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De Niro announces on Fallon that The Irishman is going ahead and will star De Niro, Pesci, Pacino and possibly Keitel.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2432022/jimmy-f...artin-scorsese/

Still no official confirmation though.


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I'll believe it when i see the trailer .And i thought that Pesci has retired..


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He came out of retirement for The Good Shepherd and that movie with Helen Mirren, so he could come back for this - but I agree, too much time has passed. All the main players are too old for this.


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http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/16/martin-scorsese-the-irishman-robert-de-niro

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“It’s Steve Zaillian writing, and Bob and I are working out the schedule and the financing,” Scorsese said. Asked about the idiosyncrasies of film financing, he added, “If you’e doing well, you can do another film if (1) you agree with the subject matter and (2) if it’s a film that others want. If it’s a film you want to do with a few friends, you have to find a way to do it.”


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I said this many times there are not to old to do this movie. These guys are all in pretty good shape.

Get a good script it would be great.


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There's an article where De Niro talks about how they're possibly going to use some Benjamin button type technology on him as well as the other cast mates so they look younger. Him and Scorsese are very adamant about it happening and De Niro said in that same interview that they should start filming sometime next year. Like the quote above says, it seems like it's just about scheduling at the moment but it'll get resolved soon from what De Niro and Scorsese have said.

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After waiting so long for this film,lets hope it lives up to all the hype..


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As login as Scorsese is directing I think it very well could. The most important part of the movie is the director. Obviously the writers and actors play an integral part as well. But a huge indication of what movie will be great and what movie won't is the director who is behind the movie.

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i saw the movie kill the irishman which was excellent imho.


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I've found out that it seems Gus Russo is going to be a technical/research adviser on the film. So expect a lot of JFK conspiracy ho-ha.


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Money is committed now, so it looks like this will actually be made:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cannes-stx-wins-battle-martin-893113


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Great news, thanks for the update Pete..


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I'm avoiding reading the book because you don't read a book that a Scorsese movie is based on before seeing the movie. You just don't do it.


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Scheduled to start shooting in January.

I'm guessing Thanksgiving or Christmas release, 2017.


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Hopefully it's a go now. There's no way this movie doesn't go down as one of the all time greats. Probably the last time the whole "gang" would make a movie together. Can't wait.

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You should read the book, because the screenplay is going to be completely different I'd stake a lot on it. The book honestly reads fairly dry, although filled with what generally feels like accurate to semi-accurate information throughout. There are some very bold claims that also seem as thought they could be true but, would be historic if they were. That being said none of it jumps off the page (i.e. Nick Pileggi's Wiseguy is the Goodfellas screenplay nearly copied) this will all be reworked to be told better than the book conveys it. They book tells a very dull but potentially accurate detail of how Hoffa died and who participated doing the same with the Joe Gallo murder. I doubt the movie will combo over that as calmly as the book did.

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The only way I can see this being screwed up is if Scorsese relies on the crass humor and gratuitous sex like he did with Wolf of Wall Street. It's about the Hoffa hit, for crying out loud. Let the story tell itself.


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Sounds good be a good film hope there all in it grin

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Originally Posted By: rickydelta
Sounds good be a good film hope there all in it grin


Joe Pesci turns down role in The Irishman.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment...ticle-1.2642556


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That is genuinely heart breaking. Pesci might have felt wronged at some point. We have to remember these celebs are people too. sometimes it's just one comment made to the press taken the wrong way, one line in a movie that the actor wanted but the director didn't...then add to that the large egos rich and famous people already have. It doesn't take much. Hope Pesci reconsiders.


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On a positive note, the story comes from The Hollywood Reporter, which only claims "sources say". It's basically hearsay at this point.


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Originally they needed all those names to get financing for this movie. Now they have the financing.

He might not have liked the screen play for his character in this movie.

He is not one of the two main stars of this movie. He is a supporting actor for that matter so is Kietel.


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What happen to joe pesci not seen him any films for years plus he never went to Good Fellas film Reunion ?

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Originally Posted By: rickydelta
What happen to joe pesci not seen him any films for years plus he never went to Good Fellas film Reunion ?


He's basically retired from Hollywood..


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Ok Roger that grin

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Pesci got jerked around on the original deal for this movie that years ago before Cannes. As well as the Travolta/Gotti movie that hasn't yet panned out. He sued on the Gotti movie and won like 3 million b/c he had to gain weight and they never got the ball rolling in the film.

He did The Good Shepard, that CIA/Cold War spy thriller in '06 where he plays a fictitious version of Carlos Marcello. He also did that brothel true story, Love Ranch in '11 I believe but as of now he is closer to fully retired than semi-retired from film. If The Irishman being green-lite isn't worth it for him, surely he's happier away from acting, maybe it's for the best and somebody else steals the role in memorable fashion.
I believe Pesci was to be casted as Bufalino, that could become a very classic character if done correctly, I'm very interested to see who is cast instead in what could be the role of the film in all likelihood, depending on which themes of the book the film decides to adapt.

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Originally Posted By: Footreads
Originally they needed all those names to get financing for this movie. Now they have the financing.

He might not have liked the screen play for his character in this movie.

He is not one of the two main stars of this movie. He is a supporting actor for that matter so is Kietel.


They only got half the money they wanted/needed. I don't know that this played a role in Pesci stepping away at all, and I like your theory that he may've just been attached in name only to easier "sell" the film and reach a financing deal. Regardless, he was to play Bufalino which seems like it would've been a main role with the dynamic between Bufalino and Sherran in the book. With Pacino playing Hoffa I'm curious who may be cast as Angelo Bruno, Joey Glimco, and if they do the Gallo murder scene

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ive been waiting for this for a while...but even with its all star cast, Pacino and De Niro are too old to pull this off

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I think they can pull this off. First of all both actors are still in pretty good shape. Very good shape for their age. Plus their was talk of using special effects to give them a younger look in parts of this movie.

Too bad they are all afraid to invest some of their own money to make it work.


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Originally Posted By: Footreads


Too bad they are all afraid to invest some of their own money to make it work.



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Originally Posted By: Footreads
I think they can pull this off. First of all both actors are still in pretty good shape. Very good shape for their age. Plus their was talk of using special effects to give them a younger look in parts of this movie.

Too bad they are all afraid to invest some of their own money to make it work.


"some talk" of using special effects to give them a younger look is scary. How de niro will pull off being a 30 something gangster is just ridiculous. bufalino and an older hoffa i could understand, but these guys are still old. the problem is, goodfellas and casino set the bar high and while i love de niro and pacino, they're way past their prime.

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Did you see DeNiro in The Family they show him before he became a rat. He looked a lot younger in that scene.


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Did you see DeNiro in The Family they show him before he became a rat. He looked a lot younger in that scene.


a bit younger, sure...but to play a 30 year old rising up the teamster ranks is ridiculous. i hope this movie is great but pacino isn't nearly the same actor as he once was.

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Pacino is a lot more versatile actor then DeNiro in my oppionion. But it is true some actors lose it when they get older.

Look at Rod Steiger he was a little older when he made it big. But he did lose it when he got older.

I think the same thing was true with Paul Newmen. Fantastic when he was young. Not so great when he got older.


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Deniro & Pacino Are the Best Actors And Made Great Movies . lets Hope this One Will be one of there best Last Great film they do grin

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I think De Niro is more versatile than Pacino.

Has Pacino ever had a strong role in a comedy for example?

De Niro has had several.

He has more in his locker.

Pacino is too shouty.


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[qMoe_Tilden]I think De Niro is more versatile than Pacino.

"Has Pacino ever had a strong role in a comedy for example?"

Has DeNiro ever done Shakespeare smile?

"DeNiro has had several."

Evidently DeNiro needs money. He is making a lot more movies then he used to some are total crap. Like the one with him and travolta. How about the one with him and Stallone there are crap.

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Lanza's Mob is being written by this freak:

Christina Ann-Marie DiEdoardo was born in Queens, N.Y. in 1969. After completing her undergraduate work at the University of Missouri-Columbia in journalism and political science, Christina spent a decade as a newspaper reporter before embracing the Dark Side and attending law school. She became the first person to undergo a gender transition in the history of the William S. Boyd School of Law while a student and she remains the only openly Trans attorney licensed to practice law in Nevada. After passing the California Bar Exam in 2008, she relocated to San Francisco in 2009, where she currently resides and practices criminal defense at her own firm. She also serves as a contract public defender in Lake County, California.

When not straightening out her clients' misunderstandings with law enforcement, Christina enjoys historical research and writing. Her first nonfiction book-"Lanza's Mob: The Mafia and San Francisco" will be published in mid-2016 by Praeger


lol. I noticed that too and I knew it would create a stir. As long as the book's good, I don't care. But $37 being the pre-order price, for 186 pages? I'll bet everything in this book can be obtained through google searches. So far it looks bad. Her personal life aside, she's not even from SF, or even the west coast. She's a NY academic and she's clearly trying to cash on uncharted territory in mob literature, San Francisco. Maybe to pay for that operation? tehe.


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[qMoe_Tilden]I think De Niro is more versatile than Pacino.

"Has Pacino ever had a strong role in a comedy for example?"

Has DeNiro ever done Shakespeare smile?

"DeNiro has had several."

Evidently DeNiro needs money. He is making a lot more movies then he used to some are total crap. Like the one with him and travolta. How about the one with him and Stallone there are crap.



De Niro is actually very well off with his real estate development and properties. he owns quite a bit in soho and his son is one of nyc's power brokers, he and his wife have a very successful real estate brokerage firm and own quite a few buildings in manhattan. hes not hurting financially in any way

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Lanza's Mob is being written by this freak:

Christina Ann-Marie DiEdoardo was born in Queens, N.Y. in 1969. After completing her undergraduate work at the University of Missouri-Columbia in journalism and political science, Christina spent a decade as a newspaper reporter before embracing the Dark Side and attending law school. She became the first person to undergo a gender transition in the history of the William S. Boyd School of Law while a student and she remains the only openly Trans attorney licensed to practice law in Nevada. After passing the California Bar Exam in 2008, she relocated to San Francisco in 2009, where she currently resides and practices criminal defense at her own firm. She also serves as a contract public defender in Lake County, California.

When not straightening out her clients' misunderstandings with law enforcement, Christina enjoys historical research and writing. Her first nonfiction book-"Lanza's Mob: The Mafia and San Francisco" will be published in mid-2016 by Praeger


lol. I noticed that too and I knew it would create a stir. As long as the book's good, I don't care. But $37 being the pre-order price, for 186 pages? I'll bet everything in this book can be obtained through google searches. So far it looks bad. Her personal life aside, she's not even from SF, or even the west coast. She's a NY academic and she's clearly trying to cash on uncharted territory in mob literature, San Francisco. Maybe to pay for that operation? tehe.


after a year, the book could be bought for $.01 on amazon. imo, there is a certain poster who is an amazing researcher who should have done the SF project. 186 pages? how comprehensive could that be?

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[quote=dinocrocetti]Lanza's Mob is being written by this freak:

Christina Ann-Marie DiEdoardo was born in Queens, N.Y. in 1969. After completing her undergraduate work at the University of Missouri-Columbia in journalism and political science, Christina spent a decade as a newspaper reporter before embracing the Dark Side and attending law school. She became the first person to undergo a gender transition in the history of the William S. Boyd School of Law while a student and she remains the only openly Trans attorney licensed to practice law in Nevada. After passing the California Bar Exam in 2008, she relocated to San Francisco in 2009, where she currently resides and practices criminal defense at her own firm. She also serves as a contract public defender in Lake County, California.

When not straightening out her clients' misunderstandings with law enforcement, Christina enjoys historical research and writing. Her first nonfiction book-"Lanza's Mob: The Mafia and San Francisco" will be published in mid-2016 by Praeger


lol. I noticed that too and I knew it would create a stir. As long as the book's good, I don't care. But $37 being the pre-order price, for 186 pages? I'll bet everything in this book can be obtained through google searches. So far it looks bad. Her personal life aside, she's not even from SF, or even the west coast. She's a NY academic and she's clearly trying to cash on uncharted territory in mob literature, San Francisco. Maybe to pay for that operation? tehe.


after a year, the book could be bought for $.01 on amazon. imo, there is a certain poster who is an amazing researcher who should have done the SF project. 186 pages? how comprehensive could that be? $37? 'it' is probably looking to subsidize the cost of a penile implant

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I actually downloaded the free preview to my Kindle app, and it looks somewhat interesting. The chapters seem to hit every angle. Just, at 186 pages, I can't see how expansive the chapters could possibly be. I think I'll take your advice and wait till it comes down to $.01 on amazon, or until a library gets it.


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Is there any connection between these recent posts and "The Irishman"? I don't know what's being talked about, but I keep clicking on the thread because it looks like someone has added something about The Irishman.


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A little bit of thunder in showbiz media this week.

So far, plan is for late 2018 release, filming to take place next year. DeNiro will play younger Sheeran as well as old. He jokes about "Benjamin Button" technology.

7 Things to Know About the Martin Scorsese–Robert De Niro–Al Pacino Mob Opus 'The Irishman'

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/7-things-know-martin-scorsese-141100735.html

China Rights To Martin Scorsese’s ‘The Irishman’ Acquired By Media Asia

http://deadline.com/2016/08/china-rights-the-irishman-martin-scorsese-media-asia-1201804077/


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Just finished Charles Brandt's book a couple of days ago. I loved it, can't wait for the movie.

I just can't see Pacino playing Hoffa, love Pacino but can't imagine him as Hoffa..


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Agree, Billy. Pacino's acting is hit and miss. It's either really great, or really bad. And I get the feeling Pacino as Hoffa is going to be bad. But, if it were anyone other than Scorsese directing, and DeNiro in the starring role, I would probably be a lot more worried. lol.


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Just need Pesci on board but can't see it happening..


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Someone here made a good point that Pesci allowed them to throw his name around to secure the financing. Now that they have it, he's bailing, staying retired.


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i can't believe pesci is passing. joe is my favorite mob actor. he can do the role in his sleep. watched him in J.F.K. as david ferrie. joe managed to get the new Orleans accent down until his character has a few explosive moments and it is classic pesci.


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Pesci's midwest accent in Casino was the first thing I noticed when seeing it at the theater. At first I thought it was going to be annoying, but right off the bat he's delivering those funny one liners in his narration.

"jerst anerther fat fuck walking out of the cersino with a sertcase..."


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Martin Scorsese's The Irishman bought by Netflix

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/fe...de-niro-silence


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Pacino is playing Hoffa? Are you kidding? Nobody can touch Nicholson as Hoffa.

Pesci was in "The Good Shepherd" for about 30 seconds and he stole the whole movie.

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"You're the people that scare me. You're the people that make the big wars." Pesci's character. Best part of that movie.

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all these guys are too old, better with new faces, you can.t turn back time, sheeran was a huge guy, deniro can't play him, he would make a fool of himself.



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all these guys are too old, better with new faces, you can.t turn back time, sheeran was a huge guy, deniro can't play him, he would make a fool of himself.


I hate to say it, but I'm afraid I have to agree.


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Scorsese was honored by an Irish university recently.

http://www.thejournal.ie/scorsese-trinity-award-3257800-Feb2017/


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Martin Scorsese's The Irishman bought by Netflix

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/fe...de-niro-silence


And, this could be trouble. They already had a deal with other distributors, then went behind their back, after the deals were complete, to sign a universal deal with Netflix, which might not even be legal. This could all end up in court. I hope it doesn't delay filming.


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Supposedly Pesci will be in this movie now, at least according to Scorsese's editor. She did a recent interview confirmed he is in. That is awesome.

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Anyone know when it's being released? smile

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I don't think they've even starting shooting it yet so I would say a year or two or least.

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Hopefully deniro will be dead by then.


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What makes you say that? I kind of agree he is too old and I don't really like the idea of Scorsese using cgi.

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He is a fake Italian watch Mean streets listen to the way he talked in it. The same way Steven Segal talked in Out for Justice. Over time he got better at it. He is a fake Italian. He just another fagot liberal prick. Better if he die's.


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Don't think I agree with that but everyone has an opinion. Not quite sure what you mean by fake Italian. I think his mother was German and his father was half Italian.

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Scorsese says some elements of Goodfellas will be there, but don't expect Goodfellas.


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“I think this is different, I think it is,” he insists. “I admit that there are – you know, Goodfellas and Casino have a certain style that I created for them – it's on the page in the script actually. Putting Goodfellas together was almost like an afterthought, at times I was kind of rushing, I felt I'd already done it because I'd played it all out in terms of the camera moves and the editing and that sort of thing. The style of the picture, the cuts, the freeze-frames, all of this was planned way in advance, but here it's a little different.

“The people are also older in The Irishman, it's certainly more about looking back, a retrospective so to speak of a man's life and the choices that he's had to make.”


http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entert...r-a7731351.html


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Joe Pesci confirmed for comeback in The Irishman
Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/86...6YvtiAGbyXvc.99


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Pow, boom, bing. Was he shaking, Frankie?

Hell yeah! I'm so excited about this.


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Looks like Netflix is just putting up the money for it, it will still be released to theaters. They want it to qualify for an Oscar.


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I'm sure I'll be there the first weekend, but I'm pretty skeptical about how good it'll be. Part of that's the technology they'll be using - the actors still have to project some vigor and there's a lot of old coots here. The other thing is that between the technology and the top five or so actors will there be any money left to make the movie? They may have been better just doing an over-the-hill gangster comedy.


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The only director who could pull this off is Marty.


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I'm sure I'll be there the first weekend, but I'm pretty skeptical about how good it'll be. Part of that's the technology they'll be using - the actors still have to project some vigor and there's a lot of old coots here. The other thing is that between the technology and the top five or so actors will there be any money left to make the movie? They may have been better just doing an over-the-hill gangster comedy.


Netflix is putting up the money for theater release. Every indication is that they're willing to spend whatever it takes. The industry is keeping an eye on this. It's success or failure could change Hollywood forever.


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Honestly I don't have high expectations for this.

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As great as it is to see Pesci on board, it's too bad he's playing someone as introverted as Buffalino reportedly was. He'd be perfect playing some go between who talks a lot, so we get some great Pesci lines. I mean, how does Joe Pesci play someone nicknamed "The Quiet Don"?


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Yeah it is. I was convinced Pesci would somehow flake out until I saw these pictures. This is real. Scorsese, DeNiro and Pesci back together. Oh, and just throw in Pacino for score.


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Why did they have to give that windbag Dietl a mobster role? In Goodfellas he basically plays himself. Loudmouth cop busting Henry at the end. He was in Wolf of Wall Street, too. A Scoresese regular.


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Why did they have to give that windbag Dietl a mobster role? In Goodfellas he basically plays himself. Loudmouth cop busting Henry at the end. He was in Wolf of Wall Street, too. A Scoresese regular.


LOL looks like Marty has a weak spot for him, he could do a decent Glimco I think, here he is at Rao's.

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Yeah, he's part of Scorsese's usual ensemble. I imagine Dietl was quite useful for consultancy, going back to Goodfellas. I'm sure he has stories about wiseguys.


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Looks incredible. According to someone who worked behind the scenes, Scorsese is in no rush. He doesn't expect it out until December of 2019.

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Scorsese is in no rush.


It's the box office. People will come out to see a star's final film, and several of this cast might not make it to next December.


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Will this be Scorsese's final film? I wonder if this will be a film that gets oscar nominations.


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I have no doubts that The Irishman is going to deliver on every level for Scorsese fans, but the only thing that bugs me is that with Netflix's monster budget, they still filmed entirely in New York. They should have found some locations around Detroit and Scranton that still look mid 20th century. The Hoffa story is a midwestern story, not a NY story. I'm sure they filmed in part of New York that resemble Northeast Pennsylvania and The D good enough, though. After all, all of Casino was filmed in Vegas, even the midwest scenes. A lot of Goodfellas was filmed in Toronto, seamlessly. Someone as good as Marty could make it work.


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
I have no doubts that The Irishman is going to deliver on every level for Scorsese fans, but the only thing that bugs me is that with Netflix's monster budget, they still filmed entirely in New York. They should have found some locations around Detroit and Scranton that still look mid 20th century. The Hoffa story is a midwestern story, not a NY story. I'm sure they filmed in part of New York that resemble Northeast Pennsylvania and The D good enough, though. After all, all of Casino was filmed in Vegas, even the midwest scenes. A lot of Goodfellas was filmed in Toronto, seamlessly. Someone as good as Marty could make it work.


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Casino had a relatively old cast, too. It's probably one of the reasons it was heavily criticized, even though they said it was because of the violence. If younger actors had played Ace and Ginger, the critics probably would have been more friendly to it, despite the violence.

I'm glad Scorsese didn't ruin this by writing in a role for DeCaprio or someone just to appease critics and get a younger audience.


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If we keep going we might get every still from the movie onto this thread, then we can just scroll down and watch it.


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Casino had a relatively old cast, too. It's probably one of the reasons it was heavily criticized, even though they said it was because of the violence. If younger actors had played Ace and Ginger, the critics probably would have been more friendly to it, despite the violence.

I'm glad Scorsese didn't ruin this by writing in a role for DeCaprio or someone just to appease critics and get a younger audience.


De Niro was in his late-forties. Why would his character need to be older? It made sense. Pesci was around the same age. Maybe he could have been a little younger, but, again, not a noticeable issue.

De Niro, here, looks decrepit. It's a big blow to the credibility of the movie. Not to mention his recent career choices.


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From Katherine Narducci's twitter.

Behind the scenes, Christmas day.

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It's great seeing Pesci back making a film. And this could also be his last film he ever makes..


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Casino had a relatively old cast, too. It's probably one of the reasons it was heavily criticized, even though they said it was because of the violence. If younger actors had played Ace and Ginger, the critics probably would have been more friendly to it, despite the violence.

I'm glad Scorsese didn't ruin this by writing in a role for DeCaprio or someone just to appease critics and get a younger audience.


De Niro was in his late-forties. Why would his character need to be older? It made sense. Pesci was around the same age. Maybe he could have been a little younger, but, again, not a noticeable issue.

De Niro, here, looks decrepit. It's a big blow to the credibility of the movie. Not to mention his recent career choices.


The one act of casting that irked me was in Goodfellas, not Casino. Joe Pesci, who is obviously much fucking older than Ray Liotta in that film, playing Tommy, who was what, 30 when he died? The fucking guy looks like he was 45 even back in the 1960s parts of the movie. Obviously artistic license and he was great in the role but as far as historical accuracy, come on.

As far as the casting of Ace and Ginger, if you went true to life with them no one would pay to see it - they were a pair of ugly fuckers.

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You might think I'm joking but I feel this was a missed opportunity to get Tony Siricio and Vincent Pastore involved in some way in this one. If you had Al, DeNiro, Pesci, Siricio and Pastore in the same movie it'd be the best gangster flick just on cast alone. No one plays a good old school fat fuck mobster like Pastore.

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De Niro will be made to like he’s in his 30s, he was in 102 movies not bad.

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Why do the always have to cast big names??I mean its on Netflix,I guarantee you there's at least 20guys who could of done a better job than Deniro.Imagine if Coppola listened to the studio and casted James Caan instead of Pacino.The directors today are gutless

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Why do the always have to cast big names??I mean its on Netflix,I guarantee you there's at least 20guys who could of done a better job than Deniro.Imagine if Coppola listened to the studio and casted James Caan instead of Pacino.The directors today are gutless


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Scorsese's well past his 'taking on the studio' days. They throw him a ton of money to basically make whatever movie he wants, and they've always wanted another mob movie with him and DeNiro. This is probably the curtain call for Scorsese, Deniro and Pesci. No need to go young with the cast. We're talking about Sheeran's story here, anyway, not Casablanca.


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I don't mind that they cast De Niro and Pesci along with having Scorsese direct. These guys are legends and Netflix knows, if you put all 3 of these in a movie, people will have interest and will watch it. Plus, if De Niro and Pesci can still pull it off, who cares how old they are and that their faces need to be digitally restored?

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They could have used younger actors, but they just make them younger. I watched Ant-Man and the Wasp yesterday they used the same technology to make Michael Douglas and Laurence Fishburne younger, looked pretty good.

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Dan Moldea (author: Hoffa Wars) on FoxNews today talking about Sheeran, says he's a fraud. Calls "The Irishman" a "fantasy". I think he's being kind of salty. Most biographical films have a lot of staged events and even some made up characters. It's ultimately entertainment.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5980175...YAEYXIlBy5wNde8m1SlJ51SsHo#sp=show-clips


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Dan Moldea (author: Hoffa Wars) on FoxNews today talking about Sheeran, says he's a fraud. Calls "The Irishman" a "fantasy". I think he's being kind of salty. Most biographical films have a lot of staged events and even some made up characters. It's ultimately entertainment.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5980175...YAEYXIlBy5wNde8m1SlJ51SsHo#sp=show-clips


Wasn't Moldea himself also a bit controversial?


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I haven't looked up a lot of criticism of Moldea, but by reading his books I can tell for myself that he has a habit of jumping to conclusions based on mere third party connections between subjects. I don't entirely disagree with all of his conclusions and they are plausible, but he has a tendency to pass them off as fact. I still like him. Great mob writer. I still have his book about Reagan and MCA on my wish list.


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De Niro said on CNN that the title will be like the book. I heard you paint houses instead of the Irishman. Good choice.

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When was the DeNiro CNN interview?


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Is this movie still coming out in the later part of 2019 or have they moved it up? Last I heard it's still almost a year out. Seems weird they're doing interviews and whatnot if it's still that far away.

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I think it's too late for the 2019 Oscars, so they want to release it last next year for 2020 Oscars. They're going to put it in limited theaters for a couple of weeks to make it eligible. So, I predict Thanksgiving or Christmas, 2019.


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When was the DeNiro CNN interview?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--wsPKKj_H0


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Thanks Hollander. So, recently, huh? I remember DeNiro said something about the movie going by the book title a couple of months ago, but never heard anything more after that.


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The guy who wrote the book "I Heard you Paint Houses" Charles Brandt was on the radio last night and said the movie is coming out November 2019. They are changing the title to "I Heard You Paint Houses" as well. Or DeNiro is pushing for the name change. He's going to try and get DeNiro to come on the radio with him next time closer to the release date to hype up the movie.

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That all sounds about right. November of next year puts it right in the running for an Oscar in 2020. It's too late this year. I like the book's title better, too.


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Just a teaser trailer (no footage is shown unfortunately) but it's something.

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I wonder if it's going to run in theaters for any amount of time before it's available on Netflix.


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It said it would and Netflix will if they hope to garner any Oscars next year. The Academy has something in their guidelines about films must be presented in theaters to x amount of days/weeks to be eligible. That's why ROMA (another Netflix movie) was released in theaters and it took home some gold last night.

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It will be in theaters. Unfortunately, I probably won’t be able see it in theaters as it’ll probably be shown at private screenings in New York City and LA for about a week. But at least Netflix is there. I hope the de-aging doesn’t hurt the experience of the film at all.

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I think Irishman is right. They're only going to put it in theaters for a week or so just to make it eligible for the Oscars. DeNiro said in a recent interview that it would run longer in theaters. Maybe just wishful thinking on his part.

I don't think the de-aging is going to be that extreme. Probably going to make those guys look 50 instead of looking 80, even though these characters will be in their 30s and 40s in the flashback scenes. Movies have older actors play younger people all of the time. Pesci was nearly 50 when he played Tommy DeSimone, who was 28 when he "disappeared".


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That makes me feel better. I’m not sure how accurate the story is but as long as it’s compelling then I think they can knock it out of the park.

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According to Dan Moldea, a writer I like a lot (see my sig), it's total bullshit. He insists Sheeran did not pull the trigger. He had a "sit down" (that's what he called it on his facebook page) with DeNiro and Gus Russo and tried to convince DeNiro not to do the movie. No luck.

I don't care if movies based on true stories get some things wrong. They're movies. The exception would be documentaries, which serve a different purpose than feature films. We now know Goodfellas was mostly bullshit but guess what? It's still the greatest gangster film ever made.



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Makes sense to me

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300 scenes!

The average movie has 40 to 60.

300 scenes with actors like DeNiro, Pacino, and Pesci, and some people think this is going to suck. lol.

https://www.indiewire.com/2018/05/martin-scorsese-the-irishman-300-scenes-1201962579/


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300 scenes!

The average movie has 40 to 60.

300 scenes with actors like DeNiro, Pacino, and Pesci, and some people think this is going to suck. lol.

https://www.indiewire.com/2018/05/martin-scorsese-the-irishman-300-scenes-1201962579/


And it will have a great soundtrack.


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300 scenes!

The average movie has 40 to 60.

300 scenes with actors like DeNiro, Pacino, and Pesci, and some people think this is going to suck. lol.

https://www.indiewire.com/2018/05/martin-scorsese-the-irishman-300-scenes-1201962579/


De Niro, Pacino and Pesci have been in a combined total of about five decent movies in the last twenty years. Until I see the movie I will reserve judgement, but I'm not going to assume it's going to be good just because of their involvement. The positive thing is that Scorsese's output has remained solid and I don't think he'd attach himself to something if it didn't have promise.

I will see your De Niro, Pacino and Pesci and raise you the guy from Everybody Loves Raymond.


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How do they do that? At 3 hours, that's 36 seconds per scene. Are they dubbing in that fast talking Fedex guy?


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Goodfellas and Casino had a lot of scenes, too. I'm not sure if it was 300, but it was a lot. I remember some Sharon Stone interview where she talked about freaking out when she got the Casino script and seeing how many scenes were in it. Marty likes to keep his movies fast paced, and this will be no exception.


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Scorsese movie and a Tarantino movie this year. Cant wait

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Scorsese movie and a Tarantino movie this year. Cant wait


And both with Al Pacino.


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Yep, will be interesting to see what Pacino's role is in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. You didnt see him in the trailer at all.

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Yep, will be interesting to see what Pacino's role is in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. You didnt see him in the trailer at all.


Pacino will play Marvin Shwarz, the agent of Rick Dalton (DiCaprio).


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Martin Scorsese’s ‘The Irishman’ Delayed Due to Digital De-Aging on Robert De Niro
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It’s taken years for Martin Scorsese‘s The Irishman to hit the big screen, but now, we finally know what has caused the delay: Robert De Niro’s wrinkles. In a new interview on A24’s podcast, A Bigger Canvas, Scorsese revealed that his highly-anticipated mob drama, which is expected to premiere on Netflix and in theaters later this fall, is undergoing a lengthy digital “youthification” process that will de-age De Niro and his co-stars Al Pacino and Joe Pesci. The Irishman director added that he’s “concerned” about the digital effect, as it seems to have altered the “intensity” and the “threat” in his actors’ eyes.

During the discussion with The Souvenir director Joanna Hogg, Scorsese revealed that The Irishman is shot primarily in 35mm film, but the choice has caused issues for the film’s post-production team. “We shot as much 35 as possible,” said Scorsese. “However, there’s a great deal of CGI because we’re doing this youthification of De Niro, Pesci, and Al Pacino. They had to be CGI. They had to be a camera with three lenses. I was just crazy.”

Scorsese went on to say that the process has left him nervous about the final product. “Why I’m concerned, we’re all concerned is that we’re so used to watching them as the older faces,” he said. Scorsese added that The Irishman “cuts back and forth” between various timelines to tell the story of Frank Sheeran (De Niro), a mob hitman who was involved in Teamster leader Jimmy Hoffa’s (Pacino) disappearance. According to IndieWire, the film will span multiple decades, which means that De Niro, Pacino, and Pesci (as mob boss Russell Bufalino) will appear up to 30 years younger at various points in the drama.

The famed director told Hogg that watching the final cut “all together” has helped him spot issues with the de-aging effect. “Now, it’s real. Now, I’m seeing it,” said Scorsese. “Now, certain shots need more work on the eyes, need more work on why these exactly the same eyes from the plate shot, but the wrinkles and things have changed. Does it change the eyes at all? If that’s the case, what was in the eyes that I liked? Was it intensity? Was it gravitas? Was it threat?”

Netflix has yet to announce an official release date for The Irishman, but it’s expected to premiere this fall. Tune in then to see if De Niro’s crow’s feet made the final cut.


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Yeah I read that yesterday. Has me worried and not a good sign if Marty isn't sold on it.

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They suck, they have to stop retreading these guys.
There time has come and gone.

We need new blood.


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They suck? Who are we talking about here homes? One of the best directors/icons!?Every single fucking actor in this movie is beyond amazing and you say they suck? Wow I wonder who you really are

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They suck? Who are we talking about here homes? One of the best directors/icons!?Every single fucking actor in this movie is beyond amazing and you say they suck? Wow I wonder who you really are



You can Stop Wondering...... I’m talkin about Deniro and Pesci.

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Looks great! I can't wait either.

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A couple of three things.

I can't believe the guy from Everybody Loves Raymond is in a Scorsese movie.

They can de-age the actors all they want but you can still tell they're ancient from their line delivery, gestures and body language.

I don't want to sound like I'm moaning - I'll watch this movie like everyone else - but I saw little of the old [or should I say young], dynamic De Niro, Pacino or Pesci in that trailer.

It just looked a bit lethargic.

I would've loved if this came out twenty years ago when Scorsese was still at the peak of his powers and the main players still had the energy to pull it off.

In saying that, I'll still give it a chance.


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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden


Yeah I took a quick glance at social media earlier and it looks like everyone that has seen it has loved it. Good sign!

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I'm looking forward to it! Scorsese, De Niro, Pacino, and Pesci? Sign me up.

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DeNiro and Marty were initially going to do Frankie Machine, about the San Diego mob. DeNiro had read I Heard You Paint Houses to prepare for the Machine role and realized he wanted to do Sheeran's story instead.

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
DeNiro and Marty were initially going to do Frankie Machine, about the San Diego mob. DeNiro had read I Heard You Paint Houses to prepare for the Machine role and realized he wanted to do Sheeran's story instead.



I don’t know much about Frankie Machine, although I read the Wikipedia synopsis and I can say I’m glad they abandoned that project. For one, it’s entirely fictional. It’d be nice to see some smaller families but the silver screen, but man that one sounds like some weird John Wick meets Donnie Brasco thriller that would not entice. The Irishman is getting rave reviews and it actually based on a true story. Scorsese and team made the right decision.

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do you guys see this movie reaching the levels of Goodfellas/Casino?

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Possibly casino. The scope is very wide.

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Originally Posted by Irishman12
I'm looking forward to it! Scorsese, De Niro, Pacino, and Pesci? Sign me up.


Many people were skeptical about the making of the movie. Must feel good for them to prove to people that they’ve still got it.

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do you guys see this movie reaching the levels of Goodfellas/Casino?


I don't think anything these days can reach the levels of The Goodfellas, the film was that good..


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I'm looking forward to it! Scorsese, De Niro, Pacino, and Pesci? Sign me up.


Many people were skeptical about the making of the movie. Must feel good for them to prove to people that they’ve still got it.


Never bet against these men. They've done it too many times before. Now yes, none of them (with the exception of Marty) have done a good movie in a number of years. But I'm still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. It's just a shame we had to wait this long into their careers to get all 3 of these guys together in a film (De Niro, Pacino, and Pesci that is).

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do you guys see this movie reaching the levels of Goodfellas/Casino?


I don't think anything these days can reach the levels of The Goodfellas, the film was that good..


Agreed. Those are some lofty expectations.

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Joe Pesci pretty much retired from acting after Gone Fishin'. I think he was in The Good Shepherd before this and nothing else. What a waste. Ah well, at least this will remove the sour taste of him dropping out of Gotti. Although, it's probably a godsend he didn't get involved in that.


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Anyone hear De Niro's rant to his assistant that was made public as part of a lawsuit against him? It reminds me of Mel Gibson's meltdown.

https://news.sky.com/story/robert-d...ne-call-emerges-in-court-battle-11826719

TBH with some of the stuff he has publicly said about Trump, I'm not one bit surprised he has problems controlling his anger. It was embarrassing to listen to this.


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Does it bother anybody whether or not the story of a movie is accurate or not? I do not think it will make a difference for me but I am curious to see what others think. I have not read the book but I have seen multiple people say that the story is not true at all. I think as long as it is a story that does not have gross historical inaccuracies(Gangster Squad) then it shouldn’t make a difference. I still enjoyed gangster squad but I knew I was watching a cliché.

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Originally Posted by FrankValenti
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I don’t know much about Frankie Machine, although I read the Wikipedia synopsis and I can say I’m glad they abandoned that project. For one, it’s entirely fictional.


Partly fictional, not entirely. Some real names and real stories of California and Detroit guys in the book, and the characters with fictional names are rather blatantly based on real people. If you read The Last Mafioso before Machine you'll know who everyone is.


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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Joe Pesci pretty much retired from acting after Gone Fishin'. I think he was in The Good Shepherd before this and nothing else. What a waste. Ah well, at least this will remove the sour taste of him dropping out of Gotti. Although, it's probably a godsend he didn't get involved in that.


Pesci was actually in a good movie called Love Ranch in 2010, based on a true story about the Mustang Ranch (Reno brothel) owner who killed a boxer having an affair with his wife.


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Originally Posted by Revis_Island
Does it bother anybody whether or not the story of a movie is accurate or not? I do not think it will make a difference for me but I am curious to see what others think. I have not read the book but I have seen multiple people say that the story is not true at all. I think as long as it is a story that does not have gross historical inaccuracies(Gangster Squad) then it shouldn’t make a difference. I still enjoyed gangster squad but I knew I was watching a cliché.


I prefer the movie to be as accurate as possible but I know for Hollywood, they have to add tension/drama, etc. so I know it's not always 100% accurate but for me personally, I like to see as accurate a portrayal as possible.

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I had never heard of Henry Hill when I first saw Goodfellas and I thought it was the greatest movie I'd seen in my life. I had no way of comparing it to reality.


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Scorsese makes it real, Henry Hill's life wasn't as glamorous as in Goodfellas, he was just a low level guy.


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The same with Rosenthal and Casino.


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Originally Posted by Revis_Island
Does it bother anybody whether or not the story of a movie is accurate or not?


I assume all movies are inaccurate. Even if every detail is presented accurately, there's still the matter of what gets left out. They'll do what they have to to make a good story.


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The opening scene is pure Scorsese; a tracking shot moves down a long corridor, sailing past a religious statue, pop music on the soundtrack (In the Still of the Night, by the Five Satins).



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One day I was flipping through channels and I caught a news special about finally finding Hoffa. I couldn't believe it. A minute or so in I found out it was Bruce Almighty. Wtf

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Originally Posted by Irishman12
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Does it bother anybody whether or not the story of a movie is accurate or not? I do not think it will make a difference for me but I am curious to see what others think. I have not read the book but I have seen multiple people say that the story is not true at all. I think as long as it is a story that does not have gross historical inaccuracies(Gangster Squad) then it shouldn’t make a difference. I still enjoyed gangster squad but I knew I was watching a cliché.


I prefer the movie to be as accurate as possible but I know for Hollywood, they have to add tension/drama, etc. so I know it's not always 100% accurate but for me personally, I like to see as accurate a portrayal as possible.


I have to say I agree. I do not know how accurate the Irishman really is or not but I believe as long as Sheeran’s story is in the realm of possibility and realism without any extremely glaring inaccuracies then I believe that it makes no difference.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
The opening scene is pure Scorsese; a tracking shot moves down a long corridor, sailing past a religious statue, pop music on the soundtrack (In the Still of the Night, by the Five Satins).





You have seen it? It has been getting impressive feedback all across the board. Is it well deserved in your opinion?

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No Revis it was mentioned in a review. I was looking for the songs in the soundtrack.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
No Revis it was mentioned in a review. I was looking for the songs in the soundtrack.


Ok. I know there are some theaters premiering it. But it looks like there won’t be a big release from the movie theater chains.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
sailing past a religious statue, pop music on the soundtrack (In the Still of the Night, by the Five Satins).




Callback to Mean Streets. I notice in the trailer Sheeran and his wife are standing in the classroom watching their daughter speak just like Nicky Santoro and his wife watch little Nicky in Casino.


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
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sailing past a religious statue, pop music on the soundtrack (In the Still of the Night, by the Five Satins).




Callback to Mean Streets. I notice in the trailer Sheeran and his wife are standing in the classroom watching their daughter speak just like Nicky Santoro and his wife watch little Nicky in Casino.


There’s probably a voiceover in that scene too. Just like casino.

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We need one scene with Russell Buffalino holding binoculars and saying "peak a boo you fucks you".


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That de-aging software has Pacino looking a little like Michael there.


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It was ok a little long but wasnt suffering threw it. Wasnt Mean Streets, Goodfellas good but wasnt bad either.

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Just watched The Irishman. Superb! A bit long and it drags just a little in some places, but so, so good otherwise. Another classic in the vein of the GF, Casino, and Goodfellas.

I wonder though if some of the historical scenes and references such as the Teamsters, Hoffa, Cuba, Gallo, even Kennedy, etc. will be lost on younger viewers.

Of course, from the opening scene with In the Still of the Night I was captured.


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I haven't had the time to watch it probably Saturday.



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Did anyone else get a touch of sentimentalism whenever
the song ‘Pretend you don’t see her at all’ came on?

Definitely a nod to the Goodfellas scene with that song.

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