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Witness Protection Program ? #792765
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Who do you think doesn't need the Witness Protection Program anymore ? I say Philip Leonetti, Mickey Featherstone, and Dominick Montegio.

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: MobMan] #792766
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In my opinion none of them need it in this day and age , nothing really happens to rats anymore , the mob has realised killing is really bad for business , as long as they stay away from dealing and there r not bodies in the street every 2 mins the Feds pretty much let them earn , there r guys who have ratted who r still living in the open and nothing has happened to them

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: MobMan] #792807
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Who are these rats that are living in the open?
Sounds interesting

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When a criminal turns state's witness and goes into the witness protection program, do they receive any benefits which may make them want to stay in the witness protection program?

1. Are they given a home and/or car?
2. Are they given money to start a business?
3. Are they given money to live on a weekly or monthly basis?
4. What kind of security protection are they given?
5. Do they get paid each time they testify in a court case? If not, do they receive some kind of reimbursement if their testimony makes them miss work?

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: On_and_on_it_goes] #792810
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Originally Posted By: On_and_on_it_goes
Who are these rats that are living in the open?
Sounds interesting

Pisciotta, Paciello, Cicale, to name just a few of the most recent. Not to mention the fact that they knew where Gravano was and never hit him (even though it was talked about, but talk is cheap). Same goes for D'Arco. They've known his whereabouts in Florida forever.

It's like Dom said. There's no upside in hitting a guy after he flips. The Feds are letting them earn and keep the status quo right now. If they ever hit a high profile rat the government would turn it on like a water faucet. The smarter bosses know this.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: MobMan] #792811
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I think as long as they don't flaunt it in their faces, by coming home. These guys are ok. Just stay away from New York. But also let's not forget Carbonaro and Mangavillano trying to whack Gravano in Arizona. Only guy that may have a target on his head IMO is Joe Massino and that's because he was a boss. Everybody else I think is safe to live a long and healthy life!

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: MobMan] #792812
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Bent Finger in Philly testifying in federal case against Uncle Joe and he hangs out at the shore still out in the open even Leonetti kept rolling back to AC when he was in the program but I think he might have had the best chance of being taken out in the early 90s, but he is still around

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: pizzaboy] #792820
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Pisciotti still lives in the same apartment block he always has done PB ?

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Michael Franzese tours the Country and is making movies. Ron Previte lives out in the open and Henry Hill was everywhere.

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: domwoods74] #792825
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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Pisciotti still lives in the same apartment block he always has done PB ?

He's living in a downtown high-rise from what I've heard. He operates his gyms out in the open, and he couldn't care less who knows it.

After those videos of Cicale went viral, I asked around a little bit. He was on Buhre Avenue recently filming those Youtube videos, and he had lunch at one of the Irish pubs. And Vinny's family lives maybe a whole mile away. That piece of shit rolleyes .


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Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: pizzaboy] #792829
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Just goes to show that the fear and intimidation the mob used to wield with it's own is on the wane , it's only a matter of time before extortion victims start telling them to fuck off aswel

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Vincent " Vinnie Ocean" Palermo is a rich man in Texas.

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #792832
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This is slightly off topic, but I think it's relevant here. But we get a lot of angry posters here who are always claiming that people shouldn't be posting this and people shouldn't be posting that. Here's my answer to them:

We're living in a day and age where the PEOPLE WHO TESTIFIED AGAINST THEM are walking the streets and laughing about it. Do you really think anyone gives a shit what's said on an obscure message board by an anonymous poster?

It's a different time. Things change. Simple as that.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #792838
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Vincent cabella

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: pizzaboy] #792839
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: On_and_on_it_goes
Who are these rats that are living in the open?
Sounds interesting

Pisciotta, Paciello, Cicale, to name just a few of the most recent. Not to mention the fact that they knew where Gravano was and never hit him (even though it was talked about, but talk is cheap). Same goes for D'Arco. They've known his whereabouts in Florida forever.

It's like Dom said. There's no upside in hitting a guy after he flips. The Feds are letting them earn and keep the status quo right now. If they ever hit a high profile rat the government would turn it on like a water faucet. The smarter bosses know this.


Well, they did more than talk about hitting Gravano. They were stalking him in Arizona.

But they sent two morons to do the job, Sammy probably would have killed them both lol

Interesting about D'Arco. I don't think I ever heard anything about him being in Florida.

I wonder what kind of money he made off the book with Capeci.

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: pizzaboy] #792842
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Pisciotti still lives in the same apartment block he always has done PB ?

He's living in a downtown high-rise from what I've heard. He operates his gyms out in the open, and he couldn't care less who knows it.

After those videos of Cicale went viral, I asked around a little bit. He was on Buhre Avenue recently filming those Youtube videos, and he had lunch at one of the Irish pubs. And Vinny's family lives maybe a whole mile away. That piece of shit rolleyes .


Piece of shit? Read a comment from him on one of the videos...

Dominick Bazzano1 month ago

Yes, you were misleading the public about your father, for you never stated that your DAD was in the MAFIA and he also killed people...
Don't assume how I feel, I live with remorse everyday. I AGREE, it's not cool to RAT but LOYALTY is a two way street. MY FORMER CRIME FAMILY BROKE THE CODE OF HONOR... I JUST PLAY CHESS... NOW I AM BACK TO HELP CHILDREN KNOW THE FACTS OF THE STREET LIFE... I AM NOT IN THE "WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM" PLACING MY LIFE ON THE LINE TO EDUCATE AND HOPEFULLY SAVE KIDS FROM THAT LIFE....


Come on PB, he is just trying to save kids from the life! hahahaha

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: Blackjack2121] #792843
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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
I wonder what kind of money he made off the book with Capeci.

Seventy three dollars and eleven cents grin.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: Blackjack2121] #792845
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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Come on PB, he is just trying to save kids from the life! hahahaha

His altruism is so sincere that I'm getting choked up. My eyes are honestly tearing. Or maybe that's just from the smell of bullshit permeating my laptop lol.


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Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: pizzaboy] #792846
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It was 73 dollars and 14 cents PB HA HA

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: MobMan] #792848
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Isn't joe defede living quite openly in Florida ?? He was in the news recently crying poverty

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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Isn't joe defede living quite openly in Florida ?? He was in the news recently crying poverty

Joe's dead.


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Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: pizzaboy] #792852
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Yeah that's right , he died a couple of years bak

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: MobMan] #792857
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I think the program nowadays most likely caters to those who are not involved in the life and who are complete pussies. Most likely with families too

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
This is slightly off topic, but I think it's relevant here. But we get a lot of angry posters here who are always claiming that people shouldn't be posting this and people shouldn't be posting that. Here's my answer to them:

We're living in a day and age where the PEOPLE WHO TESTIFIED AGAINST THEM are walking the streets and laughing about it. Do you really think anyone gives a shit what's said on an obscure message board by an anonymous poster?

It's a different time. Things change. Simple as that.



Exactly, the initail intent and violence of the mob at the start of this program is an excellent idea and probably extremely beneficial to hide people from the mexican drug cartels now but the wiseguys who rat just are not afraid anymore similar to posting whatever behind a screen....well said PB

Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: Garbageman] #792866
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Originally Posted By: Garbageman
I think the program nowadays most likely caters to those who are not involved in the life and who are complete pussies.

That's a big part of it, GM.

Because the truth is---and some people won't like hearing this---some of the rats who are living out in the open are tougher than some of the guys left on the street. And I certainly don't mean mentally tougher. They are rats, after all.

And I don't mean all of them. There are some true tough guys left in the life. But if you send one of these kids who looks like Paulie from "Jersey Shore" after a guy like Paciello, what the fuck do you think is going to happen?

Now I don't know Paciello, and I hate what he did. Rats don't usually move me too much if they didn't hurt someone close to me, but he rubs me the wrong way. If that makes me a hypocrite, so be it.

But from what I've heard, Paciello can genuinely take care of himself. Aside from the fact that hitting rats brings too much heat, they'd have to send someone who's actually tougher than the target. And such guys are becoming fewer and farther between.

Originally Posted By: merlino
Exactly, the initail intent and violence of the mob at the start of this program is an excellent idea and probably extremely beneficial to hide people from the mexican drug cartels now but the wiseguys who rat just are not afraid anymore similar to posting whatever behind a screen....well said PB

Sometimes I get lucky and make sense smile.


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Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: MobMan] #792871
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I agree PB. Paciello was a piece of shit, but he is the type of guy that you would need to shoot just to stop him. On top of that, he'd be hard to get to since he travels with an entourage.

Difficult...not impossible


Uncle Charlie once said; "Don't get into pissing matches with skunks."
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Originally Posted By: Bugsyvegas1930
I agree PB. Paciello was a piece of shit, but he is the type of guy that you would need to shoot just to stop him. On top of that, he'd be hard to get to since he travels with an entourage.

He's living like a movie star at the Delano. Every inch of a joint like that is wired for sound and video because of the celebrity clientele that they cater to. Security in a billion dollar hotel is made up almost exclusively of ex-agents and other government employees. So it's honestly even more than just an entourage. Not that it matters. They're not going after that asshole.

Originally Posted By: Bugsyvegas1930
Difficult...not impossible

Shouldn't this be in the "Godfather II" movie quote section? whistle

And welcome to the board, buddy smile.


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Re: Witness Protection Program ? [Re: pizzaboy] #792876
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LOL...Yes, it was a quote from Rocco in GF2. Thanks for the welcome Pizzaboy.


Uncle Charlie once said; "Don't get into pissing matches with skunks."
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No boss should be able to get into the program because they ordered the murders in the first place .

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I would guess that a lot of these people are getting smart realizing that doing a "Hit" on a rat serves no other purpose than revenge, which in turn opens them up to the possibility of arrest and time in the big house- Not worth the risk. Still amazed that Paciello is living so well

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