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who are the most powerful and richest black gangst #853783
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We always talk about the most powerful and richest lcn members, who are the black gangsters thats doing it big?


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Currently or over the years?

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Currently...the old guys have been talked about to death


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Here are some big time dealers :

Paterson, NJ- Omar "Juice" Williams runs dope and coke in Paterson. He controls a large housing project and probably has 60-80 runners and is brining in $500k a week.

Newark, NJ- Jimmy "chief" xxxxxx (not sure on his last name)- controls about 15 corners. Brining in good money.

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interesting topic.. would like to know more about it..
seems to me this day and age that dope is the drug to push..makes the most sense especially in areas with a ton of addicts.. you know for a fact theyre coming to you at least twice a day everyday to not get sick, and they will literally spend every $ they have...
I see the heroin game as the biggest $ maker when it comes to actual street level sales.. yeah you can make a ton off white if youre wholesaling.. and rock.. well just seems 80s to me even though there is a ton of hard smokers.

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Its probably a bit difficult unless your a dea agent or cop to know that kind of thing. You should ask jerry capeci to start writing about it.

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Theres this guy in baltimore who hasn't been indicted yet.


Baltimore businessman formally targeted for federal criminal prosecution
Jones owns the Pimlico Motors chain of Baltimore auto dealerships
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By Van Smith

Gerald Lamont Jones, the Baltimore body-builder who owns a Gold's Gym franchise in Owings Mills, the Pimlico Motors chain of auto dealerships in Baltimore, and JBL Construction, is now officially a target for federal criminal prosecution, court documents filed yesterday reveal. Jones, who previously was implicated but not charged in overlapping conspiracies allegedly responsible for thousands of kilograms of cocaine coming to Maryland from California, received a "target letter" in February, the documents state.


After Jones' prior attorney, Kobie Flowers, stepped down in an ongoing civil-forfeiture case alleging that Jones' substantial real-estate holdings in Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Florida are derived from proceeds of criminal conduct, he is now being represented by assistant federal public defender Premal Dharia, who is handling both the potential criminal charges and the forfeiture case.


Others with whom Jones was implicated are already serving federal prison time. Baltimore native and former CEO of the Jones-directed hip-hop company Behind Da Scenes Entertainment, Charles Dwight Ransom Jr., pleaded guilty and last year received a publicly undisclosed sentence for his part in the California end of the pipeline, which used private jets to shuttle coke and cash to and from Maryland, and is scheduled for release in 2023. George Sylvester Frink Jr., a Jones business associate based in Baltimore, also pleaded guilty last year in Maryland and is scheduled for release in 2018.

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Scorsese,

yep..more than likely a publicly legit guy....who is doing deals under the radar..

Guy in your article sounds what Stringer Bell was trying to become.

The stereotype of the 1980s nino brown type as the archetype Black criminal helps guys like the Baltimore dude move in silence.

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the comments that threads like this bring out of people are always interesting.
it's all crime...and most of the guys involved will spend years of their lives in cells....there's no pissing contest when it comes to this stuff

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Thats why i started this thread, we know all about the lcn members, but we never here about the successful black gangster until he gets busted


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Cornell jones a fromer dc drug lord has been out for some time and has had a headlines since, but i don't know anything about his net worth or anything.

D.C. strip club has ties to gangster legend
Liquor license points to link

By Jeffrey Anderson - The Washington Times - Thursday, January 27, 2011
A controversial strip club in Northeast Washington is operating with a liquor license reserved in 2007 for a blighted warehouse property owned by a convicted drug kingpin who at the time was receiving city funds to renovate the site as a job-training center for ex-offenders, records show.

A neighborhood group has protested the Stadium Club to the D.C. Board of Zoning Adjustment, as reported last week by The Washington Times, claiming it is a sexually oriented business that should have been denied a permit. The club is co-owned by politically connected developer Keith Forney, a donor of unspecified amounts to D.C. Council member Harry Thomas Jr.’s nonprofit group Team Thomas. That organization is under investigation by the D.C. attorney general’s office.


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Before Mr. Forney and a partner purchased the 13,000-square-foot warehouse space at 2127 Queens Chapel Road, it was the property of a family business managed by Cornell Jones, the District’s most notorious drug trafficking figure of the 1970s and 1980s and now executive director of the nonprofit group Miracle Hands. The group bills itself as a “resource access site for many who are underemployed, unemployed and/or those who are facing various socioeconomic plights.”

From 2004 to 2008, Miracle Hands received more than $4 million from the D.C. HIV/AIDS Administration. In 2008, the group was tainted by an FBI raid and complaints from city monitors and former clients that it had misused city funds.

Among the funds in question were $420,000 in two city housing grants to renovate the Queens Chapel warehouse space to use as the Miracle Hands‘ job-training center. The second grant was awarded in March 2007, two months before city records show that a Southeast Washington club owner announced plans to transfer his liquor license to the same address.

While Mr. Jones’ involvement with the Stadium Club raises questions and his nonprofit continues its work, he has declined to return calls and text messages seeking information. But Miracle Hands never completed the warehouse renovation.

‘The Ghost’

Mr. Jones is a D.C. gangster legend.

Immortalized in the Black Entertainment Television documentary series “American Gangster,” in which he was nicknamed “the Ghost,” Mr. Jones has credentials that include running an open-air drug market for PCP, heroin and cocaine on Hanover Place in Northwest Washington, a short drive from the U.S. Capitol, and importing drugs internationally for distribution throughout the Eastern United States.

Former Georgetown Hoyas basketball coach John Thompson Jr. also appears in the documentary to attest to Mr. Jones’ civic influence and his reputation as a Robin Hood figure in the District’s impoverished communities.

Federal court records show Mr. Jones owned several businesses and numerous residential properties in the District and Maryland used to launder money and to store and prepare narcotics for distribution. He used friends and family members to conceal his drug-dealing activities, the records show. In the investigation leading to his arrest and 1986 conviction for drug trafficking, detectives found $586,300 in cash in a safe-deposit box in the name of his father and mother.

A federal tax court slapped Mr. Jones with a $16.5 million judgment in 1990, saying he had failed to report income on $33 million in drug sales from 1985.

Mr. Jones was released from prison in 1995 after serving the low end of a nine- to 27-year sentence. The Internal Revenue Service declined to comment on the status of Mr. Jones’ tax debt.

In the late 1990s, Mr. Jones started Miracle Hands to help ex-offenders, troubled youths and homeless people. He housed the organization in a warehouse complex at 2127 Queens Chapel Road that he and his family purchased in 2002 for $1.2 million, according to D.C. land records.

The warehouse complex had multiple purposes. In 2000, Mr. Jones’ wife applied for a liquor license with the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board (ABC) for a nightclub called D.C. Tunnel next door to the space occupied by Miracle Hands. Marvin Turner, a director of Miracle Hands and the registered agent for W.F.J. LLC, the Jones family company that owned the warehouse complex, is listed on the application.

In 2003, when W.F.J. entered into a lease with D.C. Tunnel Inc., it was Mr. Jones who signed for both entities. Plagued by violence and investigations for record-keeping failures, D.C. Tunnel closed in 2008.

About the same time, when the HIV/AIDS Administration became the subject of an FBI investigation, Miracle Hands offices were raided. In a 2009 investigation by The Washington Post, city monitors and clients leveled accusations of improper management of city funds. HIV/AIDS housing administrator Debra Rowe, who approved most of the group’s funding, was fired from her job. She later went to work for a different nonprofit founded by Mr. Jones, The Post reported.

Though the FBI confirmed the investigation in 2009, the bureau would not comment for this article. However, since 2009, Miracle Hands has continued to receive city funds in excess of $1.5 million, according to figures released by the chief financial officer’s office, bringing the group’s total city funding since 2004 to more than $5.8 million.

Officials with the D.C. Department of Health and the HIV/AIDS Administration declined to comment.

Nearly a year since the Stadium Club opened as a high-end strip club with a premium steakhouse and private rooms at 2127 Queens Chapel Road, the websites for the Health Department and HIV/AIDS Administration still direct city residents seeking social services to Miracle Hands — at 2127 Queens Chapel Road.

The Stadium Club

Last year, Mr. Jones sold to the Stadium Club’s owners for $2.7 million the part of the warehouse complex housing Miracle Hands. But a review of ABC records and hearing transcripts and documents filed with the zoning board indicate that Mr. Jones had plans for 2127 Queens Chapel Road dating back to the time Miracle Hands was receiving city funds to renovate the property.

In May 2007, Ron Hunt, owner of Nexus Gold Club in Southeast Washington, placed his liquor license in what is known as “safekeeping” for transfer to 2127 Queens Chapel Road in anticipation of his club being displaced to make way for the construction of Nationals Park, ABC records show. Though the ABC board never published its decision, it approved the license transfer in October 2007.

Liquor licenses are valuable instruments, and the sale of Mr. Hunt’s license took time. He testified before the Alcoholic Beverage Regulation Administration (ABRA), which is under the authority of the ABC, in October 2008 that he entertained “cash on the table” bids on the license from investors in New York, Philadelphia and Florida. But he said he decided to sell to a local investor.

“I don’t want to call names on the record, because some of them were not desirable figures,” Mr. Hunt said, according to a transcript of the ABRA hearing. Mr. Hunt assured the board that he would discourage any buyer of his club’s license from allowing “lap dancing” at a club. He said the activity, prohibited in the District, “breeds prostitution.”

In discussing the impact of a strip club on the neighborhood, ABRA Chairman Peter B. Feather noted that the local investor had “a lot of support from Mr. Jones,” who was identified by the prospective buyer of the liquor license as “just the landlord.”

Though the sale of the license fell through, another buyer appeared in May 2009. Again, ABC records show that business negotiations with Mr. Jones were well under way by the time the board heard the matter.

Baltimore, D.C. developers unite

On May 20, 2009, Baltimore businessman James “Tru” Redding appeared before the ABC on behalf of the Stadium Group LLC, a partnership he had formed in March 2009 with Mr. Forney, the D.C. and Prince George’s County developer. Mr. Forney is a substantial political donor to Democratic Party causes and candidates, including former D.C. Mayor Adrian M. Fenty and Ward 5 Democrat Harry Thomas, now head of the council’s Economic Development Committee.

The business profile for Mr. Redding’s Baltimore-area company, JTR Inc., says it specializes in commercial painting and wall covering. A separate Baltimore company, NLP Enterprises Inc., which also specializes in painting and decorating, lists him as a vice president in charge of field operations. Media reports have described Mr. Redding as a “Baltimore construction mogul” involved in various D.C.-area nightclub and restaurant ventures.

At the 2009 hearing, Mr. Redding’s attorney, Stephen O’Brien, told the ABC that his client already had negotiated a lease with Mr. Jones at 2127 Queens Chapel Road and an agreement with Mr. Hunt to purchase the Nexus Gold Club liquor license. Mr. Redding, whose testimony established that negotiations with Mr. Jones had been under way since about December 2008, pitched the Stadium Club to the board as a “high-end destination spot” with a “Four-Star” restaurant.

“I’m not holding back anything,” Mr. Redding said, adding that he planned to hire a New York architect and begin a multimillion-dollar renovation of what he called “just an old brick warehouse” that “had some trouble.” During a later hearing, Mr. Forney described the warehouse as “a hole that was gutted, essentially nothing really there.”

Mr. Feather, the ABC chairman, urged Mr. Redding to reach out to neighborhood groups to confront potential resistance to the Stadium Club. “They’ll make up their own stories if you don’t set the record straight to begin with in terms of your plans,” Mr. Feather said.

But Ward 5 Improvement Association President Don Padou, whose group is opposed to the club, said association members and others had no indication that a strip club was coming to the area until it was about to open the subsequent year.

After ensuring the board that strippers would be prohibited from soliciting drinks — “Never. Will not happen in my establishment” — and that the club would strictly enforce city laws that prohibit nude dancers within three feet of customers, Mr. Redding got his approval.

“Look forward to your visits with us in the future, not that they’ll be professional,” Mr. Feather said, according to the transcript.

“You’ll be at the grand opening?” Mr. Redding replied just before the hearing transcript was cut off.

Tuesday night in December

The Stadium Club is more than a strip club. On a Tuesday night in December, a Washington Times reporter ordered a New York strip steak in a quiet, well-lit and well-appointed dining room before entering a darker bar area featuring cocktail tables, an elevated main stage, a couple of smaller stages closer to the floor and various VIP sections. The room also included a mezzanine of one-way-glass-enclosed rooms where staff offered a private experience with a dancer for $700 to $1,000 an hour.

Mr. Redding insists that private-room rates are capped at $600 an hour and says he plans to tear out most of them to create larger party rooms.

Nude dancing took place on the cocktail tabletops at eye level in proximity to patrons, who were more than encouraged to buy drinks for the strippers. One dancer who identified herself as “Demi” led a reporter to a private area of the club, insisted on giving out her phone number and encouraged a rendezvous at a downtown condominium. She then asked for money so she could order herself a drink from the bar.

Mr. Redding said the dancers, who “come and go” and are hired as contractors, are free to associate with customers outside the club as they choose. “They’re just regular stripper girls, not prostitutes,” he said in an interview Monday.

In a special VIP area just above the main stage and overlooking the bar stood Mr. Jones, flanked by what appeared to be club personnel. He was closely monitoring the onstage activity.

While Mr. Redding and Mr. Forney deny that Mr. Jones plays an active role with the club, Mr. Jones hosts the entertainment on Sunday and Tuesday nights, according to multiple patrons. Mr. Redding acknowledged that Mr. Jones is a regular two nights a week and has a substantial following. “If Cornell wants to bring in 200 people, then that’s great,” Mr. Redding said. “But that doesn’t mean he gets anything for it, except maybe free admission.”

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Originally Posted By: Homers77
Here are some big time dealers :

Paterson, NJ- Omar "Juice" Williams runs dope and coke in Paterson. He controls a large housing project and probably has 60-80 runners and is brining in $500k a week.

Newark, NJ- Jimmy "chief" xxxxxx (not sure on his last name)- controls about 15 corners. Brining in good money.


Is he personally getting 500k a week or is it the entire gang? Is that gross or profit? Where did you get the figures from?

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Scott burnstien wrote about the drug kingpin maurice phillips being sentenced to life, who tooked over his organization?


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I'd love to know how it works. Was it last year a bunch of Gambino's got indicted for conspiring with N'dragheta on moving billions of coke in return for Italy sending billions worth of Heroin to the US? (Wasn't really sure of the details) Then what the Gambino's wholesale to guys that control large areas like the ones mentioned above? I doubt they sale it on the street themselves.


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You won't ever find out the richest nor most powerful black racketeer due to location and scale of operation. Most local drug task force don't list the DTOs that are major operators in the area until an operation with the exception of identifiable groups ( prison gangs, street gangs, etc). I would think that the major scale operations cover a few or more states. The largest metro areas of states will have significant operators but even small towns as well such as Super Dave from Prentiss. You have the Detroit metro with most of the wholesale traffickers being black racketeers. Here's the Lonzo Griffon DTO from around my way: http://www.panolian.com/contentitem/195300/1180/drug-bust


@ Gets, It's basically like the episode of The Wire when they was trying get the Feds involved but it wasn't on their "agenda list" despite all the evidence. -___-


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Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
I'd love to know how it works. Was it last year a bunch of Gambino's got indicted for conspiring with N'dragheta on moving billions of coke in return for Italy sending billions worth of Heroin to the US? (Wasn't really sure of the details) Then what the Gambino's wholesale to guys that control large areas like the ones mentioned above? I doubt they sale it on the street themselves.


I'm just using these names as examples but I'll explain it how I understand it to be. A guy like john gambino or frank cali sits down at a cafe in brooklyn and arranges the details with someone of similar rank from the other side of the pond. a few weeks later a container of fruit from the dr comes into a warehouse that a relative runs. the heroin is taken out and stashed. guys who are soldiers like frankie inzerillo or joe sclafani or some other veteran drug guy gets 2-3 keys on the front, cuts it and moves it to associates (like hector pagan or some bum) maybe pound half pound at a time. which in turn is cut down more and turned over to street level guys who mostly use as much as they sell. heroin is always a hot commodity. you can only cut coke down so much. the operation is sophisticated on the upper levels but no one on the streets gives a fuck.

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The Gambinos and Calabrians? Fuck, cant believe I missed that one. Just looked it up now.

A Gambino associate related to Ursino 'Ndrine and a Bonnano associate, amongst others. Fucking love these boards.

Originally Posted By: Homers77
Paterson, NJ- Omar "Juice" Williams runs dope and coke in Paterson. He controls a large housing project and probably has 60-80 runners and is brining in $500k a week.


Omar comin'.
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Theres this guy too. Mark Randall Jones a fugitive drug kingpin who has evaded capture for 15 years.

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...3261#Post843261

Suspect Mark Randall Jones is responsible for distributing large amounts of cocaine to various parts of the United States via United States Postal Service. In June 2008, Narcotics Bureau Parcel And Cargo Narcotics Enforcement Team (PACNET) along with United States Postal Inspectors served several search warrants in Los Angeles and San Bernardino Counties. A large amount of cocaine was seized. A Federal Arrest Warrant out of Mississippi has been issued for Suspect Jones regarding this investigation. Suspect Jones has family in Los Angeles, Mississippi and Michigan. http://lacrimestoppers.com/wanteds.aspx?SID=14374

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