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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #949305
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Victim Beethovenstraat is the Croatian criminal Ivan Serdarusic
The Croatian would be a member of a gang and be in real estate.

BY: MARTIJN HAAS
August 4, 2018 10:18
Beethovenstraat
Het Parool reports today the identity of the Monday-liquidated 62-year-old man in the Beethovenstraat in Amsterdam. It was about Ivan Serdarusic. Not a well-known name in the media, but according to the newspaper, he belongs to a group of criminals who have been under fire for some time. Some members of this gang would have been liquidated earlier.

Conflict
Serdarusic, who lived in both the Netherlands and Croatia, would have been active in real estate. On the internet you can find a number of sites with his name on which Croatian real estate is offered. He would have had a conflict in the past with another criminal about the legality of a child that his wife would have had with another man.

Drug trafficking
A well-informed source reports Panorama that Serdarusic was mainly active in the drug trade. He would have been 'ripped' from a party of drugs, and had plans to punish those he thought of this. Apparently his enemies were ahead of him and they killed him before he could act himself. The gang to which the Croat belongs has been the interest of the investigative services for some time.

Shooter
The police are still looking for the gunman. He has carried out the liquidation almost nonchalantly, it seems. In daylight he shot down Serdarusic, while he enjoyed a consumption inside the restaurant Ferelli's on the Beethovenstraat. The archer, who is small in size, and quite muscular and 'sun-tanned', probably walked there through Amsterdam-Zuid in the direction of Museumplein. Witnesses would have seen him at that last location. During this flight, the perpetrator not only left his firearm, a pistol with a silencer. There is also a beige hat that probably belonged to him, a black laptop bag, a glove and a white-blue shirt. Items dropped so carelessly that they may also have been placed on the escape route as a distraction.


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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #949422
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During a shooting at Koffiehuis Het Kalf in the Kalversbos in Delft a man was shot dead Tuesday morning. It is the notorious Delft criminal Karel Pronk.
The shooting incident took place around 11.40 and according to witnesses three or five times would have been shot. According to emergency district 8, the victim was still resuscitated by ambulance personnel on the pavement next to the coffee shop, but the man died from his injuries. The victim would have arrived with his motorcycle at the coffee shop, after which he was attacked.
Karel Pronk was also called the 'The Hague Holleeder'. He was involved in prison escapes in the past and was convicted of murder, robbery and drug trafficking. For example, in the early 90s he was sentenced to 20 years in prison because of the murder of an orchid grower from Rijswijk. After his release in 2007 he moved to Spain, but he was still active as an entrepreneur in Delft. Then he was convicted several times for drug and violent crimes.
The shooter is still fugitive. There is still nothing clear about the cause of the shooting. The police have removed the crime scene and are looking for witnesses.


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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #949424
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Pronk was also involved in a big drug case with Curtis Warren.


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Someone reports that two suspects have been arrested for the murder of Karel Pronk. One would be a member of the Hell's Angels Rotterdam.


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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #949482
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Jamal M. who was shot dead two weeks in Barcelona would be on a hitlist. The list was intercepted in South America by US intelligence services. The potential client may be Ridouan Taghi, Holland´s most wanted fugitive.


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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #949655
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Originally Posted by Hollander




FORTIS FORTUNA IUVAT
Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #949724
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Billy did you hear The New Yorker podcast with Astrid. Although with a slightly distorted voice it is the first time we really hear her talk.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/crime-family



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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #950030
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In the car were persons related to the mocro maffia.

A vehicle has exploded in Puerto Banús (Marbella) shortly before 8:30 pm this Sunday, according to the Emergency Service 112 of Malaga. The explosion of the car , an Audi Q7, has occurred at the entrance to the port. As reported by the Emergency 112 service, the four occupants have managed to get out of the vehicle before it started to burn due to the explosion of the battery. No injuries have been recorded and in a matter of 20 minutes the car has been completely burnt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=wbcqvCqAKgc


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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #950918
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Last weekend five Dutch people were caught on the Spanish island of Mallorca during the smuggling of 300 kilos of cocaine to Mallorca. The drugs were loaded on a luxury motor yacht HCH-X, according to Spanish customs.
The customs boarded the yacht 27 kilometers off the coast of Ibiza. According to customs, the group used Mallorca as a logistics center for their cocaine business.
The Spanish study was done in collaboration with Europol and started in 2016 after the Spanish customs intercepted a ship with drugs. The motor yacht registered in Gibraltar picked up cocaine from other ships in the Mediterranean and brought it to the Spanish mainland.


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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #950920
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Last weekend five Dutch people were caught on the Spanish island of Mallorca during the smuggling of 300 kilos of cocaine to Mallorca. The drugs were loaded on a luxury motor yacht HCH-X, according to Spanish customs.
The customs boarded the yacht 27 kilometers off the coast of Ibiza. According to customs, the group used Mallorca as a logistics center for their cocaine business.
The Spanish study was done in collaboration with Europol and started in 2016 after the Spanish customs intercepted a ship with drugs. The motor yacht registered in Gibraltar picked up cocaine from other ships in the Mediterranean and brought it to the Spanish mainland.


Curious who got busted in this case.

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The owner of the yacht is a 54 year old man from Schagen a key suspect in a large money laundering investigation. Dutch authorities seized 38 office buildings and houses, kilos gold, watches, a Harley Davidson and cash.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
The owner of the yacht is a 54 year old man from Schagen a key suspect in a large money laundering investigation. Dutch authorities seized 38 office buildings and houses, kilos gold, watches, a Harley Davidson and cash.


Sounds like a "kamper" thing.

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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
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The owner of the yacht is a 54 year old man from Schagen a key suspect in a large money laundering investigation. Dutch authorities seized 38 office buildings and houses, kilos gold, watches, a Harley Davidson and cash.


Sounds like a "kamper" thing.


Yeah and/or outlaw bikers.


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A man from the Netherlands was shot dead in Peru. That happened Monday in Miraflores, a rich suburb of the capital Lima. The municipality of Miraflores says it is a settlement. According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in The Hague, the man was 62 years old.
The murder happened when the victim arrived at his home. Two archers came riding on a motorbike. The co-driver opened the fire. The Dutchman was hit three times in his head. The mayor of, where the murder was committed, says on Twitter that the Dutchman was imprisoned in the notorious prison Sarita Colonia. It is not known why he would have been convicted. Foreign Affairs does not make any statements about this.


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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #951054
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Drug trafficker Robert Milat (51) of Rotterdam would be the victim of the liquidation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8HS0Q7bXSs


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'Turnover synthetic drugs higher than AH'
PUBLISHED ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 25, 2018 10:56

Criminals have produced at least 18.9 billion euros worth of ecstasy and amphetamine in the Netherlands last year. That is in a study by the Police Academy. The majority of that money goes abroad. In the Netherlands, producers and traders would convert at least 3 to 5 billion.

Albert Heijn
The researchers note that these are very conservative estimates and that the real turnover is higher. It is the first time that the scale of production and the sale of synthetic drugs has been calculated so extensively. The calculated turnover is higher than the annual turnover of companies such as Philips and Albert Heijn.

600 million
What the profits are, according to the researchers, is more difficult to estimate. Producers would have earned over 600 million euros, and those who trade in synthetic drugs make more profit. Distributors and dealers abroad probably earn the most. The majority of these Dutch drugs are sold abroad.

China
The researchers write that the government does not effectively combat this production and trade. There are too few detectives to do research. The chance of being caught, especially for producers and traders who are higher up in the hierarchy, is low. The punishments given in the Netherlands are relatively low according to the researchers. All in all, the Netherlands is a good location for producers, partly because of the good logistic possibilities.

Imports of raw materials from, in particular, China are not sufficiently controlled. There is little diplomatic pressure to do anything about it.


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Notorious Scots crime gang linked to brutal gun murder at Dutch sex club

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/notorious-scots-crime-gang-linked-13140028


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Notorious Scots crime gang linked to brutal gun murder at Dutch sex club

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/notorious-scots-crime-gang-linked-13140028


I know the Moroccans and the Irish as well as assorted criminals from the Dutch underworld (bikers, kampers...) weren't too happy with Martin Kok, but I'm curious about what he did to piss off the Scottish as well.

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Notorious Scots crime gang linked to brutal gun murder at Dutch sex club

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/notorious-scots-crime-gang-linked-13140028


I know the Moroccans and the Irish as well as assorted criminals from the Dutch underworld (bikers, kampers...) weren't too happy with Martin Kok, but I'm curious about what he did to piss off the Scottish as well.


FBI and DEA were investigating them these are serious guys.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-42635866


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Notorious Scots crime gang linked to brutal gun murder at Dutch sex club

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/notorious-scots-crime-gang-linked-13140028


I know the Moroccans and the Irish as well as assorted criminals from the Dutch underworld (bikers, kampers...) weren't too happy with Martin Kok, but I'm curious about what he did to piss off the Scottish as well.


FBI and DEA were investigating them these are serious guys.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-42635866




Definitely. I don't see much of a "downfall" to be honest. Glasgow is like Liverpool or Dublin: a revolving door. Once a certain gangland figure is down, there's always another one waiting to pick up.

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The Amsterdam criminal investigation department takes into account that the attack with a knife on a man on Tuesday morning at the spy shop Spy City was a targeted attack. The victim is an employee of the shop. The 31-year-old man who is stabbed from behind is Sander de L. from Alkmaar. He has been seriously injured. Remarkable is that this Sander was the man, who directly delivered eavesdropping and security equipment to Astrid Holleeder. She recorded conversations with her brother Willem Holleeder with the equipment.


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Sounds like a textbook Antillean hit.

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The idea was to execute him, but the weapon refused. He was then hit on the head several times with the rifle probably a kalashnikov.

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There were reports about Holleeder having talks with a few NLS-connected criminals. A hit like this - albeit a botched one - doesn't sound too far off in that case. Though usually the NLS seem to be a bit more thorough in their hits than what happened here.

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The former drug lord Kobus Lorsé (73), who was convicted this summer for the shooting of his son-in-law John Wassink has been arrested. Lorsé was sentenced to 12 years in prison by the court in Breda last month. He was not present during the reading of the verdict. After the judge had ordered his detention, he was not to be found by the police. The arrest took place in Roosendaal, the same place where he often stayed and where also John Wassink was shot. The body of Wassink (45) was found in a sail on July 28, 2014, in the Markkanaal near Breda.


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The Gypsy King spend many years in the EBI the only extra secure prison here, years ago there was a plan by Zeljko 'Arkan' Raznatovic to free him by helicopter.


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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
There were reports about Holleeder having talks with a few NLS-connected criminals. A hit like this - albeit a botched one - doesn't sound too far off in that case. Though usually the NLS seem to be a bit more thorough in their hits than what happened here.


They arrested three suspects. Even if it has nothing to do with Holleeder, it will have an effect on Astrid and her sister. Those spy shops do business with a lot of crooks.


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I honestly still have my doubts about the story of Kobus Lorsé murdering his former son-in-law. This was supposedly one of the biggest Dutch crime bosses of all time, at the head of an organized crime syndicate with direct branches in all the major traveller sites in South Holland, North Brabant, Limburg, Drenthe, Utrecht...and active in the international drug trade - successfully so for many years. And he can be directly connected to the rather sloppy murder of his own son-in-law?
This seems out of character for him. I could be mistaken, but something's off.

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I agree it´s a shaky case. It wouldn´t be the first time LE suffers from tunnel vision. Let´s hope Kobus makes it to the appeal, because he has lung cancer.


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They've always had a hard-on for Kobus. He was being described as "the most dangerous guy in the Netherlands" for years and years. Now he's not a man to be fucked with, but it's not like he was putting hits out on everyone and everything.

John Wassink had quite a few nutters running around in his entourage. They chopped up a Belgian frat boy pot dealer just as a show of force. There are probably many others reasons for having Wassink killed instead of a petty fight with the daughter of Kobus.

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