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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #902649
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No they weren't made into 'ndrangheta, but you have to look at the relations between cosa nostra and 'ndrangheta. They are all Uomini d'Onore so it's not that black and white. Look at the wedding anniversary of Paolo C untrera.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Hollander] #902650
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Sorry, Hollander I may have missed the point your making. Eurodave or I never said there was no relationship or ties between the Cosa Nostra and the Ndrangheta.

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Originally Posted By: Ciment
Sorry, Hollander I may have missed the point your making. Eurodave or I never said there was no relationship or ties between the Cosa Nostra and the Ndrangheta.


I know, it was aimed at the media who are often talking about a 'ndrangheta take-over or Sicilians vs Calabrians. Which is bs IMO.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #902657
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The town of Hamilton is rough, but they stay often under the radar.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #902716
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Merry Christmas & Buon Natale to everyone !

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #902729
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Originally Posted By: Ciment

Merry Christmas & Buon Natale to everyone !


Joyeux Noël !


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Hollander] #902828
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Deux tentatives d’incendies criminels dans des restaurants

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #902829
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #902832
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I'm a bit perplexed by these two incidents as the establishments are kind of hipster joints...upper middle class and very French

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #902847
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Tomorrow in Grumo Appula, in the province of Bari, they will hold a mass in memory of Rocco Sollecito, shot dead a few months ago in Montreal.



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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #902852
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I read on her that vito rizzuto was playing golf before he died with that guy joe dimaulos brother. Did he take vitos side over his own brothers. Last question out of all the montreal bonannos, sal vitale said there was 20around the year 2000. Are they all dead? By murder or old age. Surposely frank lino said some politician was a made guy in there crew ive never heard he died. And finally so its a deffinit no any of the cotroni sons were inducted by the father or rizzuto?

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Hollander] #902860
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Originally Posted By: Hollander
Tomorrow in Grumo Appula, in the province of Bari, they will hold a mass in memory of Rocco Sollecito, shot dead a few months ago in Montreal.




"Italian priest sparks scandal after inviting public to mass for slain Canada mafia boss"

http://www.thelocal.it/20161227/uproar-as-priest-invites-public-to-mass-for-slain-canada-mafia-boss

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #902864
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Public church mass in memory of slain Montreal Mafia boss Rocco Sollecito canceled – Mass was to be held in Italy

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"Church mass for murdered Canadian mafioso Rocco Sollecito kiboshed by Catholic authorities"

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/ca...lic-authorities

"Mafia boss Mass nixed"

http://www.ansa.it/english/news/2016/12/...c5b66405cb.html

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #902893
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"Planned mass in Italy for reputed Montreal mobster is scrapped after outcry"

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/News/12597029/story.html

This last part of the Canadian Press article seems to contain erroneous information:

A retired Montreal police investigator familiar with the Mafia told The Canadian Press Sollecito was Vito Rizzuto’s “right-hand man” and was blamed by some in the Rizzuto clan for not doing enough to protect the family when Vito was in prison.

Sollecito reportedly had been making money on his own and had fallen out with the Rizzutos.

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
"Planned mass in Italy for reputed Montreal mobster is scrapped after outcry"

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/News/12597029/story.html

This last part of the Canadian Press article seems to contain erroneous information:

A retired Montreal police investigator familiar with the Mafia told The Canadian Press Sollecito was Vito Rizzuto’s “right-hand man” and was blamed by some in the Rizzuto clan for not doing enough to protect the family when Vito was in prison.

Sollecito reportedly had been making money on his own and had fallen out with the Rizzutos.


Someone seems to be confused with either Di Maulo or Arcadi. Note that it was rumored on the old RD forum that Arcadi had fallen out of favor because he had been making deals on his own. Then again, people can easily spread false rumors on the internet.

Whatever the case, what this article states about Sollecito doesn't make sense.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #902900
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Arcadis falling out amongst some of the Sicilian members of the Montreal Mafia was attributed to his closeness with the Calabrians. At least thats whats stated in Business Or Blood.

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"Planned mass in Italy for reputed Montreal mobster is scrapped after outcry"

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/News/12597029/story.html

This last part of the Canadian Press article seems to contain erroneous information:

A retired Montreal police investigator familiar with the Mafia told The Canadian Press Sollecito was Vito Rizzuto’s “right-hand man” and was blamed by some in the Rizzuto clan for not doing enough to protect the family when Vito was in prison.

Sollecito reportedly had been making money on his own and had fallen out with the Rizzutos.


Someone seems to be confused with either Di Maulo or Arcadi. Note that it was rumored on the old RD forum that Arcadi had fallen out of favor because he had been making deals on his own. Then again, people can easily spread false rumors on the internet.

Whatever the case, what this article states about Sollecito doesn't make sense.


I agree with you Sonny Black it makes no sense, if that were the case V.Rizzuto would of taken him out when he got released from prison. Furthermore, after Vito's death, Sollecito's son would not have been allowed to sit at the round table and assume a leader's role.

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It's pretty interesting that the Sollecito family has major business interests in Italy.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #902908
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Before Rizzuto died , he too had a lot of business interests in Italy . So not that surprising.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #902924
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If it's true that Solid Gold became Sollecito, then I would list the rival spots as:

Beaches...former de vito colapelle hangout

Linguini

The other places are all tied to the Rizzuto clan somehow

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I have to agree, no way did Rocco Sollecito fall out of favor with Vito. It just doesn't make sense plus the fact him and Vito were very close for a very long time. I would definitely agree that if that was true for anyone it would be Arcadi over Sollecito and we still don't really know what side Frank is on.

Same for Stefano becoming a leading figure too, no way would Vito trust the family after his death if Rocco had turned on him.

And Sinatra is right, Vito did have some business dealings in Italy/Sicily so it only makes sense that what seems to be his best friend would have some dealings there too.

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Yves Lavigne says the territorial push of the Hells Angels into the Maritimes is an attempt to ensure they control the drug market from coast to coast.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/hells-angels-make-return-to-maritimes-1.3913710


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #903024
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"The reign of Rizzuto and Sicilians is over in Montreal" - journalist Daniel Renaud

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Great article Cement!

Daniel seems to always bring great knowledge and perspective.

I wish he would of mentioned those 2-3 leaders lol!

I have a feeling Scoppa is one of them

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Yea, so do I . But I'm just repeating myself at this point. Anybody mind posting a translation of that article?

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"The reign of the Rizzuto and the Sicilians is over ...
"The reign of Rizzuto and Sicilians is over in Montreal" - journalist Daniel Renaud
Published by Jacques Thériault for 98.5 fm on Wednesday December 28, 2016 at 19h34.

Funeral of Vito Rizzuto on December 30, 2013 / PC - Graham Hughes, archive

(98.5 FM) - Since the beginning of the year 2016, the Montreal Police Department (SPVM) has counted 13 arson attacks, don 12 since September, linked to clan wars within the Mafia.

Journalist Daniel Renaud, a criminal affairs specialist with the daily La Presse, spoke with Marie-Claude Lavallée on Le Québec now on Wednesday afternoon.

"It is clear that this expresses a renewed tensions within the mafia," said Daniel Renaud. The mafia has been shaken by internal conflicts for several years, and it continues, that's what it means. "

Since the death of the Sicilian godfather Vito Rizzuto three years ago, confusion seems to prevail among the various clans for the conquest of power. According to Daniel Renaud, none of the leaders of clans currently stands out to be identified as the real leader of the criminal organization.

"We have people who are leaders of influential or important clans who struggle," he says. The SPVM evaluates that it is a fight with two clans. They are opponents of the Rizzuto, to show to the Rizzuto, but also to the Sicilians that their reign is finished. "

On the other hand, Renaud believes that there could be more than two clans in the war within the Mafia. The SPVM would lose a bit of conjecture, since the names of two or three chiefs are currently circulating

"One thing that everyone agrees is that the rule of the Rizzuto and Sicilians is over in Montreal," says Daniel Renaud. It is the end of an era; The Sollecito family who had taken over from Rizzoto no longer had much strength. It is a predominantly Calabrian Italian organized crime that will eventually settle in Montreal. "

Since several chiefs of clans are subject to police surveillance, the situation remains unclear as to which leader is likely to emerge.

According to Daniel Renaud, whoever takes control will have no choice but to deal with other criminal organizations in Quebec, including the Hell's Angels; It was Vito Rizzuto's way of doing things.

"He will not have a choice," says Renaud. The officials of the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) told us recently; The biggest criminal organization now, is the Hell's Angels. The future head of the Mafia will have no choice but to continue to do business with them in order to remain in office. "


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Thanks Hollander.

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