I'm trying to find some info about the current mafia if any in Miami and/or Florida. Also if there are any mobsters imprisoned here or any that I would be able to talk to for informational purposes that would help as well.

I know the Traficante family and I believe the Gambinos are still around in Tampa and some parts of Florida but am not really certain about the specifics. Anyone that can help me out? Any info would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

The Trafficantes are pretty much done as far as being what can be considered a family. LoScalzo is supposed to be the boss of what left.

I'd say the Gambinos have had the biggest presence in Florida since the 1980's. Vinnie Artuso has a crew around Palm Beach, but he's away until 2016.

The Genovese have a crew that was run by Renaldi Ruggiero. I don't know if he's still involved or leadership has passed to someone else. He's about 80 years old

They have the most visible presence, but a few of the guys from the Westside's 116th Street crew own a TON of property down there. I'm talking about Publix shopping centers. Seriously.


Yeah, I personally hope he packs it in. Johnny Artuso gets out a little bit earlier. He'll go back into the real estate business and stay there. Guaranteed.


He's very sick. That wasn't just an act to get out of jail.

I thought he flipped.

Sgarrista,

Welcome to the boards. What's left of the LCN in South Florida consists of a handful of guys connected to the Gambino and Genovese families. They are involved in offshore/online gambling, pill mills, counterfeit drug online pharmacies, boiler room phone scams and Medicare/Medicaid fraud.

The Russians are biggest influence in Miami area with tons of credit card scams and other types of identity scams along with usual stuff of drugs n guns

And one fruit peddler named Pepe. Nice guy.

They have pretty much been shut down but some guys made a ton of those pill mills

I know of a guy not even remotely connected to the life who made about twenty million in Broward with that shit. And he just got close to thirty years for it. Not worth it. Fuck that.

What was Trafficante Family peak membership and years?

smart if you can call them that got in and out with the pill mills before the feds and state realized what the hell was going on in florida there were pill mills in every fkn town from pensacola to pahokee and ppl would drive the state stocking up to bring it back to their states. I saw recently in broward and few othee areaa these dumb fks are still doing this but the state and DEA shut ythem down fast now

Oh yeah. The hillbillies from Tennessee to West Virginia were making the run twice a month.

The pill mill crackdown only succeeded in driving up the price of the pills and putting the more blatant operators out of business, there are dozens of clinics still operating down here. The unintended effect of the crack down on the pill mills has been forcing the addict to find a cheaper alternative and the ever present bad guys have been quick to fill the need. What we are seeing is some of these guys previously involved in pill mills are now involved in heroin distribution and sales which is by far more deadly and destructive, at least you know what your getting when you pop an oxy 30, these kids have no idea what the heroin is cut with and unfortunately the Mexican cartels have been cutting it with fentanyl in an effort to gain market share. We all know the deadly consequences of their marketing strategy....

Most of you probably know of Bill aka Limey from the RD. He's also done some great charts for the Informer mag where he lists early members of different families.

He's got a blog now where he puts up the same type of lists;

http://mafiamembershipcharts.blogspot.it/search/label/Tampa

LoScalzo Vincent Salvatoreb.1937 Boss
Amorelli-Antonio b.1947 Sol
Belitto-Giuseppe Joe Baldy Sol Miami
Chiusano-Julius b.1948 Sol Miami
Napoli-Michael b.1951 Sol
Scarola-Frederick* b.1942 Sol
Silvestri-John* Sol
Spitaleri-Joseph* Sol

Remember reading that what's left of Florida mob joined the Gambino's, highly doubt it though.

Thank you for the warm welcome and information gentleman, I have always been interested in the mob and just recently found this site. Is there anyone here that's connected or knows people who are?

Is it still true that they only let Italians be made men or has that rule changed?

Also who would you guys say I would be best off talking to? If it makes a difference at all I'm of Cuban decendance and I'm too young to be a cop so I can't see them being worried about that really. I also have a clean criminal record. I'm new to all this so could use all the help I can get, if anyone would like to talk in private feel free to pm me or ask for my email so we can communicate.

I don't really think this is a recruitment type of site. But good luck on your quest

So you want to join the mob?

I'm not making fun of you, son. But do yourself a favor and leave stuff like that off the board. Trust me, it won't end well here. It never does.

And if you don't mind some advice from a not so young guy, go back to school and get a job. It's over.

And welcome to the board .

In this day and age, it will be a short career. But on the upside, you could always write a book from prison. You might make the next goodfellas script..

James Valenti, Sal Carollo, and Frank Albano are still around

Julius Chisuano is a Gambino guy

Belitto, Scarola, Silvestri, and Spitaleri were associates

JOhn Mamone is also made, though in WITSEC now I believe

I'm a little bit brighter than to right about it online if I was looking to join the mob. Some info never hurts though.

I'm more interested in how they run their businesses, or used to, not the illegal ones so much as the legal ones such as real estate and things like that.

A bit of mentoring is more what I'm looking for, good ways to make money. From what I understand the smart mobsters got out of the illegal side of things and run pretty successful businesses here. I'm a business person, and no I don't mind advice pizzaboy and thank you for thinking of my well being, however I'm not a 9-5 job type of person. Doesn't have to be mobsters either, if any succesful business owners would like to teach a few things to a younger guy I'd appreciate that too. And I've asked for advice on other sites as well, but the mob tends to be pretty connected and that always helps with business which is why I thought it would be a good idea to talk to some of them.

But if I'm wrong then by all means let me know, I dont mind, if I knew the answers I wouldn't be asking. The part about my nationality is because I know that a lot of the old school families as well as a lot of people in general don't take too kindly to certain groups of people or people who aren't Italian.

Advice from a CPA:
Buy low, sell high, and keep your customers happy. Find a good bookkeeper and keep a close eye on him/her.

Good advice.

And even if you're not a "9 to 5" type of guy, you're much better off in business school (even a few night classes) than with those guys .

I am going to business school, although I had to stop for a semester or two now to do some other things, I'm also planning on taking real estate and stock market classes.

Buy what though? Any recommendations as to where to start? I've done some real estate and that seems to pay off pretty well but usually takes some time to get a good deal especially when I don't have a brokers license which is why I'm looking to get one soon. Also I'm not a millionaire and buying a house to flip or rent takes up a lot of cash which leaves me unable to invest in other things, I've heard that the best way is to have a balanced folder of investments in a few areas rather than just one.

As for the bookkeeping part I have that covered at least for now since my father and uncle I believe as well are accountants and they wouldn't steal from me.

The Bonannos and Colombos have also had activity down there in recent years. Not so much the Luccheses. But it's safe to say all the NY families have some presence there, more or less. Eurasian OC is currently the FBI's #1 OC priority in Miami/South Florida right now.

And it should be .

I gotta switch my book then, my guy a weird European, you can always tell by their cloths if they are an "eastern bloc" guy. They love the labels SPLASHED across the cloths. Funny shoes too.

Well, I see that Miami is listed as your location. I live up in Delray part time now. But my parents had a place in Sunny Isles years ago and I've kept in touch with that area. And there are a lot of Bukharians and other Russian offshoots there now doing some shy business. And look for the Bukharians to set up shop in the barbershops, as both a legitimate means of income, and as a front. Just like they've done over here in Rego Park and Forest Hills .

Delray nice, plenty of action if you want, also can find quiet if that's your thing. I'm in Key Biscayne thru next April. Work at Port of Miami last couple years. My guy is a Albanian I think, just didn't want to use the guy everyone else got at work. He goes down there all done and a year away from a check a month I don't need that! My guy good, always pays on time, let's less than a G roll over, smells like shit though!

What are the typical rackets the Bukharians run?

Over here the so-called "Russian mafia" are in fact almost all Georgians. Some are regular Georgians, some are Yezidi Kurds, some are Georgian Jews,...but they all come from Georgia, all belonging to either one of the two large criminal organizations in that country (the "Tbilisi" and the "Kutaisi"). Their rackets: the usual- drugs, weapons, prostitution, fraud, armed robbery, burglary, car theft,... The media really has a thing for ominously labeling all former Soviet crime groups as "The Russians"

Bro!

Fill out a mob application with at least 3 reputable references and we will get back to you within 5 business days!

Frankly, I don't think they're that organized that you can say "rackets." And I've only heard that they've started to head for North Miami Beach in droves, so I haven't seen anything firsthand.

Furthermore, I just want to add that they're mostly hardworking people. But like any other immigrant group, you're going to have a few crooks. Up here the Bukharians are all over Rego Park and Forest Hills. Mostly in the nice apartment buildings from 113th down to Yellowstone, and along the Grand Central Parkway.

From what I've seen and heard, they like to lend money. And like a lot of the Eastern European groups, they're into the tech stuff (which is way over my head). And as I posted in a previous thread, a lot of the men cut hair (which of course is perfectly legal).

If you're ever in New York and you want to get an idea just how many of them are in Queens today, head out to Forest Hills on a Saturday just after Shabbos (they're VERY observant Jews), and you'll see them walking around in droves .

Thanks for the info PB.
I didn't even know what a Bukharian was until I read an article on that Mani Chulpayev guy. As a community they seem to have a good reputation. Unlike Moroccan and Georgian Jews, who have been described as clannish, vindictive and fierce.

All this talk about south florida...anyone know any places hiring? I'll move to the Keys in a heart beat!

The Keys aren't really considered "South Florida" for whatever reason? Never understood why, South Florida stops in South Dade County. Keys are just the Keys. Key West tough spot to make a living. Locals have there same people for years and seems like the new people have a tough go of it. Nice place to spend a few days though.

LaLou,

In order to get an interview you have to be an alcoholic on the run from the law from one of the northeast states and be able to pass for either Ernest Hemingway or a woman in drag.

My Sister and her Husband have lived in Marathon since 1988, they love it. There is plenty of work if you have experience in the deep sea fishing and hospitality trades.

Good post. I'll just add that, if you're working in the hospitality trades on Key West, you probably won't be able to afford to live there.

Unless you're heading down with a pension, as a youngish guy in his late '40s or so, freshly retired from civil service. Then it's a home run. You take a bartenders job and live nice. But 90 percent of the service employees working on Key West live on Stock Island or Boca Chica.

The Bukharians are harmless in queens, been around them my whole life

They act tough , and walk around in packs, but the second a black kid gets off the E train from Jamaica they run home to mommy

There are articles about them deep in health insurance scams tho a quick google search will show you

They're also very religious. Like I said in my post, they're mostly hardworking and decent people. Tech stuff, insurance scams, nothing too heavy. A few rotten apples and all that.

Anyone know what the deal was with Roberto Settineri?

ya that was kind of an interesting case. I Was just the other day watching an American Greed episode that went into the case of the guy that help set up Settineri. the guy(i think his name was Rothstein) got caught running a billion dollar ponzi scheme and he set up Settineri on a money laundering charge to try and score some points with the feds, i don't think it helped him to much. anyway the feds tried to make Settineri sound like some sort of "intermediary" between the sicilians and the gambinos. he got sentenced to 4 years back in 2010 so maybe he is out.

Here is the Feds press release Del,

Settineri Sentenced on Money Laundering Charge
U.S. Attorney’s Office
November 03, 2010

Southern District of Florida
(313) 226-9100
Wifredo A. Ferrer, United States Attorney for the Southern District of Florida; Lanny A. Breuer, Assistant Attorney General of the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice; and John V. Gilles, Special Agent in Charge, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Miami Field Office, announced that defendant Roberto Settineri, 42, of Miami Beach, was sentenced today by U.S. District Court Judge James I. Cohn. Settineri was sentenced to 48 months in prison, to be followed by two years of supervised release. Settineri had previously pled guilty to a one count superseding information charging him with conspiracy to commit money laundering.

According to the information and statements made during the plea hearing, Settineri admitted to conspiring with others to launder $10 million of funds and conceal assets represented to be the proceeds of a large-scale fraudulent scheme. The initial investigation was part of a joint U.S. and Italian law enforcement action.

U.S. Attorney Wifredo A. Ferrer stated, “This money laundering prosecution was possible thanks to the outstanding cooperation between federal, state, and international law enforcement.”

John V. Gillies, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Miami Office, added, “With the cooperation of our domestic and international partners, the fight against crime has no boundaries.”

Mr. Ferrer commended the investigative efforts of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Broward Sheriff’s Office, the Miami-Dade Police Department, the Italian Ministries of the Interior and Justice, and the Italian National Police as well as the assistance provided by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The Criminal Division’s Office of International Affairs and the FBI legal attaché office in Rome provided assistance in this case. The case was prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorney Cynthia Stone and Criminal Division Trial Attorney Margaret Honrath of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section. Assistance was also provided by Assistant U.S. Attorney Alison Lehr.

A copy of this press release may be found on the website of the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida at www.usdoj.gov/usao/fls. Related court documents and information may be found on the website of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida at www.flsd.uscourts.gov or http://pacer.flsd.uscourts.gov.
http://www.fbi.gov/miami/press-releases/2010/mm110310.htm

I found this video on the arrest of Settineri:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqzbgfQqcjM

Thanks Bean, good stuff.

Great find bean.

I've got the Deep Sea fishing Down Pact!

Sorry to have gotten off topic!

Nice Mahi!! We do not get the big ones off St. Pete. Mostly chicken dolphin. We make up for it with huge grouper and kings.

Oh, yeah. The biggest grouper I ever saw in my life was off Longboat Key. A behemoth. They're great eating, too .

Good ole south Louisiana Dauphin, caught a bunch of Tuna also

Off topic, LaLou. But is grouper a popular men item in your neck of the woods?

I'm in Florida quite a bit, and I think it's the most common fish in restaurants, and food trucks, and bars, and everywhere else .

PB, You can get it at all the restaurants around here with Dauphin and Snapper, but when we go out 80-100 Miles we are trolling for Tuna, Dauphin, Amberjack, Ling and Triple Tail, more of mid level fish.

The Snapper and Grouper are more concentrated around the rigs so what they do is attach a heavier weight to the bait to drop it quicker next to the rigs so the Barracudas and Bonito don't grab them and once it hits bottom your either pulling up a Snapper or Grouper. Still a fun fight, just by different means.

Wow! This is ridiculous. Go find some forum for fishing to talk about this shit. You guys suck.

I give it til the end of this week before SC gives you the boot out the door.

Don't give him what he wants, LaLou. Don't feed the trolls.

Here, I'll steer it back.

Al Scaglione, Trafficante crime family soldier, owned a fishing camp in Ruskin (south of Tampa, on the east side of Tampa Bay).

Yeah welcome to the boards Scott

The troll is gone. The only positive thing he did here was to live up to his screen name.

Anyone know if this guy is related to anyone in Philly?

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2014-08...gleader-clinics

You know I don't really follow Philly. But I'll just point out that Licata is a fairly common surname among Sicilians in America, especially in the Northeast. I even know a Calabrian or two with that last name .

Thanks PB

Sure thing. I haven't seen you in a while. Post some more!

damn, the florida keys is the gay capital of america. thats f#cked up.

Not as F*cked up as you claiming to be in the know and selling dope with bikers in Philly.

And for the record, I'm not gay, my fiancee has retired family down there. Any more baiting you wanna try?

Is it true that any family that's doing business in florida have to kickup to what's left of the trafficante family?

No.

Defo not true , if it was vincent loscalzo wouldn't have a full time job at a country club

So what destroyed that organization? Was loscalzo that bad of a don?

Don't think it was about him being bad at the job there was just nothing to be boss over really.

There weren't enough Italian immigrants in Florida to sustain a Florida borne Mafia family for more than a generation of two. And I'm not talking about the wiseguys from the Northeast who adopt Florida as a second home. I'm talking about homegrown guys.