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Re: Ndrangheta News [Re: m2w] #963075
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Originally Posted by m2w
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There are 12,480 of the stolen assets from the mafia and returned to the community. This is stated by data from the National Agency for Assets seized and confiscated from organized crime (Anbsc), updated from 1980 to early July 2017. The assets consist of 11,604 properties and 876 companies. To these figures are added another 130 thousand units, of which about 17 thousand classified as seized, 52,010 as confiscated and 23,692 recipient goods, or confiscated with final sentence but which are still awaiting destination.


there is a mistake in this article... according to this source the assets still awaiting destination are 17.387, 5.812 in Sicily, 2.465 in Campania, 2.028 in Calabria

https://www.ilsicilia.it/beni-confi...-mancate-seimila-immobili-senza-padroni/


Do you think Riina still has money hidden away that his family taps into or do you think that they brought his family to their knees financially(at least from his finances)

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Is there a specific family within the ndrangheta that is the powerhouse of the organization?

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Originally Posted by Revis_Island
Is there a specific family within the ndrangheta that is the powerhouse of the organization?


In the past it was the Piromallis with the legendary don Mommo Piromalli, who was seen as the boss of the bosses. He was the head of the 'ndrangheta tirrenica. Don Antonio Macrì was the head of 'ndrangheta jonica.
According to the boss Saverio Mammoliti they needed the trust and the approval of three bosses Piromalli, Macrì and Paolo Violi in Canada.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
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Is there a specific family within the ndrangheta that is the powerhouse of the organization?


In the past it was the Piromallis with the legendary don Mommo Piromalli, who was seen as the boss of the bosses. He was the head of the 'ndrangheta tirrenica. Don Antonio Macrì was the head of 'ndrangheta jonica.
According to the boss Saverio Mammoliti they needed the trust and the approval of three bosses Piromalli, Macrì and Paolo Violi in Canada.


What about Pelle? I saw a documentary about him recently. I saw something about Ciccio Pesce too.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
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Is there a specific family within the ndrangheta that is the powerhouse of the organization?


In the past it was the Piromallis with the legendary don Mommo Piromalli, who was seen as the boss of the bosses. He was the head of the 'ndrangheta tirrenica. Don Antonio Macrì was the head of 'ndrangheta jonica.
According to the boss Saverio Mammoliti they needed the trust and the approval of three bosses Piromalli, Macrì and Paolo Violi in Canada.


Was there any ndrangheta clan that was/is as powerful as the Zaza clan, clans in the casalesi, Nuvolettas or Alfieri? From what I’ve seen online, they seemed to be very profitable and very powerful in the 70s, 80s and 90s. I’m sure they still are to this day.

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Is there a specific family within the ndrangheta that is the powerhouse of the organization?


In the past it was the Piromallis with the legendary don Mommo Piromalli, who was seen as the boss of the bosses. He was the head of the 'ndrangheta tirrenica. Don Antonio Macrì was the head of 'ndrangheta jonica.
According to the boss Saverio Mammoliti they needed the trust and the approval of three bosses Piromalli, Macrì and Paolo Violi in Canada.


Was there any ndrangheta clan that was/is as powerful as the Zaza clan, clans in the casalesi, Nuvolettas or Alfieri? From what I’ve seen online, they seemed to be very profitable and very powerful in the 70s, 80s and 90s. I’m sure they still are to this day.


The Piromalli-Molè clan now controls the largest container port in Italy. But back in the 70s they made a fortune with kidnappings the Piromallis kidnapped John Paul Getty for example. The camorra clans were powerful because they controlled the Napels port.

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What you guys think about the San Luca clans?

I often read that they belong to the most powerful clans of Ndrangheta.


Here some Links.


https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Ndrina_La_Maggiore


http://www.wikimafia.it/wiki/index.php?title=Nirta_(%27ndrina)


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The port in Calabria is the largest in Italy? I would’ve guessed Salerno. Not that I would know.

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Originally Posted by Marcow
What you guys think about the San Luca clans?

I often read that they belong to the most powerful clans of Ndrangheta.


Here some Links.


https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Ndrina_La_Maggiore


http://www.wikimafia.it/wiki/index.php?title=Nirta_(%27ndrina)



That’s why I asked about Antonio Pelle. He was the leader of one of the San Luca clans. I haven’t seen any asset seizures done on him so it’s hard to tell exactly what his fortune may have been. The same can be said for any ndrangheta mafiosi. Whereas the Camorra has had a lot of asset and drug seizures done on individual people and clans so you can more easily estimate what the individuals may be worth.

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I think its still the Piromallis, when it comes to money atleast.

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I think its still the Piromallis, when it comes to money atleast.


One of their strengths was they created alliances with other groups like the Crea, Mazzaferro, Pesce and Mammoliti.


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The Australian branches, like Barbaro are powerful..

The Mancuso clan is powerful, the Commisos, the DeStefanos are big masons, The Coluccios, Bellocco and Pesce clans get a piece of every shipment through Gio Tauro. The Crupis are embedded in the Holland flower industry, the Figliomenis are big in Local Calabrian politics...

Domenico Pelle, 26 year old boss just got busted....

The Piromalli- Mole clan I think still has the most wealth.....not sure

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Operation Pollina, was the one Pelle was busted in... I'll find a link....

https://www.insightcrime.org/news/analysis/cocaine-network-european-police/

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more...... you guys have probably seen this already....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...l-60-percent-Australia-s-drug-trade.html

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Twenty-six thousand marijuana plants, clash of the Vibo Valentia clan: the son of the boss Mancuso repents, 18 arrests

Police operation called "Secret Gardens". To control the plantations they used drones. The narcotic had a market value of 20 million

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VIBO VALENTIA. The latest unprecedented trade strategy of the Calabrian clans for drug trafficking exploits drones, web and migrants. It is on the web, in fact, that Emanuele Mancuso, thirty year old son of the boss Pantaleone "The Engineer", sailed in search of the best seeds of hemp, which then bought in huge quantities. Formally everything is regular, because the seeds can be bought for collecting. It is a pity, however, that the young scion of the Mancuso thigh, who recently started collaborating with the magistrates, used them to grow 26,000 marijuana plants in huge plantations scattered throughout the Vibonese.

The investigators of the Police Headquarters of Vibo Valentia, led by Andrea Grassi, discovered that with the coordination of the Catanzaro DDA directed by the Chief Prosecutor Nicola Gratteri, they reconstructed the entire production chain of cannabis, managing to identify all the characters involved. Together with Mancuso, 17 people (8 in prison, 10 at home) have been involved in handcuffs. They have been accused in various ways of having been part of the supply chain. Another 21 are investigated on the loose. The 18 sites of a company specialized in the sale of Indian hemp seeds, scattered between Alessandria, Brescia, Caltanissetta, Catanzaro, Chieti, Genoa, Imperia, Lecce, Milan, Naples, Salerno and Savona are searched and seized.

"The investigation was almost defined and closed - explains the Chief Prosecutor Gratteri - when the stroke of luck arrived, the repentance of Emanuele Mancuso". About a month ago, the engineer's son, already in jail for extortion, asked to speak with the magistrates and since then he would have filled verbal reports. An absolute novelty for the powerful and up to now impenetrable family of 'ndrangheta of Limbadi, which has never counted with a collaborator in its ranks. "For this reason - say the investigators - Emanuele Mancuso's collaboration could be precious".

Exuberant character, became known not only for the criminal enterprises but also for the angry phone calls with which he used to storm the local newspapers to contest this or that article, Mancuso was born and raised within the clan. And he is aware of the structure, balance and roles within the numerous quarrelsome family of 'ndrangheta, long divided between those who invoke a low-profile and low-profile policy that does not disturb business and those who do not disdain striking actions, such as the car bomb that on 9 April killed Matteo Vinci.

Deposits that Mancuso jr knows perfectly well, as well as knowing about the lucrative business of the clan, among the pioneers of international drug trafficking and today unscrupulous in the policies of reinvestment of the billions earned by transporting coca through the oceans. Even Emanuele had chosen to engage in the traditional "family business", however, cutting out a substantially autonomous business sector in the field of light drugs, carried out with an "innovative" method.

"He's a specialist - says Gratteri - I've never seen one more experienced than him in marijuana cultivation. He looks like an agronomist, he also knows all the techniques of indoor cultivation ". And he had managed to invent a real "industrial" production chain of grass, taking advantage - says Gratteri - "of the hypocrisies permitted by the current law". The seeds were bought on-line on the portal hempatia.com, now blocked, specialized in the sale "for collectors", and connected to a distribution network of over 18 stores scattered throughout Italy.

It is from there - investigators have discovered - that the seeds were then used in six gigantic hidden fields between Nicotera, Ioppolo and Capistrano, where marijuana plants were grown capable of producing over 2 million doses of "grass". Foreign farm workers were involved in the care, management and irrigation of the plantations, many of them coming from the San Ferdinando tent.

This is a novelty for the Calabrian clans, who generally have always entrusted the supervision of "cultivations" to their own low laborers. A task that is not particularly prestigious, but criminally risky, for this - explain the investigators - entrusted to laborers without rights and sometimes even without documents. Mancuso and his people, though not physically present, watched over their precious crops, thanks to some drones that flew to control both workers and crops.
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Leandro Greco is said to have ties to this region....

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Then you have the Ursinos, who look to be tight with the Gambinos, I suspect they are active in Toronto...

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About the Barbaro's they control the Lombardy 'ndrangheta.
Rocco ‘U sparitu — a nickname he shares with his brother Giuseppe, also known as Charly, who has been in hiding for 14 years — was considered the boss, and according to Catanzariti is a member of the Vangelo (“Gospel”), a high-ranking group within the ‘ndrangheta. Rocco was arrested in 2017.


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Are any of these clans at war over vendettas?

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Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
Then you have the Ursinos, who look to be tight with the Gambinos, I suspect they are active in Toronto...


In New York you also have the Aquino-Scali group said to be pretty dangerous.


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Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
The Australian branches, like Barbaro are powerful..

The Mancuso clan is powerful, the Commisos, the DeStefanos are big masons, The Coluccios, Bellocco and Pesce clans get a piece of every shipment through Gio Tauro. The Crupis are embedded in the Holland flower industry, the Figliomenis are big in Local Calabrian politics...

Domenico Pelle, 26 year old boss just got busted....

The Piromalli- Mole clan I think still has the most wealth.....not sure



Is this the same Barbaro clan whos sons has been murdered by bikers or somehting like that? They dont seem to powerful

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Originally Posted by doggystyle
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The Australian branches, like Barbaro are powerful..

The Mancuso clan is powerful, the Commisos, the DeStefanos are big masons, The Coluccios, Bellocco and Pesce clans get a piece of every shipment through Gio Tauro. The Crupis are embedded in the Holland flower industry, the Figliomenis are big in Local Calabrian politics...

Domenico Pelle, 26 year old boss just got busted....

The Piromalli- Mole clan I think still has the most wealth.....not sure



Is this the same Barbaro clan whos sons has been murdered by bikers or somehting like that? They dont seem to powerful


They are cousins, but indeed several members have been killed. The most important member was Domenico Barbaro who later settled in Milan called 'Mico l'Australiano and his sons Salvatore and Saverio.


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Originally Posted by Revis_Island
Are any of these clans at war over vendettas?


There are tensions/fights all the time, but the last real war was probably the San Luca feud. After the Duisburg massacre in 2007 it has been pretty quiet, however their presence has almost quadrupled in Germany over the past decade.

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Originally Posted by Marcow
What you guys think about the San Luca clans?

I often read that they belong to the most powerful clans of Ndrangheta.


Here some Links.


https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Ndrina_La_Maggiore


http://www.wikimafia.it/wiki/index.php?title=Nirta_(%27ndrina)



in san luca there are 3 strong ndrangheta clans nirta-strangio, pelle-vottari and nirta-scalzone, all with international connection, that's the highest concentration in a town only
san luca is the most powerful in the ndrangheta

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An intimidating escalation and threats addressed to two pizzerias in the province of Reggio Emilia.
Today the carabinieri arrested Mario, Cosimo and Michele Amato : they are the sons of Francesco, considered one of the organizers of an association of 'ndrangheta in the rich province of the central north region and sentenced to 19 years imprisonment in the Aemilia maxi process.
According to the investigators of the District Anti - Mafia Directorate of Bologna, together with his brother Alfredo he would have been " constantly in touch " with the other alleged associates of the Crotone crime family of the Grande Aracri.


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Are any of these clans at war over vendettas?


There are tensions/fights all the time, but the last real war was probably the San Luca feud. After the Duisburg massacre in 2007 it has been pretty quiet, however their presence has almost quadrupled in Germany over the past decade.


I saw a doc about that feud. Very gruesome.

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Are any of these clans at war over vendettas?


There are tensions/fights all the time, but the last real war was probably the San Luca feud. After the Duisburg massacre in 2007 it has been pretty quiet, however their presence has almost quadrupled in Germany over the past decade.


I saw a doc about that feud. Very gruesome.


Speaking of that.

'Ndrangheta, massacre of Duisburg: confirmed life imprisonment for Sebastiano Nirta

https://reggio.gazzettadelsud.it/ar...ta-d4a146f4-21d7-44f6-b5c1-1f59a9c335b3/


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