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Re: Mexican cartels [Re: MeyerLansky] #930913
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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
It's something i've always wonder are the cartel consider as crime organization or terrorists group ?
Or maybe something in the middle ?


Maybe both. The government has lost control.

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https://www.insightcrime.org/news/a...cartels-strategy-for-post-farc-colombia/

What Is the Mexican Cartels’ Strategy for Post-FARC Colombia?

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Mexico's ascendant Jalisco cartel may be copying the brutal tactics of the once-dominant Zetas

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Ex-Mexican Border State Official Accused of Giving SWAT Badges to Cartel Hitmen

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Re: Mexican cartels [Re: Ciment] #931386
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http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018...bility-ferry-explosion-playa-del-carmen/

Watch: Narco-Terrorism Hits Mexico as Cartel Claims Responsibility for Bombing Tourist Ferry

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Mexican Authorities Seize Collection of Federal Police Uniforms from Cartel

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GRAPHIC — Two Cartel Gunmen Killed in Grenade Attack Against Mexican Cops

Re: Mexican cartels [Re: MeyerLansky] #931396
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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
It's something i've always wonder are the cartel consider as crime organization or terrorists group ?
Or maybe something in the middle ?


In the 80s and 90s drug trafficking in Mexico was run by just a few families mostly from Sinaloa back then it was run like a mafia, the terrorist element really started in 2006 when the government declared war on the cartels.


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GRAPHIC — Dozens Killed in Cartel War amid Michoacan Governor’s Call for Florida Travel Advisory

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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
It's something i've always wonder are the cartel consider as crime organization or terrorists group ?
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Terrorists. Mexican cartels are not considered organized crime

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mexican cartels are organized crime mixed with terrorism, the sicilian mafia in the 1980s was both, it committed slaughters similar to terrorism
sicilian mafia did it supported by italian government, probably the same in mexico

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One thing i dont understand is that they say the Mexicans run the coke buisness since they basically took it from the colombians. But still you see the main Mexican ( EL chapo) being charged with smuggling only 200 tons of cocaine throughout his years. Alfredo beltran leyva was charged with even smaller amount i think it was some 90 tons.

When the Flores twins phone was tapped you see that they talked to El chapo and it wasnt tons involved, it was about 10-20 kilos, of heroin thou but still. CAN it possibly be that the media overhype the Mexicans when it comes to the dominance of the drug trade?

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mexican cartels are organized crime mixed with terrorism, the sicilian mafia in the 1980s was both, it committed slaughters similar to terrorism
sicilian mafia did it supported by italian government, probably the same in mexico


i think the term narco terror best describes the cartels,but the media and govt don't want to label it terrorism because it would mean they would have to acknowledge the problem is driven by terrorism and that parts of mexico are a failed state. i could see the comparison to the Sicilian Mafia,but Mexican cartels are terrorists no element of organize crime

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Originally Posted by doggystyle
One thing i dont understand is that they say the Mexicans run the coke buisness since they basically took it from the colombians. But still you see the main Mexican ( EL chapo) being charged with smuggling only 200 tons of cocaine throughout his years. Alfredo beltran leyva was charged with even smaller amount i think it was some 90 tons.

When the Flores twins phone was tapped you see that they talked to El chapo and it wasnt tons involved, it was about 10-20 kilos, of heroin thou but still. CAN it possibly be that the media overhype the Mexicans when it comes to the dominance of the drug trade?


They're likely only charging him with what's provable. Plus, they've already got so much evidence he's never getting out of jail, so I'd guess it doesn't matter if he's charged with 10 kilos vs 100 kilos.... like being charged with 10 murders vs 20 murders, what's the difference? Life in Florence Supermax is life.


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One thing i dont understand is that they say the Mexicans run the coke buisness since they basically took it from the colombians. But still you see the main Mexican ( EL chapo) being charged with smuggling only 200 tons of cocaine throughout his years. Alfredo beltran leyva was charged with even smaller amount i think it was some 90 tons.

When the Flores twins phone was tapped you see that they talked to El chapo and it wasnt tons involved, it was about 10-20 kilos, of heroin thou but still. CAN it possibly be that the media overhype the Mexicans when it comes to the dominance of the drug trade?


They're likely only charging him with what's provable. Plus, they've already got so much evidence he's never getting out of jail, so I'd guess it doesn't matter if he's charged with 10 kilos vs 100 kilos.... like being charged with 10 murders vs 20 murders, what's the difference? Life in Florence Supermax is life.




I bet the government would like to state that they have removed a guy who is bringing in 300 tons a year more than a guy who has brought in 250 tons for 20 years.

But then on the other hand media is media, i am reading about Ecuadors new Pablo Escobar Washington Prada (Gerald) and he also is accused of smuggling 250 tons but then later they say he had 10 boats with 1 ton in each of them moving every week. thats 10 tons a week. So one does not know what to think

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http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018...gang-members-arrested-safe-city-el-paso/

17 Alleged Mexican Cartel-Connected Gang Members Arrested in ‘Safe City’ El Paso

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EXCLUSIVE — Mexican Border Judge Continues Releasing Cartel Suspects from Jail

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http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018...ng-military-weapons-mexican-border-city/

Mexican Cartel Continues Stockpiling Military Weapons in Mexican Border City

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Narco-Terror: More Cartel Bombs Discovered on Another Tourist Ferry in Mexico

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Major Cartel Meth Lab Discovered in Popular Mexican Tourist Town

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Families of Mexico military abuse victims fear new security law

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7 U.S. Citizens Injured by Alleged Cartel Bomb on Mexican Tourist Ferry

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More Alleged Cartel Bombs Discovered on Another Tourist Ferry in Mexico

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Gunmen in Mexico kill drug suspect at hospital in Cancun

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