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Cartel videos, translated. #951640
08/29/18 11:49 PM
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I am going to try to at least translate a video a day to see how the cartels operate and what's up about them. I am going to give the impression after each video and translation. There will code words or words I would translate or give better perceptive to collect data.

In this video a supposed Zeta hitmen was captured in unknown location(presumably in Tamulipas). Tamaulipas has long been the head state of the Gulf Cartel for decades since the early 1920s and 1930s. The Gulf Cartel has long been Mexico's oldest criminal syndicate and cartel. They were in the booze smuggling of the prohibition era and they still operate today as the same syndicate but now with drugs mainly marijuana and cocaine. This man(in the video) was captured by Gulf Cartel hitmen in presumably Tamaulipas their home state and interrogated and forced to give information about their whereabouts and bosses.



Interrogator: Where are you from?
"Z": From Oaxaca.
Interrogator: When did you arrived?
"Z": 8 days ago.
Interrogator: With whom did you come?
"Z": With the Zetas.
Interrogator: What did they told you to come for?
"Z" : To kill.
Interrogator: With who, who were you going to kill?
"Z" : At [they] the Gulf Cartel.
Interrogator: Where did they going to take you to kill people.
"Z" : At a "pueblo" (or town in Spanish).
Interrogator: Which one?
"Z": A "pueblo".
*Interrogator signifies his response*
Interrogator: Miguel Aleman?
"Z" : Yes.
Interrogator: And what did they tell you, and they told you, you were going to rob, rape people, women and kids?
Interrogator: And rob too?
"Z": Yes.
Interrogator: Did they gave you [something] to eat?
"Z": No
Interrogator: Nothing?
"Z": No.
Interrogator: How much they did they pay you for the days you were here?
"Z": Nothing.
Interrogator: Did they trick you?
"Z": Yes.
Interrogator: What do you want to tell your companion that are contracting you [all].
*Somebody off camera says something that I can't decipher*
"Z": That don't trick us.
Interrogator: Why?
"Z" : Because it was a trick with what they are doing.
Interrogator : They are tricking you all?
"Z" : Yes
Interrogator: Where are your people? Your companions?
"Z" : In the mountains [or hills] of Guerrero.
Interrogator: Where?
"Z" : In the mountains of Guerrero.
Interrogator: Which Gurrero? Cohuila( Mexican state in northern part of Mexico, near the border) or Tamaulipas(State on the east coast on norhtern Mexico, bordering the U.S.)
"Z" : Tamaulipas.
Interrogator: Where did they gave you your training?
"Z": In Cohuila.
Interrogator: In what part?
Interrogator: In Monclova. *He signifies again for a answer*
" Z": Yes.
Interrogator: Who was your training or who was your boss that gave you your training?
"Z" : Mojo
Interrogator: What/who?
"Z" : El Mojo
*Interrogator corrects him*
Interrogator: El Mojo mojojo
" Z" : Yes
Interrogator: Yes?
Interrogator: And you brought you here to fight?
"Z" : Los Zetas.
Interrogator: Who fought in front?
"Z": Mojojojo
Interrogator: Who else?
"Z" : "27" and "40".
Interrogator: Those are your bosses personally of everybody?
"Z" : Yes.
Interrogator: How many people do you guys have?
"Z": 60.
Interrogator: 60?
"Z" : Yes.
Interrogator: Everybody was in there?
Gunmen in blue on the left: Send more of these idiots "40".
Interrogator: "27" Send more idiot.
Interrogator: Send a message to [all of them].
"Z" : That don't trick people that to tell it like what it is, that pay like it is. That [they] don't trick people.

Re: Cartel videos, translated. [Re: CartelSpy] #951655
08/30/18 03:47 AM
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What would you say is the current state of power of the Gulf Cartel?

Re: Cartel videos, translated. [Re: TheKillingJoke] #951733
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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
What would you say is the current state of power of the Gulf Cartel?


They still control eastern Mexico allies of Sinaloa.


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Re: Cartel videos, translated. [Re: TheKillingJoke] #951839
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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
What would you say is the current state of power of the Gulf Cartel?

The Gulf Cartel still controls a portion of the marijuana and cocaine distribution in Texas particularly. They also do human trafficking and extortion. They are still a pretty powerful cartel in it's self. I rank them as one of the most powerful cartels in Mexico top 3 or 4 depending on who you ask.

Re: Cartel videos, translated. [Re: CartelSpy] #951864
09/01/18 06:15 AM
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Thanks for the info. It's rather interesting they've been around for so long. The general view on the Mexican cartels is that these are criminal organizations that can grow immensely wealthy and powerful in a short time, but they mostly don't have a lot of longevity. They often don't stay on top for a really long time and disintegration is common. While the Gulf Cartel has certainly suffered from setbacks - most infamously of course being directly challenged by a group they spawned themselves, the Zetas - it also seems to keep on rebuilding itself. This considered they actually pique my interest more than the Sinaloa Cartel.

The groups in the northeast of the country also seem to be exceptionally violent compared to those in western Mexico. This may just be an idea of course.

Re: Cartel videos, translated. [Re: TheKillingJoke] #951958
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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Thanks for the info. It's rather interesting they've been around for so long. The general view on the Mexican cartels is that these are criminal organizations that can grow immensely wealthy and powerful in a short time, but they mostly don't have a lot of longevity. They often don't stay on top for a really long time and disintegration is common. While the Gulf Cartel has certainly suffered from setbacks - most infamously of course being directly challenged by a group they spawned themselves, the Zetas - it also seems to keep on rebuilding itself. This considered they actually pique my interest more than the Sinaloa Cartel.

The groups in the northeast of the country also seem to be exceptionally violent compared to those in western Mexico. This may just be an idea of course.

True, Gulf Cartel and Los Zetas are more violent than the Sinaloa Cartel which relies more on corruption than violence but they also don't have the same connections to the federal government and institutions as the Sinaloa Cartel has. I think Sinaloa Cartel is the only group that effectively CAN corrupt the Mexican government in terms of federal level and military. The other groups don't have the same connections that's why yous see so much violence. The Gulf Cartel is a an old group and has peaked my interest too because they I live on the border and have followed the violence since they waged war between them, the Gulf and Los Zetas. Most of the beheading and so on can be attributed to these two groups Los Zetas and Gulf Cartel, Sinaloa like I said relies more on corruption than bullets or intimidation.

Re: Cartel videos, translated. [Re: CartelSpy] #952211
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Thanks for translation!!

And damn, this is when he knows he focked up!! Is that how Gaspipe used to interrogate his victims


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