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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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Would be interesting to get some more info on his dad and what he was into, when he was made etc. From blackhand forum http://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3712&hilit=bellomo+familyLiborio Bellomo from Corleone - Born May 1879. Died in the Bronx in February 1972. - May have come into the US in 1913, traveling with a Salvatore and Vincenzo Bellomo. - Had a relative named Joe Bellomo who lived at the same address on the westside of Manhattan circa late 1910s, where Liborio was working as a shoemaker. - Traveled to Sicily sometime in the early 1920s and arrived back in the US in 1923, said to have a wife named Giuseppa Catania and arriving to meet a brother-in-law named Bellomo. From his 1926 travels we know that a brother-in-law was named Salvatore Bellomo, so this is likely the same guy and possibly the same Salvatore Bellomo he traveled with in 1913. - In 1907, a Salvatore Bellomo (b. 1879) married a "Frane" Bellomo, said to be the daughter of another Salvatore Bellomo. This could explain why the brothers-in-law shared the same last name. Other records point to Liborio's father also being named Salvatore, so "Frane" may have been his sister. - Naturalized in 1933. - By WWII, he is a butcher living on 116th in East Harlem and lists his family contact as a Leo Bellomo. - A Liborio Bellomo returned to the US from a travel to Sicily in 1947, heading to a Brooklyn address. May not be him, but a Vincenzo Bellomo had settled in Brooklyn so if he did head to Brooklyn that might explain it. Liborio's possible mafia connections - During a 1926 return to the US from Sicily, Bonanno member Nicolo Guastella was on the same ship as Liborio Bellomo. Guastella had strong ties to San Jose and would later move there, and interestingly on the ship manifest Guastella is listed alongside two Sciortinos (Giovanni and Paolo) from Bagheria going to San Jose. The San Jose family's first known leaders were brothers Onofrio and Carmelo Sciortino from Bagheria so could be a relation to these ones. - A fellow Corleonese of Bellomo on the same 1926 manifest was Concetto Cannella said to be meeting his cousin Salvatore Bellomo near the Upper East Side, who Liborio Bellomo is listed as meeting as well, with Salvatore described as Liborio's brother-in-law. It would appear that Cannella and Bellomo were traveling together and relatives of one another given the mutual connection to Salvatore Bellomo. - There was an early NJ member of the Profaci familynamed Salvatore Cannella (b.1885) who was likely a Newark member before that. I can't find where he came from, but New Jersey had an early Corleonese boss so would be interesting if Salvatore Cannella was from Corleone like Concetto Cannella and if there is any connection. Edit: Salvatore Cannella's WWII registration lists his hometown as Palermo. - The 1940 US census record had Liborio Bellomo (b.1879) listed as a federal inmate in Springfield, MO at the time of the census. This means Liborio was involved in illegal activity of some kind while in his 50s or 60s which would lend itself to the idea of him being a mafioso or associate. - A Vincenzo Bellomo was also the son-in-law of Toto Riina, infamous Corleone boss. Obviously too young to be the same one that traveled with Liborio in 1913, but shows that these names are recurring. - JD mentioned that Charlie Majuri of the DeCavalcantes is a first cousin of the younger Liborio Bellomo. It can be more difficult to find modern records of these types of relations, so not sure what the specifics are, but it would imply that the relation is on Majuri's paternal side, which comes from Corleone (his mother's side is Riberesi). Some vague info points to Frank's father Calogero Majuri being involved in bootlegging in NJ and having previously lived in Corleonesi mafia areas of NYC before that, so he may have been a mafioso. Frank Majuri also used the alias "Frank Gagliano", the potential connection to early NYC Corleonesi with that name being pretty obvious. I haven't found any "familiar" Corleonesi surnames with the older generations of Bellomos, but if Charlie and Barney are first cousins it would mean a sibling of Frank's was married to a sibling of Barney's father or mother, or less likely, that Barney himself has some Ribera heritage and is related to Majuri's mother. Bellomo's father's brother Antonio was said to have married a sister of Barney's mother (which is why Barney and his cousin Liborio are "double cousins"), so the possibilities are fairly limited here and given the Corleone connection would suggest that the elder generation(s) of Bellomos and Majuris may have known one another. Salvatore Bellomo, father of Barney - Cafaro and Capeci implied that Barney's father Salvatore was a Genovese member who died in the 1970s. Closest SSDI match for Barney Bellomo's father is a "Salvatore Bellamo" b. April 25, 1915 who died in January 1980 (sometimes January dates indicate a rollover from 1979) in the Bronx. - An immigration record from 1932 has a Salvatore Bellomo matching this one's age arriving in the US, listing an address in East Harlem. Said to be born in NYC April 4th, 1915, so the month and year at least match the one who died in the Bronx ~1980. - A Salvatore Bellomo b.1915 arrived in the US in 1948 listing an address on 187th street in the Bronx. A name below it is scratched out but lists the same address. I can make out the first name Giuseppa and written below is "nee Catania", so this is clearly the Giuseppa Catania Bellomo, wife of Liborio of Corleone b.1879, listed as his wife in his 1913 manifest. Her age is listed as 63 and Salvatore's as 33, so given the context it seems a pretty good indication she is his mother, meaning that this Salvatore is also the son of Liborio (b.1879). This is supported by Liborio's father being named Salvatore and his son Salvatore naming his own son Liborio in the typical naming tradition. - Salvatore has a US passport while his mother has an Italian one, implying Salvatore was a US citizen, like the one who traveled in the early 1930s. - Edit: There may be some discrepancies with this bit. Giovanna would have been on the older side to be Barney's mother so it's not clear if she is his mother; given the number of Salvatore Bellomos from Corleone, there could be confusion but I'll keep the info here for now. Salvatore was married to Giovanna DiGillio/DiGiglio/DeGiglio in late 1936. Not sure where her father Giuseppe came from. Records show that Giovanna "Jennie" Bellomo lived at an address associated with Barney Bellomo's immediate relatives and available info points to her being his mother. - Despite rumors that Barney Bellomo and/or his father were born in Corleone, it's pretty clear they were both born in the US. However, Salvatore Bellomo and his father Liborio look to have traveled overseas quite a few times between them, so it appears they stayed close to their Sicilian roots at least through the 1940s. Salvatore's membership in the Genovese family - As Mentioned, Salvatore Bellomo was mentioned as a member of the Genovese family in the Saverio Santora crew (among other captains, not sure the timeline) at the time of his death by Fish Cafaro. This crew was very close to Tony Salerno. - To my knowledge, Salvatore Bellomo is not identified anywhere else as a member and would have gone completely unknown if not for his son's infamy and Cafaro's information. - The Santora crew seems to have had few members of Sicilian heritage by the 1970s, making Salvatore Bellomosomewhat of an outlier. However, before the non-Sicilian Coppola took over the crew in the 1930s, it was run by the Corleonese Ciro Terranova. - Many, if not most, Corleonesi went with the Reina/Gagliano family after Giuseppe Morello joined the Masseria family, bringing with him relatives like Ciro Terranova and what would seem to be a minority of Corleonesi who remained loyal to Morello. - The Genovese family, more than other families, tends to have more consistent crew assignments with fewer members (and their relatives) being moved around or assigned to random crews. Aside from examples of crews being split up or breaking off (and even then the crews seem to stay relatively consistent), my perception is that Genovese members tend to stay with the same crew for most of their lives. If Salvatore Bellomo was always with the former Terranova-Coppola crew and his father Liborio was indeed a mafioso, this could point to Liborio Bellomo(b. 1879) having been with the Terranova crew, which would make sense given they were both Corleonesi in a family that was increasingly non-Sicilian. - With the last two points in mind, it is very interesting that the Bellomos didn't end up being Lucchese members like many Corleonesi. This could imply that if Liborio Bellomob.1879 was a mafioso, he had a reason to stay loyal to Morello and Terranova. Relation, close friendship, business relationship? - Liborio's wife and Salvatore's mother had the surname Catania. Ciro Terranova's wife was also a Catania and his nephews Joe and Jimmy "Baker" Catania were mafiosi, with Joe Baker being infamously killed during the Castellammarese war. I can't find a relation between Giuseppa Catania Bellomo and the Terranova Catanias but it is oddly coincidental if nothing else that Salvatore Bellomo's mother was a Catania and he would be in this same crew.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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Would be interesting to get some more info on his dad and what he was into, when he was made etc. From blackhand forum http://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3712&hilit=bellomo+familyLiborio Bellomo from Corleone - Born May 1879. Died in the Bronx in February 1972. - May have come into the US in 1913, traveling with a Salvatore and Vincenzo Bellomo. - Had a relative named Joe Bellomo who lived at the same address on the westside of Manhattan circa late 1910s, where Liborio was working as a shoemaker. - Traveled to Sicily sometime in the early 1920s and arrived back in the US in 1923, said to have a wife named Giuseppa Catania and arriving to meet a brother-in-law named Bellomo. From his 1926 travels we know that a brother-in-law was named Salvatore Bellomo, so this is likely the same guy and possibly the same Salvatore Bellomo he traveled with in 1913. - In 1907, a Salvatore Bellomo (b. 1879) married a "Frane" Bellomo, said to be the daughter of another Salvatore Bellomo. This could explain why the brothers-in-law shared the same last name. Other records point to Liborio's father also being named Salvatore, so "Frane" may have been his sister. - Naturalized in 1933. - By WWII, he is a butcher living on 116th in East Harlem and lists his family contact as a Leo Bellomo. - A Liborio Bellomo returned to the US from a travel to Sicily in 1947, heading to a Brooklyn address. May not be him, but a Vincenzo Bellomo had settled in Brooklyn so if he did head to Brooklyn that might explain it. Liborio's possible mafia connections - During a 1926 return to the US from Sicily, Bonanno member Nicolo Guastella was on the same ship as Liborio Bellomo. Guastella had strong ties to San Jose and would later move there, and interestingly on the ship manifest Guastella is listed alongside two Sciortinos (Giovanni and Paolo) from Bagheria going to San Jose. The San Jose family's first known leaders were brothers Onofrio and Carmelo Sciortino from Bagheria so could be a relation to these ones. - A fellow Corleonese of Bellomo on the same 1926 manifest was Concetto Cannella said to be meeting his cousin Salvatore Bellomo near the Upper East Side, who Liborio Bellomo is listed as meeting as well, with Salvatore described as Liborio's brother-in-law. It would appear that Cannella and Bellomo were traveling together and relatives of one another given the mutual connection to Salvatore Bellomo. - There was an early NJ member of the Profaci familynamed Salvatore Cannella (b.1885) who was likely a Newark member before that. I can't find where he came from, but New Jersey had an early Corleonese boss so would be interesting if Salvatore Cannella was from Corleone like Concetto Cannella and if there is any connection. Edit: Salvatore Cannella's WWII registration lists his hometown as Palermo. - The 1940 US census record had Liborio Bellomo (b.1879) listed as a federal inmate in Springfield, MO at the time of the census. This means Liborio was involved in illegal activity of some kind while in his 50s or 60s which would lend itself to the idea of him being a mafioso or associate. - A Vincenzo Bellomo was also the son-in-law of Toto Riina, infamous Corleone boss. Obviously too young to be the same one that traveled with Liborio in 1913, but shows that these names are recurring. - JD mentioned that Charlie Majuri of the DeCavalcantes is a first cousin of the younger Liborio Bellomo. It can be more difficult to find modern records of these types of relations, so not sure what the specifics are, but it would imply that the relation is on Majuri's paternal side, which comes from Corleone (his mother's side is Riberesi). Some vague info points to Frank's father Calogero Majuri being involved in bootlegging in NJ and having previously lived in Corleonesi mafia areas of NYC before that, so he may have been a mafioso. Frank Majuri also used the alias "Frank Gagliano", the potential connection to early NYC Corleonesi with that name being pretty obvious. I haven't found any "familiar" Corleonesi surnames with the older generations of Bellomos, but if Charlie and Barney are first cousins it would mean a sibling of Frank's was married to a sibling of Barney's father or mother, or less likely, that Barney himself has some Ribera heritage and is related to Majuri's mother. Bellomo's father's brother Antonio was said to have married a sister of Barney's mother (which is why Barney and his cousin Liborio are "double cousins"), so the possibilities are fairly limited here and given the Corleone connection would suggest that the elder generation(s) of Bellomos and Majuris may have known one another. Salvatore Bellomo, father of Barney - Cafaro and Capeci implied that Barney's father Salvatore was a Genovese member who died in the 1970s. Closest SSDI match for Barney Bellomo's father is a "Salvatore Bellamo" b. April 25, 1915 who died in January 1980 (sometimes January dates indicate a rollover from 1979) in the Bronx. - An immigration record from 1932 has a Salvatore Bellomo matching this one's age arriving in the US, listing an address in East Harlem. Said to be born in NYC April 4th, 1915, so the month and year at least match the one who died in the Bronx ~1980. - A Salvatore Bellomo b.1915 arrived in the US in 1948 listing an address on 187th street in the Bronx. A name below it is scratched out but lists the same address. I can make out the first name Giuseppa and written below is "nee Catania", so this is clearly the Giuseppa Catania Bellomo, wife of Liborio of Corleone b.1879, listed as his wife in his 1913 manifest. Her age is listed as 63 and Salvatore's as 33, so given the context it seems a pretty good indication she is his mother, meaning that this Salvatore is also the son of Liborio (b.1879). This is supported by Liborio's father being named Salvatore and his son Salvatore naming his own son Liborio in the typical naming tradition. - Salvatore has a US passport while his mother has an Italian one, implying Salvatore was a US citizen, like the one who traveled in the early 1930s. - Edit: There may be some discrepancies with this bit. Giovanna would have been on the older side to be Barney's mother so it's not clear if she is his mother; given the number of Salvatore Bellomos from Corleone, there could be confusion but I'll keep the info here for now. Salvatore was married to Giovanna DiGillio/DiGiglio/DeGiglio in late 1936. Not sure where her father Giuseppe came from. Records show that Giovanna "Jennie" Bellomo lived at an address associated with Barney Bellomo's immediate relatives and available info points to her being his mother. - Despite rumors that Barney Bellomo and/or his father were born in Corleone, it's pretty clear they were both born in the US. However, Salvatore Bellomo and his father Liborio look to have traveled overseas quite a few times between them, so it appears they stayed close to their Sicilian roots at least through the 1940s. Salvatore's membership in the Genovese family - As Mentioned, Salvatore Bellomo was mentioned as a member of the Genovese family in the Saverio Santora crew (among other captains, not sure the timeline) at the time of his death by Fish Cafaro. This crew was very close to Tony Salerno. - To my knowledge, Salvatore Bellomo is not identified anywhere else as a member and would have gone completely unknown if not for his son's infamy and Cafaro's information. - The Santora crew seems to have had few members of Sicilian heritage by the 1970s, making Salvatore Bellomosomewhat of an outlier. However, before the non-Sicilian Coppola took over the crew in the 1930s, it was run by the Corleonese Ciro Terranova. - Many, if not most, Corleonesi went with the Reina/Gagliano family after Giuseppe Morello joined the Masseria family, bringing with him relatives like Ciro Terranova and what would seem to be a minority of Corleonesi who remained loyal to Morello. - The Genovese family, more than other families, tends to have more consistent crew assignments with fewer members (and their relatives) being moved around or assigned to random crews. Aside from examples of crews being split up or breaking off (and even then the crews seem to stay relatively consistent), my perception is that Genovese members tend to stay with the same crew for most of their lives. If Salvatore Bellomo was always with the former Terranova-Coppola crew and his father Liborio was indeed a mafioso, this could point to Liborio Bellomo(b. 1879) having been with the Terranova crew, which would make sense given they were both Corleonesi in a family that was increasingly non-Sicilian. - With the last two points in mind, it is very interesting that the Bellomos didn't end up being Lucchese members like many Corleonesi. This could imply that if Liborio Bellomob.1879 was a mafioso, he had a reason to stay loyal to Morello and Terranova. Relation, close friendship, business relationship? - Liborio's wife and Salvatore's mother had the surname Catania. Ciro Terranova's wife was also a Catania and his nephews Joe and Jimmy "Baker" Catania were mafiosi, with Joe Baker being infamously killed during the Castellammarese war. I can't find a relation between Giuseppa Catania Bellomo and the Terranova Catanias but it is oddly coincidental if nothing else that Salvatore Bellomo's mother was a Catania and he would be in this same crew. Are you not going to give B. any credit for his research Furious?
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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Would be interesting to get some more info on his dad and what he was into, when he was made etc. From blackhand forum http://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3712&hilit=bellomo+familyLiborio Bellomo from Corleone - Born May 1879. Died in the Bronx in February 1972. - May have come into the US in 1913, traveling with a Salvatore and Vincenzo Bellomo. - Had a relative named Joe Bellomo who lived at the same address on the westside of Manhattan circa late 1910s, where Liborio was working as a shoemaker. - Traveled to Sicily sometime in the early 1920s and arrived back in the US in 1923, said to have a wife named Giuseppa Catania and arriving to meet a brother-in-law named Bellomo. From his 1926 travels we know that a brother-in-law was named Salvatore Bellomo, so this is likely the same guy and possibly the same Salvatore Bellomo he traveled with in 1913. - In 1907, a Salvatore Bellomo (b. 1879) married a "Frane" Bellomo, said to be the daughter of another Salvatore Bellomo. This could explain why the brothers-in-law shared the same last name. Other records point to Liborio's father also being named Salvatore, so "Frane" may have been his sister. - Naturalized in 1933. - By WWII, he is a butcher living on 116th in East Harlem and lists his family contact as a Leo Bellomo. - A Liborio Bellomo returned to the US from a travel to Sicily in 1947, heading to a Brooklyn address. May not be him, but a Vincenzo Bellomo had settled in Brooklyn so if he did head to Brooklyn that might explain it. Liborio's possible mafia connections - During a 1926 return to the US from Sicily, Bonanno member Nicolo Guastella was on the same ship as Liborio Bellomo. Guastella had strong ties to San Jose and would later move there, and interestingly on the ship manifest Guastella is listed alongside two Sciortinos (Giovanni and Paolo) from Bagheria going to San Jose. The San Jose family's first known leaders were brothers Onofrio and Carmelo Sciortino from Bagheria so could be a relation to these ones. - A fellow Corleonese of Bellomo on the same 1926 manifest was Concetto Cannella said to be meeting his cousin Salvatore Bellomo near the Upper East Side, who Liborio Bellomo is listed as meeting as well, with Salvatore described as Liborio's brother-in-law. It would appear that Cannella and Bellomo were traveling together and relatives of one another given the mutual connection to Salvatore Bellomo. - There was an early NJ member of the Profaci familynamed Salvatore Cannella (b.1885) who was likely a Newark member before that. I can't find where he came from, but New Jersey had an early Corleonese boss so would be interesting if Salvatore Cannella was from Corleone like Concetto Cannella and if there is any connection. Edit: Salvatore Cannella's WWII registration lists his hometown as Palermo. - The 1940 US census record had Liborio Bellomo (b.1879) listed as a federal inmate in Springfield, MO at the time of the census. This means Liborio was involved in illegal activity of some kind while in his 50s or 60s which would lend itself to the idea of him being a mafioso or associate. - A Vincenzo Bellomo was also the son-in-law of Toto Riina, infamous Corleone boss. Obviously too young to be the same one that traveled with Liborio in 1913, but shows that these names are recurring. - JD mentioned that Charlie Majuri of the DeCavalcantes is a first cousin of the younger Liborio Bellomo. It can be more difficult to find modern records of these types of relations, so not sure what the specifics are, but it would imply that the relation is on Majuri's paternal side, which comes from Corleone (his mother's side is Riberesi). Some vague info points to Frank's father Calogero Majuri being involved in bootlegging in NJ and having previously lived in Corleonesi mafia areas of NYC before that, so he may have been a mafioso. Frank Majuri also used the alias "Frank Gagliano", the potential connection to early NYC Corleonesi with that name being pretty obvious. I haven't found any "familiar" Corleonesi surnames with the older generations of Bellomos, but if Charlie and Barney are first cousins it would mean a sibling of Frank's was married to a sibling of Barney's father or mother, or less likely, that Barney himself has some Ribera heritage and is related to Majuri's mother. Bellomo's father's brother Antonio was said to have married a sister of Barney's mother (which is why Barney and his cousin Liborio are "double cousins"), so the possibilities are fairly limited here and given the Corleone connection would suggest that the elder generation(s) of Bellomos and Majuris may have known one another. Salvatore Bellomo, father of Barney - Cafaro and Capeci implied that Barney's father Salvatore was a Genovese member who died in the 1970s. Closest SSDI match for Barney Bellomo's father is a "Salvatore Bellamo" b. April 25, 1915 who died in January 1980 (sometimes January dates indicate a rollover from 1979) in the Bronx. - An immigration record from 1932 has a Salvatore Bellomo matching this one's age arriving in the US, listing an address in East Harlem. Said to be born in NYC April 4th, 1915, so the month and year at least match the one who died in the Bronx ~1980. - A Salvatore Bellomo b.1915 arrived in the US in 1948 listing an address on 187th street in the Bronx. A name below it is scratched out but lists the same address. I can make out the first name Giuseppa and written below is "nee Catania", so this is clearly the Giuseppa Catania Bellomo, wife of Liborio of Corleone b.1879, listed as his wife in his 1913 manifest. Her age is listed as 63 and Salvatore's as 33, so given the context it seems a pretty good indication she is his mother, meaning that this Salvatore is also the son of Liborio (b.1879). This is supported by Liborio's father being named Salvatore and his son Salvatore naming his own son Liborio in the typical naming tradition. - Salvatore has a US passport while his mother has an Italian one, implying Salvatore was a US citizen, like the one who traveled in the early 1930s. - Edit: There may be some discrepancies with this bit. Giovanna would have been on the older side to be Barney's mother so it's not clear if she is his mother; given the number of Salvatore Bellomos from Corleone, there could be confusion but I'll keep the info here for now. Salvatore was married to Giovanna DiGillio/DiGiglio/DeGiglio in late 1936. Not sure where her father Giuseppe came from. Records show that Giovanna "Jennie" Bellomo lived at an address associated with Barney Bellomo's immediate relatives and available info points to her being his mother. - Despite rumors that Barney Bellomo and/or his father were born in Corleone, it's pretty clear they were both born in the US. However, Salvatore Bellomo and his father Liborio look to have traveled overseas quite a few times between them, so it appears they stayed close to their Sicilian roots at least through the 1940s. Salvatore's membership in the Genovese family - As Mentioned, Salvatore Bellomo was mentioned as a member of the Genovese family in the Saverio Santora crew (among other captains, not sure the timeline) at the time of his death by Fish Cafaro. This crew was very close to Tony Salerno. - To my knowledge, Salvatore Bellomo is not identified anywhere else as a member and would have gone completely unknown if not for his son's infamy and Cafaro's information. - The Santora crew seems to have had few members of Sicilian heritage by the 1970s, making Salvatore Bellomosomewhat of an outlier. However, before the non-Sicilian Coppola took over the crew in the 1930s, it was run by the Corleonese Ciro Terranova. - Many, if not most, Corleonesi went with the Reina/Gagliano family after Giuseppe Morello joined the Masseria family, bringing with him relatives like Ciro Terranova and what would seem to be a minority of Corleonesi who remained loyal to Morello. - The Genovese family, more than other families, tends to have more consistent crew assignments with fewer members (and their relatives) being moved around or assigned to random crews. Aside from examples of crews being split up or breaking off (and even then the crews seem to stay relatively consistent), my perception is that Genovese members tend to stay with the same crew for most of their lives. If Salvatore Bellomo was always with the former Terranova-Coppola crew and his father Liborio was indeed a mafioso, this could point to Liborio Bellomo(b. 1879) having been with the Terranova crew, which would make sense given they were both Corleonesi in a family that was increasingly non-Sicilian. - With the last two points in mind, it is very interesting that the Bellomos didn't end up being Lucchese members like many Corleonesi. This could imply that if Liborio Bellomob.1879 was a mafioso, he had a reason to stay loyal to Morello and Terranova. Relation, close friendship, business relationship? - Liborio's wife and Salvatore's mother had the surname Catania. Ciro Terranova's wife was also a Catania and his nephews Joe and Jimmy "Baker" Catania were mafiosi, with Joe Baker being infamously killed during the Castellammarese war. I can't find a relation between Giuseppa Catania Bellomo and the Terranova Catanias but it is oddly coincidental if nothing else that Salvatore Bellomo's mother was a Catania and he would be in this same crew. Are you not going to give B. any credit for his research Furious? Yes,I just knowed that Barney father born in 1915 and died in 1980 . So I think the rest is true.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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Another mystery! I reckon barney has done some crazy stuff that only admin know about. I mean where he has been shown to be fearless or brutal otherwise it doesn’t add up. This. No one has touched base about his character. He most likely made a remark or gesture which displayed fearlessness and they instantly took a liken to him, or he could of been a project like you said and used by the old guys for a specific thing. No one really knows what he's like. A tape of Barney would be helpful and possibly some info about his dad if he was a tough guy / who he was close to etc all these factors come into it. No offence MightyDR but when you said his dad was a soldier that doesn't mean shit
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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Doesn't he also have a cousin with the same name that even authorities have confused in the past? Yes they are double cousins. Their fathers were brothers and their mothers were sisters. They have different middle names though.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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Here is some great info from The blackhand forum. A poster named Wiseguy posted this. He summed up an old post from the old RD fourm. Credit goes to him for posting this.
* Barney's father was a made guy around Fat Tony. Barney came up under Sammy Santoro.
* Barney hung around a deli on Eastchester Rd. Had his own following since he was 16 years old. He volunteered as a kid to help the old timers with anything they needed and was given responsibility at a young age.
* One of the early jobs he had was managing a 2 table card room and he turned it into a cash cow with blackjack, craps, shy, book, hookers, etc. Barney was always business first. He also said to have a big numbers bank for his age. When Barney got involved with heroin trafficking, he sold by the key and his guys under him bought on credit and sold by the ounce. He was rumored to be a millionaire by the age of 25.
* Barney was rumored to have done his first couple hits (at the request of the older guys) at the age of 18 or 19.
* Guys around Barney included Nicky Auletta, Anthony Fiorino, Patty Falcetti, Lou Dinapoli, Ernie Mucarella and his brother Jimmy, Scop Deluca, Artie Nigro, Jimmy D'elia, Carmine Dellacava, Michael Ragusa, Ralph Coppola, and Barney's cousin of the same name who owned Sigma Builders.
* In addition to his involvement with the Javits Center and Carpenters Union, Barney also owned a sanitation company that cleaned sewers.
* Whereas Barney was always low key, Ralph Coppola was flashy. Barney was godfather to Ralph's first son.
* Barney was always surveillance-conscious and would have meetings in strange places, including in the front of cars with the hood up and the engine running, on medians and traffic islands, and at black clothing stores (where a fed would stand out).
* The last time this guy saw Barney in person was around White Plains Rd and Gleason Ave. Barney was dressed in jogging pants and a fordham hoodie. At the time Barney was still living in his nice place in Pelham Manor.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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* Barney was always surveillance-conscious and would have meetings in strange places, including in the front of cars with the hood up and the engine running, on medians and traffic islands, and at black clothing stores (where a fed would stand out).. That's great. It's genius is what it is. If you want to join the Mob or the underworld for that matter, you better pay close attention to Barney and do it right lol From what Michael Giovanni said Barney seems like he didn't / doesn't take any shit from anyone. From having a following at such a young age and clipping people at 18-19 he must of been one serious pitbull. You would have to be. Getting the attention from guys like that I expect he took on some big people and some big jobs risking death in the underworld & the death penalty. One serious guy Guys like these last a long time. He obviously didn't care about how he looked to the wannabes, he played it quiet and smooth. That's how its done. It surprises me he has that mindset because of the wild era and environment he grew up in
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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TheBlackHand forum is best forum for info out there,almost all good posters moved to there when RealDeal went down. There information is no different than what is on here. The owner fo that site asks people for money to run it, then kicks them off if they argue with him. That site is a disgrace, but people from there keep trying to recruit form here to bring this site down and build that one up. Have to disagree. The info and research that is done on that board is by far greater than was is posted here. Not trying to put down this place but it’s true. And from what I’ve seen the majority of posters on BH have nothing good to say about this site so the idea of them trying to recruit members from this board is a stretch. Unless you have proof to back up your claims about them recruiting.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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They have 2 outright Nazi's on there, one who puts up a Happy James Earl Ray Day profile picture every year on Martin Luther King Day. Oh, they're here, too. Since SC booted a few of them the others have been quiet. No, if you read what he actually said, he said "Nazi" not "Trump supporter" - SC made a fine point about politics, left or right. Let's get back on topic. Barney is a sneaky genius rich fuck
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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TheBlackHand forum is best forum for info out there,almost all good posters moved to there when RealDeal went down. There information is no different than what is on here. The owner fo that site asks people for money to run it, then kicks them off if they argue with him. That site is a disgrace, but people from there keep trying to recruit form here to bring this site down and build that one up. Have to disagree. The info and research that is done on that board is by far greater than was is posted here. Not trying to put down this place but it’s true. And from what I’ve seen the majority of posters on BH have nothing good to say about this site so the idea of them trying to recruit members from this board is a stretch. The GBB is not in any competition with The Black Hand or any other message board. It was never the intention of the GBB to be a hangout for organized crime fans but those fans keep coming here anyway. As long as they abide by the Board's rules (which I believe to be very fair) all are welcome here. It's really not nice that some discuss the other boards here on the GBB and it's somewhat disrespectful to the owner to have that done.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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TheBlackHand forum is best forum for info out there,almost all good posters moved to there when RealDeal went down. There information is no different than what is on here. The owner fo that site asks people for money to run it, then kicks them off if they argue with him. That site is a disgrace, but people from there keep trying to recruit form here to bring this site down and build that one up. Have to disagree. The info and research that is done on that board is by far greater than was is posted here. Not trying to put down this place but it’s true. And from what I’ve seen the majority of posters on BH have nothing good to say about this site so the idea of them trying to recruit members from this board is a stretch. The GBB is not in any competition with The Black Hand or any other message board. It was never the intention of the GBB to be a hangout for organized crime fans but those fans keep coming here anyway. As long as they abide by the Board's rules (which I believe to be very fair) all are welcome here. It's really not nice that some discuss the other boards here on the GBB and it's somewhat disrespectful to the owner to have that done. clapping emoji....
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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Luciano was Sicilian but it wasn't a source of pride for him or anything. After all, it was his idea to branch out with non-Italians and Jews and form a nationwide syndicate. According to one researcher, I think it may have been Thom Jones or one of the contributors to onewal.com's 'writers of wrongs blog's 'Masseria had Jewish partners. IIRC an early informant told his SS handler that 'Masseria was laying low at one point because a Jewish partner he had had just been pinched'. Most of what we claim to know about the Prohibition era and pre Prohibition era is complete nonsense based on the actual info. I believe it was the Godfather's docu that used to air on History channel all the time where the guy said he ran into Luciano at the airport in Naples. Luciano asked him to 'talk New York' with him. The guy asked Luciano what his dogs name was, to which he responds 'Bambie, I like fairy tales.' I've always wondered if he would have enjoyed how he has been turned into one. Just about everything out about Luciano comes from The Last Testament, which researchers have all but confirmed is 90% bs. Don't get me wrong he is a interesting guy with a great history but people like us have more to do with the immortal status he has then he ever really did. Luciano and Capone are what got me into researching the Mafia, but once you understand the actual established facts compared to the legend its kind of a let down. P.S. I ask posters who I believe can contribute to the bh to join all the time. Nothing against bb it's just the way it is. I'll say this about gbb tho, in all the years it has been in operation many forums have come and gone but gbb is still here. And always will be imo, it's a credit to Don Cardi for keeping this place going when others may have moved on by now.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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vincent fish cafaro taped him with 2 old genovese guys in 1986 87 buying 2 kilos of herion. theres some good times articles on it. fish made bail or the fbi gave him a sneaky pass cause he was held without bail when he was indcited with fat tony in late 86 early 87. he got released and started wearing the recorder. he bought 2 kilos of dope im positive it was from barney and some old guy the general. they were all indicted but with good lawyers and fish saying he wouldnt testify against barney the case fell apart and they dropped the case it was airtight but without the tapes and the witness that recorded them i dont think they could procede. that was lucky for barney also it didnt put him in chins deal an die spot. i dont believe chin was a deal and die boss. castellano thought he believed in it Is this when he out ran the feds with $200g on him?
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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Luciano was Sicilian but it wasn't a source of pride for him or anything. After all, it was his idea to branch out with non-Italians and Jews and form a nationwide syndicate. Yep, the story also goes that he wanted to get rid of the whole blood and fire ceremony, calling it antiquated. It supposedly was Lansky who told him to keep it because young men needed those traditions and rites of passage to be more committed to the organization / way of life.. Very interesting. It's a wonder why they didn't finish Lucky, though at the same time he had his uses so I can understand. In my opinion he contributed majorly to the decline of the Mob. He dealt in heroin, did business with outsiders. When you have greed like that you won't last as evident...
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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So Barney had his good friend/protege Ralph Cappola wacked back in 98 does anyone know about this and why he was killed? He got accused of skimming/withholding money from the family.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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Yaeh barney couldnt save his friend ralph. The orders came from whoever was the acting boss in 97 98(frank serpico??). Im guessing when he plead guilty the end of 96 he probaly lost his acting boss/street pistion an went to a capo. He was charged with ralphs murder and it fell apart. The government had conflicting wire taps by there own witness clearing barney and they still charged him anyway. He was indicted 2 or 3 other times after his first 10yr deal in 1997. Guess hes been lucky now, hes been a free man for like 10 yrs. There's 1 conflicting report some guy recorded that capo rooster from ct. And says to him in 2015" dan leo isnt letting anyone in to the family" . same guy who recorded merlino. forgot name . So maybe Dan leos the boss and barneys 2.
Thanks pmac wasn’t to sure how it all went down. I’d love to know more about Barney but there isn’t much out there about him and I’m sure that’s how he wants it
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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TheBlackHand forum is best forum for info out there,almost all good posters moved to there when RealDeal went down. There information is no different than what is on here. The owner fo that site asks people for money to run it, then kicks them off if they argue with him. That site is a disgrace, but people from there keep trying to recruit form here to bring this site down and build that one up. Have to disagree. The info and research that is done on that board is by far greater than was is posted here. Not trying to put down this place but it’s true. And from what I’ve seen the majority of posters on BH have nothing good to say about this site so the idea of them trying to recruit members from this board is a stretch. The GBB is not in any competition with The Black Hand or any other message board. It was never the intention of the GBB to be a hangout for organized crime fans but those fans keep coming here anyway. As long as they abide by the Board's rules (which I believe to be very fair) all are welcome here. It's really not nice that some discuss the other boards here on the GBB and it's somewhat disrespectful to the owner to have that done. Yes but blackhand member consider the GBB forum and the members a joke and stupid so there competition.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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Yaeh barney couldnt save his friend ralph. The orders came from whoever was the acting boss in 97 98(frank serpico??). Im guessing when he plead guilty the end of 96 he probaly lost his acting boss/street pistion an went to a capo. He was charged with ralphs murder and it fell apart. The government had conflicting wire taps by there own witness clearing barney and they still charged him anyway. He was indicted 2 or 3 other times after his first 10yr deal in 1997. Guess hes been lucky now, hes been a free man for like 10 yrs. There's 1 conflicting report some guy recorded that capo rooster from ct. And says to him in 2015" dan leo isnt letting anyone in to the family" . same guy who recorded merlino. forgot name . So maybe Dan leos the boss and barneys 2.
Frank Serpico was jealous of the younger big earners like Ralph, so he okayed the hit
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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This Barney was never involved in any drug trafficking...that was his double cousin Liborio T who is 4 years older. Often mistaken for each other.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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no it was the cousin...you can even see the the DOB of Liborio T on the indictment...Trust me. it was NOT this Barney. I am 1000% positive. The other guys you are referring to I know who you mean...but Liborio T was their partner not this guy..In 1988 the article even says Laborio Bellomo 33...ths Liborio was only 31. I made mistake they are 2 years apart always being confused with one another. The cousin was found guilty and served time for this. Liborio S Bellomo was arrested in 1996. prior to that he was arrested when he was 16. He was not arrested in the 1980's. this is a big mistake ppl go around saying.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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This was the cousin...See he was found guilty. Served time. Liborio S was not arrested and fund guilty until 1996. (arrested at 16 on gun charge. probation)
Defendant: Laborio Bellomo Verdict: Guilty Charge / Claim: Count One - conspiring to distribute more than one kilogram of heroin, in violation of Title 21, United States Code, Section 846.
Count Four - distributing approximately 997.8 grams of heroin on March 19, 1987, in violation of Title 21, United States Code, Sections 812, 841(a)(1), 841(b)(1)(B) and Title 18, United States Code, Section 2.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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ok. your rite. it makes sense to, i dont think chin would have made barney the street boss in 1991 if he was selling herion few years earlier. i always wondered that but figured since the chin had done his own thing with H he gave barney a pass, but this makes way more sense. thanks for the clarification gustavo, i see you've tried to tell us over the years
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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I think not being greedy has a lot to do with it, even if a guy is skimming money from you, it's better to let them do it and enjoy your freedom then too do something that will put you in jail for a long time. I like the way Philly does it, nobody gets made if somebody didint grow up with you, I would think with all the guys that's on the streets now, somebody should be teaching somebody something
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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TheBlackHand forum is best forum for info out there,almost all good posters moved to there when RealDeal went down. They have 2 outright Nazi's on there, one who puts up a Happy James Earl Ray Day profile picture every year on Martin Luther King Day. He is the the same person who kept joining here under SS members name and getting kicked off as joke. They also had people saying the church shooting and murders of Black people last year was 'A good start" There information is no different than what is on here. The owner fo that site asks people for money to run it, then kicks them off if they argue with him. That site is a disgrace, but people from there keep trying to recruit form here to bring this site down and build that one up. Same thing happened to me,he asked me 100 euros for remain on the site.
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Re: Why Barney Bellomo was so lucky?
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In June 1996, Ida and 19 other Genovese members and associates were charged with violating the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO). The government offered Ida a 15-year plea deal in exchange for cooperation, but Ida refused it. However, fellow mobster Bellomo accepted a plea agreement, reportedly enraging Ida. The FBI was sufficiently concerned about the threat to notify Bellomo's lawyer and to place Bellomo and Ida in solitary confinement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Idahttps://nypost.com/2007/07/24/miracle-sentence-for-mob-boss/Reading stuff like this would really make you wonder if Bellomo would rat if faced with a sentence like Ida or Locascio. It's not a very strong message for a leader to send.
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