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what if trumps wins the presidency? #882391
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what was unthinkable 6 mos ago could happen. what would he do

about the middle east situation, about immigration reform,

has he ever spelled out his policies? he talks, but proposes no solutions.
any one have any ideas about his positions?

he never was a representative, a senator, we have no voting record to go by.

are we going to buy a pig in a poke? we realy don't even know the guy.





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Then we will once again be respected throughout the world!

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #882400
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It will be a good thing if only because it's not Hillary. Lesser of the two evils anyway.

With Hillary we WILL get a shit sandwich.

With Trump we MAY get a shit sandwich. Then again we MAY get egg salad.

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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #882403
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^^LOL Very profound Ivy!

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: IvyLeague] #882428
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague

With Hillary we WILL get a shit sandwich.


We will dive further into the pits of hell.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #882445
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That's a good question. It's a question everyone needs to ask themselves if they vote.

Trump in control of the military power of the United States can be a bit of a frightening thought. But on the other hand, it probably is also frightening to the enemies of the United States also, and that's not a bad thing.

Imagining Hillary Clinton at the center of the current configuration of Russian aggression, Russian/Syrian alliance, North Korean ambition, the passive belligerence of China, not to mention terroristic threats and the open Southern border, is a sobering thought.

Binnie, you asked what would happen if Trump became President. One thing that would probably happen for sure is that deportations would rise. The President of the United States doesn't need permission from Congress to enforce the law.


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alfa, thank you for your thoughtful input, however the point being, we are clueless about this guy...

he has never actualy spelled out any of his ideas about running the country, what really worries me is whos behind this guy?

with bush it was neo-cons who got us in middle east wars,

what do the people behind trump have in mind ?



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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #882463
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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
alfa, thank you for your thoughtful input, however the point being, we are clueless about this guy...

he has never actualy spelled out any of his ideas about running the country, what really worries me is whos behind this guy?

with bush it was neo-cons who got us in middle east wars,

what do the people behind trump have in mind ?


He would definitely blunder Binnie, the question is blunder about what exactly.

It's obvious Trump is ignorant about the world. The comments he made to a crowd about Joe Paterno showed his deep ignorance and that he lives in a bubble, all the more hard to believe when you consider how rich he is.

Let's construct a red phone scenario for Trump. Let's say he was president instead of Barack Obama in the face of Syria's Bashir Al Assad. What would Trump have done? It's possible he would have exercised President authority to launch attacks up to 60 days in length in the interest of national security. Such a decision has great ramifications because with the Syrian government destroyed and Syria descending into Chaos, only Congress can approve the troop commitment to rebuild that country and restore order ("If you break it, you own it" - Colin Powel)

It's also possible that Trump means what he says about not being into nation building, and that like an isolationist he would tell the Syrians that they are on their own with their chemical weapons wielding despot of a President. It's a difficult one.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #882464
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Quote:
what do the people behind trump have in mind ?


Forgive me for not addressing your question.

I really don't think anyone is behind Trump. They are trying to get behind him to manipulate. For instance, Trump was very much against flooding the country with foreign workers on visas. Now special interests have tried to get him to soften his position on that. Knowing that illegal aliens would leave a labor shortage behind were Trump to deport many of them, there seems to be a plan to replace the illegal aliens with H1b and H2b Visas.


"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
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Trump was already bringing in foreign workers on visas to work in his Florida golf resorts, and has been doing it for years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us/pol...-club.html?_r=0

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-exclusive-idUSKCN0Q62RQ20150802

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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
Trump was already bringing in foreign workers on visas to work in his Florida golf resorts, and has been doing it for years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us/pol...-club.html?_r=0

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-exclusive-idUSKCN0Q62RQ20150802


Exactly, how can he say now that he cares about H1b abuses when he profited from it. But then again using that logic, why would he even run for president being worth 10 billion dollars? Where is the necessity? Maybe he has regrets?


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Half the stuff him and Sanders etc promise will never happen in reality, Iv'e come to realize that Presidents and Prime Ministers don't actually have that much power (relatively). How would this stuff get through congress? Banning Muslims and building a wall costing millions of money?

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Originally Posted By: NickyScarfo
Half the stuff him and Sanders etc promise will never happen in reality, Iv'e come to realize that Presidents and Prime Ministers don't actually have that much power (relatively). How would this stuff get through congress? Banning Muslims and building a wall costing millions of money?


That's about right. The President mostly is just a check on Congress, to keep them from passing crazy laws with his veto pen, just in case the majority is wrong. He "presides" over Congress. Other than that, he's the top policeman in the country who must enforce laws. He has some military powers, but like I said earlier, those powers are mostly related to national defense and are sometimes limited in scope of time (e.g., being able to attack a country in the interest of national defense so long as the attack is within 60 days or less). If he can't prove that he deployed the military for good reason after such an attack, the ramifications could be very serious.

After what Bush pulled in 2003, Barack Obama was very wise to consult Congress before hitting Syria. Congress red lighted him. Russia and Putin then moved into the vacuum, thus making Bashir Al Assad nearly indestructible. That is on Congress. That was their decision.


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Sanders wants us to spend even more money then we have been spending. He had no chance to be elected.

Hillary and Cruz will say anything to be elected. Fuck them.

Thrumps main issues put things in place to get the economy to grow. He could do that. Help the vets he could do that. Destroy Isis he could do that. Since we are locked into Obama care he might be able to do something to make it less expensive.

Keep radicals off the Supreme Court.

Audit the fed. When that happens people will know exactly how fucked up our economy is.
Build the wall or do something to reduce the illegals from flooding the country.

That's enough for me.


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I heard Cruz will announce his entire Cabernet tomorrow and who his kids will eventually marry.


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Originally Posted By: Footreads
Keep radicals off the Supreme Court.


That's a big one. So much of the damage Obama has done has been who he's put on the court. If Hillary becomes president, the Supreme Court will be lost to liberal radical activists for years to come.


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that's not good, too many liberals on the supreme court could ruin this nation.



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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
that's not good, too many liberals on the supreme court could ruin this nation.


One is too many because almost by definition a liberal justice is going to see the Constitution as a "living breathing" document, which is how they've always justified projecting their own views into it, rather than the conservative constructionalist approach that goes by what the Constitution actually says.


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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
Trump was already bringing in foreign workers on visas to work in his Florida golf resorts, and has been doing it for years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us/pol...-club.html?_r=0

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-exclusive-idUSKCN0Q62RQ20150802


That's a good pull,F1.

I believe this to be Trump's quote from March 03, 2016 -
regarding comments he made about h1 program during a debate.


"Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. I remain totally committed to eliminating rampant, widespread H-1B abuse and ending outrageous practices such as those that occurred at Disney in Florida when Americans were forced to train their foreign replacements. I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions."



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We can hypothesize about Trump all day but one thing is certain to me at least; if he wins, he will surround himself with very smart/ experienced people. At the end of the day, thats what its all about.
I do think he will follow through with his immigration policies but to what extent is anyones guess. I cannot fathom him sending 12 million people home. perhaps convicted felons or those who were here less than 5 years?
I would keep all non violent offenders who have a valid tax id and who have been paying taxes, thats what we want in an immigrant. I do believe he will tighten the borders and make our military stronger. His personality alone will make Putin at least pause. I think he will be good for the country but Hilary will be construed as weak to the world in my opinion.

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Now Trump is saying that Ted Cruz's father was in on the JFK assassination. I wonder if any Trump supporters will recognize that he has jumped the shark.

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Thrump won Indiana.


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Thrump says anything that the national enquirer says.


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I'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.


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Trump will make America great again!

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Cruz has left the building!

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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
Now Trump is saying that Ted Cruz's father was in on the JFK assassination. I wonder if any Trump supporters will recognize that he has jumped the shark.


I swear this guys made of Teflon, no matter what he says, nothing sticks to him.
he can become as outrageous as he wants, no one calls him on anything, god knows what he will say if he wins the presidency.



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John Kasich now drops out. Trump is the last GOP candidate standing. He also gets an uncomfortable endorsement from Bobby Jindal.

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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
John Kasich now drops out. Trump is the last GOP candidate standing. He also gets an uncomfortable endorsement from Bobby Jindal.


what about these uncomfortable endorsements. does this mean he doesn't have the support he thinks he does, or is the rank, and file of the republican party going to march in step with him when he gets the nomination

because if they don't, he will lose and take many representatives, and senators with him. house, senate go to democrats.



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House and senate go to the Democrates. There is no Democratic Party anymore.

There are all socialists to one degree or another. Only guys who are afraid would vote for them.

This is going to be an interesting November.


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