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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914302
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going for death penalty will only hurt their case, ny jury would never vote for death in almost every case, so if the jury knows they may kill someone, could find mistrials over and over..my opinion

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914303
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if florida or texas, warm up the chair or get the needle ready..hey maybe that is why so many rats live in those states..juries have no problem doling out a death penaly decision

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914345
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I'm not saying LE shouldn't go after LCN guys but in 2017 the Italian organised criminal is surely way down the list of bad guys.

But,I think they're victims of their own success. They were once the most dangerous, wealthiest criminals around and they DID/do have an aura of glamour and mystery. Thats why i think LE loves to target them but their actual danger is now minimal, especially compared to other threats.


A lot of the reports are putting Madonna in the top seat, even if no ones saying he's the official boss. That apperently still seems to be Amuso. Although I'm willing to bet that his name never came up in whatever info the Feds were privy too.

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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914346
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It never ceases to amaze me that people still make excuses for them and criticise LE for going after them considering the sheer scope of the amount of illegal profits they are accruing, not to mention the tentacles they continue to spread into legitimate business mainly construction, flooding cities with drugs, the amount of money they add to YOUR cost of living, the dangers they pose to decent society with asbestos, illegal landfills, construction shortcuts etc.

The amount of black people that are in overcrowded prisons for little or no reason, yet these lazy shitbags who haven't worked a day in their lives and live in mansions are still "illegitimate targets" to some.

I assume everyone here works 9-5?

Does it not piss you off?

If only it was the 1860's, vigilanteism was still a thing and these lazy pricks could be tarred and feathered.

Just my two cents.

*Lazy shitbags and lazy pricks as in organised crime gangs in general


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #914347
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
It never ceases to amaze me that people still make excuses for them and criticise LE for going after them considering the sheer scope of the amount of illegal profits they are accruing, not to mention the tentacles they continue to spread into legitimate business mainly construction, flooding cities with drugs, the amount of money they add to YOUR cost of living, the dangers they pose to decent society with asbestos, illegal landfills, construction shortcuts etc.

The amount of black people that are in overcrowded prisons for little or no reason, yet these lazy shitbags who haven't worked a day in their lives and live in mansions are still "illegitimate targets" to some.

I assume everyone here works 9-5?

Does it not piss you off?

If only it was the 1860's, vigilanteism was still a thing and these lazy pricks could be tarred and feathered.

Just my two cents.





More it's always been that way it's Americans they fall in love with a story in there head .

You see how people would fall in love with Dillinger , Bonnie and Clyde , Billy the Kid it's no different, America loves the underdog and if they publicly apologize the American public will forget all about it !!!


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #914349
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
It never ceases to amaze me that people still make excuses for them and criticise LE for going after them considering the sheer scope of the amount of illegal profits they are accruing, not to mention the tentacles they continue to spread into legitimate business mainly construction, flooding cities with drugs, the amount of money they add to YOUR cost of living, the dangers they pose to decent society with asbestos, illegal landfills, construction shortcuts etc.

The amount of black people that are in overcrowded prisons for little or no reason, yet these lazy shitbags who haven't worked a day in their lives and live in mansions are still "illegitimate targets" to some.

I assume everyone here works 9-5?

Does it not piss you off?

If only it was the 1860's, vigilanteism was still a thing and these lazy pricks could be tarred and feathered.

Just my two cents.

*Lazy shitbags and lazy pricks as in organised crime gangs in general


i agre with you but why you say blacks are in prison for little or no reason? most of them are there because they are criminals. they may not be as bright as crea or cali but they are still criminals and belong to rot in prison.trump won because he understands this. you sound like u believe in white privilege.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914354
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Blacks are in prison for no reason ??? Haha, thats a funny statement. Too bad its totally false.
The liberal media makes it appear that most blacks are in prison for minor drug offenses like selling a small bag of weed or getting caught with a few joints..total bull shit. They are in for violent offenses amd selling large quanities of drugs that are more dangerous than weed ( crack and heroin). Lets not even talk about all the strong armed robberies, car jackings, home invasions, and murder.
I know more than a few white guys that did prison time for selling weed as well as minor gambling offenses yet no one talks about that.
Almost 80% of all blacks are born out of wedlock. Dont even tell me its due to poverty, look at all the wealthy black athletes and rappers, they all have out of wedlock kids. Thats a culture, not anything to do with the white man.
They stop having out of wedlock children and 85% of their issues disappear.
Hate to sound harsh but we all know its true.

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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: Aces] #914356
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Originally Posted By: Aces
Blacks are in prison for no reason ??? Haha, thats a funny statement. Too bad its totally false.
The liberal media makes it appear that most blacks are in prison for minor drug offenses like selling a small bag of weed or getting caught with a few joints..total bull shit. They are in for violent offenses amd selling large quanities of drugs that are more dangerous than weed ( crack and heroin). Lets not even talk about all the strong armed robberies, car jackings, home invasions, and murder.
I know more than a few white guys that did prison time for selling weed as well as minor gambling offenses yet no one talks about that.
Almost 80% of all blacks are born out of wedlock. Dont even tell me its due to poverty, look at all the wealthy black athletes and rappers, they all have out of wedlock kids. Thats a culture, not anything to do with the white man.
They stop having out of wedlock children and 85% of their issues disappear.
Hate to sound harsh but we all know its true.


youre 100% correct. its too bad that so many americans want to defend all these thugs. if they were white, they would want them to burn. black children have no role models, no man in the house and their mom fucks everyone. good american values arent being taught in these households.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #914359
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Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
It never ceases to amaze me that people still make excuses for them and criticise LE for going after them considering the sheer scope of the amount of illegal profits they are accruing, not to mention the tentacles they continue to spread into legitimate business mainly construction, flooding cities with drugs, the amount of money they add to YOUR cost of living, the dangers they pose to decent society with asbestos, illegal landfills, construction shortcuts etc.

The amount of black people that are in overcrowded prisons for little or no reason, yet these lazy shitbags who haven't worked a day in their lives and live in mansions are still "illegitimate targets" to some.

I assume everyone here works 9-5?

Does it not piss you off?

If only it was the 1860's, vigilanteism was still a thing and these lazy pricks could be tarred and feathered.

Just my two cents.

*Lazy shitbags and lazy pricks as in organised crime gangs in general


i agre with you but why you say blacks are in prison for little or no reason? most of them are there because they are criminals. they may not be as bright as crea or cali but they are still criminals and belong to rot in prison.trump won because he understands this. you sound like u believe in white privilege.


I recently read that if you didn't include non violent offenders the US would still have the most prisoners in the world. There is this myth floating around that says prisons are full of non violence offenders like weed smokers, but they are full of rapist, robbers, and murderers. Will never solve the problem of crime as long as the majority of people continue to lie to themselves.

Back to the case one of the articles claim Tindaro Corso is a capo, anyone ever heard of him before? Another interesting tidbit is one of the guys was charged in the Meldish murder was in prison when it actually happened. That tells me someone involved in the hit has possibly flipped or they got wiretaps of them talking about hits.

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Originally Posted By: GerryLang
Back to the case one of the articles claim Tindaro Corso is a capo, anyone ever heard of him before?


ive never heard of that guy and i doubt anyone else here has either. things move really fast in that life. theres quite a few guys out there who just fly under the radar for many years. before danny leo got indicted no one knew anything about him. same with robert debello. that gambino guy in staten island is another one.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #914363
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Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Aces
Blacks are in prison for no reason ??? Haha, thats a funny statement. Too bad its totally false.
The liberal media makes it appear that most blacks are in prison for minor drug offenses like selling a small bag of weed or getting caught with a few joints..total bull shit. They are in for violent offenses amd selling large quanities of drugs that are more dangerous than weed ( crack and heroin). Lets not even talk about all the strong armed robberies, car jackings, home invasions, and murder.
I know more than a few white guys that did prison time for selling weed as well as minor gambling offenses yet no one talks about that.
Almost 80% of all blacks are born out of wedlock. Dont even tell me its due to poverty, look at all the wealthy black athletes and rappers, they all have out of wedlock kids. Thats a culture, not anything to do with the white man.
They stop having out of wedlock children and 85% of their issues disappear.
Hate to sound harsh but we all know its true.


youre 100% correct. its too bad that so many americans want to defend all these thugs. if they were white, they would want them to burn. black children have no role models, no man in the house and their mom fucks everyone. good american values arent being taught in these households.


Very sell said my friend. Al Sharpton should get that tattoo'd on his chest.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914440
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Lucchese crime family funneled millions from hospital project

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The mob turned taxpayer-backed Bronx-Lebanon Hospital expansion into its own piggy bank.

Construction expenses at the hospital’s new nine-story outpatient center ballooned by some $5 million — with cash allegedly ending up in the pockets of the Lucchese crime family and hospital executives, The Post has learned.

Lucchese underboss Steven “Wonder Boy” Crea Sr. and associate Joseph Venice were charged with wire and mail fraud in connection with the project at “a major New York City hospital,” according to a federal indictment unsealed last week in a major mob takedown. But the document didn’t identify the hospital or reveal the scheme’s dirty details.

No Bronx-Lebanon executives were named in the indictment, but the federal probe, which began four years ago, is ongoing, and focused on hospital honchos whose palms may have been greased.

Crea, 69, had close ties to Sparrow Construction, the Bronx firm in charge of building the $42 million annex at Bronx-Lebanon. He was a regular visitor to the firm’s offices while the center was under construction, a source told The Post.

Crea worked for Sparrow before he was busted in a 2000 state racketeering case. At that time, he was considered the acting boss of the Luccheses.

Work began on the outpatient center in 2009 and was supposed to take 19 months. But the Health and Wellness Center wasn’t finished until 2014 and was plagued with cost overruns.

Sparrow was the general contractor and billed the hospital $26 million for only $21 million worth of work, sources told The Post.

The heating and ventilation system cost $2.3 million to install. Yet “the hospital still paid somebody $5 million” for it, the source said.

The alleged scheme was carried out through falsified invoices and change orders, the source said.

“The hospital didn’t question one change order,” the source said.

The bulk of the project was paid for through the sale of $36 million in state Dormitory Authority bonds. The hospital is paying back the Dormitory Authority over 25 years.

The 642-bed hospital serves mostly low-income patients. It nearly declared bankruptcy in the 1970s but the state bailed it out.

It receives about 60 percent of its revenue from the state Medicaid program, which amounted to $311.6 million last year, according to the state Health Department.

Yet it pays its execs handsomely.

Longtime CEO Miguel Fuentes’ total compensation came to $1.7 million in 2015, according to its latest tax filings. Fuentes lives a luxury lifestyle with a condominium on the Upper East Side and a Southampton retreat with a pool.

“We have no information whatsoever regarding the recently unsealed indictment,” a hospital spokesman told The Post.

Randy Silverstein, the head of Sparrow Construction, did not ­return a call seeking comment.


http://nypost.com/2017/06/04/lucchese-crime-family-funneled-millions-from-hospital-project/


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914450
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Crea jr looks older then his dad. 45 still young to start a life bid. Gotti was 50 or so and lived it up for a few yrs. Im going out on a limb crea jr flips like the kid in chicago. Boring sunday watching the travel channel joe tadaro the buffalo boss was on bizzare foods. He a made guy? He seems nice crazy he was boss in the 80tys when fat tony salerno told them were the big boys in nyc.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914488
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i figured that truscello would have been retired by now. wonder how active he was. he was always close with crea. also figured that the guy datello would have been a capo by now. i wonder how this case was made, because the crown jewel is the meldish murder and londonio and the guy caldwell obviously didnt flip... wonder if there is another informant ?

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914501
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They didn't get Joe C, Blue Eyes, Big Joey, or Fat Pete so the Lucchese are actually in good shape. I have always thought that Joe D is a Capo but with no soldiers under him as he served as a messenger between the Lucchese and Amuso. Tindaro Corso is with the Lucchese? I thought he belonged to Italy and only a soldier.


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Has any of the guys been taking out of mcc at midnight yet?i think the last time that many members of one family were taking down was massino and them and those guys turnt fast.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914689
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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
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Originally Posted By: bronx
vacuum at the top,, conte , zapploa, capra ect. next wave on top



True Bronx , the BK guys just maybe licking there chops !!!!


John castelucci who is the main capo in Brooklyn has also been indicted

The Jersey faction is much closer to the Bronx/Westchester faction than to Brooklyn. Especially in construction and trucking, which is that family's bread and butter. Time will tell. And I predict a heavyweight (who has been unhappy for some time) is gonna turn. Call it a hunch.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Originally Posted By: bronx
vacuum at the top,, conte , zapploa, capra ect. next wave on top



True Bronx , the BK guys just maybe licking there chops !!!!


John castelucci who is the main capo in Brooklyn has also been indicted

The Jersey faction is much closer to the Bronx/Westchester faction than to Brooklyn. Especially in construction and trucking, which is that family's bread and butter. Time will tell. And I predict a heavyweight (who has been unhappy for some time) is gonna turn. Call it a hunch.


John Castelucci? If someone is going to flip it will be someone from the Bronx.


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the guy who flipped may not have been indicted..anyone missing off the street?

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Originally Posted By: bronx
the guy who flipped may not have been indicted.

Ding, ding, ding. A winner. No wonder you and I always got along so well. Good seeing you here, old friend. Talk soon.


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how you been my friend? in fla. or da bronx

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In Florida. Recently made two posts in the Pizzaboy thread explaining things. One last week. One earlier tonight. I'm down here most of the time since I lost the old man. Lots going on. Much easier to build down here during the off season. But look who I'm telling lol.


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sorry about your father, i did not see those posts ill look now, lot of rain last few days, but south fla. needed it bad..booming here, i would love to have a concrete company about right now lol

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You ain't kidding. I was up in Jupiter today. Underwater!


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it won't mean much probably, but as a long time reader of this forum it is really awesome to see PizzaBoy posting again. Always was wondering if you'd return.


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Thanks, Primo. It's hard to describe. But it's like a weight has been lifted. Now I'm not saying I'll be an every day contributor. But I'll pop in from time to time when I innocently overhear something over a cappuccino and a few pignoli cookies lol. Thanks again, buddy. You're a good man.


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agree , stimulating , factual posts.. hope your doing better with your health concerns.. when your feeling ill , i prescribe for you to take two bundles of money and sleep for 6 to 8 hours. if you still feel ill take an additional two bundles..

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For sure. I understand that. Haha and now I am hungry


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
John castelucci who is the main capo in Brooklyn has also been indicted
The Jersey faction is much closer to the Bronx/Westchester faction than to Brooklyn. Especially in construction and trucking, which is that family's bread and butter. Time will tell. And I predict a heavyweight (who has been unhappy for some time) is gonna turn. Call it a hunch.


Holy Sh*t.
How the hell are you mate?
Hope you are well. My condolences about your father.
Drop me a PM on the other board for a chat if you've the time.
Good to see you mate.
Speak soon.

Last edited by SonnyBlackstein; 06/07/17 03:41 AM.

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Welcome back PB. cool Keep on keeping on.


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