The encouragement of plea deals can't be understated.

Was Farby Serpico answering to the Chin's orders in your opinion or was he a power on his own? I mean, for example Vic Amuso was official boss until recently, but people say it was in name only since a long time. What about the Chin?

Chin was THE boss until the end.

Everyone answered to him. Everyone.

Chin's son got busted delivering orders and messages to the family from prison. Sonny's right, Chin was on top until the day he drew his last breath.

Vince was The Boss. The End. Moving on . . . .

Well it's just not a matter of forum posters saying they match the Gambinos in size. The FBI has consistently had the family as being the largest (rivaled in size only by the Gambinos) for at least 20 years now. Most of the latest figures put the family at approximately 200 members.

I'll take that as a compliment.

the same fbi that said the outfit only had 2 crews

with the alleged defunct crew doing violent shit

They hate you because of the colour of your skin yet you still defend them

more like they ran from their neighborhoods when a black doctor moved on the block

Some people talk like the mob is the KKK. They aren't exactly progressive with race relations, but they're not burning crosses either. They work with black people and they wouldn't leave a restaurant if a black couple walked in, but they usually want a certain degree of separation. But remember that they make their living on the streets with a bunch of criminals. They are usually brushing up against the thugs, addicts, and gangs. It's all a matter of perspective. It's a bit much to assume they all hate you because of your skin color. Just something to consider ya know..

Edit-- I have been informed of some pretty awful shit, but I guess I just knew of people who weren't quite so hostile.

Thanks Pizzaboy your always informative especially when it comes from the westside

You again?

The FBI said 2 or 3 crews but they never specified which ones or made any comment about Grand Avenue.

I bet cookcounty is white and he's just working everybody on the board. That would be pretty funny.

"I bet cookcounty is white and he's just working everybody on the board. That would be pretty funny"

Cook County.....The Boo Radley of GangsterBB?

@ivyleague


u don't remember issuing your own threat assessment of the crews?

or which crews u thought were defunct or merged and blah, blah, blah?

The Genovese were geographically widespread. They had (until recently) a crews in Springfield, Mass and a made member in New Bedford, Mass. They had crews in Florida (like every family). They have the Tough Tony crew in Queens and a bunch in Brooklyn, including what's left of the Gallo gang (not much) in Red Hook.

Then there's Jersey, where I am guessing half of the Genovese are based now. Plus the Bronx and northern suburbs, where the 116th street crew now is based. Maybe a handful left of the Grennwich Village crew too.

Conversely, the Colombos are in Gravesend, Brooklyn and Staten Island...just a few crews. That's it.

Also,the Genovese guys almost always plea out. The last Genovese guy who decided not to plea out a case was Larry Ricci. So they stuffed him in the trunk of a car.

Great thread. Really interesting information.

The FBI i would never think they are 100 % on anything, they spin things to suit them self's,

I know about approximately 200 members, but this is estimated readings.

Anyway i am just dealing in theory Ivy, not hard facts.

Yes illegal and legal dealings, keeping low, makes me think they have smaller membership tham people think. just a theory on my part.

@abc123


i don't think the ny families still have 200 plus soldiers

if they do then they're fucking illiterate

that would also explain the excessive number of documented rats

Your bizarre jealousy of 'my hometowns LCN is better than your hometowns LCN' is seriously weird.

The cry for attention thing is moving from weird to annoying to now pathological.

It lost it's humour a long time ago.

You're right, Cook.

The Outfit is immortal.

The Outfit dwarfs the five New York Families by half.

The Outfit has no rats and New York is full of them.

And they STILL don't want you.

Because you're fucking Black.

And they think you're an animal.

Man, you guys are way too hard on Cook, and, Cook you are way too aggressive in asserting your opinions.

Now let's all hold hands and get a long.

@ slumpy.

700 of the same repetitious shit stirring rehashed trolling posts and you'd start to lose your temper too.

Cooks a 5yr old who thinks the same joke told 500 times is funny.

So why it may seem people are harsh on him. It's his rodeo.

Today's Daily News has some pictures of him and a little write up on the restaurant.

I searched the NY Daily News site and couldn't find it. Maybe it was in another paper? Would like to read it.

Federici was also honored by former Queens borough president Claire Schulman. Some sort of award for being important to the corona community and such. Either it means he really quit mob life or the Queens borough president joined it.

The Lucchese Family had several black associates on one of its latest charts.

And don't forget Stacks.

It def was the Daily News...It's probably one of those clips where they don't put it on the website and just have it in the paper.... Go to your local corner store and see if they have yesterday's paper, it was in there....