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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #907635
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http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/27/recrute-sur-le-bs-par-la-police

A welfare recipient & bandit was recruited as a double agent to help police trap Quebec/Ontario traffickers, who were running their business in Porsche, Hummer or helicopter.
The police paid the welfare recipient a salary of $ 240,000 to become a civilian undercover agent. This has to the conviction of six members of the Hells Angels network.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #907786
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Originally Posted By: antimafia


I wonder how much muscle his clan has left. There were at least 13 that got arrested with police operation "Estacade". His brother was wounded and depending what police found when they raided his home may face charges for the double murder. It doesn't look too good for them. Furthermore, there hasn't been any retaliation yet for his brother attempted murder.

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I wonder how much muscle his clan has left. There were at least 13 that got arrested with police operation "Estacade". His brother was wounded and depending what police found when they raided his home may face charges for the double murder. It doesn't look too good for them. Furthermore, there hasn't been any retaliation yet for his brother attempted murder.


I figure 13 guys wouldn't be enough to go up against the Rizzuto group if this is the case. Giuseppe de Vito had more guys working for him. Retaliation may take a while. We'll probably see something happening within a month or two.


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #907896
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ÉLIMINER SCOPPA ?

C'est aussi dans le bureau de Me Cavaliere que des leaders de la mafia et un acteur important des gangs de rue discutent de l'idée d'éliminer un autre influent membre de la mafia, Salvatore Scoppa (pas accusé dans Magot-Mastiff), afin de « préserver le contrôle du territoire ».

Nous sommes le 20 août 2015. « Ils n'ont plus confiance en Andrea et Salvatore Scoppa, en JP [que la police identifie comme Gianpietro Tiberio] et se doutent qu'il y a parmi ces trois individus, une taupe », résume la police dans les documents. Le membre de gang de rue affirme être prêt à mettre « une balle dans la poitrine » de Scoppa « pour garder la ville ». Finalement, un autre mafieux s'oppose à son élimination.

Quatre jours après les discussions sur le projet d'assassinat de Scoppa, le membre de gangs de rue est arrêté et accusé de gangstérisme et trafic de stupéfiants. Les leaders de la mafia décident alors de changer de « machines » - cellulaires - et de cesser de se parler. Peine perdue, ils seront arrêtés à leur tour plus tard cette année-là.

Il y a deux semaines, Salvatore Scoppa a échappé à un attentat. Personne n'a encore été arrêté en lien avec cette tentative de meurtre.

Note : Les allégations de l'Escouade régionale mixte de lutte au crime organisé de Montréal dans cette affaire n'ont pas encore subi l'épreuve des tribunaux.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...de-la-mafia.php


Some pretty eye opening statements here...

1 - The table considered eliminating Scoppa brothers
2 - Members at the table did not get along either
3 - Tiberio is lumped with Scoppas

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: eurodave] #907910
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By the far the most interesting article I have read this year about the Montreal Mafia--thanks for posting!

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #907915
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So it looks like law enforcement and their charts after the initial Project MAGOT-MASTIF arrests were correct. Cavaliere was the facilitator of the new relationship between Leonardo & Stefano and the Hells & the Syndicate Street Gang and was pretty much the origin piece that the "leadership table" spreaded out from.


The Scoppas were targeted by I'm assuming Leonardo, Stefano & Gregory Woolley, as a way to cement their grasp on the city, it was called off. The main guys were indicted and arrested, and then we get a full scale war. Now idc, how many people dislike me after this, this article shows I was right to first question the involvement of the Scoppas in all this, when shit first hit the fan. As were a few others.


This also shows that the Scoppas sat on the leadership table or "the alliance" alongside Cavaliere, Rizzuto & Sollecito, Cazzetta & Woolley, but that they may not have been all that well liked. Clearly, they posed a threat to Rizzuto & Sollecito.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #907920
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Le puissant mafieux décrit son comparse qui siège à ses côtés à la table de direction comme « une guimauve » et un homme « pas de couilles ». « Il n'a pas de colonne pour dire aux autres quoi faire », se plaint-il au criminaliste. Me Cavaliere l'ignore, mais son bureau est alors placé sur écoute par la police.

This paragraph above might be mentioning Sollecito, as it's been said numerous times that he lacked true leadership and influence within the milieu.

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Yea, the one about the guy being a "marshmellow" and having "no balls".

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: eurodave] #907933
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Originally Posted By: eurodave
Le puissant mafieux décrit son comparse qui siège à ses côtés à la table de direction comme « une guimauve » et un homme « pas de couilles ». « Il n'a pas de colonne pour dire aux autres quoi faire », se plaint-il au criminaliste. Me Cavaliere l'ignore, mais son bureau est alors placé sur écoute par la police.

This paragraph above might be mentioning Sollecito, as it's been said numerous times that he lacked true leadership and influence within the milieu.


You are probably right about Sollecito, I remember reading a news article in the past, mentioning that other members of the table were not happy about his performance.
This latest article mentions that they were suspecting a mole, it never dawned on them that they were being taped.

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http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/03...s-des-policiers

Incriminating Conversation of a Mafioso against Police Officers
A senior officer was recorded telling his lawyer that he is paying bribes.

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Translation:

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"The police are afraid of the casting in the file. That is why internal affairs were involved. It does not worry me, that's why we pay them ... "
This troubling passage from a conversation two years ago between an influential mafioso and the fallen advocate of the Rizzuto clan, Loris Cavaliere, clearly suggests that SPVM policemen would be at the mercy of organized crime.
Yesterday at the end of the day, Judge André Vincent authorized Le Journal and other media to publish this excerpt from the wiretap conducted during a survey carried out by the regional mixed crime fighting squad (ERM).

Recorded without their knowledge
On the afternoon of February 17, 2015, two Montreal mafiosi - whose identities could not be uncovered - were with Mr. Cavaliere in the latter's office on St. Laurent Boulevard.
They were unaware that the ERM had installed microphones with the blessing of a judge.
One of them mentions that "the heat is brutal" for a month, with reference to the pressure exerted by the police.
A month earlier, Sergeant André Thibodeau, of the SPVM, had been arrested in a case of illegal gambling related to the mafia.
One of the mafioses said he knew him, adding that the Montreal police were "afraid of the casting" in the public square in this case and "that's why internal affairs were involved".
When Mr. Cavaliere asks him if it worries him, the mafioso answers: "No, that's why we pay them."
Francoeur Police Brotherhood
On February 2, the Crown itself requested a stay of proceedings in the case of Sergeant Thibodeau. The day before, Mr. Cavaliere was sentenced to 34 months of penitentiary for gangsterism.
The Sûreté du Québec is interested in these bribes in its investigation into the Division of Internal Affairs of the SPVM, Le Journal reported.
It also supports the statements of Yves Francœur, the president of the Montreal Police Brotherhood, to host Paul Arcand yesterday morning at 98.5 FM.
According to Mr. Francoeur, the director of the SPVM, Philippe Pichet, has known for several months that criminal allegations will weigh on members of his staff.
"Jobs of pigs"
He said he had reported three cases to the chief, including a "close relative" who would be in the mafia, and another "interfered in files to bring charges to court".
But these cases have been entrusted to internal affairs which would have smothered them with "jobs of pigs", making "false allegations to attack the police who had denounced [the fault]".

Still no vote of confidence

Minister Martin Coiteux again refused to give a vote of confidence to Chief Philippe Pichet yesterday.
Questioned in Sept-Îles by journalists about his level of confidence in Director Pichet, the Minister of Public Security reiterated - as he said on Tuesday in Quebec City - that he must "shed light on what is happening To the SPVM "and that it is" premature to pass judgment ".
"The issue of trust is a matter between the population and the police service," he insisted. It is the Montreal population, but also the whole of Quebec because the Montreal Police Service has a role to play that goes well beyond Montreal. It is a leading police force for Quebec. "
The minister also assured that the words of the president of the Montreal Police Brotherhood, Yves Francoeur, accusing Chief Pichet of laxity in the face of the alleged corruption of members of his staff, were transmitted to "the extended team that Will carry out the investigations ".
Position in play?
According to our information, these allegations have created a stir in the minister's office, which is waiting for Mr. Pichet to say "what actions he intends to take to restore the situation, to restore the confidence of Montrealers and Quebeckers towards the SPVM". It was not possible to know whether the post of Director Pichet is now at stake.
Under the Police Act, it would not be easy to show him the way out.
The Act provides that the Minister of Public Safety may recommend the removal of any chief of police to the municipality employing him.
But in the case of the director of the Montreal police, the minister must first "take the advice of the council and the public security commission" of the city, who should then give the chief the " Opportunity to be heard.
And ultimately, the government would make the final decision. At the SPVM, it would be never-seen.
- With the collaboration of Emy-Jane Déry

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #907937
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Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Le puissant mafieux décrit son comparse qui siège à ses côtés à la table de direction comme « une guimauve » et un homme « pas de couilles ». « Il n'a pas de colonne pour dire aux autres quoi faire », se plaint-il au criminaliste. Me Cavaliere l'ignore, mais son bureau est alors placé sur écoute par la police.

This paragraph above might be mentioning Sollecito, as it's been said numerous times that he lacked true leadership and influence within the milieu.


You are probably right about Sollecito, I remember reading a news article in the past, mentioning that other members of the table were not happy about his performance.
This latest article mentions that they were suspecting a mole, it never dawned on them that they were being taped.



Could it be possible then that other members of the table took it upon themselves to take out Sollecito?

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #907942
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Originally Posted By: Ciment


Quebec is such a joke.....hahaha

Guys in Ontario are loving this, operating under the radar.

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Originally Posted By: eurodave
Could it be possible then that other members of the table took it upon themselves to take out Sollecito?


That sounds like a real possibility now.

Could explain a black hit man on Rocco and could spell doom for Stefano as well. Who the hell knows what happens up there anymore lol

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I know there is corruption everywhere but it just seems that Montreal is more infested and yes it is a joke.

For example in the past you had the police translator that was reporting everything to the mafia, several lawyers getting involved in criminal activities, you had the cop that had a list of informants that he wanted to sell for $1 million dollars to the mafia,several cops,mayors and politicians were caught colluding. You have corruption at every level. Then they want the public to report crimes, that is when it becomes a joke.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #907994
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Originally Posted By: Ciment
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Le puissant mafieux décrit son comparse qui siège à ses côtés à la table de direction comme « une guimauve » et un homme « pas de couilles ». « Il n'a pas de colonne pour dire aux autres quoi faire », se plaint-il au criminaliste. Me Cavaliere l'ignore, mais son bureau est alors placé sur écoute par la police.

This paragraph above might be mentioning Sollecito, as it's been said numerous times that he lacked true leadership and influence within the milieu.


You are probably right about Sollecito, I remember reading a news article in the past, mentioning that other members of the table were not happy about his performance.
This latest article mentions that they were suspecting a mole, it never dawned on them that they were being taped.


You're referring to Stefano, not Rocco, right?

It might also be Leonardo Rizzuto, who went from being lawyer to mob boss and therefore may lack credentials in the eyes of the more experienced mafiosi.


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I also wonder if there are ties between the Scoppas and the guys of the meeting in the burned down restaurant Cotroni-Violi et al.

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Originally Posted By: eurodave
Le puissant mafieux décrit son comparse qui siège à ses côtés à la table de direction comme « une guimauve » et un homme « pas de couilles ». « Il n'a pas de colonne pour dire aux autres quoi faire », se plaint-il au criminaliste. Me Cavaliere l'ignore, mais son bureau est alors placé sur écoute par la police.

This paragraph above might be mentioning Sollecito, as it's been said numerous times that he lacked true leadership and influence within the milieu.


You are probably right about Sollecito, I remember reading a news article in the past, mentioning that other members of the table were not happy about his performance.
This latest article mentions that they were suspecting a mole, it never dawned on them that they were being taped.


You're referring to Stefano, not Rocco, right?

It might also be Leonardo Rizzuto, who went from being lawyer to mob boss and therefore may lack credentials in the eyes of the more experienced mafiosi.


Yes, I was referring to Stefano.
In the article below some complained that he wasn't a strong leader. It also mentions the HA & the street gangs had several disputes to settle with the mafia leaders.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/09/30/funerailles-et-cocktails-molotov

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"Montreal police chief remains confident as allegations swirl about officers taking Mafia bribes"

http://bit.ly/2mETSB4

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Some interesting relationships are revealed in Paul Cherry's latest:

"Telemarketing case documents shed light on quick-tempered, violent man"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ed-violent-man/

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http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...utique-downtown

Things may be getting back to normal, more molotovs.

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
Some interesting relationships are revealed in Paul Cherry's latest:

"Telemarketing case documents shed light on quick-tempered, violent man"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ed-violent-man/


Another Magi being hunted now? Go figure.

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http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/03...ents-a-montreal

Looks like the owner got himself into debts and they even set fire to his car previously.

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
Some interesting relationships are revealed in Paul Cherry's latest:

"Telemarketing case documents shed light on quick-tempered, violent man"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ed-violent-man/


Interesting enough behind the scene details paint a bigger picture of one's character or how violent the organized crime really is.

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There's one common link between the last 3 moltovs, they're all arab operated and owned.

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