GangsterBB.NET



Who's Online Now
4 registered members (OutsideMike, Galante81, Woody, 1 invisible), 115 guests, and 39 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box
Site Links
>Help Page
>More Smilies
>GBB on Facebook
>Gina's Artroom
>Job Saver

>Godfather Website
>Scarface Website
>Mario Puzo Website

>MobPosters.com
>Puzo Amazon Store
>Ebay: Godfather
>Ebay: Scarface

>Live Chatroom
A word from our sponsors...



Active Member Birthdays
No birthdays today
Newest Members
Bronxbomber, ScarfINC50, Harmonica91, Mikefrommass, Drews3007
9711 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
Irishman12 56,429
DE NIRO 44,694
J Geoff 30,934
pizzaboy 23,236
SC 22,902
Mignon 19,065
Don Cardi 18,229
Turnbull 18,174
Sicilian Babe 17,276
plawrence 15,058
Beth E 14,900
Forum Statistics
Forums20
Topics37,736
Posts953,553
Members9,711
Most Online663
May 27th, 2012
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 3 of 96 1 2 3 4 5 95 96
Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867113
11/19/15 10:06 AM
11/19/15 10:06 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
A
antimafia Offline OP
Underboss
antimafia  Offline OP
A
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867114
11/19/15 10:11 AM
11/19/15 10:11 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
A
antimafia Offline OP
Underboss
antimafia  Offline OP
A
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867117
11/19/15 10:38 AM
11/19/15 10:38 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
A
antimafia Offline OP
Underboss
antimafia  Offline OP
A
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
Originally Posted By: antimafia
I think Daniel Renaud was the first journalist to break the story about this latest police operation, his story being published at 6:49 am EST. He has since updated the article.

Link:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...me-organise.php


In another update to Renaud's article, it has been revealed that Mom Boucher, the former head of the Hells Angels Quebec, was arrested in his prison cell this morning.

The reason? Suspicion that he participated in a plot to murder Raynald Desjardins, who of course is also in jail.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867130
11/19/15 02:10 PM
11/19/15 02:10 PM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
A
antimafia Offline OP
Underboss
antimafia  Offline OP
A
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
Paul Cherry has more details arising from today's law-enforcement operation dubbed "Project MAGOT and MASTIFF" ("opération MAGOT et MASTIFF" in French).

Leonardo Rizzuto seems to be identified as a co-leader of the Montreal Mafia. Mom Boucher and his daughter appear to have been in communication with Syndicates leader Gregory Woolley, a one-time bodyguard for Boucher, about the plot to kill Desjardins.

Link to Cherry's article:

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...d-mafia-players

Link to a chart published by the Sûreté du Québec (SQ):

http://www.sq.gouv.qc.ca/actualites/2015/2015-11-19_001_magot.pdf

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867132
11/19/15 02:17 PM
11/19/15 02:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
S
SinatraClub Offline
Underboss
SinatraClub  Offline
S
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
Holy crap, I knew it. Never imagined him being this deeply involved but wow. This seems to be a big bust. I know it's still early Anti, and nothing is clear or certain yet, but would you rank this bust, from what you know, alongside Operation COLISEE?


Judging from the recent article posted, it seems like with the arrest of Cavaliere, at least from what that article is assuming, that they may have had a wiretap in his office and these guys got caught up in a Stanfa-esque investigation. I mean where else would they get information aside from top informants, that Mom Boucher was involved in the plot, along with the mafia to murder Desjardins in prison? Wiretaps, there are other outlets, I suppose. But I'm just going with what I think is the most obvious....This is getting interesting.

Last edited by SinatraClub; 11/19/15 02:22 PM.
Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: SinatraClub] #867133
11/19/15 02:21 PM
11/19/15 02:21 PM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
A
antimafia Offline OP
Underboss
antimafia  Offline OP
A
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Holy crap, I knew it. Never imagined him being this deeply involved but wow. This seems to be a big bust. I know it's still early Anti, and nothing is clear or certain yet, but would you rank this bust, from what you know, alongside Operation COLISEE?


Let's wait and see how much evidence was amassed and what the quality of it is.

Link to another English-language article:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-raids-drugs-organized-crime-1.3325812

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867136
11/19/15 02:47 PM
11/19/15 02:47 PM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
A
antimafia Offline OP
Underboss
antimafia  Offline OP
A
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867137
11/19/15 02:56 PM
11/19/15 02:56 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
D
dixiemafia Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
dixiemafia  Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
D
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
I officially eat my words Sinatra about Leonardo and you was right. Thanks again anti for keeping us updated.

Wow, Leonardo went way back in time to try and kill Raynald. I figured he took the plea to stay behind bars and to think he was safe, but obviously not. I imagine if the word is out someone will be ready to shank his ass.

I also think this proves that it is VERY plausible that the Rizzuto's were behind the prison poisoning of De Vito as well.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867150
11/19/15 03:55 PM
11/19/15 03:55 PM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,938
P
pmac Offline
pmac  Offline
P

Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,938
so what charges is vito son chrged with? the plot to kill ray d.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867151
11/19/15 03:57 PM
11/19/15 03:57 PM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,938
P
pmac Offline
pmac  Offline
P

Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,938
just read a article by vice that guy mom the hells angle gets released from prison in 2022 shit the laws up there are so laxed. he would be on death row down here.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867153
11/19/15 03:59 PM
11/19/15 03:59 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
D
dixiemafia Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
dixiemafia  Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
D
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
No pmac, Mom Boucher will never get out. He's serving life now.

Yes Leonardo was charged with conspiracy to murder, drug conspiracy and probably money laundering and gangsterism. Too early to know what kind of case they have though.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867161
11/19/15 05:55 PM
11/19/15 05:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
S
SinatraClub Offline
Underboss
SinatraClub  Offline
S
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
Yea, I definitely think the Rizzuto's were behind De Vito's death. Even before this, I believed that. I'm waiting to see if there's any news on wiretaps, because if there is, I'd bet money that a lot of them come from the lawyers office, which could mean that the stuff on those tapes can write a book. lol

And Dix, lol, I really didn't mean to brag, man, it's just nice to be right sometimes. lol

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: SinatraClub] #867167
11/19/15 07:46 PM
11/19/15 07:46 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 376
In a wide open city
Tony_Pro Offline
Capo
Tony_Pro  Offline
Capo
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 376
In a wide open city
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Yea, I definitely think the Rizzuto's were behind De Vito's death. Even before this, I believed that. I'm waiting to see if there's any news on wiretaps, because if there is, I'd bet money that a lot of them come from the lawyers office, which could mean that the stuff on those tapes can write a book. lol

And Dix, lol, I really didn't mean to brag, man, it's just nice to be right sometimes. lol


Do they have attorney-client priviledge in Canada like we do in the states? If they were meeting thinking they were in the clear and the government is going to somehow get that waved on a anti-mafia measure, well damn things are going to get wild.


This life of ours, this is a wonderful life. If you can get through life like this, hey, thats great. But it's very, very unpredictable. There are so many ways you can screw it up.-Paul Castellano (he would know)

"I'm not talking about Italians, I'm talking about criminals."-Joe Valachi
Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Tony_Pro] #867175
11/19/15 09:29 PM
11/19/15 09:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
S
SinatraClub Offline
Underboss
SinatraClub  Offline
S
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
Originally Posted By: Tony_Pro
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Yea, I definitely think the Rizzuto's were behind De Vito's death. Even before this, I believed that. I'm waiting to see if there's any news on wiretaps, because if there is, I'd bet money that a lot of them come from the lawyers office, which could mean that the stuff on those tapes can write a book. lol

And Dix, lol, I really didn't mean to brag, man, it's just nice to be right sometimes. lol


Do they have attorney-client priviledge in Canada like we do in the states? If they were meeting thinking they were in the clear and the government is going to somehow get that waved on a anti-mafia measure, well damn things are going to get wild.



And article posted in this thread suggests that they may have been what happened. That they met under the assumption of the "attorney-client" priviledge thing.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867217
11/20/15 01:14 PM
11/20/15 01:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
S
SinatraClub Offline
Underboss
SinatraClub  Offline
S
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
Okay, new updates:

- This investigation was started in January 2013, a month after Vito Rizzuto died.

- Both Leonardo & Stefano are said by law enforcement to be the ones who took over the family after Vito died.

- Leonardo Rizzuto & Stefano Sollecito are alleged to have been the suppliers of narcotics to the Hells Angels and the other street gangs in Montreal.

- Gregory Wooley is alleged to be by law enforcement, as Nicaso always said, the link between the Montreal Mafia & The Hells Angels, as well as the street gangs.

- Cazzetta is accused and charged with distilling the illegal proceeds and collecting street taxes for the milieu.

- As I suspected yesterday, Lloris Cavaliere's arrest is in relation to him allowing his law office to be the safe haven of this triumvirate of Organized Crime. His office was used as a meeting spot to plan and plot criminal acts, which he actively participated in. Cavaliere is also suspected of being a long time member of the Rizzuto Family.


Mannnn, if it turns out they had that place tapped...


Oh, and I have yet to learn of Leonardo's or Stefano's or the Montreal Mafia period, being involved in the Desjardin's murder plot. Thats not to say they weren't involved, but none of the articles have mentioned that yet. An article by the National Post had an article and it stated that Mom Boucher, through an female messenger, plotted Desjardins along with Gregory Wooley. Messages were exchanged through the female, from Boucher, who then left the prison visits, back to the streets of Montreal and delivered said messages to Wooley. In the articles terms, Wooley then "executed" those messages. That could mean anything from using his own people and telling no one outside of those involved, or he could've recruited the help of the Montreal Mafia. I suspect more about that will be revealed later on, obviously.

Last edited by SinatraClub; 11/20/15 01:23 PM.
Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867230
11/20/15 02:59 PM
11/20/15 02:59 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
D
dixiemafia Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
dixiemafia  Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
D
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
Sinatra you have every right to brag lol As for De Vito I agree, once I heard it was poisoning I thought Vito had something to do with it. I think this kind of confirms it as I imagine Boucher has a lot of sway in prison.

You're right in that Leonardo/Stefano is not listed in the murder plot so far but I seriously doubt Boucher would go after Desjardins unless he had their backing. We have to remember the HA's and the Rizzuto's have always had a history together ever since the war between them and the Rock Machine was stopped. I just can't see them going after Desjardins "alone". It's also been thought that them and the gangs have been hitters for the Rizzuto's as well so it's plausible.

Sinatra have you ever seen the Rizzuto tapes? Montreal Gazette has them online where Vito and Leonardo was on tape talking but it wasn't anything incriminating though. Surely they had Cavaliere's office tapped.

As for lawyer/client privilege, yes they have it in Canada. I think that is the main reason Leonardo became a lawyer to get that right and to keep the RCMP off of them. I know police can tap a lawyer's office, but I think they have to prove they are not meeting for a consult or something. I've seen it done in the states before but I vaguely remember how it was done.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867243
11/20/15 05:10 PM
11/20/15 05:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
S
SinatraClub Offline
Underboss
SinatraClub  Offline
S
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
Dixie, they can only wire the lawyers office if they know that they can prove that criminal acts are being conspired within the place. I saw this mentioned in the Stanfa book, but basically they would've had to have had a previous wiretap somewhere else which proved to them that Cavaliere's law office was being used in that manner, only then can they wire the place up. That's if it's like our lawyer/client privilege law here in the states.

You are certainly right about Leonardo/Stefano's possible involvement in the plot to murder Desjardins. I've only really learned that Boucher was supposed to be persona non grata with the Hell's. So if that's true, which I don't really know now since the reportings of his involvement with Wooley. But if it's true, he would've needed some extra muscle, the Rizzuto clan could've supplied that. They're involvement is clearly possible and I wouldn't doubt it at all.

And I think I've heard those tapes. Are one of them of Vito talking to some guy about his car being stolen and him telling the guy he got the car back in another call?

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867245
11/20/15 06:17 PM
11/20/15 06:17 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
D
dixiemafia Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
dixiemafia  Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
D
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
Yea the Stanfa case is where I remember it from. Thanks to reminding me. I'm pretty sure their law is almost the same to ours, we will see for sure.

I think the HA's put up a public face that Boucher is not involved but like you said with him and Wooley talking he definitely still has some standing on the street.

Yep you've heard the tapes then. The one you are talking about I forget who it was, but someone stole his Escalade and he called Vito to get it back and of course Vito got it back.....lol. Don't blame the guy

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: dixiemafia] #867261
11/20/15 09:00 PM
11/20/15 09:00 PM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
A
antimafia Offline OP
Underboss
antimafia  Offline OP
A
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
Link to Éric Thibault's article "Déjà des aspirants pour mener la mafia et les Hells":

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/11/20/deja-des-aspirants-pour-mener-la-mafia-et-les-hells

He speculates about who are seen as successors to those who were arrested in the latest law-enforcement operations. Sources tell him that Francesco Arcadi and Lorenzo Giordano, who are both still in jail, are seen as potential leaders of the Montreal Mafia.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867265
11/20/15 10:21 PM
11/20/15 10:21 PM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,928
Magnolia State (662)
B
BlackFamily Offline
Underboss
BlackFamily  Offline
B
Underboss
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,928
Magnolia State (662)
@ SinatraClub

Great posting on the update. Where does the 67 Gang fits in the picture? After their leader got killed its rarely any update on them.


If you think you are too small to make a difference, you haven't spend the night with a mosquito.
- African Proverb
Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867310
11/21/15 12:37 PM
11/21/15 12:37 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
D
dixiemafia Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
dixiemafia  Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
D
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
I still say the jury is still out on whether Frank Arcadi is killed or not. I just don't see Rizzuto/Sollecito giving up power to Arcadi after his disastrous run as boss the first go around. Plus, does Arcadi show up thinking he's the man?

Still many questions up there and not enough answers right now.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867315
11/21/15 01:14 PM
11/21/15 01:14 PM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 919
Hamilton
Scalish Offline
Underboss
Scalish  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 919
Hamilton
Arcadi is so arrogant that he will come out thinking he is the man. That has never changed he also thought he was the man.

They should place him as boss when he comes out and allow him to be the fall guy while they really run it behind the scenes, he is so into the power he would go for it. And from what I heard Arcadi is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867435
11/22/15 02:00 PM
11/22/15 02:00 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
D
dixiemafia Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
dixiemafia  Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
D
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
I'm not sure everyone would follow suit though, that's the biggest question. Many will remember what things were like under him when Vito was away. So it will be interesting for sure.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #867478
11/22/15 11:39 PM
11/22/15 11:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
S
SinatraClub Offline
Underboss
SinatraClub  Offline
S
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
Indeed, Dixie. According to Antonio Nicaso, he had lost some trust among the Sicilian bunch because of his Calabrian origin and being too chummy at times with the guys from Ontario & Toronto. Of course this is all speculation, but after seeing much of what Nicaso once wrote in his book and articles actually play out this last past week or so, it's interesting to think about and to see how this situation plays out. The only thing is, who will be around from the younger administration that was just locked up, that will have the proper backing to go against Arcadi & possibly Giordano. One interesting name that hasn't popped up in these sweeps yet, and we have to find out if he will be at all, is Nicola Spagnolo. Alleged by other reporters to have been the third head of leadership at the supposed management table.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: SinatraClub] #868698
12/03/15 10:51 AM
12/03/15 10:51 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
A
antimafia Offline OP
Underboss
antimafia  Offline OP
A
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
Lorenzo Giordano is going to be released in several days.

Link to French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...afia-libere.php

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #868710
12/03/15 12:31 PM
12/03/15 12:31 PM
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 663
M
mike68 Offline
Underboss
mike68  Offline
M
Underboss
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 663
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Lorenzo Giordano is going to be released in several days.

Link to French-language article:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...afia-libere.php


Interesting, I wonder who took out the contract on him in 2011?

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #868712
12/03/15 01:22 PM
12/03/15 01:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
D
dixiemafia Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
dixiemafia  Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
D
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,143
Alabama
He will still be on tight restrictions and be in a halfway house so he's not fully out and ready to rub elbows just yet though.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #868837
12/04/15 07:40 PM
12/04/15 07:40 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 62
C
cdn_wiseguy Offline
Button
cdn_wiseguy  Offline
C
Button
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 62
Update on the earlier arrests in montreal.

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...rict-conditions

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: cdn_wiseguy] #869293
12/10/15 10:30 AM
12/10/15 10:30 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
A
antimafia Offline OP
Underboss
antimafia  Offline OP
A
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,560
Molotov-cocktail attacks on two establishments in Montreal overnight.

Links to French-language articles:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ils-molotov.php

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/10/montreal-deux-commerces-vises-par-des-engins-incendiaires

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #869301
12/10/15 11:27 AM
12/10/15 11:27 AM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 62
C
cdn_wiseguy Offline
Button
cdn_wiseguy  Offline
C
Button
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 62
When I finished reading the story about the Molotov cocktails, I clicked on a link that was said to be posted 4 hours ago.

My French is just mediocre, and google translate wasn't the greatest. But it looks as though the story suggests that the arrest of Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto saved their lives because of a threat on their lives.

Hopefully my translation wasn't way off, but if that's what the story implies, my guess would be that Arcadi, Del Baso and Giardano are laying ground work for their return.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/10/les-tetes-de-rizzuto-et-sollecito-mises-a-prix

Page 3 of 96 1 2 3 4 5 95 96

Moderated by  Don Cardi, J Geoff, SC, Turnbull 

Powered by UBB.threads™