found via google.

That was the overview of the drug market in the NYC metro back in 2008 and that's proof that Albanians DO work with Black gang members/ racketeers. Money trumps any stereotypical perception of different criminal groups.

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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #955867
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Those who believe the Albanians never use outsiders for their dirty work have no idea what they are talking about. The Bronx isn't Europe lol

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #955879
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With all the stuff that went down prior to the hit” there must of been a shit load of talk on the street “ if the Feds and NYPD can not figure this one out they are bad .


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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #955881
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Isn’t it possible that if the hit was done by the Albanians (even with an outside shooter) that either the Bonannos or Lukes gave their approval? I mean, possible Albanians and Italians are working/scheming together on some rackets and both groups wanted Zottola gone.


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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #955911
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If he wasn't associated with one of the crime families it sends a very strong message to whoever is Italian and not kicking up.Its like "You pay us or we wont be able to protect you from other criminals"

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #955936
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Hey, here's a new thought, maybe the bonannos is waiting for the nose to come home to give the nod, starting a potential war is a big decision


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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #955939
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Pretty crazy they had this blood member shelz indicted by the feds 3 days after the murder. So the shooter who shot the son 2 months ago flipped they must have known there was a open contract on the father wonder why they didnt grab shelz before the father had his last happy meal

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #955973
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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Those who believe the Albanians never use outsiders for their dirty work have no idea what they are talking about. The Bronx isn't Europe lol


I agree even in Holland they are working with others, including Dutch. Also the Albanians are no more violent than any others.


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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: pmac] #956018
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I thought that too. Might be a scandal waiting to come out. Saying that if Diane giaclone can have willy boy murdered I’m sure nothing will come from an aging wise guy getting whacked at a mcds.

Watched travoltas gotti the other day. They wanted him so bad they were willing to sacrifice rats for him. She should’ve been dismissed for that move.

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: Neo] #956134
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Originally Posted by Neo
I highly doubt the Zottola's were protected by the Bonannos. It's just suicide whacking their earners.

The Luccheses on the other hand.....I don't know, their top guys are in lockup.


Those shoes are already filled.

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: Serpiente] #956135
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Originally Posted by Serpiente
With all the stuff that went down prior to the hit” there must of been a shit load of talk on the street “ if the Feds and NYPD can not figure this one out they are bad .


These Bloods and Crips rat on each other almost instantly if the Feds over them a deal.

No doubt in a very short period of time well have the 411

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #956136
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Originally Posted by Serpiente
With all the stuff that went down prior to the hit” there must of been a shit load of talk on the street “ if the Feds and NYPD can not figure this one out they are bad .


These Bloods and Crips rat on each other almost instantly if the Feds over them a deal.

No doubt in a very short period of time well have the 411

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: BensonHURST] #956162
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by Serpiente
With all the stuff that went down prior to the hit” there must of been a shit load of talk on the street “ if the Feds and NYPD can not figure this one out they are bad .


These Bloods and Crips rat on each other almost instantly if the Feds over them a deal.

No doubt in a very short period of time well have the 411


Not all the time.


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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: BensonHURST] #956166
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by Serpiente
With all the stuff that went down prior to the hit” there must of been a shit load of talk on the street “ if the Feds and NYPD can not figure this one out they are bad .


These Bloods and Crips rat on each other almost instantly if the Feds over them a deal.

No doubt in a very short period of time well have the 411


Street gangs in general rat on each other all the time.

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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #958352
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Any news on the Zottola hit? Two members of bloods and crips in jail now but who or what is behind the hit? If the albanians are behind this hit, like many newspaper say, than i want to see how the Italians react.....

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #958355
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We are all waiting for ‏information...

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: Rigatoni777] #958363
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Originally Posted by Rigatoni777
Any news on the Zottola hit? Two members of bloods and crips in jail now but who or what is behind the hit? If the albanians are behind this hit, like many newspaper say, than i want to see how the Italians react.....

maybe the italians sourced the contract to the albanians and they went to the bloods
they have to hope albanians would not sing too like the blacks

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: Rigatoni777] #958381
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Originally Posted by Rigatoni777
Any news on the Zottola hit? Two members of bloods and crips in jail now but who or what is behind the hit? If the albanians are behind this hit, like many newspaper say, than i want to see how the Italians react.....


What are the 2 Bloods & Crip have to do with this incident?


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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: m2w] #958383
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Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by Rigatoni777
Any news on the Zottola hit? Two members of bloods and crips in jail now but who or what is behind the hit? If the albanians are behind this hit, like many newspaper say, than i want to see how the Italians react.....

maybe the italians sourced the contract to the albanians and they went to the bloods
they have to hope albanians would not sing too like the blacks


In prison it´s pretty easy for the Italians to approach the Albanians and blacks.


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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #958394
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@BlackFamily, have a look on this article, https://pix11.com/2018/11/16/2nd-bloods-member-accused-in-murder-for-hire-hit-at-bronx-mcdonalds/

Like MeyerLansky says, let's wait for more information. But what happend with the Zottola's is just crazy....nearly half a dozen attempts to kill them and still nobody was able to protect them or take them out of sight ?!?!?
The newspapers are writing that the albanians want to muscle into the poker game business, doesn't sound like a contract from the Italians.....maybe newspapers write to much.

Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: Strax] #958406
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Originally Posted by Strax
Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by Serpiente
With all the stuff that went down prior to the hit” there must of been a shit load of talk on the street “ if the Feds and NYPD can not figure this one out they are bad .


These Bloods and Crips rat on each other almost instantly if the Feds over them a deal.

No doubt in a very short period of time well have the 411


Street gangs in general rat on each other all the time.


So do wiseguys.


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True , but street gangs much more. Just a bunch of low lives, im not saying mafia members are not low lives,they are. But street gangs are worst scum around,most of them earn some petty money and are happy if they get to live 25+ years.


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Originally Posted by Strax
True , but street gangs much more. Just a bunch of low lives, im not saying mafia members are not low lives,they are. But street gangs are worst scum around,most of them earn some petty money and are happy if they get to live 25+ years.


Most mobsters are only earning petty money, too. Wiseguys and gang members increasingly resemble each other by the day.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: OakAsFan] #958432
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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by Strax
True , but street gangs much more. Just a bunch of low lives, im not saying mafia members are not low lives,they are. But street gangs are worst scum around,most of them earn some petty money and are happy if they get to live 25+ years.


Most mobsters are only earning petty money, too. Wiseguys and gang members increasingly resemble each other by the day.


Again, It seems people forget that Oaks. Many of those mobsters are just street guys themselves. Hence why there's some mutual understanding between groups and again the key is money. All these broad generalizations or stereotypes of each group is soaked in what mainstream media display and not nearly real life accuracy.


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I'll bet the average mafia member has more respect for black street guys than they do for the mob groupies in their own neighborhoods. And definitely more than what they have for cops. Stand up thieves and racketeers share a bond.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Street gangs are called STREET for a reason.are u really comparing mafia and street gangs.Only thing they can control is local street corner, on the other side u have unions,construction,lucrative rackets and ofcourse there are connections to freemasonry

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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx [Re: Strax] #958439
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Originally Posted by Strax
Street gangs are called STREET for a reason.are u really comparing mafia and street gangs.Only thing they can control is local street corner, on the other side u have unions,construction,lucrative rackets and ofcourse there are connections to freemasonry


The type of name reflects the origin of the group generally here in the U.S. Street gang a group/organization that originated in the neighborhoods of a city. Similar to the themes of prison gang ( prisons) or biker gang ( bikes) , etc. That doesn't mean that street gangs activities are all tied to low level street activities exclusively.


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Originally Posted by Rigatoni777
@BlackFamily, have a look on this article, https://pix11.com/2018/11/16/2nd-bloods-member-accused-in-murder-for-hire-hit-at-bronx-mcdonalds/

Like MeyerLansky says, let's wait for more information. But what happend with the Zottola's is just crazy....nearly half a dozen attempts to kill them and still nobody was able to protect them or take them out of sight ?!?!?
The newspapers are writing that the albanians want to muscle into the poker game business, doesn't sound like a contract from the Italians.....maybe newspapers write to much.



I see now.


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so the feds know everything. the albanians who run the weed game ive notice( looking at you oak) in parts of the northeast so do the vietnamese who have cousins in cali. they wanted this guys slots weird. paying the bloods. just a bad look for lcn if this is true and this guy was a lcn earner under someones protections. encrouchment on the turf 101

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