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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934749
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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934752
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Definitely not that Galati guy that got pinched a little while back right? Chop shop dude looked like he wore a bad hair piece? Or maybe it’s the shooter in the Riccobene grandson case that no one ever heard much about after it happened?

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934753
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Do Atlantic city have its own capo?


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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934754
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Ill be very shocked if it comes out that Dom Grande is the informant....if so would that affect what happened with Tony Nicodemo and DiPietro murder.... Since Dom was thrown around in speculation at the most.....Jesus I just hope it's not him.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: thebigfella] #934756
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Originally Posted by thebigfella
Do Atlantic city have its own capo?


Couple that I know of even three but that’s comes and goes. Looks like it’s going for a while.


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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934758
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I am hearing NO WAY its Dom. Its someone else.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934774
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think it out there . the cs1 guy is a made member of the philly family but lives and sells drugs around south jersey his name is anthony persiano. the other informant was only a drug dealer i read. hes not a member of the family. that guy thats write report blog is saying scarfo jr inducted sam piccolo his cousin into the luchese family. when scarfo was locked up im guessing from the way it sounds piccolo and persiano were transferd to the philly family which is something the families did back in the 50tys and 60tys. weird any thought on that?

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934779
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I'm trying to understand still why Sam Piccolo would even get involved with Wayne after everything that was explained earlier about him and the two joining families at first I thought maybe Piccolo mite got wind maybe of a setup and instead tried to go along with the deal and flip as well but then again that doesn't seem very logical as of now

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934781
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This case is strange
Why did they.not pick everyone up?

The guys that got pinched know their attorneys know anyone from Philly, that knows these guys Knows

Who everyone is on this case

The word on the streets have to be buzzing right now

This guy is the rat that guys a rat
The guys from inside are talking to the guys on the outside

The guys wearing the wires have to be off the streets right now
They are technically in danger

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934783
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I agree with Bensonhurst if anybody that wasn't named in the indictment but still was involved with this Tony Persiano guy in some way even if it wasn't drugs specifically and let's say he has been taking off the street as of now then somebody should realize somethin ain't right with Persiano we can't get ahold of him hasn't been seen and these other guys he was involved in drugs with are all over the papers now....I could be wrong I guess my mind just wanders sometimes.

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This case is weird they have a rat AP from 8 mi outside AC and has been around all the local guys for years and he was a hang around guy with jr. his Skipper (the little guy) who is still on the street with not enough to lock him up for a night .

Now I have not read to indictment but why if there are so much tape on so many guys why only the few that were originally pinched the only ones arrested?

And just heads up all these guys were the guys around Jr. when he was pushing on Philly right before he was knocked down by Luke’s.



So Serp if a lot of these guys like AP and other made guys or associates who were wrapped up in this or around these guys and they were originally with Scarfo Jr/Lukes then I wonder if this is why ligambi and Staino and Licata had that meeting with the Gambinos in NJ. If I remember correctly, it was over some beef with the Luccheses. The timing makes sense too. I bet when Scarfo Jr went away to prison the Luke guys were trying to keep these guys maybe and Philly was protesting saying they're Philly guys and if my theory is correct then they won this beef and ended up making one or two of them and locking in the rest as associates.

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Jesus where are you guys from..clearly one of the capos is wearing a wire or else they would have been indicted...that’s the way the feds work. They want you back on the street as soon as possible One of these guys got jammed up dealing heroin. They’re talking about giving people the death penalty for that type of dealing. The puzzle pieces are going to fall and the king and all his men are going to fall.


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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: Louiebynochi] #934793
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“Jesus where are you guys from..clearly one of the capos is wearing a wire or else they would have been indicted...that’s the way the feds work.”

You have no idea how the feds work, obviously.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934797
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This is what In am trying to say
Servido knows what convo he has with who

When these guys were i court after they got knocked
They were are able to read the indictment

And say

" THAT RAT COCK-SUCKER" is
He is the reason why I am here

Now he and everyone else on the case knows who the rats are
They are sending messages and talking to people on the outside.

Everyone in the KNOW knows the name of the rat(s)

She something like this goes down here in Brooklyn, with in a couple of days the neighbourhood is "BUZZING"
THESE GUYS ARE "RATS"

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934798
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The last sentence is

When

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934800
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Dom Grande??? Where the FUCK u guys get your info from???? I'm reading and everyone is twisting shit and words around. Dom Grande is No Rat!!! Don't even know where that line of speculation came from. As for piccolo getting involved with Wayne, Wayne isn't on the streets.... He's in the program. Either still away in the rat section of prison or relocated somewhere.... Wtf... All u need to know right now is Persiano is the.informant..... that's that for now. Wtf stop surmising shit

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I'm with you pino. .... Ridiculous .. funny how all these guys come up with their theories
Dom true blue..... No need to even comment to this bullshit

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934803
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Besides.... Don't even know where this bullshit is coming from. All the rats are known. Sit back and watch the show fellas

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Dom Grande??? Where the FUCK u guys get your info from???? I'm reading and everyone is twisting shit and words around. Dom Grande is No Rat!!! Don't even know where that line of speculation came from. As for piccolo getting involved with Wayne, Wayne isn't on the streets.... He's in the program. Either still away in the rat section of prison or relocated somewhere.... Wtf... All u need to know right now is Persiano is the.informant..... that's that for now. Wtf stop surmising shit


It ain't Grande, I agree with a lot a guys on that. It don't add up. People are reaching cause of the old Merlino/Scarfo fued.


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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: PHL_Mob] #934818
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Originally Posted by irishkaos
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This case is weird they have a rat AP from 8 mi outside AC and has been around all the local guys for years and he was a hang around guy with jr. his Skipper (the little guy) who is still on the street with not enough to lock him up for a night .

Now I have not read to indictment but why if there are so much tape on so many guys why only the few that were originally pinched the only ones arrested?

And just heads up all these guys were the guys around Jr. when he was pushing on Philly right before he was knocked down by Luke’s.



So Serp if a lot of these guys like AP and other made guys or associates who were wrapped up in this or around these guys and they were originally with Scarfo Jr/Lukes then I wonder if this is why ligambi and Staino and Licata had that meeting with the Gambinos in NJ. If I remember correctly, it was over some beef with the Luccheses. The timing makes sense too. I bet when Scarfo Jr went away to prison the Luke guys were trying to keep these guys maybe and Philly was protesting saying they're Philly guys and if my theory is correct then they won this beef and ended up making one or two of them and locking in the rest as associates.


PHL-Mob it’s kinda of crazy just a few years ago nobody would believe that Jr.was working with other Philly guys and was pushing on them. Did it work no but if not for that first plus case it may of been pretty interesting.

And it’s crazy that you hear about something then few years go by and you are able to connect the dots.

And yes these guys were and are active and Yes I am sure with a bunch of guys being made in last five or more years that they were active and stepping on toes or working with manyup north and have no doubt that meeting had something to do with going one Philly and Luke’s,s Jr.may have went to far for pop and everybody may find out soon.


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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934820
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PHL-Mob You think the South Jersey Feds and Philly area Feds had to bust this case out early to put Skinny away ? Do you think that they have such a hardon for him that they gave up wired guys possibly to soon to get him in NY .

I don’t think they would leave any guys wired up because they will be responsible for them if anybody comes up dead.

Just my thought.


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No way no way no way its dom..and no the stupid nonsense of the capo not being indocted cuz hes a rat isnt accurate either..here is how it works, they got what they could from persiano, snd trust me there is a lot of shit this creep pulled, they got what they couls, and he was ready to come out, he was scooped away, shortly after they picked up SOME of the guys that could be charged easily with limited extra money and time spent, now,, in their eyes, it lays the foundation, and build from there..the push to flip others, they push to get other wires.and bugs placed...but just cuz the capo he was talking to wasnt pinched, doesnt mean hes a rat, not even close..what it does mean, IMO, is the evidence as of this minute is thin..

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If you read the indictment it mentions a youger capo in the AC area giving his ok. The reference to “ younger capo” has many speculating its dom grande. That said, he is NOT the informant. He also may not even be the younger capo.

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Aces, totally understand, my post was to the informant dom claim...far as the capo and who it may be..no comment

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934828
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Ok so some on here are thinking because in the indictment it says thisnelectric guy got permission from his capo that means that the capo

1) Should have gotten indicted?
2) He is rat?
3) Because it mentions him as a kid everyone is thinking who is the youngest capo?
4) And that "KID" should have gotten pinched or is a rat?

That all means nothing.....

I thought local guys that knew these guys were saying a capo was rat because they spoke to someone surrounded by these guys.

FYI.... Allie Boy Persico was and is called the "KID" by alot of people on the street
And he is in his late 50's becaus that is what he was called growing up.


This guy Doms name shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as rat.

Gossip like this catches on and ends up causing alot of stress for people that for obvious reasons have other shit to worry about.

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Agree, dont even mention his name, he has nothing to do with it.
Back to the capo not getting indictment. Perhaps the CI said the capo gave “the ok” but didnt have him on tape saying it. If thats the case, no way would they ever get a conviction. Maybe thats why he was never arrested.
Or he was taped giving a somewhat vague ok.. such as “ i dont care if you deal drugs, i just dont want to get involved.”
Who knows.
Bottom line, it doesnt quite seem that this guy Perisano had any decent contact with the upper echelon guys in philly.

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This is more of a drug case involving LCN guys
More than an LCN case

In the traditional sense

The CAPO might be part of the bigger LCN case that the feds are trying to build.

This all again does not make sense

All the guys touched by this case had a minute to think about flipping, meaning they were paid a visit by the Alphabet boys and given the opportunity to wear a wire to get out from underneath this.
At that point the C.I. And the Fed were taken off the streets when these guys said NO.

IN Scarpo's blog he mentioned that this might be how the PA FBI got screwed with the East Coast LCN Case

That maybe why it doesn't make any sense

Maybe this was left out there
That the case in it of itself isn't much

But if they added it to the East Coast case would have made headlines etc..

Maybe the southern district just didn't see how this tied in and pulled the trigger with out P.A.

This was just a Goonie case

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I think they have what they have and something happened that they had to come forward with this and now all they have left is to tickle the wire and get all these phones they have bugged pinging !!!

I say if the other was a Skipper he would be in the joint . Something went down to trigger this shit.


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Thanks Dante, looks like we assumed correctly with regards to who the young capo is.

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