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ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. #769062
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Here's the photo:



We're to name 7 of the 10.

I'm currently going with (from left to right around the tables):

1. Amato
2. JB
3. Pranno
4. Gagliano
5. Amabile
6. Potenza
7. Battaglia (total winger here)
8. DeStefano
9. Cerone
10. Ferraro

Alright everybody, tear me apart. Seriously. I just need to have my curiosity satisfied, so any and all suggestions are welcome.

Bottom line, we should be able to do this.

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Hmmm not sure, but I don't think glasses guy is DeStefano.

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Originally Posted By: funkster
Hmmm not sure, but I don't think glasses guy is DeStefano.



Kinda looks like a Caifano .

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You all need to stop throwing out random Outfit names and consider what guys were "Accardo" guys and what guys came to fame years later under Giancana. In the 1950s, Cerone was still a soldier...Joe Gags probably wasn't even made yet.


1. Amato
2. JB
3. Pranno
4. Frank Buccieri
5. Frank "The X" Esposito
6. Potenza
7. Dominic "Little Libby" Nuccio
8. Murray Humphreys
9. Cerone or Ricca
10. Ferraro or Gus Alex or Ross Prio

Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: JJB] #769228
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This the late fifties at the earliest. Cerone was definitely boss of Elmwood Park by that point and Joe Gags was his number two.

The biggest problem is that we have limited pictures for a lot of these guys so it's tough to get an accurate gauge of who is who.


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Originally Posted By: Snakes
This the late fifties at the earliest. Cerone was definitely boss of Elmwood Park by that point and Joe Gags was his number two.

The biggest problem is that we have limited pictures for a lot of these guys so it's tough to get an accurate gauge of who is who.



Exactly. I was just taking a shot in hopes we could get some replies. I'll keep looking to see if this picture shows up some other place.

Thanks

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The guy with the glasses is not DeStefano....DiVarco maybe but im not sure because heres a photo of DiVarco from the late 50's and it doesnt look a bit similar(his hair is waaaay darker)...My guess is James Adduci from the west side



First from the left Caesar DiVarco,Jackie Cerone and Ross Prio pictured here in front of the McClellan Rackets Committee, 1958.


My guess is Amato,Accardo,Pranno,Gagliano,dont know,dont know,dont know,James Adduci,Cerone or Frank LaPorte,Nick Palermo(with cigar)


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Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: JJB] #769294
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Starting to wonder if dice blower is DeGrazia.


Here's him all the way on the right with Accardo from way back...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5xFE0EtOA50/UB...co+degrazia.jpg

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Any photos our there of Adduci, Palermo, LaPorte or Frank Buccieri from that era? DeGrazio?

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Here's a picture of Esposito in 1962:



I don't think he's in the ANP photo, but of course I could be wrong.

Here's a shot of the Doms (Brancato/DiBella/Nuzzo):



I'm not seeing Nuccio in the ANP photo, but I think there's a shot that #4 is DiBella.

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Heres a photo of LaPorte in the early 60's....

http://books.google.mk/books?id=4YemJYcU...tos&f=false


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The guy with the sun glasses looks an awful lot like momo giancana

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"The Boys In Chicago Heights" by Matt Luzi - great book, well documented. Would highly recommend.

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I still think the guy with the glasses could be Messino. It's definitely not Giancana. Messino was with with Cerone for several years and if the bald guy is Cerone than it would make sense for Messino to be right next to him.

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Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: JJB] #769404
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You also have to consider he has glasses, no hat, and a cigar in his mouth. I'm still not convinced it isn't him.


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Yeah I just don't think it looks like him. I could be wrong though. Also not convinced he was heavy enough at this point to be with these guys.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_eDebM2zctu8/S6rjPm48C6I/AAAAAAAAA74/nv2aZYEWKbY/s400/Messino.jpg

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He was close to Cerone and he was arguably as high up as Amato or Pranno was at the time.


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Agree to disagree. He was Jack's gopher. I don't think he was very high status until late in life.

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Is this a legit photo of Aiuppa? If so, I think #9 (whom we've pegged up until now as Cerone or Ricca) just could be Doves.



EDIT: Nevermind; it's Allen Glick. Duh.

Are there any younger photos of Aiuppa out there?

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Originally Posted By: JJB
Is this a legit photo of Aiuppa? If so, I think #9 (whom we've pegged up until now as Cerone or Ricca) just could be Doves.



That's Allen Glick.

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Originally Posted By: JJB
Is this a legit photo of Aiuppa? If so, I think #9 (whom we've pegged up until now as Cerone or Ricca) just could be Doves.



EDIT: Nevermind; it's Allen Glick. Duh.

Are there any younger photos of Aiuppa out there?


I know there's one of him testifying in front of congress, but I can't seem to find it.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/...y-Aiuppa200.jpg

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Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: funkster] #769432
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Who is that, anyway? It seems half the fun of this wretched photo is all of the new stuff you come across while researching it. For instance, I'd never seen this:


While not helpful for our purposes, it's a pretty crazy story, and I'd never come across it before. Full story can be found here.

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^^^Good find!

JJB, its Joey Aiuppa lol

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Wow great find with the piece on the Bucceri brothers...I had no idea that was them. Angelo and Jimmy LaPietra were protoge's of those brothers. Fifi always sounded like a sadistic guy.

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Quote:
Starting to wonder if dice blower is DeGrazia.


I've wondered the same. Lack of photographic evidence makes it really difficult. I'm not sure there's anything more I can research, honestly. It may take someone close to one of the pictured to piece it all together. Which gets my goat, of course.

That said, I have a suspicion that we're making a wrong assumption, perhaps Amato or Cerone, that is making it all the harder.

It'd be nice if Fosco would at least respond to guesses summarily. Say, however many correct guessed would be fair enough - he was doing it before in the ANP thread.

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Here's the latest guess I've posited to Fosco:

1. Amato
2. JB
3. Pranno
4. DiBella
5. Buccieri
6. Potenza
7. Nuccio
8. Adduci
9. Cerone
10. Blasi

The biggest question marks are of course 4, 5, 7, 8, and 10.

I see similarities in the eyes of known pics of DiBella and #4, so I think I might be on to something there. And DiBella makes sense with Joe Amato at the table.

#5 is a killing me, because he stands out but doesn't seem to resemble anybody else I've been able to compare photos to. I'm leaning Buccieri, but those that have mentioned Fischetti (no pics to compare) warrant consideration. DeGrazio is another possibility, but again, no photos from the era are available for comparison. Where's a photo of Fischetti, for Christ's sake?

#7 I've got NOTHING here. NOTHING. I'm guessing Nuccio because someone else has and I haven't a clue, other that I'm pretty damn sure #7 and #8 AREN'T Humphreys.

#8 See #7

#10 Blasi just might be #10, but nobody's an easy match, that's for sure. Ferraro? I don't see this as guy as Messino, that's for sure.

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I've guessed at least twice to Fosco in the past couple months and I know that funkster has posted on the board over there guessing but he hasn't even replied to any of them. I guess he is butt hurt that someone questioned his identification of Pranno (even though Fosco ended up being right).


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Buccieri's hair wasn't that white at this time and he almost always wore glasses. Didn't really seem like the guy who would wear an open shirt in public, either. Fischetti on the other hand:



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