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Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys #918479
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Hi!

I'd like to hear real life stories about the mob that you heard or personally experienced. I'm no fed or anything, just a regular guy that is interested in mob stuff and wiseguys.

I'd like to hear real stories so guys please do no troll or lie about anything. Just let us know what you know about real wiseguys apparently what we see on the movies is not real or realistic. We wanna know the real deal on how they are as people and how the live their lives. And don't tell me to go read books I've already read some books we just wanna discuss here what you guys experienced or heard.

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918482
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I used to live in Williamsburg which was once Bonnano territory. I saw Tony Rabito around the neighborhood a few times. But mostly I saw this guy when I went to get a hero sandwich. He made my sandwich a few times, was always friendly and was often joking around with the other guys in the store. Unfortunately he died and they closed. Although I live in Queens now I would still go back there if it was open because the sandwiches were great. The place across the street Emily's is still there though and I have been back for it... Not very exciting but all I do is eat so that is all I can offer

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mob-guy-mike-butcher-takes-final-cut-article-1.1128525

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918484
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My real life stories with the Pittsburgh LCN is well documented. I have previously posted several pictures of me sitting with their upper echelon, Charlie Murgie, Michael Genovese and Jo Jo Pecora. My avatar is Henry Zottola aka.Zebo on the night I was married.


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Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918485
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Was scarfo jr. made before he went to the lukes?

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918501
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Im aquantiented with patsy ebolis grandson who is also tommy ebolis great nephew. He sent me a picture from his family album with patsy in italy w lucky. I also know a kid who has met whitey bulger when he was a child...thats it. Ill post the eboli pic at some point

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Extortion] #918503
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I posted a story @ least a yr.ago about an altercation I had w/ Tory Scafidi back in the early eighties,,way 2 lazy 2 look 4 it now,but u can try..it IS humorous @ he is an asshole 2 say the least...A real mook.


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Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: hoodlum] #918505
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Retired Patriarca capo Biagio Digiacomo seated my wife and I at his restaraunt a few years back.

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: hoodlum] #918515
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Originally Posted By: hoodlum
I posted a story @ least a yr.ago about an altercation I had w/ Tory Scafidi back in the early eighties,,way 2 lazy 2 look 4 it now,but u can try..it IS humorous @ he is an asshole 2 say the least...A real mook.


Yeah I've read that, interested. But who is that Tory? Is he still alive? How did he look like when you met him?

To all the other guys posted here thanks for your interesting stories. Keep 'em comin'


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Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918521
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I saw Vinny Ocean at his strip club in Houston more than a couple of times, back when I interned at a law firm near there. It's closed now and I suppose he is a rat so I never met a legitimate wiseguy.

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Chicken713] #918522
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Originally Posted By: Chicken713
I saw Vinny Ocean at his strip club in Houston more than a couple of times, back when I interned at a law firm near there. It's closed now and I suppose he is a rat so I never met a legitimate wiseguy.


That house he had/has on Memorial Drive is gaudy as hell. Typical dbag new money trash. But I'm broke so i guess the jokes on me, lol.


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Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Stubbs] #918528
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Idk if he moved or not after he was outed in Texas. He shook down that one strip club but legal fees and all that. Houstone (Tango Blast) runs most brothels in Houston. He was friendly with them can't say names but I had some clients that frequented there. They helped him out with strippers that would do extra but once his real name got out it was over for sure. Never seen him since it got closed down. Only reason I recognized him is me being a nerd about LCN OC. Criminal Defense in Houston is mostly drugs and/or blue collar fraud.

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918531
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Mid 2000's I was at LAX airport with my wife. I saw Henry Hill a few tables over from me at a cheesy airport restaurant. He was talking on his cell phone and drinking. He was a sweaty, bloated and drunk hot mess. I told my wife about Goodfellas and she said, "Ray Liotta looks nothing like him." Henry was in bad shape. Never spoke to him and no one recognized him. It was sad.


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Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918539
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I saw Reggie kray in prison in the early 90s. and also used to talk Mad Frankie Fraser in a care home he used to been in he was funny guy and told many stories smile

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918543
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Saw Tony Scotto at his kids' restaurant back around 2004. Have seen some Trenton based Philly members around town throughout the years. One has a family connection to us but I don't remember him too well (was killed when I was young).

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: blueracing347] #918560
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Originally Posted By: blueracing347
Was scarfo jr. made before he went to the lukes?

Nope, he was only an associate.

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918562
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Was at a wedding when I first got out of college, Luca Dimatteo(capo Colombo's) and Joe Waverly Cacace were there with both of their crews. They looked the part and def were bad ass looking doods along with their crews. Being a young kid I was kinda in awe

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918564
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Originally Posted By: Madonn
Originally Posted By: hoodlum
I posted a story @ least a yr.ago about an altercation I had w/ Tory Scafidi back in the early eighties,,way 2 lazy 2 look 4 it now,but u can try..it IS humorous @ he is an asshole 2 say the least...A real mook.


Yeah I've read that, interested. But who is that Tory? Is he still alive? How did he look like when you met him?

To all the other guys posted here thanks for your interesting stories. Keep 'em comin'

Tory Scafidi was a Scarfo Sr. thug/knuckledragger,a real des,dos & dem knitwit..all brawn,no brain,kinda looked like a gorilla...was,is about a couple yrs. older than me,,prob about late 50s now..I think he's down FLA. now,I may b wrong,,check the back of Leonetti's book or a more know knowledgeable poster may help.


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Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Tommydesimone44] #918680
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Originally Posted By: Tommydesimone44
Was at a wedding when I first got out of college, Luca Dimatteo(capo Colombo's) and Joe Waverly Cacace were there with both of their crews. They looked the part and def were bad ass looking doods along with their crews. Being a young kid I was kinda in awe


What wedding? Is one of your uncles connected? If you don't mind, elaborate on your story. Sounds really intereststing.

To the rest of you guys thanks for replying and keep the stories comin'...

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918683
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I used to see this old guy in westside guy around worcester around 10yrs ago. Deli n donut coffee place. Blows my mind a newspaper recently well masslive which is located in springfield mass. He was collecting 500 bucks aweek from the strip clubs in springfield guy was almost 90. Hes been dead awhile like 10yrs. My aunt an older friends had more interactions with him and his peoples which was big but that was in 60tys 70tys 80tys.

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Used to see howie winter around at sams club wholesale place but its been awhile.

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918685
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2grand a month. 24k a yr from one ghetto as club in springfield. I know its 2017 could you imaginez what the alleged boss barney gets kicked up shit he must run out of places to hide the cash. Rember them bookies around philly with the 2 mill hidden in the back yard in pvp pipes or whatever there called.

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: pmac] #918749
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Originally Posted By: pmac
I used to see this old guy in westside guy around worcester around 10yrs ago. Deli n donut coffee place. Blows my mind a newspaper recently well masslive which is located in springfield mass. He was collecting 500 bucks aweek from the strip clubs in springfield guy was almost 90. Hes been dead awhile like 10yrs. My aunt an older friends had more interactions with him and his peoples which was big but that was in 60tys 70tys 80tys.


I'd imagine he'd collect at least one grand a week. 500 sounds too little from a club, but what the fuck do I know. Imagine guy is 90 years old collecting money? It's amazing.

Re: Real life stories/encounters with wiseguys [Re: Madonn] #918844
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Oh yeah I ate at anthony scottos restaurant when he was there and he looked right out of the godfather with the long black coat and fedora...i said "have a good night" and he didnt say anything back lol

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Originally Posted By: pmac
I used to see this old guy in westside guy around worcester around 10yrs ago. Deli n donut coffee place. Blows my mind a newspaper recently well masslive which is located in springfield mass. He was collecting 500 bucks aweek from the strip clubs in springfield guy was almost 90. Hes been dead awhile like 10yrs. My aunt an older friends had more interactions with him and his peoples which was big but that was in 60tys 70tys 80tys.


Let me guess: Carlo Mastrototaro. right? big into porn in the '70s. I think Al D'arco mentioned him in his book. Died in '09.


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Originally Posted By: Extortion
Oh yeah I ate at anthony scottos restaurant when he was there and he looked right out of the godfather with the long black coat and fedora...i said "have a good night" and he didnt say anything back lol


Old fart never worked a day in his life so excuse his lack of etiquette.


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Oh yeah I ate at anthony scottos restaurant when he was there and he looked right out of the godfather with the long black coat and fedora...i said "have a good night" and he didnt say anything back lol


Old fart never worked a day in his life so excuse his lack of etiquette.


He lectured at Harvard.

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Had dinner with John 'Cha Cha' Ciarcia at his restaurant in Mulberry St back in 2013. Was a fun night, he shared some funny stories.

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I did not personally encounter a wiseguy BUT, I did work with the son of the guy who taught Richard Kuklinkski how to do the cyanide and bomb stuff...He NEVER talked about it. Who would want to talk about his dad's murder.

Kuklinski eventually whacked the guy out. His name was Robert Prongey. So was his sons name....His son now lives in Canada.
He drove the Mr. Softee truck in Hudson County but I was just a kid then (born in 1978)
Not sure when Kuklinski whacked him out.

This Kuklinkski story was one of the very true ones.
I live like 1 mile away from Kuklinski's house in Dumont and always imagine him returning home on Christmas Eve after whacking someone. CRAZY!

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I've met some high ranking members of a triad organisation around 15 yrs ago

Several times in fact, because I knew their underlings and was invited to their parties. I would be seated at a table and we were all served a huge amount of drinks (which bizarrely nobody touched)

The higher ranked guys would order champagne and sit talk amongst themselves

Another time I was introduced to "Tony Lombrani" who was a hench man that was sent down along with the Krays

He did a long time too. Anyway, had no idea who he was and when I was introduced- the club owner who was a friend of mine said he's a big gangster

They told Tony I was a big mafia fan so tony asked IF I had read his books?

lol I hadn't and that was the worse feeling ever. But he was a cool guy, had one bodyguard with him. They left to go do a "line" upstairs with the club owner and Tony says to me (my name is Tony too) "u WANNA line Tony?"

I politely declined

Not surprised when he died of a heart attack few months after/ saw it in the papers




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