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Mobsters that were very nice guys #789597
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I know anthony casso was considered a very nice guy as is steve crea and nicky scarfo sr.
What about frank locascio , vinny basciano, and chin gigante?
I heard neal delacroce was not a nice guy. Forget where i heard it but Delacroce supposedly slapped ozzy osbourne around because he made fun of frank sinatra. Gave him a black eye and a bloody lip. Had to be in 1982 or something.
He made ozzy sing a sinatra song or something.

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Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789604
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Anthony casso was a nice guy ???? Ha ha u serious . I would say anyone who steals prays on human weakness and murders people is prob not a nice guy

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Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789606
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What about Tommy Pitera?... No... rolleyes


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Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789610
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Sam Destefano I would add to the list.

Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789611
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The papers got it wrong. His nickname was NOT mad sam.

It was Nice sam.

Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789614
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I think that all the people have two sides: good side - bad side. The mobsters too, so I don't understand what do you want to know. Before gangsters, they're people.

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Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789620
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Neil Dellacroce beat up Ozzy Osbourne. Is this guy high?


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Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789623
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Yeah i think i heard that story about Neil... rolleyes.. That's right after they both sniffed a line of ants. shhh

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Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789640
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Carmine Galante was a real nice guy, apparently he had a stare that would put you instantly at ease tongue

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Anthony Mirra comes to mind

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don't forget fifi buccieri..

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Tony Spilotro was a sweetheart.


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Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789688
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Going back a while but Dion O'Banion from accounts of him was supposedly a nice guy for a mobster. His funeral was the biggest Chicago had ever seen at the time, he's said to have helped many poor people in his neighbourhood.

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCDZX7pB0BI[/video]

Here's an interesting doc on him from Irish tv.


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Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789734
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Originally Posted By: Crash
I know anthony casso was considered a very nice guy as is steve crea and nicky scarfo sr.
What about frank locascio , vinny basciano, and chin gigante?
I heard neal delacroce was not a nice guy. Forget where i heard it but Delacroce supposedly slapped ozzy osbourne around because he made fun of frank sinatra. Gave him a black eye and a bloody lip. Had to be in 1982 or something.
He made ozzy sing a sinatra song or something.


I heard that Ronnie Padavona and Vinny Appice put a contract out on Sharon Osborne.

All kidding aside, and this might be in need of a separate thread, wasn't Don Arden (Sharons' dad and manager of Black Sabbath and others, founder of Jet Records etc...) a "connected" guy in London? Are there any ties between the British underworld and LCN?

Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789739
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I heard the Gemini twins used to help old ladies cross the street when they weren't busy nursing stray kittens back to health. Those 2 wouldn't hurt a fly


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Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: blacksheep] #789754
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People try to give JT and Tony bad reps. I grew up in the neighborhood, and nobody called them the twins. They both came from broken homes and it was that fat fuck Roy who made them what they became. Still JT and Tony did their own thing, dirty Harry was Roy's go to, and the others only went to him when needed. They were scared, easily influenced young men who grew up in a time when us neighborhood kids didn't have much. Aside from doing what they did when that fat fuck Roy forced them to do these things, they were quiet and didn't hurt anybody, unless that person deserved it.

Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: durkadurka] #789762
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Yeah Henry borelli must have been a nice guy , he didn't go in for the dismemberment he just like to shoot a lot of people in the head ha ha

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Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Crash] #789769
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Tony Spilotro was a nice guy, he was well respected & he & His family were well liked gentlemen within the Oak Park community. His old man owned a restaurant in the old Patch neighborhood & everyone liked him too. That casino movie is a joke. He was a serious gangster but he wasn't some ultra feared monster that terrorized civilians. He was a loyal soldier to Lombardo who thought he'd be safe pocketing some extra cash & making a few of his own decisions because of the buffer zone between him & his bosses.

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Guys like Alderisio, LaPietra, DeStefano, Buccieri, and later Chiaramonti, Andriacchi, Centracchio, if we're talking Outfit guys these guys were real domineering pricks & bullies to just about everyone.

Chiaramonti used to force his 10 year old son to watch him go to work on guys who couldn't pay up in the back offices of Balmoral Race Track.

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Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #789777
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Tony Spilotro was a nice guy, he was well respected & he & His family were well liked gentlemen within the Oak Park community. His old man owned a restaurant in the old Patch neighborhood & everyone liked him too. That casino movie is a joke. He was a serious gangster but he wasn't some ultra feared monster that terrorized civilians. He was a loyal soldier to Lombardo who thought he'd be safe pocketing some extra cash & making a few of his own decisions because of the buffer zone between him & his bosses.


And thought it was a good idea to fuck Lefty's wife.

Those few decisions cost him his life

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Salvatore Liga in Sicily was very nice and moral: he baked bread in the same oven where he burned bodies.
Toto' Riina introduced many nice guys into the mafia when he took over.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: Mobsters that were very nice guys [Re: Mikey_Sunset] #789780
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Originally Posted By: Mikey_Sunset
Originally Posted By: Crash
I know anthony casso was considered a very nice guy as is steve crea and nicky scarfo sr.
What about frank locascio , vinny basciano, and chin gigante?
I heard neal delacroce was not a nice guy. Forget where i heard it but Delacroce supposedly slapped ozzy osbourne around because he made fun of frank sinatra. Gave him a black eye and a bloody lip. Had to be in 1982 or something.
He made ozzy sing a sinatra song or something.


I heard that Ronnie Padavona and Vinny Appice put a contract out on Sharon Osborne.

All kidding aside, and this might be in need of a separate thread, wasn't Don Arden (Sharons' dad and manager of Black Sabbath and others, founder of Jet Records etc...) a "connected" guy in London? Are there any ties between the British underworld and LCN?



Vinny appice is a very good drummer. He was a brooklyn guy.

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Lol Yeah again, taking that casino movie way too literally. No one gave a fuck whether or not Spilotro was banging some Jew lackeys wife. Rosenthal was some Jew kid from the neighborhood that Lombardo was wise enough to take advantage of, not much more.

Spilotro was killed because he gave the greenlight to kill people That weren't okayed by Aiuppa & they were also selling coke & heroin out There, as well as doing a bunch of other shit tax free & getting away with. Not to mention getting arrested right & left by local law out there.

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In all the history of OC, surely there cant have been any nice gangsters..


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First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Spilotro was killed because he gave the greenlight to kill people That weren't okayed by Aiuppa & they were also selling coke & heroin out There, as well as doing a bunch of other shit tax free & getting away with. Not to mention getting arrested right & left by local law out there.

So he killed people and sold dope, but he was a nice guy because he made his son heart healthy pancakes and went to little league games? (Okay, the pancakes and little league are from the movie lol).

Look, I firmly believe in the duality of man, and it applies to a lot of wiseguys in an almost disproportionate way. I've known a few of them who were genuinely benevolent given the right circumstances.

But when you live by the sword, it's quite possible that you'll die by the sword. And it seems to me that Spilotro ended up exactly where he belongs.


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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Spilotro was killed because he gave the greenlight to kill people That weren't okayed by Aiuppa & they were also selling coke & heroin out There, as well as doing a bunch of other shit tax free & getting away with. Not to mention getting arrested right & left by local law out there.

So he killed people and sold dope, but he was a nice guy because he made his son heart healthy pancakes and went to little league games? (Okay, the pancakes and little league are from the movie lol).

Look, I firmly believe in the duality of man, and it applies to a lot of wiseguys in an almost disproportionate way. I've known a few of them who were genuinely benevolent given the right circumstances.

But when you live by the sword, it's quite possible that you'll die by the sword. And it seems to me that Spilotro ended up exactly where he belongs.


In the desert..


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
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I'm not positive on what your point is. When did I suggest he wasn't one of the bad guys?

The thread was about deceptively friendly gangsters who were well liked & respected by civilians throughout their immediate communities. Tony Spilotro fit this description. He's a guy that if You met him at the red hot stand, you'd never know he was a gangster. As opposed to tyrannical pigs like Phil Alderisio who were feared by their men & hated by their community, & threw their weight around towards anyone who made eye contact with them.

Or was it about something else?

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