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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934855
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it doesnt say anything about a capo being a informant is says cs1 we know is persiano and cs2 is a drug dealer not made guy and the others are fbi agents. cs1 taped his capo asking about drugs not selling them so it might not be anuff to charge him.

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if goes back to selling acouple 100 fake pills it not like they were even moving kilos or quarter bricks. all the federal drug laws goes but weight and i think fake percs werent making it to the trafficking levels atleast the big weight numbers.

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Originally Posted by pmac
it doesnt say anything about a capo being a informant is says cs1 we know is persiano and cs2 is a drug dealer not made guy and the others are fbi agents. cs1 taped his capo asking about drugs not selling them so it might not be anuff to charge him.

The capo can and will take a charge if the informant asked permission to sell drugs and he( capo ) gave the ok on tape.
Even worse if the capo stated he wanted a piece of change from the deals.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934858
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there wasnt even trafficking drugs laws on the state level for fetanyl here in mass so you could get c aughtlike a yr or 2 ago with 100grams it would only be poss with int. theychanged recently.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: Aces] #934859
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Originally Posted by Aces
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it doesnt say anything about a capo being a informant is says cs1 we know is persiano and cs2 is a drug dealer not made guy and the others are fbi agents. cs1 taped his capo asking about drugs not selling them so it might not be anuff to charge him.

The capo can and will take a charge if the informant asked permission to sell drugs and he( capo ) gave the ok on tape.
Even worse if the capo stated he wanted a piece of change from the deals.


It’s not that difficult. If the feds had a case against a captain, the captain would be charged. It’s all about headlines. And Scott B. mentioning Dom G in his article is fucking dangerous.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934860
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Agree, he never should of mentioned a name, irresponsible !!
Most here know this but here is something to ponder.
If this capo merely gave an ok on tape, he is screwed.
At trial, the prosecutor will explain to the jury what LCN is and its structure; boss, capo, soldier, associate ect..
They will then describe and explain to the jury what “ kicking up” means.
They will then describe how a capo has to approve or give an Ok to an underling as to what he can and cannot do when it comes to his criminal activity.
The capo is done if he is on tape. It will not only be a drug charge but a criminal enterprise rico charge.

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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934862
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Philly didn't make him, the Luke's did... who's crew did Dom take over, Marty Angelina?


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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934863
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I concur Ace, good description. That said, it makes no sense as to why he wouldnt be arrested yet. Unless they want electric to flip first?
I dont think Joe would, he is a pretty solid guy.

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Originally Posted by Aces
Agree, he never should of mentioned a name, irresponsible !!
Most here know this but here is something to ponder.
If this capo merely gave an ok on tape, he is screwed.
At trial, the prosecutor will explain to the jury what LCN is and its structure; boss, capo, soldier, associate ect..
They will then describe and explain to the jury what “ kicking up” means.
They will then describe how a capo has to approve or give an Ok to an underling as to what he can and cannot do when it comes to his criminal activity.
The capo is done if he is on tape. It will not only be a drug charge but a criminal enterprise rico charge.


Aces, I agree. But from reading the complaint it only has Joey Electric saying that he got the ‘ok’ from his capo and not the capo saying on tape. Anyway, this should get real interesting

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934868
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i read that guy scotts article all it mention was his father flipped on the guy sam piccolo who i would think is the guy doms uncle. it didnt say anything bad about dom. im i missing something.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: Ravens410] #934872
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Originally Posted by Ravens410
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Agree, he never should of mentioned a name, irresponsible !!
Most here know this but here is something to ponder.
If this capo merely gave an ok on tape, he is screwed.
At trial, the prosecutor will explain to the jury what LCN is and its structure; boss, capo, soldier, associate ect..
They will then describe and explain to the jury what “ kicking up” means.
They will then describe how a capo has to approve or give an Ok to an underling as to what he can and cannot do when it comes to his criminal activity.
The capo is done if he is on tape. It will not only be a drug charge but a criminal enterprise rico charge.


Aces, I agree. But from reading the complaint it only has Joey Electric saying that he got the ‘ok’ from his capo and not the capo saying on tape. Anyway, this should get real interesting




There you go that’s way is was thinking


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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934882
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Lol
Looks like Gangster Report is a member here
He wrote the article based on posts In this forum

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934886
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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934909
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Really I was joking

Isn't there another one that is popular also?

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934912
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I think if they could have Knocked the CAPO they would have
That Makes for headlines

I never seen them let a capo go just to tickle the wire
The wire as tickled as is going to get right now

And this is all an end game to get Merlino

If they were able to put some real time in front of the CAPO for him to think about flipping
I think it would have happened already

So I think they didn't have go charge him or it was a bull shit charge

In my opinion in today's standards 10+ years is a real charge
Or real time

You don't see too many guys flipping that were looking at 5 years or so

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934913
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They didn't have enough
Or the charge was bull shit

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934914
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if the capo was guilty beyound the resonable shit hed be cuffed and be a codefendant of either joe servido or the other soldier piccolo. maybe they didnt have anuff to get proable cause to arrest the capo. the philly family probaly learned alot about the drug charges with ron previte wrote a book about how he was trying to entrap the whole family into a cococaine conspiracy. big ron was giving interviews on a yearly base to all the tv stations in philly what to watch out for when your setting someone up on a drug deal in the mafia.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934917
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I think some guys need to be made an example out of especially Tony Arillotta, John Alite, Ron Previte, Joe Bonelli, Dom Cicale... To name a few I could prolly think of a few more somebody or something needs to happen so these stop seeing the avenue of flipping and then getting to live back on the street making these stupid ass appearances and getting paid to write a book.... Me personally I would rather read a book from from a stand up guy like Frank Cullotta rather then these f'cks walking around bad mouthing everybody that shitted on them therefore they ran to the Feds...a lot of people get shitted on this lifestyle whether Assoc to Soldato or Soldato to Capo...you got shitted on for a reason but not everybody runs and rats.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934918
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So the other part of this is

Lil Nicky was made into the Lukes for protection
Under the condition that he would take back over the Philly LCN I guess when he had enough power to do so.

He made enough money they promoted him to Capo

He started making his own crew from Philly and NJ

So he really was making that move
???

WOW

And more than likely that meeting with Uncle Joe was to gather support against the Lukes moving in on them?

How many guys did lil nicky have?
And after he went away the Lukes didn't want them anymore??

That is real interesting...

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934919
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In response to sonny...I’ll take the previte contract smile

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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934920
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@Biggie....Deal that's one down haha.... It just bugs me beyond anything it's one thing to flip and ya you disappear for the rest of time in Witsec but it's another when you flip and then walk around like those do that I named.... I take it you specifically don't like Previte or was it the guys that he flipped on you favored a lot?

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When Tony Nics did that stunt on Gino DiPietro I really thought damn maybe still to this day there are some real cowboys out there left when somebody can get hit in the daytime on a given day and while there is a huge trial going on I mean come on I was following the Ligambi trial one day and the next day I'm reading Nicodemo hit DiPietro I'm thinking holy shit somebody in the Genovese need to grab there balls and go get Bingy finally...I personally think Al Bruno was just fine in Springfield....all in all what I'm getting at is I think somebody needs to pull a DiPietro job on Arillotta.

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Joe Bonelli he did not rat?

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: irishkaos] #934924
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Originally Posted by irishkaos
I find it interesting that him and the apparently made Sal Piccolo with Philly were involved or on the payroll with Scarfo Jr in the FirstTrust scam.. and surely either Licata or Ligambi were okay with it?


The Piccolo's and the Scarfo's are cousins. Maybe blood allegiance counted for more than crime family allegiance as regards Nicky Scarfo, Jr (of the Lucchese).

Nicholas "Nicky Buck" Piccolo brought his nephew Nicky Scarfo, Sr, into the mob, and Scarfo later returned the favor by making him his Consigliere.

I do not know how Sal Piccolo is related--not only was there Nicky Buck, but also his younger brothers Michael & Joseph, plus in the next generation Anthony "Tony Buck" Piccolo--but he is roughly same age as Philip Leonetti

Perhaps Serp or somebody else here could draw us a family tree, not a crime family chart, but a blood-relative tree

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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934930
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Sonny, both, previte another blowhard, and some people he hurt I wasn’t a fan...and yes, rather than add insult to injury, guys like him should disappear into the program as it was intended...I only said I’d take his ticket btw cause he died last year haha

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Dom : I am not doing a tree but Sammy was a nephew to the made brothers and possibly a great like Jr. is / was the family is big and was even harder back then when you could not ask a simple question back when all the NY relatives and Philly and NJ people would be down at house and apartment building back late 60,s - 88ish. Then you had drama in between so it was never normal nor did they have certain holidays that they came down to try to make sense out of the families.

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Not trying to digress but Nick scarfo jr had a “ philly crew” while is was a made lucchese and he wanted to take over philly?
Would philly then be controlled by luchese or would of scarfo just transferred back to philly after taking it over?
This is kind of confusing.. serp????

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Originally Posted by Aces
Not trying to digress but Nick scarfo jr had a “ philly crew” while is was a made lucchese and he wanted to take over philly?
Would philly then be controlled by luchese or would of scarfo just transferred back to philly after taking it over?
This is kind of confusing.. serp????


I was never on the inside of any first hand info before it happened so really could not say for sure but it more like moving in on rackets and area , don’t think it was ever meant to be a takeover.

And more and more info of those involved in both families are starting to show , shit you never know how much leadway uncle Joe gave he didn’t come off as pushing back.


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are you saying uncle joe didnt push back? not sure if i read that right?..sadly mistaken if you are though

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@Biggie you are correct I forgot Ron did pass away.

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