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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #896553
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-gang-sales-1.3804199

Interesting article, armoured cars sold to an associate of Rizzuto Family.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: eurodave] #896556
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Originally Posted By: eurodave
For some odd reason, I have a feeling the Scoppa brother's are making some moves. Rarely do you hear about them, but they wield a lot of power.


Might be the case. Andrea Scoppa was said to be on good terms with Vito Rizzuto, but times have changed. They've been around for a long time and are very active in the drug trade and because of that they may be looking for a larger slize of the pie if not the whole pie itself. Interestingly, Andrea Scoppa was listed as one of the individuals Stefano Sollecito was not allowed to meet with during his parole.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #896562
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Seems to be a revenge killing that could be related back to Vito Rizzuto's return in 2012.


I think you're right. I also think that a lot of the murders during certain periods of the war are revenge killings. Which could mean more retaliatory attacks, a recent example of which might be the two attacks on Solid Gold, which was Moreno Gallo's old stomping grounds; other future retaliatory attacks, of course, would be more murders that have yet to be avenged.


Are you suggesting that the attacks on Solid Gold were retaliatory attacks by the old Rizzuto group for recent murders or do I misinterpret?

It seems like we have as much clue on who's behind this as we did in 2010. Apparantly people are bringing up old theories like Paolo Violi's sons trying to take over, which I'm extremely sceptic about. I think a more viable theory is that Arcadi is making a powerplay with backing from Ontario. A more frightning theory is that Giordano, Arcadi and Sollecito were on the same side and are being killed off by another group. It feels too convenient thinking about people loyal to Desjardins and De Vito. It also seems like the old Di Maulo-Cotroni group is still on good terms with the 'Sicillians' because Carmine Vanelli was seen at Sollecito's funeral, but that may not mean much.


Two pages back I posted a link to Daniel Renaud's October 4 article about the Solid Gold attacks. Here's the story link in case you haven't read the article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-criminels.php

According to the article, a source revealed that after Gallo's murder, Solid Gold passed into Stefano Sollecito's hands. The article also mentions that this information has not been corroborated by police. If the source's information is accurate, maybe one or more people close to Gallo were behind the attacks for a number of reasons, e.g., anger over Gallo's murder, resentment arising from losing the establishment.

If the information isn't accurate, the attacks may have been committed by people who were upset with Gallo's having sided with Montagna.

Toward the end of the article is the suggestion that because of the Solid Gold attacks, law enforcement will be looking into whether and how the murders of Rocco Sollecito and Moreno Gallo are related.


Yeah, I read that article (I rarely miss any) but I forgot about it stating that it had transitioned to Sollecito. It seems to me that Rocco Sollecito's murder could rather be linked to Giordano than Gallo, but who knows. Gallo had a small army of his own I believe. I still wonder where Mucci stood in all of this. Based on tapes of the Consenza club it looked like that Mucci was with Gallo back then. But based on information from Renaud, Mucci had supposedly distanced himself from Gallo during the take-over attempt because he chose to be neutral. Do you happen to have more information of Mucci's relationship with Gallo? I know that Mucci was in charge of a crew who where distributing coke, but I think that he was Gallo's second-in-command. Also, I ignored your advice and read your post in its entirety. wink


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #896592
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Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-gang-sales-1.3804199

Interesting article, armoured cars sold to an associate of Rizzuto Family.


Tony Mucci has been in armored vehicles for a while now, at least ever since Vito got out he was.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #896600
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Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: baldo] #896604
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Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Sonny_Black] #896605
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh


what happened to it?

it was still active and then a board error 2 months ago and counting just never got fixed?

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Blackjack2121] #896607
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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
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Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh


what happened to it?

it was still active and then a board error 2 months ago and counting just never got fixed?


It seems like the owner has pulled out the plug.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Blackjack2121] #896615
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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
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Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh


what happened to it?

it was still active and then a board error 2 months ago and counting just never got fixed?


That's a long story but, in a nutshell, the administrator and moderator over there gave the boot to too many of their most consistent and long-term posters. Slowly the RD forum became a ghost town with only a few posters checking in regularly. Last I saw, a different format of the board can still be accessed elsewhere but it's still basically dead. And the powers that be there have themselves to thank for it.


Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #896618
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Power trip over there at the realdeal, too many a knowledgeable people were booted for not following the party line, plus "a few people" brought legal action against the site for discrimination (LE members) or so the rumor is. Those folks that were in power over there, some of them are across the street now, have been for over a year or so.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #896622
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That sucks it went down. Right when I got vouched for and allowed into the forum it went down basically. Like the next day. I never got the RealDeal experience lol

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: dixiemafia] #896628
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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-gang-sales-1.3804199

Interesting article, armoured cars sold to an associate of Rizzuto Family.


Tony Mucci has been in armored vehicles for a while now, at least ever since Vito got out he was.


Yes, the article makes reference to 2006 when a Rizzuto associate bought them. Mucci most probably got from the same company.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Sonny_Black] #896631
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh


I agree the old existing OC family has split up in various factions, all fighting for dominance and with all the betrayals it is very difficult to know who is on what side. At one point the Rizzuto rivals were ahead then then Rizzuto made a comeback; now the rivals have the upper hand for now. It remains to be seen if the Rizzuto's will survive this second round of attacks.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #896635
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: IvyLeague] #896638
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: baldo
Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)


On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread. shhh


what happened to it?

it was still active and then a board error 2 months ago and counting just never got fixed?


That's a long story but, in a nutshell, the administrator and moderator over there gave the boot to too many of their most consistent and long-term posters. Slowly the RD forum became a ghost town with only a few posters checking in regularly. Last I saw, a different format of the board can still be accessed elsewhere but it's still basically dead. And the powers that be there have themselves to thank for it.


Nah I know what happened with people getting banned...

I was still posting right up until the end

there was no announcement or anything...there was just a board error and it never got fixed and i guess they just gave up on it

it happened about 2 months before this last time too, it was down for like 2 weeks, but then it got fixed....then out of nowhere the same thing happened.

people were still posting in the days leading up to the board error

weird

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #896653
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Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-gang-sales-1.3804199

Interesting article, armoured cars sold to an associate of Rizzuto Family.


Remember hearing when rizzuto got out he purchased like a fully armored s500 Mercedes or something . Smart move I would do the same thing. It's so wild up there if I was in the mix I would have an armored car and I wouldn't leave the house without a vest and a pistol close by... I know magi also had a armoured car and seemed to always be wearing a vest when he went anywhere .. and also had a fucking convoy of security...

Vests are easy to get and inexpensive.. and not that uncomfortable to wear under your clothes if your life is really on the line. Yeah it's not going to do shit off you catch a head shot or get hit with like a 762 round (some vests will) but still better than nothing

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I alluded to the Scoppa thing months ago.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: dsbaloo] #896724
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Originally Posted By: dsbaloo
Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-gang-sales-1.3804199

Interesting article, armoured cars sold to an associate of Rizzuto Family.


Remember hearing when rizzuto got out he purchased like a fully armored s500 Mercedes or something . Smart move I would do the same thing. It's so wild up there if I was in the mix I would have an armored car and I wouldn't leave the house without a vest and a pistol close by... I know magi also had a armoured car and seemed to always be wearing a vest when he went anywhere .. and also had a fucking convoy of security...

Vests are easy to get and inexpensive.. and not that uncomfortable to wear under your clothes if your life is really on the line. Yeah it's not going to do shit off you catch a head shot or get hit with like a 762 round (some vests will) but still better than nothing


That's who I meant in my post. Not sure why I typed Mucci, but I was thinking Magi. I know they had a story when his "convoy" was rolling and some guy jumped out of the woods with a rifle in his hands and jumped back in the woods and took off. I'm sure it was a sign that he was still being hunted. I have no doubt he still had something to do with Nick Jr's death. I would guarantee if there is a hit list his name is one of the ones still on it.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: dixiemafia] #896761
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The Magi brothers have probably still ties to the people around Desjardins.


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I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol

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Are those guys still based in Mexico, as far you know?

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Rizzuto coming back was like Savastano on the TV show..


In fact, the whole war up there is probably being fought in a similar fashion.

It's no wonder we can't get a full grasp on it, I doubt the participants have a full grasp on it...

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Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


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I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


I think eurodave was the first who said they had a big influence.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Hollander] #896783
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Originally Posted By: Hollander
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I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


I think eurodave was the first who said they had a big influence.


I had head of their name and influence in the early 2000's and obviously, they are a force to be recknoned with. Just to inform those of you who that are not familiar with the city, the Scoppa's operated mainly on Gallo's old turf, basically Little Italy and the center of the city. I'm not quite sure what relationship they had though.

I've also come across an interesting article in Italian about certain facts.

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Out of the game the managers of Alvaro, New York if they are taken the Ursino. Including contacts with the South Americans. The earthquakes are reflected in Canada, where the hierarchies crumble. And with them the pax mafia. The 80 criminals Italian emigrants there had divided the business between Toronto and Montreal. Sicilians to the Rizzuto clan drugs; the Calabrian arrived from Siderno, gambling, gambling and usury. Map designed it in 2010 Italians investigators who worked on the "Crime" maxi investigation, which for the first time identified the leaders of the 'Ndrangheta and is still valid. Three years ago, the leader of the Rizzuto, Vito, is dying of cancer. In the following months, coinciding with the rise of the Ursino in the North American dial, four of the six members of the "Council" of the Rizzuto clan are killed. The last to fall was Rocco Sollecito. A few weeks ago, in Montreal, he was about to end in a coffin Marco Pizzi, 46, cocaine importer for Rizzuto, escaped the ambush of the hitmen who had buffered and flanked with a car. They were masked and armed. "The Calabrian attacked the old" powers.

http://www.grandangoloagrigento.it/la-gu...-dei-calabresi/

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The only way Toronto can influence things in Montreal if there's indeed the alliance between the 'calabrian faction' of the Rizzuto clan and the 'Ndrangheta in Ontario maybe backed by the Hells Angels.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Sonny_Black] #896787
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
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I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-policiers.php

For the record the Scoppa's were mentioned in various articles dating back over a decade. The one I posted above dates Oct. 14 2014. Daniel Renaud has been writing about them for years. This pre-dates claims by a certain individual on these posts, that said he called it months ago.
Eurodave is correct he was an associate of Gallo at one time, they do carry weight. They were neutral at first when the war began but now considered rivals.
They are Calabrian. Some of his associates were/are DeVito (Calabrian), Piccirilli(Calabrian),Mirarchi(Calabrian).They all have close ties with the bikers MC (Cazzetta). Most of them made trips to Ontario. If you connect the dots you get the big picture.

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Originally Posted By: Ciment
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I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol


Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.


http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-policiers.php

For the record the Scoppa's were mentioned in various articles dating back over a decade. The one I posted above dates Oct. 14 2014. Daniel Renaud has been writing about them for years. This pre-dates claims by a certain individual on these posts, that said he called it months ago.
Eurodave is correct he was an associate of Gallo at one time, they do carry weight. They were neutral at first when the war began but now considered rivals.
They are Calabrian. Some of his associates were/are DeVito (Calabrian), Piccirilli(Calabrian),Mirarchi(Calabrian).They all have close ties with the bikers MC (Cazzetta). Most of them made trips to Ontario. If you connect the dots you get the big picture.


I was talking about the Scoppas being pinpointed by journalists as those suspected of being behind the recent turmoil. I'm aware of them being mentioned in older articles. Could you post the article that has identified them as rivals of the Rizzuto faction? I must've missed it.


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Originally Posted By: Hollander
The only way Toronto can influence things in Montreal if there's is indeed the alliance between the 'calabrian faction' of the Rizzuto clan and the 'Ndrangheta in Ontario maybe backed by the Hells Angels.


It is of my opinion that the pie is already divided in Montreal but the war is not over yet. The days of one family having it all is over. That is why we are seeing this conflict being carried out for years.It would be wise to share but some are too stubborn to understand.
If it is true that Ontario Calabrian clans are behind all this then you will have some of these clans or ndrine establish themselves in Montreal. That is a pattern of how they operate in other countries or cities. According to past news articles the Caruana/[BadWord] clan seem to have a good working relationship with the Calabrian clans in Ontario. If hostilities end in Montreal you may have the same relationship taking place in Montreal.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Sonny_Black] #896790
10/21/16 05:19 PM
10/21/16 05:19 PM
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I missed that in all the chaos, but last month they throwed molotov cocktails at John & Dino, a company that used to be owned by Agostino Cun trera, who was gunned down in front of the very same company in 2010.

Last edited by Hollander; 10/21/16 05:19 PM.

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