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Legendary sit downs? #773742
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Were there ever any legendary sit downs that people might not know about? Also check out my post in the general discussion forum

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Revis, Here is very well known sit down.

The Apalachin Meeting was a historic summit of the American mafia held on November 14, 1957 at the home of mobster Joseph "Joe the Barber" Barbara in Apalachin, New York.


It was attended by roughly 100 mafia crime bosses from the United States, Canada and Italy. Expensive cars with license plates from around the country aroused the curiosity of the local and state law enforcement, who raided the meeting, causing mafiosi to flee into the woods and the surrounding area of the Apalachin estate. Over 60 underworld bosses were detained and indicted due to the disastrous meeting.



Joseph "The Barber" Barbara - Northeastern Barbara Family Boss and Summit host, Apalachin, N.Y.
Rosario "Russell" Bufalino - Northeastern Family Underboss and Summit organizer (Kingston, Pennsylvania, future Northeastern Boss)
Dominick Alaimo - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Pittston, Pennsylvania)
Angelo J. Sciandra - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Pittston, Pennsylvania)
Ignatius Cannone - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Endwell, N.Y.)
Anthony "The Gov" Guarnieri - Northeastern Barbara Family Soldier (Johnston City, N.Y., future Caporegime)
James "Dave" Ostico - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Pittston, Pennsylvania, future Underboss)
Pasquale "Patsy" Turrigiano - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Endicott, N.Y.)
Emanuel "Manny" Zicari - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Endicott, N.Y., Barbara's bottling plant manager)
Salvatore "Sam" Monachino - Northeastern Barbera Family Soldier (Auburn, N.Y.)
Pasquale "Patsy" Monachino - Northeastern Barbara Family Soldier (Auburn, N.Y.)
Pasquale "Patsy" Sciortino - Northeastern Barbara Family Soldier (Auburn, N.Y.)
Bartolo "Bart" Guccia - Northeastern Barbara Family Associate (Endicott, N.Y., Barbara estate overseer and handyman)
Joseph "Joe Bananas" Bonanno - N.Y. Bonanno Family Boss (Long Island, N.Y., present Commission chairman, 1951-64)
Giovanni "John" Bonventre - N.Y. Bonanno Family Caporegime (Brooklyn, N.Y., former Underboss, semi-retired in Sicily) (Brooklyn, N.Y.)
Anthony "Tony" Riela - N.Y. Bonanno Family Caporegime (West Orange, N.J., faction leader)
Natale "Joe Diamonds" Evola - N.Y. Bonanno Family Caporegime (Brooklyn, N.Y., future Boss)
Vito "Don Vito" Genovese - N.Y. Genovese Family Boss (Atlantic Highlands, N.J.)
Gerardo "Jerry" Catena - N.Y. Genovese Family Underboss (Orange, N.J., faction leader)
Michele "Big Mike" Miranda - N.Y. Genovese Family Consigliere (Forest Hills, N.Y.)
Salvatore "Charles" Chiri - N.Y. Genovese Family Caporegime (Bergen, N.J., faction leader)
Carlo "Don Carlo" Gambino - N.Y. Gambino Family Boss (Brooklyn, N.Y.)
Joseph "Staten Island Joe" Riccobono - N.Y. Gambino Family Consigliere (Staten Island, N.Y.)
Paul "Big Paul" Castellano - N.Y. Gambino Family Caporegime (Brooklyn, N.Y., future Boss)
Carmine "The Doctor" Lombardozzi - N.Y. Gambino Family Caporegime (Brooklyn, N.Y.)
Armand "Tommy" Rava - N.Y. Gambino Family Caporegime (Brooklyn, N.Y., Anastasia loyalist, killed soon after Apalachin)
Vincent "Nunzio" Rao - N.Y. Lucchese Family Consigliere (Yonkers, N.Y.)
Giovanni "Big John" Ormento - N.Y. Lucchese Family Caporegime (Lido Beach, N.Y.)
Joseph "Joe Palisades" Rosato - N.Y. Lucchese Family Caporegime (Jackson Heights, N.Y.)
Joseph "Don Peppino" Profaci - N.Y. Profaci Family Boss (Long Island, N.Y.)
Joseph "Fat Joe/Joe Malyak" Magliocco - N.Y. Profaci Family Underboss (East Islip, N.Y., successor to Profaci)
Salvatore "Sam" Tornabe - N.Y. Profaci Family Caporegime (New York, N.Y., died December 30, 1957)
Frank Majuri - N.J. DeCavalcante Family Underboss (Elizabeth, N.J., Amari regime Underboss, stepped down May 1957, then Underboss in DeCavalcante regime)
Louis "Fat Lou" LaRasso - N.J. DeCavalcante Family Underboss (Linden, N.J., Delmore regime Underboss as of May, 1957)
John C. Montana - Buffalo Magaddino Family Underboss (Olean, N.Y., He was the #2 man in the crime family during Magaddino's regime. Montana was put on the shelf by Magaddino around 1958, Magaddino felt betrayed by Montana who wanted to step down after all the publicity from Apalachin)
Antonino "Nino" Magaddino - Buffalo Magaddino Family Caporegime (Niagara Falls, N.Y., future Consigliere)
Rosario "Roy" Carlisi - Buffalo Magaddino Family Caporegime (Buffalo, N.Y., brother of future Chicago Outfit Boss Sam "Wings" Carlisi)
James "Jimmy" LaDuca - Buffalo Magaddino Family Caporegime (Lewiston, N.Y., Magaddino son in law)
Samuel "Sam" Lagattuta - Buffalo Magaddino Family Caporegime (Buffalo, N.Y.)
Dominick D'Agostino - Buffalo Magaddino Family Caporegime (Niagara Falls, N.Y.)
Frank Valenti - Rochester Valenti Family Underboss (Rochester, N.Y., Pittsburgh Family Soldier)
Constenze "Stanley" Valenti - Rochester Valenti Family Boss (Rochester, N.Y., Pittsburgh Family Soldier)
Joseph Falcone - Buffalo or Rochester Family Capo (Utica, N.Y., faction leader)
Salvatore Falcone - Buffalo or Rochester Family Soldier (Utica, N.Y., Joseph's brother)
Rosario "Roy" Mancuso - Buffalo or Rochester Family Soldier (Utica, N.Y.)
Michael "Mike" Genovese - Pittsburgh LaRocca Family Caporegime (Gibsonia, Pennsylvania, future Boss)
Gabriel "Kelly" Mannarino - Pittsburgh LaRocca Family Caporegime (New Kensington, Pennsylvania, future Underboss)
Joseph "Joe" Ida - Philadelphia Bruno Family Boss (Highland Park, N.J., fled to Sicily in 1957 after Apalachin, leaving Antonio "Mr. Miggs" Polina as Acting Boss. Stepped down as Boss in 1959 due to publicity, retired to Sicily leaving Angelo Bruno as his successor)
Dominick Olivetto - Philadelphia Bruno Family Underboss (Camden, N.J., faction leader, stepped down 1959 for new regime)
John Scalish - Cleveland Scalish Family Boss (Cleveland, Ohio)
John DeMarco - Cleveland Scalish Family Consigliere (Shaker Heights, Ohio)
Frank "The Cheeseman" Cucchiara - New England Patriarca Family Consigliere (Boston, Massachusetts, representative of Raymond Patriarca Sr., Charlie "Lucky" Luciano and Frank "The Prime Minister" Costello at Summit)
Frank Zito - Springfield, Illinois Zito Family Boss (Chicago Outfit Caporegime)
Louis Santo Trafficante Jr. - Tampa Trafficante Family Boss (moved to Havana in 1946, Cuban operations overseer for the families, including casino and narcotics operations. Most powerful boss in Cuba)
Joseph "Joe" Civello - Dallas Civello Family Boss (New Orleans Family caporegime, representative of New Orleans Boss Carlos "Little Man" Marcello. Dallas, Texas)
John Francis Colletti - Dallas Civello Family member (Dallas, Texas)
James "Black Jim" Colletti - Colorado Colletti Family Boss (Pueblo, Colorado)
Frank DeSimone - Los Angeles Dragna Family Boss (Los Angeles, California, also lawyer and house council for Family members)
Simone Scozzari Los Angeles Dragna Family Underboss (San Gabriel, California, came under law enforcement scrutiny after Apalachin. Deported to Italy in 1963)

Mafiosi suspected of attending Apalachin Summit 14 November 1957
Carmine "Lilo" Galante - Bonanno Family Underboss
Carmine Galante was one of the most important attendees at the Palermo, Sicily, Hotel des Palmes Summit the past October 14-October 17 and would be important to the Apalachin Summit being that he was the U.S. La Cosa Nostra's Montreal "representation" for all narcotics operations being directed through the port city. Identified as a guest staying at the estate by Joe Barbara's housekeeper. Galante had also been stopped and arrested by Pennsylvania police on October 17, 1956, allegedly coming from a meeting at Barbara's estate.
Frank "Frank Carrol" Garofalo - Former Bonanno Family Underboss
Frank Garofalo was semi-retired in Sicily as of 1956 and came back specifically for the Apalachin Summit, having been one of the attendees at the Palermo, Sicily-Hotel des Palmes Summit the past October 14-October 17 and would most certainly brief the Bosses on the outcome of the Palermo Summit. Garofalo was registered at a local motel.
Gaspar "Gasparino" DiGregorio - Bonanno Family Caporegime
Brother-in-law of Buffalo Family Boss Stefano Magaddino, registered at local motel.
Joseph "Joe Bandy" Biondo - Gambino Family Underboss
Former Albert Anastasia Consigliere, conspired to kill Anastasia with Carlo Gambino and Joseph Riccobono. Expected to explain the reasons for the Anastasia hit and the current situation between the new Anastasia/Gambino Family hierarchy and the faction still loyal to Anastasia.
Gaetano "Tommy Brown" Lucchese and Stefano "Steve" LaSalle- Lucchese Family Boss and Underboss
1st and 2nd in command, Lucchese and his allies supported Carlo Gambino and his assassination of Albert Anastasia and ascension to Boss of the Family.
Aniello "Niel" Migliore - Lucchese's top aide and was in a car accident driving through Binghamton the next day, November 15. He was most likely on his way to pick up Lucchese and LaSalle.
Stefano "The Undertaker" Magaddino - Buffalo Magaddino Family Boss
Commission member who helped Vito Genovese arrange the Summit at Barbara's house, his clothes contained his name in them when they were found in a car in Joseph Barbara's barn.
Salvatore "Momo" Giancana and Frank "Strongy" Ferraro - Chicago Outfit Boss and Underboss
1st and 2nd in command, Sam Giancana was a Commission member and had just recently been promoted to Boss of the Outfit by former Boss and new Consigliere, Anthony "Joe Batters" Accardo. Giancana would take this opportunity to meet with all the other Family Bosses and introduce his new Underboss, Ferraro. Giancana was overheard just days after the Summit on an FBI wire talking to Stefano "The Undertaker" Magaddino about "our guys being caught" and "that it wouldn't have happened in Chicago, we have a whole county locked up tight". Magaddino cowardly replied "you bet it wouldn't have Sam".
Joseph "Joe Z." Zerilli and Anthony "Tony Jack" Giacalone - Detroit Partnership Boss and Lt./Capo.
Joe Zerilli was not yet at the Barbara estate, he was late. he most likely noticed the roadblock on the way to the meeting or was still at the motel and heard what happened on the radio. He used his driver’s license to rent a car in the Binghamton area and used it to get home on November 14, 1957.
Nicholas "Nick" Civella and Joseph Filardo - Kansas City Civella Family Boss and Capo
They were identified by a local business owner as the two men who used his phone to call a taxi.
James "Jimmy the Hat" Lanza- San Francisco Abati/Lanza Underboss
2nd in command to Boss Michael Abati who at the time was fighting a deportation order, Lanza was registered at a local motel with San Jose Family Underboss, Joseph Cerrito. Mike Abati was deported on July 8, 1961. Lanza becomes his successor and the Family's most famous Boss.
John Sebastian "John LaRock" LaRocca - Pittsburgh LaRocca Family Boss
Registered at the local Arlington Motel with his 2 Capos, Michael Genovese and Gabriel "Kelly" Mannarino, their bills charged to Barbara's Canada Dry Bottling Company.
Joseph "Joe" Cerrito- San Jose Cerrito Family Underboss
2nd in command to Boss Onofrio Sciortino who was ill, Cerrito was registered at a local motel with San Francisco Boss, James Lanza. Joe Cerrito becomes Boss of the Family after Sciortino's death in 1959.
Frank "Frankie Bal" Balistrieri - Milwaukee Balistrieri Underboss
2nd in command, registered at a local motel. Family Boss, John Aloito was grooming his son in law Frank Balistrieri as his successor, Balistrieri uses the Apalachin Summit to introduce himself to all the Bosses from across the United States. In 1961 Aloito retires so Balistrieri can assume the top position. Frank "Frankie Bal" Balistrieri becomes Milwaukee's most famous underworld Boss.
Joseph Zammuto - Rockford, Illinois Musso/Zammuto Family Underboss
2nd in command to Boss Antonio Musso who was ill, Zammuto was registered at a local motel. Tony Musso dies 1958 and Joe Zammuto becomes Boss of the Family. It is now called the Zammuto Family. The Rockford Family has always been a Chicago Outfit faction.
Charles "Curly" Montana - Cleveland Scalish Family Caporegime
Curly Montana is registered at a local motel with Boss John Scalish.
Joseph "Joe" Campisi - Dallas Civello Family Underboss
2nd in command, Joe Campisi is registered at a local motel with Boss Joe Civello, who was detained at Barbara's estate. Joe Campisi became the Family Boss after Joe Civello retires to Florida in 1968. Civello dies in 1970.
Vincenzo "Vince" Colletti - Denver Colletti Family Underboss
2nd in command, Vincenzo is James "Black Jim" Colletti's brother. Vincenzo is registered with James at a local motel, he escapes the police at Barbara's estate, but his brother James is picked up walking down a road near the estate.
Alfred "Al" Angelicola - New Jersey area La Cosa Nostra member
Al Angelicola is registered at a local motel with other known mafiosi, his Family affiliation is unknown.
Luigi "Louis" Greco and Giuseppe "Pep" Cotroni - Montreal Cotroni Family Underboss and Caporegime
Louis Greco was a Montreal Sicilian who was 2nd in command to Calabrian Boss Vic "The Egg" Cotroni. In 1953 Greco and his top aide Frank Petrula go to Sicily to arrange heroin shipments with Charlie "Lucky" Luciano. Giuseppe "Pep" Cotroni was the brother of Boss Vic Cotroni and the Lt. in charge of narcotics operations for the Family. The Montreal Family was considered the Bonanno Family Canadian Faction. Joe Bonanno had just returned from the U.S.-Sicilian La Cosa Nostra Summit in Palermo, Sicily at the Hotel des Palmes on October 14-October 17, 1957. One of the topics to be discussed at Apalachin was about the Sicilians taking control of the importation of narcotics while the U.S. La Cosa Nostra would handle wholesale distribution . Montreal is the North American transit way for narcotics shipments into the U.S., that's why Montreal had representatives at the Apalachin Summit.
Giuseppe "Don Giuseppe" Settacase - Agrigento, Sicily Capo-familglia and future Capo-provincia (provincial Boss) in Sicilian Cupola (Commission).
Don Giuseppe Settacase was sent over as a representative of the Sicilian La Cosa Nostra Clans wishing to export narcotics to the United States. He was present at the Palermo, Sicily Summit on 14 October-17, 1957 and was highly respected as a mediator. Don Giuseppe Settacase mentor to the most powerful and wealthy Sicilian Clans in the Agrigento province and Sicilian La Cosa Nostra, the Siculiana-Caruana-[BadWord] Family and the Cattolica Eraclea-Rizzuto Family, who would become superpowers in the global narcotics and money laundering trade and rule mafia empires. After the Apalachin Summit, both the Canadian and Sicilian La Cosa Nostra were heard talking on R.C.M.P. and FBI wiretaps about how embarrassed the American La Cosa Nostra looked to their peers for the screw up at Apalachin

http://www.greaterowego.com/apalachin/guests.html

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I knew about Appalachian. Didn't know that that many people were there exactly. I was looking for more low profile sit downs that I might not know about. For instance, I learned not too long ago that john gotti and mike franzese had a sit down and franzese came out on top apparently according to him

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The least known about and in my opinion the most interesting sitdown...These guys, at this time, ran the country..

http://www.allanrmay.com/La_Stella_Restaurant.html

Plus, there's a seating chart floating around the web somewhere...


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Not a whole lot of details in the article. I would imagine that the NYC families didn't have any major bosses present or the article would have mentioned them. Gotti was under constant surveillance at the time and could not have gone to Florida unnoticed at this time period. Chin hardly ever left Greenwich Village. I assume that the Genovese and Gambinos just had their guys in Florida talk to the Chicago guys.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1989-...joseph-ferriola


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Chicago Outfit meeting in 1972.Thanks to GaryMartin for posting this a while ago

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...7364#Post717364


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Originally Posted By: azguy
The least known about and in my opinion the most interesting sitdown...These guys, at this time, ran the country..

http://www.allanrmay.com/La_Stella_Restaurant.html

Plus, there's a seating chart floating around the web somewhere...


ya i agree "little appalachin" is hardly ever talked about, heres that seating chart you mentioned-



if u go to the link theres a picture of Marcello and Trafficante and some other guys when they went back to dinner to La Stellas after they got out of jail-


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/mob-bigs-met-crown-king-run-roaches-article-1.1243347


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Maybe one of the biggest !

Notice the date, Jan. 1964. Some Outfit historians say the meeting took place in Dec. '63, but reporters didn't get the information until Jan.

http://www.midwestmafia.com/014.htm

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Castellano and Dellacroce over who will be the next boss in the Gambino family. Cesare Bonventre and Phil Rastelli over Bonventre holding associates and made members in other families for ransom. Accardo, Bonanno, and Ricca over who will represent the California crime families on the commission, Gaetano Gagliano represent Los Angeles till he stepped down as boss in the Lucchese crime family and Bonanno had always represented San Jose. Giancana and Anastasia over Frank Scalise. Chicago, Genovese and Lucchese crime families over the man responsible for the scar on Al Capone's face. Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, and New York over Las Vegas Casino's when gambling became legal in Atlantic City. Bonanno, Buffalo, and Detroit crime families over territories in Canada.


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giancana and anastasia had a beef, any one knows about this ?

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I'm a little late on this post , but this is an intriging one ! I guess Anastasia had more commission power and influence .BONNANO got some of california , but the outfit got the lion share {Hollywood} so bonventre got it because he was a loose canon ... heard he really didn't give a f*ck bout nobody in the family said , even higher ups .

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that's a cool chart Gambino wasn't that heavy at that time guess with Genovese in jail he put his guy at the head of the table if you ever read the wire mob fitzy and co they were friends with dom alongi who I think was cousins to the n.o. people who were beefing about who should be boss, think dom alongi was only a soldier probably then. why wasn't luchese there? Gambino used Colombo as a puppet then killed him wat a snake. only other sitdowns we read about in the books by rats. Michael franses loves to talk about his sitdown with gotti over a flea market.

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mexico just choked soccer fixed.

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that's why I still read about the mafia its like real life game of thrones. these guys were treachous. now you got carmine perisco been in jail 30yrs got his kid doing life nephew just got 12yrs nother son who got realestate all over ny still goin at it even read a grand kids are in the shit.

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seems the Colombo as small as they are, persico made them go legit.there in the unions, trucks, wall st.

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If BONNANO had CANADA under his wing ... that's a whole country ! just imagine the money he made.

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Bonnano pretty much did have Canada with the help of Galante. As to your question about Giancana having a beef with Anastasia over Scalise, Bill Bonanno gives an account of it in his last book, claiming it was over Scalise selling membership, but the rumor is that Scalise had a few soldiers in the gambino crime family moving drugs through Chicago as a pipeline without any permission. One of those involved was Salvatore Maugeri of San Francisco.


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Originally Posted By: pmac
that's a cool chart Gambino wasn't that heavy at that time guess with Genovese in jail he put his guy at the head of the table if you ever read the wire mob fitzy and co they were friends with dom alongi who I think was cousins to the n.o. people who were beefing about who should be boss, think dom alongi was only a soldier probably then. why wasn't luchese there? Gambino used Colombo as a puppet then killed him wat a snake. only other sitdowns we read about in the books by rats. Michael franses loves to talk about his sitdown with gotti over a flea market.


Seating positions meant nothing. Gambino was the most powerful guy at the table, no question. You could argue Dellacroce was 2nd, yet he was at the bottom of the table.

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See the Apalachin meeting, would that have been conducted in English or Italian?


British is best....
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Were there ever any legendary sit downs that people might not know about?


One time it took Gotti 3 hours to pinch a loaf. He finished just in time to walk outside and see someone get popped in front of Spark's steakhouse.

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The Atlantic City Conference held between 13–16 May 1929 was a historic summit of leaders of organized crime in the United States. It is considered by most crime historians to be the earliest organized crime summit held in the US. The conference had a major impact on the future direction of the criminal underworld and it held more importance and significance than the Havana Conference of 1946 and the Apalachin meeting of 1957. It also represented the first concrete move toward a National Crime Syndicate.

Details about the conference are difficult to verify.[3] However, it is thought that crime leaders at the conference allegedly discussed the violent bootleg wars in New York and Chicago and how to avoid them in the future, diversification and investment into legal liquor ventures, expansion of illegal operations to offset profit loss from the probable repeal of Prohibition, and reorganization and consolidation of the underworld into a National Crime Syndicate.

Atlantic City delegates[edit]
The terms capo and consigliere were not used until Salvatore Maranzano labeled the Italian underworld Cosa Nostra in 1931; the terms lieutenant and advisor were more common at the time, except with the Maranzano Family, (future Bonanno crime family), which had already been following the strict Cosa Nostra traditions of their native Sicily. The position of consigliere did not exist until Charlie "Lucky" Luciano became the defacto first amongst equals in La Cosa Nostra and added the position to the Family hierarchy in 1931, when he formed the Commission.

Underworld members, city or delegation they represented and their rank at time of conference:

Atlantic City:

Enoch "Nucky" Johnson - South Jersey/Atlantic City boss/host
New York/New Jersey:

John "The Fox" Torrio - Former Chicago Torrio/Capone Gang boss/New York advisor
Salvatore "Charlie Lucky" Luciano - Masseria Family underboss/New York
Frank "The Prime Minister" Costello - Masseria Family Lt./capo/New York
Giuseppe "Joe Adonis" Doto - Masseria Family Lt./capo/New York
Vito Genovese - Masseria Family Lt./capo/New York
Quarico Moretti - Masseria family Lt./capo/New Jersey
Vincent Mangano - D'Aquila/Mineo Family Lt./capo/New York
Frank Scalise - D'Aquila Mineo Family Lt./capo/New York
Albert Anastasia - D'Aquila/Mineo Family Lt./capo/New York
Gaetano "Tommy Brown" Lucchese - Riena Family Lt./capo/New York
Meyer "The Brain" Lansky - Bugs & Meyer Mob boss/New York
Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel - Bugs & Meyer Mob boss/New York
Louis Buchalter - Buchalter/Shapiro Gang boss/New York
Jacob Shapiro - Buchalter/Shapiro Gang boss/New York
Dutch Schultz - Schultz Gang boss/New York
Abner Zwillman - North Jersey/Zwillman Gang boss/New Jersey
Owney Madden - Irish Combine boss/New York[5]
Frank Erickson - former Rothstein Lt./Costello associate/New York
Gaetano Gagliano - Riena Family underboss/ New York[6]
Carlo Gambino - D'Aquila/Mineo Family Lt./capo/New York[7]
Chicago:

Alphonse "Scarface" Capone - South Side/Capone Gang boss/Chicago
Frank "The Enforcer" Nitti - South Side/Capone Gang Lt./capo/Chicago
Jake Guzik - South Side/Capone Gang Lt./capo/Chicago
Frank "Frank Cline" Rio - South Side/Capone bodyguard/Chicago
Frank McErlane - Saltis/McErlane Gang boss/Chicago
Philadelphia:

Irving Wexler - Jewish Mob boss/Philly
Max Hoff - Jewish Mob boss/Philly
Harry Stromberg - Jewish Mob boss/Philly
Irving Bitz - Jewish Mob boss/Philly
Charles Schwartz - Jewish Mob boss/Philly
Samuel Lazar Jewish Mob boss/Philly
Cleveland:

Morris Dalitz - Little Jewish Navy boss/Cleveland
Louis Rothkopf - Little Jewish Navy boss/Cleveland
Leo Berkowitz - Little Jewish Navy/Mayfield Road Mob associate/Cleveland[8]
Detroit:

William Joseph Bernstein - Purple Gang boss/Detroit (a.k.a. "Bill Bugs")
Abraham Bernstein - Purple Gang boss/Detroit
Kansas City:

Giovanni Lazia - Pendergast Machine/Balestrere Gang Lt./capo/Kansas City (a.k.a. Lazio)
Massachusetts:

Charles Solomon - Jewish Mob boss/Boston[9]
Frank "The Cheeseman" Cucchiara - Boston North End Gang/Buccola Family Lt.[10][11][12]
Frank "Bootsy" Morelli - Providence Morelli Gang boss.[13]
Florida:

Santo Trafficante Sr. - Senior Tampa Family Member/Tampa[14]
Louisiana:

Sylvestro Corallo - Matranga/Giacona Family Lt./capo/New Orleans[15]



The Havana Conference of 1946 was a historic meeting of United States Mafia and Cosa Nostra leaders in Havana, Cuba. Supposedly arranged by Charles "Lucky" Luciano, the conference was held to discuss important mob policies, rules, and business interests. The Havana Conference was attended by delegations representing crime families throughout the United States. The conference was held during the week of December 22, 1946 at the Hotel Nacional. The Havana Conference is considered to have been the most important mob summit since the Atlantic City Conference of 1929. Decisions made in Havana resonated throughout the US crime families for the ensuing decades.

Hosts[edit]
Charlie "Lucky" Luciano, former Luciano family boss, former chairman, co-founder and member of the Commission. Luciano was living in Naples, Italy. After the meeting he was named America's boss of bosses.
Meyer "The Little Man" Lansky, Jewish Syndicate boss, a top financial and gambling operations advisor for the Italian mafia in America and casino operations front man (Las Vegas, Cuba, Bahamas)
New York-New Jersey Delegation[edit]
Frank "The Prime Minister" Costello, Luciano family boss, Commission member.
Quarico "Willie Moore" Moretti, Luciano Family underboss.
Albert "The Mad Hatter" Anastasia, Mangano Family underboss and future boss.
Joseph "Joe Bananas" Bonanno, Bonanno Family boss, charter Commission member.
Gaetano "Tommy Brown" Lucchese, Gagliano Family underboss and future boss.
Giuseppe "The Old Man" Profaci, Profaci Family boss, charter Commission member.
Giuseppe "Fat Joe" Magliocco, Profaci Family underboss.
Vito "Don Vito" Genovese, Luciano Family caporegime and future boss.
Giuseppe "Joe Adonis" Doto, Luciano Family caporegime.
Anthony "Little Augie Pisano" Carfano, Luciano Family caporegime.
Michele "Big Mike" Miranda, Luciano Family caporegime and future consigliere.
Chicago Delegation[edit]
Anthony "Joe Batters" Accardo, Chicago Outfit boss, Commission member.
Charles "Trigger Happy" Fischetti, Chicago Outfit consigliere.
Sam Giancana, Chicago Outfit front boss
Buffalo Delegation[edit]
Stefano "The Undertaker" Magaddino, Buffalo Family boss, charter Commission member.
New Orleans Delegation[edit]
Carlos "Little Man" Marcello, New Orleans Family boss (some mob historians dispute his position at this time).
Tampa Delegation[edit]
Santo "Louie Santos" Trafficante Jr., Tampa Family caporegime, moved to Havana in 1946 to oversee La Cosa Nostra and Tampa Family casino and business interests, future Tampa Family boss.
Jewish Syndicate Delegation[edit]
Abner "Longy" Zwillman, New Jersey Jewish Syndicate boss, National Syndicate Commission member.
Morris "Moe" Dalitz, Cleveland Jewish Syndicate boss, casino front man (Desert Inn, Las Vegas)
Joseph "Doc" Stacher, New Jersey Jewish Syndicate boss, casino front man (Sands Hotel, Las Vegas)
Philip "Dandy Phil" Kastel, Jewish Syndicate boss, Frank Costello's Louisiana slots operations and Tropicana Casino, Las Vegas partner.

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The Apalachin Meeting was a historic summit of the American Mafia held at the home of mobster Joseph "Joe the Barber" Barbara in Apalachin, New York on November 14, 1957.[1][2] Allegedly, the meeting was held to discuss various topics including loansharking, narcotics trafficking and gambling along with dividing the illegal operations controlled by the late Albert Anastasia.[3][4] An estimated 100 Mafiosi members from the United States, Canada and Italy are thought to have been at this meeting.[4]

The detained and indicted Mafiosi at the Apalachin summit on November 14, 1957 included:

Name Association Position Notes
Joseph "The Barber" Barbara NE Pennsylvania family Boss Summit host
Rosario "Russell" Bufalino Underboss Summit organizer
Dominick Alaimo Caporegime
Angelo J. Sciandra Caporegime
Ignatius Cannone Caporegime
Anthony "The Gov" Guarnieri Family Soldier
James "Dave" Ostico Caporegime
Pasquale "Patsy" Turrigiano Caporegime
Emanuel "Manny" Zicari Caporegime
Salvatore "Vicious" Trivalino Family Soldier
Pasquale "Patsy" Monachino Family Soldier
Pasquale "Patsy" Sciortino Family Soldier
Morris "Moe" Modugno Family Soldier
Bartolo "Bart" Guccia Family Associate Barbara estate overseer and handyman
Giovanni "John" Bonventre Bonanno crime family Caporegime Former Underboss
Anthony "Tony" Riela Caporegime Faction leader
Natale "Joe Diamonds" Evola Caporegime
Vito "Don Vito" Genovese Genovese crime family Boss
Gerardo "Jerry" Catena Underboss Faction leader
Michele "Big Mike" Miranda Consigliere
Salvatore "Charles" Chiri Caporegime Faction leader
Carlo "Don Carlo" Gambino Gambino crime family Boss
Joseph "Staten Island Joe" Riccobono Consigliere
Paul "Big Paul" Castellano Caporegime
Carmine "The Doctor" Lombardozzi Caporegime
Armand "Tommy" Simonetti Caporegime
Vincent "Nunzio" Rao Lucchese crime family Consigliere
Giovanni "Big John" Ormento Caporegime
Joseph "Joe Palisades" Rosato Caporegime
Joseph "Don Peppino" Profaci Profaci crime family Boss
Joseph "Fat Joe/Joe Malyak" Magliocco Underboss
Salvatore "Sam" Tornabe Caporegime
Frank Majuri DeCavalcante crime family Underboss
Louis "Fat Lou" LaRasso Caporegime
John C. Montana Buffalo crime family Underboss Only one to not plead the 5th Amendment about the Apalachin meeting
Antonino "Nino" Magaddino Caporegime
Rosario "Roy" Carlisi Caporegime
James "Jimmy" LaDuca Caporegime
Samuel "Sam" Lagattuta Caporegime
Dominick D'Agostino Caporegime
Constenze "Stanley" Valenti Rochester crime family Boss
Frank Valenti Underboss
Joseph Falcone Buffalo or Rochester Family Faction leader, possibly a Buffalo family caporegime
Salvatore Falcone Buffalo or Rochester Family Faction leader, Joseph's brother and second in command, Buffalo family soldier
Rosario "Roy" Mancuso Buffalo or Rochester Family Faction member, Buffalo family soldier
Michael "Mike" Genovese Pittsburgh crime family Caporegime
Gabriel "Kelly" Mannarino Caporegime
Joseph "Joe" Ida Philadelphia crime family Boss Fled to Sicily in 1957 after Apalachin, leaving Antonio "Mr. Miggs" Polina as Acting Boss
Dominick Olivetto Underboss
John Scalish Cleveland crime family Boss
John DeMarco Consigliere
Frank "The Cheeseman" Cucchiara Patriarca crime family Consigliere
Frank Zito Springfield, Illinois Boss Chicago Outfit Caporegime
Santo Trafficante Jr. Trafficante crime family
Joseph "Joe" Civello Dallas crime family Boss
John Francis Colletti
James "Black Jim" Colletti Colorado Colletti family Boss
Frank DeSimone Los Angeles crime family Boss
Simone Scozzari Underboss

Local and state law enforcement became suspicious when a large number of expensive cars bearing license plates from around the country arrived in what was described as "the sleepy hamlet of Apalachin."[5] After setting up roadblocks, the police raided the meeting causing many of the participants to flee into the woods and area surrounding the Barbara estate.[6] More than 60 underworld bosses were detained and indicted following the raid. One of the most direct and significant outcomes of the Apalachin Meeting was that it helped to confirm the existence of the American Mafia to the public, a fact that some, including Federal Bureau of Investigation Director J. Edgar Hoover, had long refused to acknowledge publicly

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Over four days, between October 12–16, 1957, the American gangster Joseph Bonanno allegedly attended a series of meetings between some high-level Sicilian and American mafiosi in the Grand Hotel des Palmes (Albergo delle Palme) in Palermo, Sicily – the most splendid in town at the time. The so-called 1957 Palermo Mafia summit has become a legendary landmark in the international illegal heroin trade in popular Mafia non-fiction. The question is if it ever took place. The details of it are still shrouded in mystery. According to some, one of the main topics on the agenda was the organisation of the heroin trade on an international basis. The FBI believed it was this meeting that established the Bonanno crime family in the heroin trade.

The first mention of the "summit" in the United States was during the McClellan Hearings on October 10–16, 1963. Among the American mafiosi present were Joe Bonanno, his underbosses and advisors Carmine Galante, John Bonventre and Frank Garofalo, as well as Lucky Luciano, Santo Sorge, John Di Bella, Vito Vitale and Gaspare Magaddino. While among the Sicilian side there were Salvatore "Little Bird" Greco and his cousin Salvatore Greco, also known as "l'ingegnere" or "Totò il lungo", Giuseppe Genco Russo, Angelo La Barbera, Gaetano Badalamenti, Calcedonio Di Pisa, Cesare Manzella and Tommaso Buscetta.

There are no first-hand accounts of the meeting, except for the version of Mafia turncoat Tommaso Buscetta, who denied a summit ever took place at all. According to Buscetta, Bonanno did stay at the Grand Hotel des Palmes and received many guests all the time, but there was no summit as such.[6] In his memoirs, Joe Bonanno mentions his trip to Palermo, but says nothing about a summit.[7] Professor Alfred W. McCoy does not mention the summit in his landmark book The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia, a detailed account of the heroin trade after World War II.

According to Buscetta a gathering took place in a private room at the Spanò seafood restaurant on the evening of October 12, 1957, where Bonanno was fêted as the guest of honour by his old friend Lucky Luciano. Among the other guests were Bonanno’s underboss Carmine Galante, the brothers Salvatore and Angelo La Barbera, Salvatore "Little Bird" Greco, Gaetano Badalamenti, Gioacchino Pennino, Cesare Manzella, Rosario Mancino, Filippo and Vincenzo Rimi, and Tommaso Buscetta. According to Buscetta, it was at this dinner that Bonanno suggested to form a Sicilian Mafia Commission to avoid violent disputes, following the example of the American Mafia that had formed their Commission in the 1930s.

The Italian police had been following Luciano and in so doing found out about the meetings. They observed the gatherings. However, the report was buried in some filing cabinet in Palermo. A copy was sent to the Federal Bureau of Narcotics in Washington. Only eight years later the report was used to indict the participants and some of their associates in Palermo

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La Stella Restaurant Incident
The Power Lunch – Mob Style

By Allan May
Reporting organized crime events is far from an exact science. Take the La Stella restaurant incident for example. In 1966, thirteen members of organized crime were arrested at an Italian restaurant in Queens, New York. The arrests appeared on the front page of the New York Times which called the affair “Little Apalachin.”

Why were the men meeting and having lunch together? Simple answer. Just ask Gay Talese, author of “Honor Thy Father,” a 500 page plus tome on the Bonanno Family. “They had assembled…to discuss pressing problems in the underworld – particularly, the Bonanno situation…”

Or…maybe we should ask Ernest Volkman. He tells us in his much maligned Lucchese Family tale, “Gangbusters,” that the meeting was held to discuss the successor to the terminally ill Tommy “Three Fingers Brown” Lucchese. Volkman also informs us that before the police arrived “flashbulbs suddenly went off,” and that the gangster’s table was surrounded by news photographers.”

Of course the always reliable John H. Davis informs us in his classic “Mafia Kingfish,” that the meeting came to an end when “two alert New York police officers, noting an unusual array of black limousines parked outside…barged into the place…and stumbled upon the largest gathering of major Mafia bosses held since the Apalachin conclave of 1957.” Hmm… I seem to recall that the police “stumbled” upon that “conclave” too.

Davis goes on to explain that the purpose of the meeting was to mediate a dispute between Carlos Marcello and Anthony Carolla over a matter in New Orleans. Davis also incorrectly informs us that several members of the group reconvened at the restaurant “the following day.”

Four years after “Mafia Kingfish” was released, Davis changed his tune and wrote in “Mafia Dynasty,” that the New Orleans’ dispute was only minor and that the meeting now was held to consider a replacement for the ailing Lucchese.

Then there is Frank Ragano’s version of the event. In his book, “Mob Lawyer,” the one time attorney for Santo Trafficante, Jr. reports his client told him, “the lunch had been a sit down, not a strategy session. Some New York mobsters were trying to poach on the action in New Orleans, which, unlike Miami, was a closed city, and Carlos was ready to resist intrusions by outsiders. Santo had been anointed by both factions to referee the dispute.”

While all scenarios are possible, it would seem unlikely that Trafficante, Marcello and three other New Orleans mobsters would sit in on Commission decisions that concerned the New York families.

However, it wasn’t just mob writers that were cashing in on the event to promote their subject matter. Police administrators and city prosecutors were trying to make a name for themselves also. The New York Times quoted Chief Inspector Sanford D. Garelik as calling the meeting a “little Apalachin.” He stated that the raid was part of the department’s campaign “to rid the city of top hoodlums.”

Meanwhile, Queens District Attorney Nat H. Hentel announced that all of the arrested men, charged with “consorting with criminals,” would be subpoenaed to appear before a special grand jury he planned to call.

The thirteen men arrested were, from New York; Carlo Gambino, head of the crime family that bears his name; Thomas Eboli and Mike Miranda, co-acting bosses (along with Jerry Catena) of the Genovese Family; Joseph Colombo, newly appointed boss of the crime family that carried his name; Aniello Delacroce, underboss of the Gambino Family; Joseph N. Gallo, the Gambino Family’s future consigliere; Dominick Alongi, Eboli’s driver; and Anthony Cirillo, a Genovese soldier. From Florida, Santo Trafficante, Jr. The other four men were from New Orleans. Family boss Carlos Marcello; his brother Joseph Marcello, Jr.; Anthony Carolla, the son of former New Orleans boss Sam “Silver Dollar” Carolla; and Frank Gagliano, the son of another deported mobster and the cousin of Eboli’s driver, Alongi. In addition, the owners of the restaurant, Joseph and Jack Taliercio, were arrested.

This would be the second time within a year that Eboli, Miranda, and Cirillo were arrested while dining. In October 1965, they were among seven men seized in a Manhattan eatery. The men were charged with the standard “consorting with known criminals” offense, but all were acquitted within a week.

According to the New York Times report, the police “burst in” on the group at 2:30 p.m. on the afternoon of September 22. None of the mobsters were surprised or offered resistance or even stood up for that matter, according to one detective. “They acted like gentlemen, just like your grandfather,” he stated.

No weapons were found on the men and police transported them “without handcuffs” according to the article. It was noted that the check was left unpaid. Taken to the Maspeth station house, police claimed to have had a hard time questioning the men because the hoods were not sure of their names, ages, or address.

The arrested were read their constitutional rights at the station and ushered into a waiting room and called in one at a time for questioning, which went on until 3:00 a.m. the following morning. In addition, each of the men were later stripped searched down to their underwear and finger printed.

Hentel, the Queens district attorney, instead of booking them on the “consorting” charges, named each of them a material witnesses in a grand jury investigation and asked that individual $100,000 bails be set. Hentel explained that in previous cases the arrested party usually was freed after a relatively low bail was set, and later won dismissal of the “consorting” charge. The high bail was set by New York Supreme Court Justice Joseph M. Conroy, who Hentel had gotten out of bed and driven to the police station to hold court before sunrise.

Inspector Garelik, who had quickly notified the FBI and the Treasury Department, of his catch, briefed reporters, “All of the men had large amounts of cash on them. The least amount anyone was carrying was $600…All (were wearing) $300 suits, and they are all well-fed.”

One detective told reporters, “These raids are good because we can see who is boss, not because they tell us, but because of the way they act toward one another. We can judge a Mafia boss’s importance by the respect or deference the other men show him.”

By Friday night, all of the mobsters had been freed on $1.3 million in bail. While attorneys for the men failed to get the bail reduced, those efforts kept their clients from having to appear before a grand jury that day. Having been taken to appear at the Supreme Court in Jamaica, New York, where the reductions was denied, the exercise prevented them from getting back to the grand jury room in time. It adjourned early that day so its Jewish members could get home before sundown for the start of Yom Kippur.

On Saturday, September 24, the New York Times ran a front-page article with a photograph showing two unidentified mobsters hunched over covering their faces with their hats and hands. A far cry from the future days of John Gotti’s court appearances.

Hentel told newsmen that the thirteen mobsters “have superior status in gangland to those at Apalachin.” He stated that Joseph Valachi had named all the men during hearing held in 1963. Hentel repeated, “we think this over shadows the Apalachin meeting.”

Garelik piped up that it was “apparent from the distances they traveled that they met to decide matters of national importance to organized crime.” He declined to say just what they matters might be.

The newspapers speculated that settling the problems of the Bonanno Family and choosing a successor to the gravely ill Lucchese could be items of business. Another item was the Genovese Family, which was currently being run by a triumvirate. While it is possible that these items were discussed, it is highly more likely that Ragano’s explanation rings true because of the presence of the mobsters from the south.

Frank Ragano believed the police found out about the luncheon by tailing Marcello once he arrived in New York City. Marcello had complied with a court order to notify the New Orleans immigration office when he traveled in order to simplify surveillance on him.

Ragano had been in Chicago working on a post-trial motion for another notorious client, Jimmy Hoffa, when he received the message from Trafficante that he was needed in New York. After Trafficante was bailed out, he and Ragano met for drinks. Then, according to Ragano, Trafficante told him, “I came up here to meet with these friends of mine in New York to straighten out a problem that Carlos and some of his friends were having with my friends in New York. Since I’m a friend of both, Carlo and the people in New York, there was going to be a sit down and I was going to be the one to decide who was right.”

The problem was believed to have been a dispute between the Marcellos and the Carollas regarding Anthony Carolla’s position in the New Orleans Family. Carolla felt he was entitled to a larger piece of the pie as well as consideration to be Marcello’s successor. Carolla was rumored to have invited some New Jersey mobsters down to partake of the “open city.” Carolla was said to have been rebuked in his efforts at this sit down by Trafficante and the New York bosses.

Meanwhile, a full week had elapsed since the arrests and Trafficante and Marcello still hadn’t been called before the grand jury. The following day the two men, along with Ragano, Jack Wasserman (Marcello’s attorney), and the three other New Orleans mobsters, returned to the La Stella restaurant for lunch. Reporters and several men in plain clothes, who were either detectives or FBI agents, soon joined them in the dining room.

A photographer from the New York Daily News asked the group for permission to take a picture. In a mock toast, Trafficante and Ragano raised their glasses to the cameraman.

Marcello snarled loud enough for the plainclothesmen to hear, “Why don’t they arrest us now?”

When the famous photograph appeared in a Time Magazine issue, it misidentified both Ragano and Wasserman as “top Cosa Nostra hoodlums.” Ragano demanded a retraction which Time refused. He then filed a $2.5 million dollar libel suit against the magazine. The trial, after much legal maneuvering on the part of Time, took place in May 1971. Ragano was represented by famed attorney Melvin Belli, while Time Magazine’s chief witness was organized crime expert, and author of the RICO statute, G. Robert Blakey. After three hours of jury deliberation, Time won the verdict.

The real loser in the whole La Stella episode appeared to be Carlos Marcello. After insisting for years that he never had been associated with organized crime figures, Marcello, and his brother, were hard pressed to explain their presence at the La Stella lunch. He offered the following weak explanation:

“I decided to see some of my old friends – so we all got together for lunch. Sure, some of those fellows had been in the rackets…But, if they’re in the Mafia, I don’t know a damned thing about that. This was strictly a social gathering; that’s all there was to it…What’s the matter with some old friends getting together for lunch?”

The disclosure of Marcello’s presence at the restaurant made sensational headlines in the New Orleans newspapers. Upon his return to the city, a large crowd of photographers, news reporters, and spectators awaited him. Also there to greet Marcello was FBI agent Patrick Collins. Marcello, angered by all the attention, became even more incensed once he saw Collins.

This encounter, between Marcello and the FBI agent had three versions. According to Marcello, as he was trying to make his way through the crowd, someone stepped in front of him, blocking his path and, losing patience, he swung out in frustration.

Collins had a markedly different story. According to the agent, he met Marcello to let him know the FBI was still keeping a close eye on him. When the two men came face to face, he claims Marcello shouted, “I’m the boss around here.” He then let fly with a straight left to the head of the surprised agent, which was caught on film by a photographer.

John H. Davis was able to bring us an even more bizarre version. He claims Collins was involved in a “clandestine” love affair with Joe Marcello’s wife, Bootsie, who was passing on crime family information to the agent. As Marcello made his way through the crowd, Collins, “an agent known for his brashness,” shouted, “Hey Carlos, guess what? I’ve been f—king your brother Joe’s wife.” After which Marcello took a swing.

Charged with assaulting a FBI agent, Marcello went to trial in federal court in Laredo, Texas in May 1968. The trial ended in a hung jury. Retried in August, Marcello was found guilty and sentenced to two years in federal prison. He served just six months at the United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners at Springfield, Missouri.

Trafficante, in addition to the restaurant arrest, was wanted for questioning in the Albert Anastasia murder that took place nine years prior in October 1957. It was believed that Anastasia was trying to get into the casino business in Havana and had meetings with Cuban hotel contractors as well as Trafficante just days before his death. Trafficante had stayed at the Warwick Hotel for several days, where Anastasia maintained an office, and checked out the morning Anastasia was killed.

Over the months following the La Stella incident Ragano and Trafficante made four trips back to New York to be questioned about both incidents. When Ragano finally asked a state judge for expense reimbursements the appearances for the Anastasia questioning stooped. In May 1967, after a fifth summons, Trafficante at last appeared before a grand jury to talk about the La Stella meeting. Like all the other men who were called to testify, Trafficante invoked his Fifth Amendment rights.

Queens’ District Attorney Nat Hentel had pressed hard for exposure to enhance his election chances. Hentel, a Republican in a heavy Democratic area, had been appointed by the governor to fill an interim term. When the inquiry went down the drain his election dreams for followed.

While the La Stella restaurant incident generated unwanted headlines and publicity for Carlo Gambino, Trafficante, and Marcello, nothing came of the arrests, no indictments were issued, and the purpose of the meeting was never definitively explained.


Copyright A. R. May 1999

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The Commission Today

The Commission is still reported to exist today, though its current membership is composed of only the bosses of the Five Families and the Chicago Outfit. Its activities, like much of the Mafia in general, have receded from public view as a matter of necessity. Because of law enforcement scrutiny, the five New York City bosses have not met since Paul Castellano was killed in 1985.[2] However, while the Commission no longer meets in person, they still must approve major actions. Mini meetings between two (or more) bosses still take place.In 2000, representatives of the Five Families (three bosses, one consigliere and a member of the Genovese ruling panel) did meet.Instead of a meeting of bosses, underlings such as underbosses or captains meet secretly to discuss the business and govern.

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Now if will be a commission meeting today,here the members:

The Genoveses: maybe Barney Bellomo
The Gambinos: Dominick Cefalù
The Luccheses: Steven Crea
The Bonannos: Thomas Fiore,acting boss
The Colombo: maybe Andrew Russo

Is not sure,if the commission is reduced on only the five family,or there are part even the DEcavalcante and other family like the Outfit.


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