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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Dwalin2011] #918250
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Maybe they finally put a consortium together or they are running short on hitters.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Dwalin2011] #918251
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It's vacation season, they will go back at it again soon !!

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Originally Posted By: Ciment
It's vacation season, they will go back at it again soon !!


Yeah it is. If there are no major hits in the autumn then maybe there is a status quo, peace or someone prevailed. It's intriguing how things calmed down when the Scoppa group was busted. I still think some guys are marked.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #918259
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Wow, looks like Cazzetta will be back at home soon.


The article to which I've linked below clarifies some issues.

Hells Angel Salvatore Cazzetta won't face a gangsterism charge

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...sterism-charge/




An update:

Salvatore Cazzetta demande sa libération provisoire

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-provisoire.php


Another update: Cazzetta was released this morning.

Salvatore Cazzetta libéré provisoirement

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...visoirement.php

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Dwalin2011] #918260
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
It's already for some time that they don't whack an important mafioso in Montreal (or even a soldier). Has the last stronghold of "mafia civilization" become "boring" like the rest? smile Not so long ago they were still at it like in the 50s at least, if not like in the 30s. Even in Sicily they keep more quiet today than they were in Montreal during Vito Rizzuto's absence, the Montagna-Desjardins-Di Maulo alliance cleaning the place from Rizzuto loyalists and later, when Vito came back, "the reverse cleaning" from the ones responsible for killing the Rizzuto group members. Even after Vito died, they were still continuing. But lately, nothing relevant, have they gotten bored? Or has somebody won the war finally so there is nobody to kill?

I still say they should have given Desjardins the maximum penalty, this was the only hope (even a slight one) that somebody who really knows much would give up information about who the "big players" are today. After Vito Rizzuto died, with Montagna and Di Maulo whacked and Desjardins in prison, we can't even make realistic allegations about who has been killing whom on whose orders and who is on top now, who has lost etc.....


For one, no way were they giving Desjardins the maximum because they reached a plea deal. You don't plea out to maximum penalties. For two, there was not and will not be a chance that he flips either. He's just as hardcore as any Sicilian gangster can be.

As for the killings, we have to realize that Arcadi, Del Balso, Rizzuto and others are in jail. Even Sollecito is battling jail and cancer so it's not like any of the top gangsters in Montreal are currently walking the streets.

And let's not forget Angelo Musitano was just hit when? Last month? That was pretty significant.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: dixiemafia] #918266
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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
And let's not forget Angelo Musitano was just hit when? Last month? That was pretty significant.


May have absolutely nothing to do with Montreal.

As for Montreal, most of the so called round-table members are on the streets.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: dixiemafia] #918281
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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia

For one, no way were they giving Desjardins the maximum because they reached a plea deal. You don't plea out to maximum penalties.

Exactly, that's why I think they shouldn't have made a plea deal, so they could have given the maximum.

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia

For two, there was not and will not be a chance that he flips either. He's just as hardcore as any Sicilian gangster can be.


Most likely you are right, but one can never know....Angelo Lonardo in Cleveland was grown in the mafia, his father was a mafia boss, he killed his first target at 18 years, was sentenced to life and later got off, became acting boss, was already old, who would think he would flip? Or Massino in New York, nobody expected him to, although Lonardo's example is more significant imo, he grew old in the mafia, usually at that age one doesn't "change directions" that suddenly. Desjardins isn't young either, and has served jail terms before, maybe, just MAYBE, he wouldn't have wanted to do another 25 and would have gotten tired after another 10 or 15.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Sonny_Black] #918285
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
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It's vacation season, they will go back at it again soon !!


Yeah it is. If there are no major hits in the autumn then maybe there is a status quo, peace or someone prevailed. It's intriguing how things calmed down when the Scoppa group was busted. I still think some guys are marked.


I agree with you on this one.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #918287
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Originally Posted By: Ciment
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It's vacation season, they will go back at it again soon !!


Yeah it is. If there are no major hits in the autumn then maybe there is a status quo, peace or someone prevailed. It's intriguing how things calmed down when the Scoppa group was busted. I still think some guys are marked.


I agree with you on this one.


So true


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Sonny_Black] #918316
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
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And let's not forget Angelo Musitano was just hit when? Last month? That was pretty significant.


May have absolutely nothing to do with Montreal.

As for Montreal, most of the so called round-table members are on the streets.


Oh I agree, but you have to also think it could have something to do with Montreal as well.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: dixiemafia] #918320
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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
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And let's not forget Angelo Musitano was just hit when? Last month? That was pretty significant.


May have absolutely nothing to do with Montreal.

As for Montreal, most of the so called round-table members are on the streets.


Oh I agree, but you have to also think it could have something to do with Montreal as well.


It's all connected Cattolica Eraclea, Montreal, Ontario, New York.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #918363
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Originally Posted By: Ciment
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It's vacation season, they will go back at it again soon !!


Yeah it is. If there are no major hits in the autumn then maybe there is a status quo, peace or someone prevailed. It's intriguing how things calmed down when the Scoppa group was busted. I still think some guys are marked.


I agree with you on this one.


But disagreed on everything else. tongue


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Sonny_Black] #918365
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But disagreed on everything else. tongue

Looks like I agree once again. shhh

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #918367
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Do you mean the 5 Families from New York City have to do with the things in Montreal and Ontario?

And if yes, what is the Contact to New York?

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Do you mean the 5 Families from New York City have to do with the things in Montreal and Ontario?

And if yes, what is the Contact to New York?


I was talking about Bonannos, Rizzutos and Caruana-Cun treras. Ik know things with NY changed after the Sciascia murder, but after Massino became a turncoat NY warned Rizzuto so they were still on speaking terms. The two families go way back I don't see them completely server ties.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #918434
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http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...n-project-magot


Alleged Montreal Mafia leaders request trial separate from others accused in Project Magot.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #918435
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http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08/13/un-commerce-vise-par-un-cocktail-molotov-au-mont-royal

A Molotov cocktail was launched on to a luxury car rental company, located on Côte-de-Liesse Road in the Mount-Royal borough on Saturday night.

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Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08/13/un-commerce-vise-par-un-cocktail-molotov-au-mont-royal

A Molotov cocktail was launched on to a luxury car rental company, located on Côte-de-Liesse Road in the Mount-Royal borough on Saturday night.


I'm fairly certain the owners of Location Prime Leasing--David and Michel Bitton--are the founders of Buffalo Jeans.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #918448
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Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08/13/un-commerce-vise-par-un-cocktail-molotov-au-mont-royal

A Molotov cocktail was launched on to a luxury car rental company, located on Côte-de-Liesse Road in the Mount-Royal borough on Saturday night.


I'm fairly certain the owners of Location Prime Leasing--David and Michel Bitton--are the founders of Buffalo Jeans.


On the surface they seem legit. Interesting that they would be a target.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #918530
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Wondering whether incident described in linked article below is like or related to the murder last month that might have occurred at a wedding reception in St-Leo.

Both murders may have nothing to do with the mob war. The victim of the murder in July has yet to be identified, and police seem to have no suspects in that case.

"Police investigate shooting during soccer match in St. Leonard park"

http://globalnews.ca/news/3676268/police...t-leonard-park/

Last edited by antimafia; 08/17/17 12:51 AM. Reason: Clarified that two recent murders may be unrelated to mob war.
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http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...es-dun-parc.php

A Mafia executioner murdered near a park

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #918535
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Originally Posted By: antimafia
Wondering whether incident described in linked article below is like or related to the murder last month that might have occurred at a wedding reception in St-Leo.

Both murders may have nothing to do with the mob war. The victim of the murder in July has yet to be identified, and police seem to have no suspects in that case.

"Police investigate shooting during soccer match in St. Leonard park"


http://globalnews.ca/news/3676268/police...t-leonard-park/


I believe the reception hall shooting may have been street gang related.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #918538
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Originally Posted By: Ciment
I believe the reception hall shooting may have been street gang related.


Thanks for that. Is this a possible reason for the victim's not yet being identified by the SPVM?

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #918544
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Originally Posted By: antimafia
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I believe the reception hall shooting may have been street gang related.


Thanks for that. Is this a possible reason for the victim's not yet being identified by the SPVM?


Unlike Toronto it is very unusual for MTL press not to release names, there must be a good reason.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #918552
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De Blasio had influential members of the mafia and street gangs among his relationships, according to our sources. It would have served as a link between street gangs and mafia clan leaders for the execution of several murders committed in recent years and whose victims did not always belong to the same groups.

He probably knew too much.

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More news about yesterday's murder of Antonio De Blasio.

"Un mafioso abattu sous les yeux de son enfant"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/08/17/un-mafioso-abattu-sous-les-yeux-de-son-enfant

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #918589
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"Timeline: How Francesco Del Balso ended up back behind bars"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ck-behind-bars/

"Montreal Mafia leader has first release hearing since home invasion"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...-home-invasion/

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
"Timeline: How Francesco Del Balso ended up back behind bars"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ck-behind-bars/

"Montreal Mafia leader has first release hearing since home invasion"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...-home-invasion/


Paul Cherry has updated the second article above. On Twitter, where his handle is @PCherryReporter, he tweeted the following not too long ago:

https://twitter.com/PCherryReporter/status/898643754369785856

Montreal Mafia leader Chit Del Balso sees release revoked. Tells parole board he knows someone wants to kill him.

4:32 PM - 18 Aug 2017

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So the "holidays" have ended, like some posters above predicted. They are at it again. Maybe there is still "hope" for "civilization" in Montreal smile

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