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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #905905
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Two of them were tortured and cut into pieces, isn't that more cartel style?

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I agree,they are sending a message to the others.

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Originally Posted By: Ciment


I think the Quebec media know more details than the Toronto Police Service does.

http://m.insidetoronto.com/news-story/70...oronto-shooting

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The murder victim was investigated in Project Cancun a number of years ago.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toro...article33852275

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #905931
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Another cocaine, drug enterprise halted at the arrest of one of their leaders. So the Canadian authorities, behind the scenes, were already considering the Scoppas as those whom would reap the benefits of the incarcerations of the old Rizzuto-Sollecito leadership? Interesting. Wasn't he arrested as well during the earlier November seizure as well? I'm guessing this arrest was the usual arrest authorities make before indictments are officially handed down.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #905941
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Here we go, more violence to come.

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I have a feeling that these arrests may change the balance of power in Montreal and will prolong tensions between the two or more warring parties.If both Scoppa brothers end up in jail, who will take the relief ? Do they have enough manpower to continue this feud ? I know there is a third brother but do not know how involved he is. This maybe a game chnager.

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It seems as though peace talks were in the works prior to his arrest and I'm sure he knew it was coming. The balance of power may stabilize for the time being as multiple leaders are in jail or it may continue to get worse.

Although I agree that organized crime should be monitered and fought by law enforcement, there should also be a way of keeping the streets relatively calm.

It's been nothing but unrest and murders for the last decade.

Shouldn't they be more focused on the bikers? Didn't they de-throne the mafia?

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: eurodave] #905944
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Originally Posted By: eurodave
Two of them were tortured and cut into pieces, isn't that more cartel style?


El Tiempo newspaper reported that the body of Quebec City native Frederic Lavoie, 31, was found on May 12, 2014 in the town of Sabaneta, 300 km northwest of the capital, Bogota. His remains were found on a street inside four garbage bags that were leaking blood. He was among more than 100 people sought by provincial police in a massive anti-drug operation launched in 2012 against bikers, the Mafia and their associates.
Timoleon Psiharis, 29, was tortured, doused with acid and beaten to death in Greece in 2012.

It is amazing to what length they would go to kill these guys. Columbia, Greece and Toronto CA. Someone should make a movie about them.

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Two of them were tortured and cut into pieces, isn't that more cartel style?


El Tiempo newspaper reported that the body of Quebec City native Frederic Lavoie, 31, was found on May 12, 2014 in the town of Sabaneta, 300 km northwest of the capital, Bogota. His remains were found on a street inside four garbage bags that were leaking blood. He was among more than 100 people sought by provincial police in a massive anti-drug operation launched in 2012 against bikers, the Mafia and their associates.
Timoleon Psiharis, 29, was tortured, doused with acid and beaten to death in Greece in 2012.

It is amazing to what length they would go to kill these guys. Columbia, Greece and Toronto CA. Someone should make a movie about them.


I'm wondering how or why Rabih Al Khalil, one of the four suspects in the murder of John Raposo in Toronto in June 2012, avoided being killed while he was in Greece, as Al Khalil was there (still there?) after Psiharis was murdered--Al Khalil was finally captured in Greece in February 2013 because he faced numerous charges in Canada.

Mihale Leventis, the murdered Lavoie, Psiharis, and Al Khalil were considered four important ringleaders in Project Loquace. Leventis's brother Anastasios was killed this past Monday. So Mihale and Al Khalil are alive now only because they are in prison?

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Do you think the Alfredo Patriacca murder had something to do with this crew ? Wasn't he there when Raposo got killed ?

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They finally got a recent picture of him. They have been using the same old picture for over a decade.

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http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02...-de-penitencier

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...de-coupable.php

Rizzuto's lawyer pleads guilty.

Translation:
Long-time lawyer of the Rizzuto clan, Loris Cavaliere, received 34 months of incarceration after pleading guilty to charges of gangsterism and illegal possession of a gun on Wednesday afternoon at the courthouse from Montreal.
The 62-year-old man was arrested on November 19, 2015 during a police roundup targeting alleged leaders of the Montreal mafia, Hells Angels and street gangs, as well as several alleged traffickers grouped in an "alliance" The control of the narcotics market.
After lengthy negotiations, the prosecution and the defense agreed on the terms of the penitentiary sentence they asked Judge Pierre Labelle to impose on Mr. Cavaliere.
A suggestion that the magistrate considered "reasonable". The charge of gangsterism means that the criminal will have to serve at least half of his sentence before he hopes for parole.
Knowing that he would go straight to the prison, the fallen lawyer appeared in court wearing a sweater and gray cotton sweat pants. With a beard, he also brought with him personal belongings in an olive green bag.
The charge of conspiracy to the cocaine trafficking against him was withdrawn as a result of these negotiations between the parties.

Mafia Consigliere
The criminalist notably played the role of consigliere (counselor) Rizzuto clan since the abduction of Paolo Renda, the brother in-law of the deceased godfather Vito Rizzuto, missing since May 2010.
He served as a "moderator of potential conflicts at the mafia leadership table and facilitator with the top managers since regular meetings with members of the alliance were held at his office," said Chief Inspector Patrick Bélanger , Of the Sûreté du Québec, during a press conference following this anti-drug operation.
In order to substantiate their evidence during the investigation, the police exceptionally obtained permission from the courts to install cameras and microphones in the lawyer's office for approximately one year without the knowledge of the lawyer, Believed that it was immune to electronic wiretaps in downtown Montreal.
Shortly before the criminal was handcuffed, a Molotov cocktail was launched through the door of the offices of his firm Cavaliere et Associés, located on Saint-Laurent Boulevard on September 29, 2015.
At the time of his arrest, the officers also seized at his office a semi-automatic pistol of Walther P99 brand and 9 mm caliber, whose serial number had been altered.
Mr. Cavaliere was granted provisional release after spending two weeks behind bars in Rivière-des-Prairies Prison for a bond totaling $ 300,000.
He also had to give up the practice of law until further notice, another exceptional measure imposed at the insistence of the Crown, in addition to being assigned to his residence 24 hours a day.
In 2004, Loris Cavaliere defended Vito Rizzuto during the extradition proceedings he faced in connection with his role in the murders of three American mafiosi committed in 1981 in New York State. The godfather could not escape American justice and had to spend six years behind bars in this case before his death from lung cancer in December 2013.
Cavaliere also represented Nicolo Rizzuto, Vito's father and patriarch of the Rizzuto clan, following his arrest in Operation Colosseum by the RCMP in 2006. The octogenarian was assassinated in his residence by a shooter, November 2010.

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Originally Posted By: Ciment
Do you think the Alfredo Patriacca murder had something to do with this crew ? Wasn't he there when Raposo got killed ?


Patriarca was present; even got hit by a stray bullet. But I have no idea whether he had any dealings with either the suspects in Raposo's murder or in the Project Loquace bust (Al Khalil is a suspect in both).

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Mafia Consigliere
The criminalist notably played the role of consigliere (counselor) Rizzuto clan since the abduction of Paolo Renda, the brother in-law of the deceased godfather Vito Rizzuto, missing since May 2010.
He served as a "moderator of potential conflicts at the mafia leadership table and facilitator with the top managers since regular meetings with members of the alliance were held at his office," said Chief Inspector Patrick Bélanger , Of the Sûreté du Québec, during a press conference following this anti-drug operation.
In order to substantiate their evidence during the investigation, the police exceptionally obtained permission from the courts to install cameras and microphones in the lawyer's office for approximately one year without the knowledge of the lawyer, Believed that it was immune to electronic wiretaps in downtown Montreal.
Shortly before the criminal was handcuffed, a Molotov cocktail was launched through the door of the offices of his firm Cavaliere et Associés, located on Saint-Laurent Boulevard on September 29, 2015.
At the time of his arrest, the officers also seized at his office a semi-automatic pistol of Walther P99 brand and 9 mm caliber, whose serial number had been altered.
Mr. Cavaliere was granted provisional release after spending two weeks behind bars in Rivière-des-Prairies Prison for a bond totaling $ 300,000.
He also had to give up the practice of law until further notice, another exceptional measure imposed at the insistence of the Crown, in addition to being assigned to his residence 24 hours a day.
In 2004, Loris Cavaliere defended Vito Rizzuto during the extradition proceedings he faced in connection with his role in the murders of three American mafiosi committed in 1981 in New York State. The godfather could not escape American justice and had to spend six years behind bars in this case before his death from lung cancer in December 2013.
Cavaliere also represented Nicolo Rizzuto, Vito's father and patriarch of the Rizzuto clan, following his arrest in Operation Colosseum by the RCMP in 2006. The octogenarian was assassinated in his residence by a shooter, November 2010.


Interesting. This just gets better and better.

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Knew he had to be playing some more in depth role within the criminal aspect of things, once his law offices started being firebombed. Interesting to hear that he's supposedly been acting in the "consigliere" position since Paolo Renda's kidnapping, that was years ago. So Cavaliere could've possibly been schooling both Leonardo & Stefano Sollecito on how to run things, I think it's certainly possible.

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Was paolo renda a made bonanno? Probaly made by galante. He probaly told vitos father in 76 77 bring all your guys down nyc and had a big ceromony cause they killed violi what 78? Wonder wheres his body and you guys probaly have a idea who where the actual killers sal tye iron guy or controni and violis kids?

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Joe Renda declared dead. He was the nephew of Gerlando Sciascia.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...eclare-mort.php

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Originally Posted By: eurodave
Joe Renda declared dead. He was the nephew of Gerlando Sciascia.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...eclare-mort.php


Renda's disappearance and likely murder show how there were people with ancestry from the Rizzutos' hometown, like Renda, who did not swear allegiance to the "Sixth Family" but, rather, to New York. He in particular appears to have betrayed Agostino Cun trera, to whom he had once been close.

Renda was born in New York and was a made Bonanno, likely made there. Before moving to Montreal and before Sciascia's murder in 1999, Renda would have come into contact with Sal Montagna and others in Montagna and Sciascia's circle, e.g., the aging mobster Giuseppe Arcuri, a made Bonanno and also from the Rizzutos' hometown, who died in 2001. Once in Montreal, Renda acted as its representative when he attended his uncle Gerlando's funeral in New York in 1999. Maybe Renda also acted as a go-between?

It took me close to four years to finally determine that Giuseppe Arcuri of New York is the brother of Domenico Arcuri Sr., the father of Domenico Arcuri Jr. and Antonino. Had I done some genealogical research shortly after Arcuri Sr.'s death in Florida in October 2012, I would have discovered that he and Giuseppe Arcuri had the same parents (Domenico and Filippa Arcuri); that Giuseppe and the parents had lived in the same household in New York during a certain period; that Giuseppe, his parents, and Gerlando had applied for their U.S. Social Security Number during a period of roughly three years (between 1955 and 1958); and that there is the possibility that Domenico Arcuri Sr. at one time was also living in New York with his parents and older brother Giuseppe before Domenico and his parents--as well as Domenico's other sibling(s)--moved to Montreal.

Apart from Gerlando's immigration matters, I don't know many of the reasons that the Arcuri clan and Sciascia clan had some members stay in New York, some move to Quebec, and some go back and forth. Gerlando's daughter, Donna, lives in the US with her husband and young son (Luciano); Gerlando's son, Joseph, lives in the Montreal area with his wife, and their son (Gerlando) is attending college in Poughkeepsie, New York--this grandson of Gerlando's very likely lives with his grandmother, Gerlando's wife, who lives in Yonkers.

Joseph Mark Sciascia, Gerlando'son, has at least one important business dealing with Domenico Arcuri Jr., who in turn still has an important business dealing with Raynald Desjardins (despite the friendship between the two that then turned into hatred).

It seems that for some of the guys in Montreal, whether they were made or not, being a made Bonanno meant something. Maybe that's why a non-Sicilian like Moreno Gallo aligned himself with Montagna?

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Interesting analysis anti.....

It would almost seem that the New York related or made men within the Montreal mob decided to take over the family, guys like Renda, Arcuri bros, Montagna and Lo Presti really pushed against the Rizzuto inner circle, one Sicilian faction vs another, from similar villages.

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
It seems that for some of the guys in Montreal, whether they were made or not, being a made Bonanno meant something. Maybe that's why a non-Sicilian like Moreno Gallo aligned himself with Montagna?


Ofcourse, they were following Mafia protocol. I've being saying that is what I (firmly) believed for years. Isn't it interesting that almost all of the known Bonanno affiliates (excluding the Rizzuto-Renda-[BadWord] family members) sided with Montagna, who was the Bonanno emissary. I think that even Joe Di Maulo stayed neutral, or at least pretended to, during Montagna's fued with Desjardins. In addition, the people with Desjardins did not have a Bonanno affiliation, which is why Montagna wasn't able to bring them in, and in effect, wasn't able to become the uncontested leader of the Montreal Mafia.


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Di Maulo might have pretended to be neutral, but I seriously doubt he truly stayed out of the Desjardins/Montagna feud. Of course we'll probably never truly know.

I think his "inaction" is what got him killed though. He didn't defend the Rizzuto's, like you said either acted neutral or pretended to (I think the latter) and more than likely helped Desjardins go along and help him with his attempt to take over. Otherwise I think Desjardins would have been dealt with pretty quick without Di Maulo's backing. But who really knows anymore? lol

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Translation:
Twenty-four hours after the operation that led to the arrest of seven individuals, including an influential member of the Montreal mafia, policemen struck again Thursday morning in Laval.

This was the second phase of the Estacade project, which aimed to dismantle a criminal organization that had become "very active in Laval and Montreal in the importation and trafficking of cocaine".

In the morning, four suspects were pinned in Laval soil, bringing the count to 11 individuals arrested in this important investigation.

Chadi Melki, 42, Charles Chouchani, 60, Hovhannes Yeghoyian, 29, and Mark Shirin, 42, are scheduled to appear on Thursday afternoon at the Montreal Courthouse on charges related to drug trafficking.

A man is still being sought in connection with this investigation, namely Louis Manuel Lopes, 57, of Montreal. According to the authorities, Lopes could currently be located outside the country

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What I find strange with the Montreal Bonanno made group led by Montagna(dead),which was comprised of Arcuri brothers(exiled)/ JoeRenda(dead)/Lopresti(dead)/Pietrantonio(wounded)/Gallo(dead), wanted to overtake the Rizzuto clan and did not have the muscle to do it.
Correct me if I am wrong but I did not see or read in the news, any retaliation from that group. They received a lot of incoming
but did not mount any substantial attacks.

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The influential clan leader of the mafia Andrew Scoppa, arrested Wednesday for trafficking cocaine, was particularly betrayed by a microphone that the police had installed in the car with his driver.LaPresse learned.

According to our information, several conversations between Scoppa and his driver Nicola Valiente, also co-accused in this case, have been caught on tape by the police since at least the beginning of last fall.

Andrew Scoppa and his alleged accomplices were subjected to numerous spin-offs by police officers who reportedly went to the Tower of Canadians more than once, where 65 kg of cocaine was seized by Squad Investigators Regional joint venture (ERM) of Laval, on October 26th.

The investigation, dubbed Estacade, began in June 2014. It focused on Andrew Scoppa, considered by the police to be a major supplier of cocaine to other criminal organizations in Montreal.

Scoppa, 52, and three of his alleged accomplices, Valiente, 40, Fazio Malatesta, 48, and Maxime Hébert, 24, must return to court today for their formal release investigation.

Remember that Andrew Scoppa faces four conspiracy charges, possession of cocaine for trafficking, trafficking in cocaine and receiving a sum of money in excess of $ 5,000. Arrested later than others on Wednesday, Valiente only appeared yesterday afternoon and was accused of conspiracy and trafficking of cocaine.

OTHER ARRESTS
Yesterday, the investigators of the ERM Laval of the Sûreté du Québec initiated phase two of Operation Estacade and arrested four other individuals suspected of being part of a drug trafficking cell operating in Laval and linked to the organization Of Andrew Scoppa. The suspects, Chadi Melki, 42, Charles Chouchani, 60, Hovhannes Yeghoyian, 29, and Mark Shirin, 42, were charged at the Laval Courthouse.

These last arrests increase to 12 the number of individuals apprehended in the investigation so far. At the time of this writing, a 13 th suspect, Luis Manuel Lopez, 57, of Montreal, was still being sought. The police believe it could be outside the country. The home of Lopez had been the subject of a search in recent months.

During the investigation, police seized more than 113 kg of cocaine, nearly $ 1 million in silver, 1 kg of MDMA, 280 lb of cannabis, 50,000 methamphetamine tablets, 15 kg of procaine, three weapons Prohibited weapons and a restricted weapon, according to a report unveiled Wednesday.

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15kilos of procaine so that rumor is true they probaly use it to repress the bricks. Probaly the stuff that looks shinny then the next day ya nose is clogged like a sinus infection.

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Feb.3,2017


Loris Cavaliere : a clarification about the mafia function of "consigliere"

Some medias have reported in recent days that Loris Cavaliere, a well-known Montreal lawyer specializing in criminal law, and still a member of the Barreau du Québec at the time of this writing (2017-02-03), pleaded guilty to charges of gangsterism brought against him. The former lawyer was arrested in November 2015, as part of Operation Magot-Mastif, conducted by the Regional Mixed Squad of Montreal (ERM). Cavaliere was accused of committing acts of gangsterism for the benefit of a criminal organization, namely the Rizzuto organization. These are, of course, serious accusations, especially since he was a lawyer.

Cavaliere was released under a heavy bail with, furthermore, that he was prohibited from practicing the profession of lawyer, pending the conclusion of the procedures against him. On February 1st, 2017, he pleaded guilty to the charges and was sentenced to 34 months, half of the sentence to be served before he could be eligible for parole.

There have been reports that Cavaliere allegedly acted as a "consigliere" or "house counsel" for the Rizzuto family in recent years, this being based on Crown evidence that Cavaliere promoted the interests of the Rizzuto family in the pursuit of its criminal activities. Cavaliere has not challenge the facts since he admitted his guilt.

However, I would like to draw attention to the attribution of the "consigliere" label on the deposed lawyer. This qualifier, from my point of view, is ambiguous because it implies that he is a member of Cosa Nostra. In the mafia, it is not necessary to be a lawyer to hold the position of the "consigliere", as in the mythical film "The Godfather" in which actor Robert Duvall played the role of Tom Hagen, the loyal lawyer who advised the boss of clan, Vito Corleone, and later his son, Michael. There stops the fiction of Hollywood.

In Cosa Nostra the rank of "consigliere" is not a fiction. It really exists, as it has been demonstrated many times in the past by numerous testimonies of former members of Cosa Nostra who became repentant. The individual who holds this key position is a career criminal who has a long history of mafia affiliations. The consigliere is appointed by the family boss and ranks third in the hierarchy of a mafia family, hence its importance and influence.

The consigliere plays a key role in the destiny and development of the criminal policies of the family. He is the first advisor to the boss and he also acts as an ambassador to the other families of Cosa Nostra. He is also the one who will preside over the election of a new leader of family to replace the former one who had deceased or who was killed, as it was the case for John Gotti, who took over the head of the Gambino family in New York, after murdering his boss, Paul Castellano, in december 1985.

But to hold such a rank, one must first and foremost be a “made” member of the mafia, that is to say, to have undergone through an elaborate initiation rite and to have proved not only his allegiance to the boss, but to have an eloquent "états de service", criminally speaking, to gain the family boss’s trust. Because the "consigliere" exerts a great deal of influence on the boss. He can convince him, for example, to recommend a promotion or a demotion, and even the assassination of a member of the family. That's saying it all!

Had Loris Cavaliere reached up that level? Was he truly a member of the mafia that would deserve him to be called a "consigliere"?

I do not think so. Instead, he merely acted as a facilitator, for example by allowing the use of his lawyers' premises for criminals to continue their discussions, knowing that they would fall under the cover of solicitor-client privilege And thus, out of reach judicially by wiretap warrants. It was a waste of time, as there were countless microphones that police had installed as part of Operation Magot-Mastif strategies. He was accused of transmitting messages from incarcerated members of the organization to other members on the street, and vice versa. Finally, the lawyer, who had access to sensible intelligence gathered from ongoing police investigations, circulated them among members of the Rizzuto organization. The acts alleged against the lawyer fall within the purview of section 467.12 (1) of the Criminal Code: Offense for the benefit of a criminal organization.

Perhaps the principal interested will one day venture to provide explanations about the role he really played in the last years of his controversial practice. But this explanation might never come out, since the lawyer, although not a made member of the mafia, nevertheless remains subject to the infamous law of silence, omertà.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #906074
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What I find strange with the Montreal Bonanno made group led by Montagna(dead),which was comprised of Arcuri brothers(exiled)/ JoeRenda(dead)/Lopresti(dead)/Pietrantonio(wounded)/Gallo(dead), wanted to overtake the Rizzuto clan and did not have the muscle to do it.
Correct me if I am wrong but I did not see or read in the news, any retaliation from that group. They received a lot of incoming
but did not mount any substantial attacks.


Even though the first shots came from them they did seemingly lack street muscle. I do think that the murder of Colapelle was a retaliation and Renaud also speculated about it. Colapelle was the one who had spied on Montagna on behalf of Desjardins. Also, after Montagna's murder it was reported that Desjardins stayed inside his home for most of the day until his arrest a few weeks later. So even if remnants of Montagna's group were looking to retaliate, it would've been difficult to get to him if not impossible. Even in Montreal they don't blow up a house yet, that only happens in Philly. And for what it's worth, the media did state that the police believed that Desjardins' life was in danger after Montagna was killed.


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