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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914203
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The other families I am sure are looking at this and are wondering if they have a rat wired up .

Wonder how many different groups of Feds and police are trying to make a bust , one thing for sure if there are multiple agencies or teams in same agency are now envious and will be pushing for there own bust and time in front of the cameras .


They have to justify all the OT and boy do they get paid !!!


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JOSEPH DIBENEDETTO IS RUNNING THE LUCCHESE FAMILY NOW. HE IS A CAPTAIN AND ALSO VIC AMUSO SON INLAW.


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: Louiebynochi] #914209
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Originally Posted By: Louiebynochi
JOSEPH DIBENEDETTO IS RUNNING THE LUCCHESE FAMILY NOW. HE IS A CAPTAIN AND ALSO VIC AMUSO SON INLAW.


Is he a Queens guy or living in Brooklyn ?


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914210
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I never heard of him, is he a capo???


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914212
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He should be eyes and ears for Amuso And why he would not .

I can't say to much because it has to do with people that are on the fringes of the life , but his wife and him(or just the wife) are tight with the Persicos and there cousins who are in the life and not just one cousin a few of the made guys sisters and wife's all hang with this crowd.

I just don't know where he works out of Queens or BK or other , never gave it a second thought till today , but have seen and herd the names on the legit family members .


You would be amazed how close these people that are left are and how close they marry .

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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914216
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This really is a landmark case today. Some real heavy hitters were brought down and this is definately going to trial for the top guys given their age , wealth and charges. The most interesting matter in the indictment IMO are the attempt to connect with a South America cocaine distributed which is more rare today and if their is still some focus on that level I would expect today Calabrians are more in the mix. Also the hospital construction charges as commercial property over billing is probably pretty tough to bring charges on given the level of legal and tax advice these guys have access to .

Hats off to Westchester LE as this is the type of case you want to see LE going after with our tax dollars as this is some real shit with drugs , murders , shooting and large construction activity . This case and that last Westside NJ bust in 2015 was some impressive LE work ( assuming the cases don't implode lol ) . Some of the recent LE busts just seemed like some weak pointless stuff but not this one .

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914219
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joey di benedetto is a brooklyn guy. i have no idea if hes the boss or not but it wouldnt surprise me. he is a capo with a lot of money

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914234
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joey is from howard beach, running that family ?or bringing messages..? i think we should wait to see who is helping run the family..its early..joey nice guy but run that family my opinion no way..he is also onofrio modica's ex brother inlaw.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914235
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Read scarfo jr would meet tgis guy joe in queens and hand him bags probaly stuffed with cash that he would bring to amusos wife. The pics came up in scarfos trial. Wonder if that guy bowat gets the gig if hes in good shape he was underboss for awhile or that guy frank last.... these were the guys running the family for amuso and casso when they were running. Read capecis little article these guys are porked. Something about being part of the rico enterprise well using a firearm. Hold life sentence guess i was wrong about probation for trucello. Got some nice tans.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: bronx] #914236
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Originally Posted By: bronx
joey is from howard beach, running that family ?or bringing messages..? i think we should wait to see who is helping run the family..its early..joey nice guy but run that family my opinion no way..he is also onofrio modica's ex brother inlaw.


DiBenedetto is 48 years old and was still a soldier in 2008 (not sure when he got upped to capo, so not enough experience to run that family in my opinion.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914237
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Anyone know which Sportsbook this was that was part of the bust? I haven't had time to sit down and read the entire indictment between work and summer kicking off at the Jersey Shore lol

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914238
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How many times has Madonna been to prison 4 or 5 times?

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914239
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Dante i read the quick 30 page thing someone posted page b4. I didnt see anything specific probably charge a old gambling charge someone plead guilty to 10 yrs ago they reindicted for a rico predicate act.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914252
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Do y'all really still think it's a Brooklyn vs Bronx thing?
Serious question here...


I don't know if I still buy that explanation. Cause Amuso is still calling the shots...

I find it intriguing to say the least, that Amuso, a heroin guy, took over with Gaspipe, another drug guy, and the guy running the family ( Madonna) now is a longtime drug guy. They even trusted the Black guy, I think because he was another long term drug guy.

I'm always going back to the fact that Amuso came from the Gallo crew, a crew know to be very close to the Genovese, Gigante specifically. I think his clout with them might be underestimated. I wonder what his relationship with the Colombo- Persicos is?

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914253
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I think I said before, you got three of the five bosses, Official too, in jail. Perisco, Mancuso and Amuso. It's kinda weird and strange....

Then you got the Gambinos, who I can't tell if they are being run from NYC or Palermo......

I love asking the question, WHY ARE THESE GUYS POWERFUL, at all, STILL?

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914254
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It almost seems the earners are still respected, but the top slots are being reserved for the PROVEN heavy guys. Guys that absolutely won't talk....

I'll bet the Calabrians would only meet with a Madonna type....

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: CabriniGreen] #914259
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Why only with madonna ? And are the ndrangheta are working with the lucchese's ?

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: pmac] #914262
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Originally Posted By: pmac
Dante i read the quick 30 page thing someone posted page b4. I didnt see anything specific probably charge a old gambling charge someone plead guilty to 10 yrs ago they reindicted for a rico predicate act.


Thanks man, you would think they would at least list the Sportsbook web site if they're going to be dishing out gambling charges.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914264
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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914268
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Crea looks old....I wonder how he feels about bringing his son in now...all those construction connections-gotta believe he coulda set the kid up for a decent life...45 and facing life....UGLY...gotta think it weighs on him but who knows....and Madonna is a stone gangster.


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: Louiebynochi] #914275
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Originally Posted By: Louiebynochi
JOSEPH DIBENEDETTO IS RUNNING THE LUCCHESE FAMILY NOW. HE IS A CAPTAIN AND ALSO VIC AMUSO SON INLAW.


Isn't it amazing that we have someone on the board who is so highly connected they actually know who the new boss of a mafia family is 24 hours after the current admin is taken off the street.

Yawn.

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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #914278
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: Louiebynochi
JOSEPH DIBENEDETTO IS RUNNING THE LUCCHESE FAMILY NOW. HE IS A CAPTAIN AND ALSO VIC AMUSO SON INLAW.


Isn't it amazing that we have someone on the board who is so highly connected they actually know who the new boss of a mafia family is 24 hours after the current admin is taken off the street.

Yawn.


Lol.... pretty amazing... could probably get the FBI's top OC position if he plays his cards right .....

People keep brining up the Brooklyn vs Bronx power struggle....

I only know what I read here, in books and on news sites but it appeared as though the family was being ran very well and people were saying they were tight with the west side especially in construction....

It seems like Vic was being taking care of while the Bronx faction has been in control so why does everyone think they are just going to dissapear and lose all powerr???

This is a secret society I am sure all top guys have younger guys they are grooming that would just take over the remaining rackets (in Creas case all his legitimate and illegal construction stuff) and funnel the money up to these guys in jail and their family members no??

It seems like everyone has been eating and there hasn't been any internal issues so I don't see the Brooklyn faction rocking the boat or trying to start issues especially knowing the Feds are obviously closly watching them...

Wouldn't it be more plausible that the younger Bronx guys just step up???

Unless Vic does have more control then we realize and he has the power to dictate the new admin but even then it seems like the Bronx faction has been serving him well so would he even want to do that and potentially cause termoil in his family and the possibility of the Bronx faction not taking it and going after Brooklyn and if the Bronx stayed on top they could end up telling Vic to shove it... especially with the Westside connection is that something Vic would risk??

Just some thoughts.... I have no idea!!!

So interesting though!!!

Everyone was always saying how powerful Barney, Cali and Crea were and they were brining their families back to the promise land and I t almost made it seem like they were so isolated that they were untouchable...

Wonder how the top guys in other Familes are feeling about all of this... and what happens to all the Westside/Luke's joint ventures???

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914279
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I can kinda see why Al D'Arco called Steven Crea a pussy magnet.



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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #914280
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Originally Posted By: DanteMoltisanti
Originally Posted By: pmac
Dante i read the quick 30 page thing someone posted page b4. I didnt see anything specific probably charge a old gambling charge someone plead guilty to 10 yrs ago they reindicted for a rico predicate act.


Thanks man, you would think they would at least list the Sportsbook web site if they're going to be dishing out gambling charges.



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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914281
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I am sure that's why Amuso had many of them at the top of the family.

Wasn't BK guys just coming off a big bust or prison when power started to shift , because that is just common sense for a boss to make sure the family stays viable and I don't think it matters what borough .

The only favorites he may have is to BK or that area cos is this not his stomping grounds when he was on the street.


And the Bronx-BK thing was a thing on the boards for a long time I am sure that's where it coming from.


Also what's great is when people say that are from these areas that the charts are wrong people go crazy !!

This is just a example of just that , you may find out made guys that you never herd of or possibly skippers !!

Tons of guys never hit the radar and that's just the way they want it , not this driving around in a Rolls Royce on a heavily populated shore beach town where everyone can film you.

This Madonna many are pointing at him as a possible rat , you never know but I say no way .

Most likely someone very close to one of these big skippers or even bosses .

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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914282
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Due back in court in September; some could face death penalty. Though, since they are stone gangsters, this shouldn't concern them.

http://hudsonvalley.news12.com/story/35569851/alleged-lucchese-mafiosos-appear-in-court

Heh. The reporter is Irish. Never thought I would hear an Irish person reporting on the mafia.


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914283
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ALF bought a wheelchair just in time for the trial.

https://twitter.com/BronaghTumulty/status/870025280643108864


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Interesting that Crea, Jr is listed as a capo in one of those articles.


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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Due back in court in September; some could face death penalty. Though, since they are stone gangsters, this shouldn't concern them.

http://hudsonvalley.news12.com/story/35569851/alleged-lucchese-mafiosos-appear-in-court

Heh. The reporter is Irish. Never thought I would hear an Irish person reporting on the mafia.


Steven Crea's lawyer is supposedly the inspiration for Saul Goodman.



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Wow i watched that on the vice channel not long ago didnt think hes a big federal rico lawyer. These guys are fucked. Theres gonna be alot of guys at the defense table during trial cause these guys arnt gonna plead out at there age to 15 yr bids. If i had to pick a lawyer id find tommy shots guy are McMahon.

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