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Major RCMP anti-drug investigation Ontario/USA #922813
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The sons of a former Montreal Mafia godfather charged in Ontario.
A total of nine people, including the Violi sons, were arrested for 75 offenses including fentanyl trafficking, cocaine import and trafficking, methamphetamine trafficking, arms trafficking and contraband tobacco trafficking. The arrested suspects, all of whom are residents of Ontario, had connections with members of the Bonnano family in New York, many of whom were arrested simultaneously by the FBI today.

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Mississauga man arrested in RCMP organized crime sweep

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Drug trafficking ring ‘corrupted’ TPS employee to spy for them: RCMP

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FBI and Canadian cops arrest alleged mafia members in fentanyl trafficking bust

https://news.vice.com/story/fbi-and-cana...rafficking-bust

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RCMP GTA CFSEU and its policing partners land a tremendous blow to organized crime in Canada

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In the press conference, the RCMP said the investigation was a result of someone up high in OC flipping. Also, said the investigation discovered renewed connections between Gambinos, Bonannos, Buffalo, GTA and Montreal.


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Originally Posted By: Johnny_Pops
In the press conference, the RCMP said the investigation was a result of someone up high in OC flipping. Also, said the investigation discovered renewed connections between Gambinos, Bonannos, Buffalo, GTA and Montreal.


The guy that flipped, did they mention if he was from Canada or the USA ?

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They didn't say who flipped but if history is an indicator, he was from the USA


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MOLLY HAYES Nov.9,2017


In Canada, brothers Domenico and Giuseppe Violi and Giovanni Commisso are among more than 10 people facing charges, police said.

Across the border, a parallel but separate investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation into the Cosa Nostra in New York has led to the arrests of members and associates of both the Bonanno and Gambino crime families, Special Agent Michael McGarrity said Thursday.

Fourteen search warrants were executed at homes and businesses across the Greater Toronto And Hamilton Area and Montreal Thursday morning. A number of drug charges been laid in relation to the importation, exportation, and trafficking of drugs including contraband tobacco, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl and carfentanil.

Charges related to weapons trafficking, illegal gaming, extortion and money laundering have also been laid.

Undercover operations throughout the investigation saw police purchase six kilograms of fentanyl and carfentanil, they say. Police say that, after dilution, three times that volume would've made it on to the streets.

With thousands of Canadians dying from these potent drugs every year, Supt. Leather described this seizure as a "significant dent" in the market.

"How long that impact lasts, time will tell," he said.

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Originally Posted By: Johnny_Pops
They didn't say who flipped but if history is an indicator, he was from the USA


I agree.

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These guys were pushing fentanyl, they should be locked up for life. Living in the city of Baltimore and seeing the destruction it causes is heartbreaking.

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RCMP announces major bust with links to organized crime in Canada and U.S.

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MOLLY HAYES Nov.9,2017


In Canada, brothers Domenico and Giuseppe Violi and Giovanni Commisso are among more than 10 people facing charges, police said.

Across the border, a parallel but separate investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation into the Cosa Nostra in New York has led to the arrests of members and associates of both the Bonanno and Gambino crime families, Special Agent Michael McGarrity said Thursday.

Fourteen search warrants were executed at homes and businesses across the Greater Toronto And Hamilton Area and Montreal Thursday morning. A number of drug charges been laid in relation to the importation, exportation, and trafficking of drugs including contraband tobacco, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl and carfentanil.

Charges related to weapons trafficking, illegal gaming, extortion and money laundering have also been laid.

Undercover operations throughout the investigation saw police purchase six kilograms of fentanyl and carfentanil, they say. Police say that, after dilution, three times that volume would've made it on to the streets.

With thousands of Canadians dying from these potent drugs every year, Supt. Leather described this seizure as a "significant dent" in the market.

"How long that impact lasts, time will tell," he said.


https://t.co/LGfM5UI3pB

Givanni Commisso name does not appear on the RCMP web page. I question if Globe & Mail may have made a mistake about him unless there is more information to come.

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I wonder if it's that Bonnano Capo that flipped , the one that took out that cops eye with a pitcher.

I feel like there has been a big increase in Gambino and possible Bonnano wholesale narcotics trafficking . With the Sicilians in charge of the Gambinos , Sicily trying to get their dope game back up and the sheer growth and power of Calabrian wealth, international network and power at peak levels and all the FBI/ DEA focus on the Mexicans and Dominicans and their routes , its hard for me to believe that the Italians haven't significantly upped their dope wholesale racket in the USA

My hunch is it up pretty big from 10 years ago but that's a total guess on my part

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Wow, shit is going to hit the fan.

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These guys were pushing fentanyl, they should be locked up for life. Living in the city of Baltimore and seeing the destruction it causes is heartbreaking.


It is heartbreaking, it's happening in many locations across north america.

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By the Bonannos in Canada... So if I'm getting this right they still induct guys over there into their borgata which means that they are still active there. uhwhat

I fear some guys here may be getting a stroke. tongue


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By the Bonannos in Canada... So if I'm getting this right they still induct guys over there into their borgata which means that they are still active there. uhwhat

I fear some guys here may be getting a stroke. tongue


Good catch--this means the cooperating witness could be Italian-Canadian.

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By the Bonannos in Canada... So if I'm getting this right they still induct guys over there into their borgata which means that they are still active there. uhwhat

I fear some guys here may be getting a stroke. tongue


Good catch--this means the cooperating witness could be Italian-Canadian.

If he is, he would likely be someone in-the-know about the conflicts over there.

This may very well be the beginning of something big in terms of information gathering for us mobwatchers (or mob enthusiasts).


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I read the guy who became a full-fledged member and recorderd it is an undercover agent.

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The RCMP and FBI have made a string of arrests involving fentanyl trafficking by a long-established Hamilton crime group and the Gambino organized family of New York.

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Originally Posted By: Hollander
I read the guy who became a full-fledged member and recorderd it is an undercover agent.


If it was the Feds they would have played that up. I think the associate just taped his making ceremony ala the Boston recording.

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I read the guy who became a full-fledged member and recorderd it is an undercover agent.


If it was the Feds they would have played that up. I think the associate just taped his making ceremony ala the Boston recording.


If it was only audio but they also have video.


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So the violi brothers are part of the buffalo tadaro family? Maybe that's why Vito rizzuto couldn't kill them. Isn't that tadaro guy always on like the food network on cooking shows. It say the bonanno inductee wore the wire at his induction in Canada so I'm gonna guess Montreal. Seems they back together with the NYC family

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I read the guy who became a full-fledged member and recorderd it is an undercover agent.


If it was the Feds they would have played that up. I think the associate just taped his making ceremony ala the Boston recording.


If it was only audio but they also have video.

http://nypost.com/2017/11/09/court-docum...=pasteboard_app

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I don't think Cotroni ever STOPPED being the Bonnanos official capo, in Montreal. The question was always, the Bonnanos exert control in Montreal through the Cotronis. The Rizzutos were in control of the heroin. Did the Cotronis control the Rizzutos, and by extension, the heroin network, and by extension, did the Bonnanos control the heroin network?

I think it's clear, the Cotronis didn't control the Rizzutos.

( I read something on another forum, about George from Canada being killed cause he killed one of Cotronis sons, then they went and hid the info, lol...)

What I see here is the Bonnanos:
1. Trying to establish their own international connections to the drug pipelines.
They are doing this through the Violis, who, were described as having international reach, likely plugged into the coke network through Calabria.

2. Rectified a mistake made decades ago by actively working with the Violis, who were part of the original decina that was loyal to the Bonnanos.

3. They SENT THEIR OWN GUY UP THERE TO LOOK AFTER THEIR INTEREST!!!

Biggest reason they lost out from the get-go is they relied on initiating Sicilians to look after their interest, when the Sicilians were looking after THEIR own interest. They shoulda sent Americans up there to keep an eye on things, instead of being content with just a cut of the money.

Interesting they made a point of saying, " You answer to the Bonnano Family"..... They shoulda told Nick Rizzuto that...... Instead of allowing him to disrespect Violi, Their official representative....


4. Y'all know we gotta have a serious discussion about Buffalo now right?
(How long before JustSayNo shows up???!!)


It doesn't surprise me, take this from Mafia Summit.......

“But Magaddino of Buffalo controlled the smuggling routes from Canada, and that lent him enormous weight. Within the organization schema of organized crime, the Queen City, the City of Good Neighbors, the City of Light—all chamber of commerce nicknames for Buffalo—possessed a surprising primacy.


In this sense, strictly in terms of the 1950s mob geography, the choice of Apalachin had a logic all its own. Dope was becoming more and more the new reality of the mob, and Apalachin fell squarely within the territory of Magaddino, one of the country’s leading dope smugglers. Concealed in trucks and cars rattling down from Buffalo, headed to New York City on Route 17, shipments of heroin completed the last leg of their long international journey.


So this isn't even a new thing, like at ALL.

Also, if the Violis were now in control of what's left of Buffalo, maybe they have influence on the border up there as well, this would make them pretty powerful in the drug game....

5. The guy who taped the ceremony, this is a good example of why the most successful drug cartel-clans, are based on family. Because all they really need is TRUST.

6. It's interesting, all these years, looking for made guys, large street crews-street presence, nothing. But they start tracing the drug routes and players, and Lo and behold, a Buffalo LCN operation is unearthed.......

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Givanni Commisso name does not appear on the RCMP web page. I question if Globe & Mail may have made a mistake about him.


The arrests of Giovanni Commisso and Jing Git Wong last month were linked to this operation.


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Undercover agent inducted into Mafia in secret ceremony captured on video by police.
The incident was an unexpected highlight in a large drugs, guns and money probe snaring alleged mob figures on both sides of the Canada-U.S. borders

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Givanni Commisso name does not appear on the RCMP web page. I question if Globe & Mail may have made a mistake about him.


The arrests of Giovanni Commisso and Jing Git Wong last month were linked to this operation.


Thanks Hollander for the info.

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Interesting analysis.


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A Canada-wide warrant has been issued for Giuseppe Violi, so they didn't arrest him.


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We know that it is last years there is a war between the Sicilians and the N'drangheta in Canada do you think that if the Bonnano or other families of New York want to reintroduce in Canada Calabrais will remain nothing to say?

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We know that it is last years there is a war between the Sicilians and the N'drangheta in Canada do you think that if the Bonnano or other families of New York want to reintroduce in Canada Calabrais will remain nothing to say?


As shown by the evidence, they get along fine, in fact they are pretty tight business wise. Ultimately they are all part of the same thing.


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Strange. I think its fuzzy. Was this a real induction yet no burning saint or cutt finger? It was done by a 44 yr old acting capo wasnt the bonannos having big xmis partys with that guy joe c as new boss. It happend in canada so it 10hours away from nyc guys. It will make them the laughing stock again. And that guy zumma will be kicked out the family but hes gonna get 10 yrs any way. I will say if vito was alive he prkbaly wouldnt have inducted a agent with out the proper back ground check. Donnie brasco in Canada. Genovese strip you naked amd give you a bathrobe then they do the saint and blood shit. That was 15 yrs ago.

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This all sounds so fugazy. Looks like the acting capo flipped in Canada and he brought up the NY guy to straighten out all these cops or one cop from Canada that he said were in his crew. That's why the video and recording. It was totally under the Canadians cops control. No knife, gun, administration or other capos like the one in Boston. This sounds like the Fresolone or the prison bathroom making ceremony. I cant' wait to see the tape.

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It sounds weird. A 44yr old acting capo ran the induction ceremony? Did thus agent buy his so called button where he probaly gave them a ton of money and this guy just brought him to lunch and said now your a made guy but never cleared it with anyone of the bosses in nyc cause they would never find out anyways montreal 10 hrs away. So they got a agent inducted into the family and they only busted a acting capo and a bonanno asscociate for selling coke. All that for a 2 guy bust. It sounds like the violi fentanyl operation has no connection to these guys. They had a inducted agent in montreal but they still havnt solved 1 of those 100 murders connected to vito rizzuto. Waste of time i would say. The guy ray d brother was murder this week and the agent has no clue.

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It kind of sounds like its right out of the movie Sting. They set up the NY guy to come to Canada to be present or conduct the making ceremony with the informant/agent by the captain informant just to capture it on camera and maybe make the guy fit for being stupid later on. The article says this happened in 2015 i wonder what they have been doing since?

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That is a hell of a lot of assumptions of an indictment we still know little about. As if the feds would come out with all that information before legal procedures have even begun...


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Your wright i did just assume the whole shit probaly wrong on the whole shit.

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Do the feds and the Canadian mounties have good working relations. They bust alot of people bringing the good weed into the usa at the borders but that could be dea.

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We know that it is last years there is a war between the Sicilians and the N'drangheta in Canada do you think that if the Bonnano or other families of New York want to reintroduce in Canada Calabrais will remain nothing to say?


As shown by the evidence, they get along fine, in fact they are pretty tight business wise. Ultimately they are all part of the same thing.


Exactly let's wait what the undercover says at the trials to be made he had to be on the inside for a long period.

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Accused Violi brothers in trafficking bust come from colourful family

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Accused Violi brothers in trafficking bust come from colourful family

https://www.google.nl/amp/s/www.thestar....ful-family.html


Is that Peter Edwards seen with Violi in the picture?

Paul Volpe must've been extremely lucky that he somehow got away with 'cheating' Magaddino, considering what happened with other guys in his family who wronged him...


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Accused Violi brothers in trafficking bust come from colourful family

https://www.google.nl/amp/s/www.thestar....ful-family.html


Is that Peter Edwards seen with Violi in the picture?

Paul Volpe must've been extremely lucky that he somehow got away with 'cheating' Magaddino, considering what happened with other guys in his family who wronged him...


That's not Peter Edwards in the photo with Violi. I don't know who the unidentified guy is.

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@pmac

That is a hell of a lot of assumptions of an indictment we still know little about. As if the feds would come out with all that information before legal procedures have even begun...


Don't worry it's pretty big !

I've been posting for years now that everything we got since the 70's came from the north and fast ! the families along its borders my have gone under the radar but are not gone .

Canada and US mob are alive and well and bringing in loads and loads of shit and making a small fortune.

Not saying that they are the be all end all but it makes for a great environment for guys like this to make a living.

Do not know about after 911 but before you could get anything and anyone across that border to make for a perfect situation for what these guys do or need .

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If Buffalo is still active along the border maybe the same goes for Detroit. I read Anthony (Tony Pal) Palazzolo is looking after its affairs in Canada.

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Hollander there is always a chance" these guys do not go away and they want to be around others like them .

I know there are others in western parts PA that are still active, now don't get me wrong I not saying they are in white collar crime but they are sill doing what they know.

The guys north and west of Philly and NY are no doubt sill getting money through regular rackets and it's not hard to find out who is left in these towns.

I am in no way saying there are full mob structure or a complete defined family but they are trying and they still bring family and there in laws family from Italy over because they trust them just that little bit more.

It's all they know and young guys love the life even if it's just a small book and little protection thing .


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So are the violis capos in the buffalo family or maybe there the bosses? Like how the boss in new england goes from providence to boston. But ive heard its hard to go across the boarder with any type of felony. I heard even if you try to go to by he Canada side of Niagara falls with a dui theyll detain you. Maybe also why non of the bonanno boss could get into montreal maybe why they sent a 44 yr old acting capo he didnt have a record. I cant see any of the bonanno bosses say that guy joe c trying to sneak into montreal they lock him up for a few years probaly.

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maybe the buffalo family killed musitano to revenge papalia and take over hamilton rackets
i think that the bonanno's are almost surely involved in the montreal war at this point

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maybe the buffalo family killed musitano to revenge papalia and take over hamilton rackets
i think that the bonanno's are almost surely involved in the montreal war at this point


The lupara bianca of desjardins convinced me probably two Bonanno factions fighting.


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So are the violis capos in the buffalo family or maybe there the bosses? Like how the boss in new england goes from providence to boston. But ive heard its hard to go across the boarder with any type of felony. I heard even if you try to go to by he Canada side of Niagara falls with a dui theyll detain you. Maybe also why non of the bonanno boss could get into montreal maybe why they sent a 44 yr old acting capo he didnt have a record. I cant see any of the bonanno bosses say that guy joe c trying to sneak into montreal they lock him up for a few years probaly.


I don't think they would be crossing legally " and it's very easy to cross anyplace really but the border .

I would think it would set off a red flag with guys like this crossing legal . To this day there is large scale drops not far from the border to move things .

If it's summer and they use a boat they could move tons with very low risk of getting stopped "

I heard of guys pulling stuff under water by jet ski and police think you are out for a ride " now 911 has raised that to a different level but still how many legal paperwork boats and other can they really pull over .

They are crossing at will .

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Does anyone feel like issuing an apology to me now???


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Does anyone feel like issuing an apology to me now???


Forget it. Most have their heads up their butts, but there will be a few to issue an apology.
I don't buy Joe Violi is the boss, he is the underboss, while one of the Luppino brothers is the Capo of the crew, maybe Natale, but Tony is more active up there. The other Capo is Bruno.

The Bonanno acting Capo, Zumma is a Mancuso loyalist.


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I thought it was strongly agreed upon the Bonnano's were no longer an entity in Canada. I'd never heard of the Bonnano capo involved in this case. I think the making ceremony wasn't "official," but to just bleed the undercover agent dry.

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Im not holding my breath.

Natale is a captain and hes been in and out of Buffalo for the last 5 years moreso than ever. I heard he has property in Fort Erie. Tony was at Falzones funeral along with a bunch of other Canadian guys.


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Look for a big book bust in Buffalo soon too, and by soon I mean the next year.


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Thats what i think gerry. I mean i get everyone in the rizzuto crew has been purged and maybe the american went up to montreal the agents greed blinded him next thing he says your one of us keep kicking me money.

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When they say agent i know its a different language up there. They mean he was a sworn in cop or a confidential informant working for the police? Either way what a shit show. It will be fascinating when it comes out but why would it. This guy were all assuming or i am is located in montreal will he ever even testify in nyc federal court about whoever was buying and selling a kilo of coke. With the sal the iron worker murder the judge sealed everything from the public but alot leaked to the press up there. The arm was always writting about the buffalo family i dont ever remember anyone saying the violi kids were part of that family makes sense the grandfather was and after there father was killed they were sent to him in buffalo territory. I did see the todaro jr on the travel channel a few times . When ever one of them food show hosts travel there hes on talking pizza or wings.

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The Violi brothers have always been with Buffalo. Todaro Jr. only gets tribute on occasion, his son is actually a real capable guy with lots of ties in Niagara and Hamilton


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It's also interesting the 'ndrangheta has established such strong links to the American LCN.


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To put it in perspective. Violi sr was a made bonanno in montreal under controni. Also he must have been made probaly by joe bonanno late 50tys 60tys. When phil rusty wants the captain's vote to become official boss in 1973 controni sends violi sr to some nice hotel in Manhattan to vote for rusty. Rusty goes to jail in 75 carmine galante takes power gives nick rizutto sr the ok to kill guys and take over montreal i think. And the violi sons held that grudge for 40 yrs and slaughterd the whole rizzuto family.

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The Violis didnt slaughter the whole Rizzuto family. Many more teams killing the Rizzutos than them.


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Probably only the guys who were behind the murder of their father and uncles.


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Nick scarfo had the luchese family in new jersey protect his son nick jr from the south philly guys and eventually they made him a luchese member. Seems like the grandfather luppino or watever the name brought his grandkids into the buffalo family. Yaeh weres thearm and mrjustsayno. Cold out.

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Pmac: Think those boys were run off here ! Cold down here .


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Thats what i think gerry. I mean i get everyone in the rizzuto crew has been purged and maybe the american went up to montreal the agents greed blinded him next thing he says your one of us keep kicking me money.


Yeah, It's similar to Greg DePalma telling that fat Cuban FBI agent Jack that he was gonna get made. He was just getting his hooks in him to bleed him for all he could, so he tell him whatever he wanted to here.

These bust show us that unless you're involved in that life you really don't know what's going on. There are always guys in these bust that were under the radar and high ranking who nobody knew about like that Corso guy in the Crea bust.

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Thats what i think gerry. I mean i get everyone in the rizzuto crew has been purged and maybe the american went up to montreal the agents greed blinded him next thing he says your one of us keep kicking me money.


Yeah, It's similar to Greg DePalma telling that fat Cuban FBI agent Jack that he was gonna get made. He was just getting his hooks in him to bleed him for all he could, so he tell him whatever he wanted to here.

These bust show us that unless you're involved in that life you really don't know what's going on. There are always guys in these bust that were under the radar and high ranking who nobody knew about like that Corso guy in the Crea bust.


This is basically what goes on with every associate who wants to get their button. Not just with Garcia. The capos squeeze them for all the cash they can get from them and tell them that maybe one day, if they play by the rules and keep kicking money up, he might, just might get straighten out. Not only did that happen to Garcia but to Pistone aswell with Lefty and it also happens to every associate who's in the life. If you are not earning you aint getting in. And if you aren't kicking up you can't be on record and fly under the family flag. If the associate can sustain all the kicking up he will eventually be proposed as long of course, if he keeps his mouth shut, plays by the rule, keep kicking up, can do jail time and is capable of comitting violence then he might get proposed. Just my opinion.

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In the vice Canada article it says a undercover confidential i formant not a cop. Im leaning towards a montreal guy whose been around and stared working for the Canada agents to get out of a big drug case. Probaly was throwing around the agencys money.

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Buffalo Family still active?
I thought they were ending in the same way as the Kansas family.
How many families of the American Cosa Nostra are still alive?

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Mafia initiation ceremony details revealed in FBI transcript

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Definitely still alive everyone, please save your opinions they arent. Kansas City is probably the most likely other than Buffalo and Detroit to be alive (as an actual crime family) out of the small families.


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It really is something how some of these families been involved in that life for generations, and the fact they survive to this day. Love them or hate'em, it's impressive.

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You have to be careful listening to these so called experts claiming certain families is defunct, these experts is leading you astray because they have family and friends in those families


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Originally Posted By: thebigfella
You have to be careful listening to these so called experts claiming certain families is defunct, these experts is leading you astray because they have family and friends in those families


Also you have to remember the Feds claims that they got rid of the mob and spent loads of cash doing so .

Now all these city's that once had families are all of a sudden completely rid of mob members is ridiculous . Not that is 1970 but that is what they do and for many there sons and nephews etc are involved at some point .

I would say there are still many members involved in crime under the old flag of the mob .

I only know about one that is supposed to be gone and when I go to see the old boys it just like it was minus the outward appearance that some of the NY and Philly guys have done. These guys just adjusted to what they can do in all aspects and are laying low like it should be.

They are not flamboyant they do not live above their means and do not talk it up and that huge if you want to have a thing going .

I guess we will see soon because I am sure the Feds will want to cash in on anything they can just like the men they hunt.

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2002 Halton Police report had intelligence on accused mobster

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2017/...ed-mobster.html

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2002 Halton Police report had intelligence on accused mobster

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2017/...ed-mobster.html


Good article. With these recent events, we will start to be privy to more information about these two brothers.

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2002 Halton Police report had intelligence on accused mobster

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2017/...ed-mobster.html


Good article. With these recent events, we will start to be privy to more information about these two brothers.


There is some serious discussion on the forums about whether these Violis were made into an American LCN family. I've always assumed that Domenico and Giuseppe Violi were inducted into the Luppino 'ndrina once they were old enough--this would have had to happen after grandfather Giacomo died unless, as boys, they were made at a young age. It would be crazy if, just like their father, they were made into an American LCN family.

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Hamilton police officers allegedly aided accused mobster, leaked report reveals

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2002 Halton Police report had intelligence on accused mobster

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2017/...ed-mobster.html


Good article. With these recent events, we will start to be privy to more information about these two brothers.


There is some serious discussion on the forums about whether these Violis were made into an American LCN family. I've always assumed that Domenico and Giuseppe Violi were inducted into the Luppino 'ndrina once they were old enough--this would have had to happen after grandfather Giacomo died unless, as boys, they were made at a young age. It would be crazy if, just like their father, they were made into an American LCN family.



Ndrangheta: In the Società Minore, the lowest tier is occupied by the giovane d'onore (youth of honor), which are descendants of Ndrangheta members and would make them honorary members by blood right.
I believe the two brothers being Giacomo's grandchildren would qualify them to be Giovone d'onore at birth & become members at age of maturity if they so desire.
Where people differ on this subject is whether there is such a thing as dual membership, in other words can a Ndrangheta member from Calabria or Mafia member from Sicily settling in Canada for example, also become member of the LCN ? There are those that do believe the Violi's, Luppino's and/or the Rizzuto's fall in one of those two scenarios. There are others that believe you must quit one to become the other.
Taking into account either scenario, permission would be needed and it would have to benefit both parties.

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I believe they can be both Paolo Violi was a member of Bonanno and 'ndrangheta.

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The Violi brothers have connections all over Europe that's only possible when they are tied to 'ndrangheta.


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@Ciment @Hollander I hope to reply in a bit to your last one or two posts, as the case may be. Perhaps I'll address everything in one post.
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Links to tweets (photos):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXpj0JWAAY492g.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrNwmWsAAz-AW.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrSO3X0AU0GnH.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrV_7WkAE6RCP.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOYOS2KU8AAXFk3.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOtqiybUIAUHKum.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOtr3D9X0AAeVKw.jpg:large
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https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407536364703745

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407609437900805

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407716854034432

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929446127845421057

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/930955061399826432

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/930956426335408128

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Good info...... thanks

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So those mustaino brothers were trying to get that guy ken murd... to kill the violis brothers after frank paps was killed who was backing them and im sure there dead today cause they tried to kill the violi bros. Really interesting its so far away from montreal.

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@Ciment @Hollander I hope to reply in a bit to your last one or two posts, as the case may be. Perhaps I'll address everything in one post.


Looking forward to that, the subject of double affiliation could clarify a bit what is going on in Canada. In Italy we have seen 'ndrangheta and camorra bosses who were made in cosa nostra.


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Someone posted violi sr wire from the early 70tys and he was saying how you could be a made guy in the italian family's but you also had to be inducted into the american familys. Seems the violis were part of the buffalo family but also a cell of the narrgetta or how you spell it. The father was a bonanno guy but probaly with the nar...... same with the cherry hill gambinos think they were all made in sicily but when they came to the usa carlo gambino inducted them into the lcn to put them on a even playing field like all the rest of the guys in nyc.

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Angelo Musitano was gunned down six months ago. The Spectator’s Nicole O’Reilly brings us up to speed on the police investigation into his murder.

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Someone posted violi sr wire from the early 70tys and he was saying how you could be a made guy in the italian family's but you also had to be inducted into the american familys. Seems the violis were part of the buffalo family but also a cell of the narrgetta or how you spell it. The father was a bonanno guy but probaly with the nar...... same with the cherry hill gambinos think they were all made in sicily but when they came to the usa carlo gambino inducted them into the lcn to put them on a even playing field like all the rest of the guys in nyc.


I believe you are referring to the problems Paolo Violi was having with Nicola Rizzuto sr. Nicola(sicilian made man) did not want to follow protocol basically was conducting certain business without Paolo knowledge; and Paolo took exception to that. He also wanted to impose something like a 5 yr waiting period if memory serves correct, for a Sicilian made man to be inducted into the LCN.

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@Ciment @Hollander I hope to reply in a bit to your last one or two posts, as the case may be. Perhaps I'll address everything in one post.
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For now, let's all enjoy the photos tweeted by the private investigator Derrick Snowdy, the one who provided the Star newspaper in Toronto with copies of the Halton Police intelligence report.

Links to tweets (photos):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXpj0JWAAY492g.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrNwmWsAAz-AW.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrSO3X0AU0GnH.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrV_7WkAE6RCP.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOYOS2KU8AAXFk3.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOtqiybUIAUHKum.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOtr3D9X0AAeVKw.jpg:large
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https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407536364703745

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407609437900805

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407716854034432

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929446127845421057

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/930955061399826432

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/930956426335408128


Antimafia, Derrick Snowdy posted another.

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy

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So these 2 brothers musitano used this ken murduc guy some say is a drug addict to take out these other made guys and was attempinv to get the violi brothers. I thought these guys take care of shit themselves sounds weasly. How come they never got life sentences for having that guy ken murder these old dudes. Talk about no respect for your elders.

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@Ciment @Hollander I hope to reply in a bit to your last one or two posts, as the case may be. Perhaps I'll address everything in one post.
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For now, let's all enjoy the photos tweeted by the private investigator Derrick Snowdy, the one who provided the Star newspaper in Toronto with copies of the Halton Police intelligence report.

Links to tweets (photos):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXpj0JWAAY492g.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrNwmWsAAz-AW.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrSO3X0AU0GnH.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrV_7WkAE6RCP.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOYOS2KU8AAXFk3.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOtqiybUIAUHKum.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOtr3D9X0AAeVKw.jpg:large
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https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407536364703745

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407609437900805

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407716854034432

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929446127845421057

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/930955061399826432

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/930956426335408128


Antimafia, Derrick Snowdy posted another.

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy


Fantastic. I didn't know about Jimmy Deleo's daughter marrying Frank Commisso (class of '44). I also didn't know that, apart from the Rosetta Commisso-Domenico Luppino wedding that has received numerous mentions in books and articles over the years, there were a number of other Commisso-Luppino couplings. Thanks for sharing!

Links:

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/932956063241928706

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPKGlnWX0AEJSzu.jpg:large

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Today I hadn't checked Twitter yet till a few minutes ago. Derrick Snowdy posted the family tree just for me--I'm @CdnOrgC. :-)

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Is Domenica Todaro at the top related to the Buffalo Todaro family?


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Is Domenica Todaro at the top related to the Buffalo Todaro family?


It's just a coincidence. I suspect she was born in Oppido Mamertina, which is in the Calabrian province of Crotone--there are Todaros among the inhabitants of that comune, which is where her husband was born.

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@Ciment @Hollander I hope to reply in a bit to your last one or two posts, as the case may be. Perhaps I'll address everything in one post.
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For now, let's all enjoy the photos tweeted by the private investigator Derrick Snowdy, the one who provided the Star newspaper in Toronto with copies of the Halton Police intelligence report.

Links to tweets (photos):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXpj0JWAAY492g.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrNwmWsAAz-AW.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrSO3X0AU0GnH.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXrV_7WkAE6RCP.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOYOS2KU8AAXFk3.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOtqiybUIAUHKum.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOtr3D9X0AAeVKw.jpg:large
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If you want to see some of the comments in relation to these photos, go to the following links, some of which will take you to the same thread:

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407536364703745

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407609437900805

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407716854034432

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929446127845421057

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/930955061399826432

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/930956426335408128


Antimafia, Derrick Snowdy posted another.

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy


Fantastic. I didn't know about Jimmy Deleo's daughter marrying Frank Commisso (class of '44). I also didn't know that, apart from the Rosetta Commisso-Domenico Luppino wedding that has received numerous mentions in books and articles over the years, there were a number of other Commisso-Luppino couplings. Thanks for sharing!

Links:

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/932956063241928706

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPKGlnWX0AEJSzu.jpg:large


If you look up the obituary below you will see the connection. I didn't know about Giovanni either.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thestar/obituary.aspx?n=joseph-deleo&pid=125189440

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It's just a coincidence. I suspect she was born in Oppido Mamertina, which is in the Calabrian province of Crotone--there are Todaros among the inhabitants of that comune, which is where her husband was born.


oppido mamertina is in reggio calabria province
anyway i think joe todaro was sicilian

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It's just a coincidence. I suspect she was born in Oppido Mamertina, which is in the Calabrian province of Crotone--there are Todaros among the inhabitants of that comune, which is where her husband was born.


oppido mamertina is in reggio calabria province
anyway i think joe todaro was sicilian


You are absolutely correct about the province; I typed "Crotone" because some Ancestry.com users are mistakenly using "Castellace, di, Oppido Mamertina, Crotone, Calabria, Italy" as the place where their ancestors might have lived. (I've been updating a family tree for the Luppino family ever since Ciment posted a link to the Luppino family tree that appears on Twitter.) My apologies to all.

Luppino's birthplace has been stated in several books and articles as Castellace di Oppido Mamertina or just Oppido Mamertina. Reporter Dan Nolan's obituary about Giacomo's son Vincenzo stated that Vincenzo was "[b]orn in 1926 in Castellace (Reggio Calabria) Italy."

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I no im one of the posters clumping these indictments with each other. The bonanno guy who recoreds himself in montreal or in the suburbs and was close to a few gambino guy but the people in this hamilton indictment and the bonanno probaly never even crossed paths in life.

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Interpol issues red notice for alleged Canadian fentanyl dealer

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...anadian-fentanyl-dealer/article37835332/

Excerpt:

At the November news conference for the RCMP-led Project OTremens, police described Mr. Grzesiowski and his co-accused – including brothers Domenic and Giuseppe Violi, sons of slain Montreal mob boss Paolo Violi – as "well-known" members of organized crime.

Charges were laid at that time against nine men, and Canada-wide warrants were issued for five outstanding suspects, including Mr. Grzesiowski.

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"Interpol joins hunt for Innisfil man suspected of trafficking fentanyl"

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...n-suspected-of-trafficking-fentanyl.html

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Below are some of the articles and links I found at the end of last November regarding Massimiliano Carfagna. If anyone wants a PDF of the older Toronto Star article, please send me a PM.

ONTARIO MAN HELD FOR JURY IN JULY 11 KICKING DEATH
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http://buffalonews.com/1992/07/23/ontario-man-held-for-jury-in-july-11-kicking-death/


PEOPLE v. CARFAGNA
212 A.D.2d 960 (1995)
624 N.Y.S.2d 986
The People of the State of New York, Respondent, v. Massimigliano Carfagna, Appellant
Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of the State of New York, Fourth Department.
February 3, 1995
https://www.leagle.com/decision/19951172212ad2d9601459

Man faces murder charge
A Mississauga man has been indicted on murder charges in Niagara Falls, N.Y. Massimigliano Carfagna is accused of beating a man to death last July. He's being held on $50,000 bail.
Toronto Star; Toronto, Ont. [Toronto, Ont]10 Sep 1992: A6

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Any info on the guy he killed?


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Below are some of the articles and links I found at the end of last November regarding Massimiliano Carfagna. If anyone wants a PDF of the older Toronto Star article, please send me a PM.

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Man faces murder charge
A Mississauga man has been indicted on murder charges in Niagara Falls, N.Y. Massimigliano Carfagna is accused of beating a man to death last July. He's being held on $50,000 bail.
Toronto Star; Toronto, Ont. [Toronto, Ont]10 Sep 1992: A6


I double checked my records and saw that there was no Toronto Star article--the content right above was part of a short news roundup.

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Another article about Carfagna's pleading guilty.

Second dealer pleads guilty to drug charges after four-year investigation

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...-guilty-to-drug-charges-after-four-year/

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Giuseppe Violi is sentenced to 16 years. Domenico Violi's trial has not yet begun.

Son of murdered mob boss sentenced to 16 years in prison for drug trafficking

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...ears-in-prison-for-drug-trafficking.html

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Giuseppe Violi is sentenced to 16 years. Domenico Violi's trial has not yet begun.

Son of murdered mob boss sentenced to 16 years in prison for drug trafficking

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...ears-in-prison-for-drug-trafficking.html


Wow 16 years !

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Giuseppe Violi is sentenced to 16 years. Domenico Violi's trial has not yet begun.

Son of murdered mob boss sentenced to 16 years in prison for drug trafficking

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...ears-in-prison-for-drug-trafficking.html


Didn't think he would get that much time. Was hoping to hear more about the trial as it was going on, but never saw anything till this verdict.

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Drug trafficker given 16 years in prison despite glowing references

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...ars-in-prison-despite-glowing-references

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Witton Luu of Toronto, who was one of the five people for whom a Canada-wide warrant was issued last November (Giuseppe Violi was among those five), died two days ago while in custody at Joyceville Institution in Kingston, Ontario. No reason has been given yet as to the cause of death. This strikes me as a suspicious death, as Luu was probably transferred to Joyceville for intake assessment to determine whether he would be classified at the minimum, medium, or maximum security level. I think that Joyceville was his mother institution.

Inmate dies at Joyceville Institution

https://globalnews.ca/news/4392034/inmate-dies-at-joyceville-institution/

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16 yrs in cnanda isnt bad im almost positive you do half the sentence so he'll be out in 8yrs maybe lil more. if he was caught in usa with all that fentanyl he get a solid 20yrs. they had him on tape gloating about bringing crack to hamilton in the early 90tys the judge in usa would have sentence him to the moon. hes lucky some 24 yr old around me in quincy ma just got 20yrs yesterday for 2 kilos of fentanyl thats alot of death. i dont no how people can sell that shit you have no heart. coke or crack its the same to me its a rich man drug and the nexr day when your moneys gons get up go to work. still kinda wonder who were the other members of the bonanno family in canada who traveld from montreal to hamilton to induct the wired up guy. we now the 1 acting capo forgot his name drove up there and did a bullshit induction without the burning saint or gun but the other members were there and all approved and told him the rules. they said the violis brothers were part of the buffalo family correct board? why didnt they induct this guy in hamilton. i guess he was a queens guys on record with that crew of kids

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Originally Posted by antimafia
Witton Luu of Toronto, who was one of the five people for whom a Canada-wide warrant was issued last November (Giuseppe Violi was among those five), died two days ago while in custody at Joyceville Institution in Kingston, Ontario. No reason has been given yet as to the cause of death. This strikes me as a suspicious death, as Luu was probably transferred to Joyceville for intake assessment to determine whether he would be classified at the minimum, medium, or maximum security level. I think that Joyceville was his mother institution.

Inmate dies at Joyceville Institution

https://globalnews.ca/news/4392034/inmate-dies-at-joyceville-institution/


The reporter updated her article. Luu’s death may have been from a suspected drug overdose. See https://globalnews.ca/news/4392034/inmate-dies-at-joyceville-institution/ once again.

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Hamilton community leaders vouch for drug-dealing mobsters

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/violi-1.4933813

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L'industrie du cannabis dans la ligne de mire d’un proche de la mafia

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1141277/wojciech-grzesiowski-mandat-recherche-cannabis-canada

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Doppie affiliazioni, tregue e affari: chi ha rimpiazzato i “Sopranos” canadesi
Domenico Violi è il boss del clan Luppino-Violi, gli unici rimasti a Hamilton, quarta città più popolosa del Canada e “laboratorio” del crimine organizzato

https://irpimedia.irpi.eu/luppino-domenico-violi-canada/

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Doppie affiliazioni, tregue e affari: chi ha rimpiazzato i “Sopranos” canadesi
Domenico Violi è il boss del clan Luppino-Violi, gli unici rimasti a Hamilton, quarta città più popolosa del Canada e “laboratorio” del crimine organizzato

https://irpimedia.irpi.eu/luppino-domenico-violi-canada/


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Dentro la “malavita” liquida canadese, tra faide sopite nel nome degli affari

https://it.blastingnews.com/cronaca...ite-nel-nome-degli-affari-003428386.html

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https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/brantford-man-charged-in-major-rcmp-cocaine-bust-1.5805168

noone mentioned is linked to OC yet but it is a lot of cocaine coming into canada.

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https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2022/cbsa-and-rcmp-make-major-cocaine-bust-and-lay-charges

1.5 tonnes=close to 200 million alot of yack.
wonder who the larger group is doing the import and don't know anything about the man arrested.

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The dark Mafia legacy that Joey Violi says he is trying to outrun
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mafia-legacy-joey-violi

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The dark Mafia legacy that Joey Violi says he is trying to outrun
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mafia-legacy-joey-violi


Nice article thanks, Violi probably felt bad to talk in the open and not behind closed doors.


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The dark Mafia legacy that Joey Violi says he is trying to outrun
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mafia-legacy-joey-violi


Ontario man released on parole despite 'deeply engrained criminally oriented mafia family'
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/giuseppe-violi-mafia-parole

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“File information indicates you are an associate/member of an organized crime group (Colombo’s or Bonanno’s crime family of New York City). You and a family member are also affiliated with the Luppino crime family (the Luppino-Violi crime family in Hamilton). Likewise, file information from your first sentence indicates your family has ties to traditional organized crime in Montreal, and your father and two uncles were victims of homicide (1978).”

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^^^^
See my tweet at https://twitter.com/CdnOrgC/status/1649047590128975875 -- which is under Adrian Humphreys's tweet in which he links to his article from today -- as well as the replies.

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the continuing revolving door of canada.
sentenced to 18 years i think and he has served less than 6?...meh close enough set em loose.

with both brothers back on street hamilton may continue to get re organized.
i give no credence to colombo connect. perhaps colombos were low in numbers as well as bonannos and these 2 families were options? if wanting to be made into a ny family. best evidence tells us g. violi accepted neither.

if indeed g.violi is not a member of either bonannos or colombos what does this tell us?
1. possible he was arrested before a ceremony could take place.
2. turned down membership?
3. other possible reasons???

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the continuing revolving door of canada.
sentenced to 18 years i think and he has served less than 6?...meh close enough set em loose.

with both brothers back on street hamilton may continue to get re organized.
i give no credence to colombo connect. perhaps colombos were low in numbers as well as bonannos and these 2 families were options? if wanting to be made into a ny family. best evidence tells us g. violi accepted neither.

if indeed g.violi is not a member of either bonannos or colombos what does this tell us?
1. possible he was arrested before a ceremony could take place.
2. turned down membership?
3. other possible reasons???


From Adrian Humphreys's Dec. 4, 2018 article:

There was debate, according to the informant’s alleged conversations with Violi’s younger brother, Giuseppe (Joe or Joey) Violi, on whether he should be “made” by the Bonanno Family, to which their father belonged, or by Buffalo.

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The dark Mafia legacy that Joey Violi says he is trying to outrun
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mafia-legacy-joey-violi


Ontario man released on parole despite 'deeply engrained criminally oriented mafia family'
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/giuseppe-violi-mafia-parole


Murdered mob boss’s son granted day parole, plans to return to Hamilton
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...-parole-plans-to-return-to-hamilton.html

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Yeah sorry my bad. Don't know where or why I had colombos in my head...as it makes no freakin sense. No more NyQuil tonight I guess...yikes. bonannos or buffalo is more to the ticket good catch again sorry.

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You got Colombo from the article. It says he's a Associate/member of the Colombo or Bonanno Family.

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hmmmmmmmm...still makes no sense.
colombos have nothing to do with canada never have never will. i imagine g. violi would have turned that offer down. to quote alec baldwin from glengarry glenross..."because a loser is a loser."

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I'll agree it doesn't make much sense since this is just coming out when it was reported years ago he had a choice between the Buffalo and the Bonanno Family and its confirmed in the transcripts. But I'll also say the Colombo Family in Canada isn't something new. Believe me or not but I'm saying I know of some Colombo guys up there.

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I also found it odd that Buffalo wasn’t mentioned

Originally Posted by Mafia101
I know of some Colombo guys up there.

Currently active or back in the day?

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there is no answer forth coming. the colombos have never put on snow shoes and worked in canada, anywhere at anytime. maybe canadian citizens whose last name is colombo. or a colombo guy once watched an episode of colombo on tv in toronto. no crew, no members no nothing.

i would suggest mafia101 to start a new thread about this as to not derail this one off topic.

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Vito I'm not someone who makes anything up. When I speak about something here it's because it's the truth and I'm telling you there is Colombo activity in Canada. No thread is going to be made about it until names come out publicly just like how I never mentioned Louie Rainone being a major player in Cicero until Scott Burnstein wrote about him. I don't know anything about Giuseppe Violi and his possible Colombo affiliation but maybe there is a connection there. 10 years ago no one would of said there were Gambino or Los Angeles members in Ontario and then we learned Albert Iavarone and others were made in Los Angeles. The fact the parole board read from a file Giuseppe Violi is a Associate or member of the Bonanno or Colombo Family reveals there's some knowledge from law enforcement of the Colombo Family being involved up in Canada.

I'm never going to mislead anyone with my posts or fabricate anything like some do here no matter if you agree or disagree with me. That should be painfully obvious for some of you who were in the other thread. I go solely on facts and what we can prove.

Luankaci I'm talking about currently. That's all I'm saying about it here until names come out and to respect Vito's request to not derail this post.

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A year before his arrest Dom Violi attended a meeting with Michel Cotroni and about 20 others in a popular Montreal eatery named Linguini restaurant located in Baie d’Urfé. So they still were in contact with Montreal. The restaurant in the west of Montreal was later ravaged by a suspicious fire reports said it was a meeting of mobsters exiled in Ontario, who would try to regain control of Italian organized crime in the metropolis.

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its possible it was just a dinner amongst old friends.
possible was a meeting amongst some criminals.
possible a little from column A a little from B.

the cotronis are not still a thing though in montreal. not a crew, cell what have you. no living members have shown any active criminality in over a decade. last reference was from 2006/2008 grandkids of frank sr growing pot for export to US. they served little time was not a big bust.

i know some will disagree on here but the name cotroni carries no weight in current day montreal mafia/OC circles.

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https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...nk-cotroni-burns-down-his-brothers-house

another not so recent and bizarre story of cotroni's.

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
its possible it was just a dinner amongst old friends.
possible was a meeting amongst some criminals.
possible a little from column A a little from B.

the cotronis are not still a thing though in montreal. not a crew, cell what have you. no living members have shown any active criminality in over a decade. last reference was from 2006/2008 grandkids of frank sr growing pot for export to US. they served little time was not a big bust.

i know some will disagree on here but the name cotroni carries no weight in current day montreal mafia/OC circles.


yes, the only recent case was when Jimmy Cotroni and Francesco Cotroni found themselves on the opposite ends in a criminal case where the latter is a victim after his younger brother Jimmy torched his home in the Laurentians while it was being renovated.LOL

I see you posted the article Nicodemo has not been mentioned in 20 years he was arrested in 2000.

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
its possible it was just a dinner amongst old friends.
possible was a meeting amongst some criminals.
possible a little from column A a little from B.

the cotronis are not still a thing though in montreal. not a crew, cell what have you. no living members have shown any active criminality in over a decade. last reference was from 2006/2008 grandkids of frank sr growing pot for export to US. they served little time was not a big bust.

i know some will disagree on here but the name cotroni carries no weight in current day montreal mafia/OC circles.


FWIW, †Pierre de Champlain (buonanima) had described in his books that Frank Cotroni Sr. and Paolo Violi did not have a good relationship, as the former resented the latter. Vic Cotroni overlooked his own brother in favour of Violi when Vic needed to step back from his duties -- in terms of formal mafia affairs, Violi became acting captain of the Bonanno decina. Violi was incredibly competent, whereas Frank was incarcerated much of the time.

Vito would know that there's a thread that ties some of Frank Sr.'s guys in Quebec to the Quebec guys with whom Domenico Violi was collaborating in relation to contraband cigarettes. It could certainly be the case that Paolo Violi's sons and Frank Cotroni Sr.'s sons did not let their fathers' poor relationship affect the decision to have dinner.

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'Walk and talk': Massive RCMP mafia project targeted Burlington neighbourhood
Milton the epicentre of investigation, writes Stephen Metelsky

The following is the first instalment in a three-part series.

https://www.insidehalton.com/opinio...fff5ff7-1de3-5922-a48e-56d3fc18a02f.html


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'Walk and talk': Massive RCMP mafia project targeted Burlington neighbourhood
Milton the epicentre of investigation, writes Stephen Metelsky

The following is the first instalment in a three-part series.

https://www.insidehalton.com/opinio...fff5ff7-1de3-5922-a48e-56d3fc18a02f.html


Part 2

https://www.insidehalton.com/opinio...5c43712-65b1-5272-af9a-f21c2e297f20.html


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Mafia boss's son released on full parole after serving time for importing cocaine and fentanyl
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/giuseppe-joey-violi-parole-drug-trafficking

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