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Re: The Irishman [Re: Moe_Tilden] #935525
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I have no doubts that The Irishman is going to deliver on every level for Scorsese fans, but the only thing that bugs me is that with Netflix's monster budget, they still filmed entirely in New York. They should have found some locations around Detroit and Scranton that still look mid 20th century. The Hoffa story is a midwestern story, not a NY story. I'm sure they filmed in part of New York that resemble Northeast Pennsylvania and The D good enough, though. After all, all of Casino was filmed in Vegas, even the midwest scenes. A lot of Goodfellas was filmed in Toronto, seamlessly. Someone as good as Marty could make it work.


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
I have no doubts that The Irishman is going to deliver on every level for Scorsese fans, but the only thing that bugs me is that with Netflix's monster budget, they still filmed entirely in New York. They should have found some locations around Detroit and Scranton that still look mid 20th century. The Hoffa story is a midwestern story, not a NY story. I'm sure they filmed in part of New York that resemble Northeast Pennsylvania and The D good enough, though. After all, all of Casino was filmed in Vegas, even the midwest scenes. A lot of Goodfellas was filmed in Toronto, seamlessly. Someone as good as Marty could make it work.


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De Niro looks so old he probably farts dust.


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Casino had a relatively old cast, too. It's probably one of the reasons it was heavily criticized, even though they said it was because of the violence. If younger actors had played Ace and Ginger, the critics probably would have been more friendly to it, despite the violence.

I'm glad Scorsese didn't ruin this by writing in a role for DeCaprio or someone just to appease critics and get a younger audience.


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"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Bobby Cannavale as Crazy Joe.

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If we keep going we might get every still from the movie onto this thread, then we can just scroll down and watch it.


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Casino had a relatively old cast, too. It's probably one of the reasons it was heavily criticized, even though they said it was because of the violence. If younger actors had played Ace and Ginger, the critics probably would have been more friendly to it, despite the violence.

I'm glad Scorsese didn't ruin this by writing in a role for DeCaprio or someone just to appease critics and get a younger audience.


De Niro was in his late-forties. Why would his character need to be older? It made sense. Pesci was around the same age. Maybe he could have been a little younger, but, again, not a noticeable issue.

De Niro, here, looks decrepit. It's a big blow to the credibility of the movie. Not to mention his recent career choices.


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The Irishman: Teamsters boss Jimmy Hoffa’s friend and the man who put two bullets in the back of his skull http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profil...oss-jimmy-hoffa-s-friend-and-the-man-who


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From Katherine Narducci's twitter.

Behind the scenes, Christmas day.

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It's great seeing Pesci back making a film. And this could also be his last film he ever makes..


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Casino had a relatively old cast, too. It's probably one of the reasons it was heavily criticized, even though they said it was because of the violence. If younger actors had played Ace and Ginger, the critics probably would have been more friendly to it, despite the violence.

I'm glad Scorsese didn't ruin this by writing in a role for DeCaprio or someone just to appease critics and get a younger audience.


De Niro was in his late-forties. Why would his character need to be older? It made sense. Pesci was around the same age. Maybe he could have been a little younger, but, again, not a noticeable issue.

De Niro, here, looks decrepit. It's a big blow to the credibility of the movie. Not to mention his recent career choices.


The one act of casting that irked me was in Goodfellas, not Casino. Joe Pesci, who is obviously much fucking older than Ray Liotta in that film, playing Tommy, who was what, 30 when he died? The fucking guy looks like he was 45 even back in the 1960s parts of the movie. Obviously artistic license and he was great in the role but as far as historical accuracy, come on.

As far as the casting of Ace and Ginger, if you went true to life with them no one would pay to see it - they were a pair of ugly fuckers.

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You might think I'm joking but I feel this was a missed opportunity to get Tony Siricio and Vincent Pastore involved in some way in this one. If you had Al, DeNiro, Pesci, Siricio and Pastore in the same movie it'd be the best gangster flick just on cast alone. No one plays a good old school fat fuck mobster like Pastore.

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The Irishman: Scorsese, Netflix and the film that nearly vanished
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De Niro will be made to like he’s in his 30s, he was in 102 movies not bad.

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Why do the always have to cast big names??I mean its on Netflix,I guarantee you there's at least 20guys who could of done a better job than Deniro.Imagine if Coppola listened to the studio and casted James Caan instead of Pacino.The directors today are gutless

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Why do the always have to cast big names??I mean its on Netflix,I guarantee you there's at least 20guys who could of done a better job than Deniro.Imagine if Coppola listened to the studio and casted James Caan instead of Pacino.The directors today are gutless


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Scorsese's well past his 'taking on the studio' days. They throw him a ton of money to basically make whatever movie he wants, and they've always wanted another mob movie with him and DeNiro. This is probably the curtain call for Scorsese, Deniro and Pesci. No need to go young with the cast. We're talking about Sheeran's story here, anyway, not Casablanca.


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I don't mind that they cast De Niro and Pesci along with having Scorsese direct. These guys are legends and Netflix knows, if you put all 3 of these in a movie, people will have interest and will watch it. Plus, if De Niro and Pesci can still pull it off, who cares how old they are and that their faces need to be digitally restored?

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They could have used younger actors, but they just make them younger. I watched Ant-Man and the Wasp yesterday they used the same technology to make Michael Douglas and Laurence Fishburne younger, looked pretty good.

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Dan Moldea (author: Hoffa Wars) on FoxNews today talking about Sheeran, says he's a fraud. Calls "The Irishman" a "fantasy". I think he's being kind of salty. Most biographical films have a lot of staged events and even some made up characters. It's ultimately entertainment.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5980175...YAEYXIlBy5wNde8m1SlJ51SsHo#sp=show-clips


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Dan Moldea (author: Hoffa Wars) on FoxNews today talking about Sheeran, says he's a fraud. Calls "The Irishman" a "fantasy". I think he's being kind of salty. Most biographical films have a lot of staged events and even some made up characters. It's ultimately entertainment.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5980175...YAEYXIlBy5wNde8m1SlJ51SsHo#sp=show-clips


Wasn't Moldea himself also a bit controversial?


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I haven't looked up a lot of criticism of Moldea, but by reading his books I can tell for myself that he has a habit of jumping to conclusions based on mere third party connections between subjects. I don't entirely disagree with all of his conclusions and they are plausible, but he has a tendency to pass them off as fact. I still like him. Great mob writer. I still have his book about Reagan and MCA on my wish list.


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De Niro said on CNN that the title will be like the book. I heard you paint houses instead of the Irishman. Good choice.

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When was the DeNiro CNN interview?


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Is this movie still coming out in the later part of 2019 or have they moved it up? Last I heard it's still almost a year out. Seems weird they're doing interviews and whatnot if it's still that far away.

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