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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: NickyEyes1] #789795
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Amuso has absolutely zero control of them today, it's all Crea.

He's trolling, Nicky.


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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Giancarlo] #789800
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When did Amuso finally lose whatever sway he had? Under De Fede? Daidone? It would have been after Daidone, yeah?


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: NickyEyes1] #789802
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Amuso has absolutely zero control of them today, it's all Crea.


Youre wrong Nicky.

Vic controls Scarfo Jnr, he's a big time captain in Jersey, making millions from this firm in Texas, got hisself a Bentley, and a yacht, and a house on the shore, and...

...

Nup, he's f*****.

wink


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CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Dellacroce] #789827
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For whatever its worth Phil never testified (to the best of my knowledge) against any of the Scarfo south Philly / AC guys. (I believe he did testify against the NJ faction but I'm not positive)
I think Phil did more damage against NY but only from a collaborative stand point.
But his point is right on - his uncle was an absolute fucking maniac and the son never had a chance.

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Giancarlo] #790018
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Scarfo has always had friends in NY, plus he is costa nostra to the fucking bone, made since the 50's, that will always bring some kind of respect.

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: gram6814] #790020
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Originally Posted By: gram6814
For whatever its worth Phil never testified (to the best of my knowledge) against any of the Scarfo south Philly / AC guys. (I believe he did testify against the NJ faction but I'm not positive)
I think Phil did more damage against NY but only from a collaborative stand point.
But his point is right on - his uncle was an absolute fucking maniac and the son never had a chance.

I think the only guy from his own family Leonetti testified against was Santo Idone he was a capo under Bruno and Scarfo

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: SonnyL] #790066
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Thanks Sonny Liston. (Fought out of Philly was with Blinky Palermo, absolutely did the old flip flop against Clay)
One mean son of a bitch and a tremendous fighter, died a stone junkie in Vegas I think.

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: NickyEyes1] #790533
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That's odd... Be careful just what you believe huh.

http://articles.philly.com/2000-01-25/ne...rfo-prison-term

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: SonnyL] #790534
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No he ratted on his uncle that raised him and many many others.

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Massimo] #790551
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Originally Posted By: Massimo
No he ratted on his uncle that raised him and many many others.

Yeah he did but he didn't testify against him the only person in his family he took the stand against was Santo Idone.

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: SonnyL] #790574
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Didn't testify correct. He's a liar none the less just compare his recent interview with Anastasia to the link I posted. Keeps seeking publicity but is glad he's outta the life

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Massimo] #790731
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Originally Posted By: Massimo
That's odd... Be careful just what you believe huh.

http://articles.philly.com/2000-01-25/ne...rfo-prison-term
this is a great find. LEONNETTI IS FULL OF SHIT. Someone should email George Anastasia, see if he even cares about spreading lies

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Wilson101] #790777
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Originally Posted By: VegasMikey
Originally Posted By: Massimo
That's odd... Be careful just what you believe huh.

http://articles.philly.com/2000-01-25/ne...rfo-prison-term
this is a great find. LEONNETTI IS FULL OF SHIT. Someone should email George Anastasia, see if he even cares about spreading lies


Hmm, I just read the Leonetti book and Leonetti claimed Saul Kane named HIM (Leonetti) As his son. Not Nicky Sr. & Jr

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Wilson101] #790841
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I don't understand your beef with Phil as it relates to the Saul Kane article by GA. How is he "full of shit?" Because GA article didn't mention what Phil said in the book? Maybe GA just didn't print that part? Its not like they reprinted the obit.

I know I'm old but again I don't get what you're saying.

Hopefully you're not implying Phil wasn't friends with Saul.

I don't know if Phil is seeking publicity or not. I know he made a lot of money on his book.

People like GA reached out to him to get reactions and comments to Jr.'s (his cousins) trial verdict.

That's a fucked up family dynamic as once again Sr. was an absolute fucking maniac and Phil continues to strike back at him.

That's not him lying and him being full of shit IMO that's his continued hatred for what he harbors and perceives his uncle did to them.

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Garbageman] #790864
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So he lied in the book and in the most recent article. I wonder what else he lied about...

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: gram6814] #790869
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No.. Because he lies in the book and in the article about Kane listing HIM in his obit. When in fact he did not he listed the Scarfos. Big difference. I'm not disputing they were friends back in the day before he flipped I'm am disputing leonetti claim that Kane was okay with that and I'm proving it with the article from G Anastasia's own pen. Leonetti said something years later that was not true and Anastasia went along with it.

In my book they both have no creditability and need to leave it alone already! How can u believe anything he writes or he says?! Fact is YOU CANT!

BTW- if he ever did pop in on Jr., which I doubt, unless he was wired up- do u really think Jr. Would make waves with him? The guys a serial killer and now a fed informant! Of course he would if said "I got no beef. Now I gotta go. " wtf is that? Jr. Is a smart man not a gun slinging thug.

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Massimo] #790873
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What did he "lie" about in the article?

What did he "lie" about in the book?

I guess the only way to find out would be to pull the entire obituary to see if it was an omission from GA's article.

Either way I don't see tying that small detail into "what else did he lie about?"

I think what's more fair to ask would be "what didn't he divulge" that was to his favor. An example of that is the money he took from the compound on his way out. (Referenced in article but not in book.)

And don't forget Serp from Georgia avenue had that too, he was the one who said on here he knew Phil's family got shoe boxes full of dough out of there.

Anyone who felt the need to question him just remember he was the one who posted that Scarfo's youngest son died literally weeks before anyone in the mainstream media mentioned it (GA)

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Giancarlo] #790877
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These guys are low-lives. No one has respect like they use to or fear. Phila's been done they don't have the #'s or the $$$ they used too. One name that's mentioned on here a lot fired a lot of his staff at their establishment for "stealing". Would you steal from a made guy whose done a lot of times and has a few notches under his belt...well these guys did n they don't fear anything!

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Massimo] #790880
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The were cousins they grew up literally twenty feet from each other.

Yes Phil was a great deal older but again this was a blood family all living in the same compound.

Yes I believe Phil absolutely did "drop in on him" it was the grandmother he was going to see.

Yes I do believe he told his cousin to get the fuck away from his father, absolutely.

And I'm even thinking Phil may have shown back up recently with the passing of his youngest cousin Mark if there was a service.

Who would he be afraid of? Its been established he didn't testify against any of the old family guys (sans one per Sonny Liston) who's going to kill him?

I know he'd have to be careful but again realistically who's going to kill him?

For who for what?

Sr is going to pay off a 500K bounty? I wouldn't take that bet.

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Giancarlo] #790934
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Dude do I gotta find the article and quote the lies!? He said Saul Kane named him as his son and gave Scarfo the cold shoulder, not true, LIE

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Giancarlo] #790938
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Gram You are right on the money....


Cackling like a banty Rooster.

I love this," "I just love this."
Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Wilson101] #791004
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Okay dude you go find the article. I understand everyone is entitled to an opinion and most opinions are loaded with emotion. That's fine if you hate Leonetti because he flipped. Just don't paint him as a liar without bringing something more substantial than a obituary from his friend (and make no mistake about I t Saul was Phil friend)

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Serp you're the man! Welcome back paisan. I know I speak for a lot of people on here who appreciated your true insight and knowledge. You grew up and lived this, your information was firsthand, I know that. Ducktown back in the day! To you guys "Skinny" will always be Skinny Damanto and never Lawrence's nephew Skinny Joey!

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Giancarlo] #791007
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I don't hate Leonetti because he is a rat. I just question the validity in his book and everything he says and his version of history, when he clearly just lied. Here is the link as already posted above in this thread, on this page, http://articles.philly.com/2000-01-25/ne...rfo-prison-term

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Giancarlo] #791008
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Just to highlight the important part to make it simple for you

"This" was the paid death notice that appeared in The Inquirer and the Press of Atlantic City over the weekend. The notice listed Scarfo, who is in prison, as one of Kane's "brothers" and Nicodemo Scarfo Jr. as one of Kane's "sons."

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So again you hang on an excerpt and don't know what the full obit said. Go find that and that'll settle one small detail. Let me ask you this do you think Saul Kane hated Phil for flipping? Did Phil's testimony hurt Saul Kane in any way? You questioning everything Phil has said based on this isn't enough. So again even if I were to concede this (which I'm not) what else has Phil lied about? Take your time and enlighten everyone.

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No its real simple to me Phil hates his fucked up maniac uncle and holds him responsible for tearing apart his cosa nostra and blood family .

Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial [Re: Giancarlo] #791015
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Gram lets not loose track that Phil Leonetti also tore down Cosa Nostra by virtue of his cooperation. Also, he ratted only after he was sentenced, not before leading to have us wonder what his true intentions were. Personally, IMO it was because he just couldn't do that large amount of time. He could blame his Uncle all he wants but he loved the power when they were on top. Nicky was crazy but make no mistake about it, he was a stone cold gangster and true Cosa Nostra.

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>>>OVA THERE
Any person in that life is responsible for tearing apart their blood family, other victims families, and their mafia family when they signed on the dotted line to be involved in a Vicious Circle they call La Cosa Nostra...Point Blank


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I understand your point and agree in principle. But that's separate from questioning the validity of everything he has said. And don't forget he's loaded with the emotion that of his three cousins one is dead,one is facing 500 years and the other disowned his family and changed his name. And Phil pins that exactly were it belongs on their father.

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