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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: strococs] #749203
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Originally Posted By: strococs

There are many people in Cleveland who kinda piggy backed the mob and made a ton of cash. Used the mob connections to build there companies in the 60's to present and now years later are either 100 percent legit or at the very least qausi legit.


RJP himself is basically legit now from what I've read. Of course that's just people talking on the internet, no idea if it's actually true.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Ivan] #749227
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Maishe Rockman's kid and John Scalish's kid (first cousins) both run a body shop in the Mentor area of Cleveland, which is very successful and a cash business. Both kids are not involved and supposedly are good guys to deal with when your car needs work. Remember, John Scalish owned Buckeye Vending, which was the most lucrative vending machine company in NE Ohio and was a "legitimate" business. Although many business owners "probably rented or bought their machines from Scalish out of fear," nobody ever complained they were forced to deal with Buckeye Vending.

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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #749370
11/20/13 07:58 PM
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JCB1977,

Ronald Lucarelli Jr. is not made but pretty active in mentor as well is he not?

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Scalish] #749380
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I know he books and I'm sure he's involved in drugs...his dad was made...he was a fuck up

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #749381
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Never heard he was a fuck but I guess he has been away a few times.

Panzarella and Otto had kids involved as well do you know if they are still around?

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Scalish] #749409
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Lucarelli could have moved up fast if it wasn't got the drugs...have not heard anything about those two.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #749472
11/21/13 11:17 AM
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This article was written in a publication called Scene Magazine in Cleveland. Great insight to "who was left running things"

http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/rat/Content?oid=1484103

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: JCB1977] #749483
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Originally Posted By: JCB1977
This article was written in a publication called Scene Magazine in Cleveland. Great insight to "who was left running things"

http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/rat/Content?oid=1484103


Good read

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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Scalish] #749485
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Originally Posted By: Scalish
Never heard he was a fuck but I guess he has been away a few times.

Panzarella and Otto had kids involved as well do you know if they are still around?


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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: JCB1977] #749487
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Originally Posted By: JCB1977
I know he books and I'm sure he's involved in drugs...his dad was made...he was a fuck up


smile

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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: ChiTown] #749504
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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
So the answer is no...you have never had a blowjob in your life because they are illegal in your city. lol

I feel sorry for you my friend...you would think all that Provo Utah "smack talk" and tough attitude you like to convey would be a hit with the women. rolleyes


I didn't answer because it's got nothing to do with the subject at hand. You keep trying to make this personal because, for you, it's been personal for a long time. Sorry buddy, you may still be obsessed with this beef from way back but I couldn't care less. You, your obsession with me, your fantasies about the Outfit, and your insecurities about your city just don't matter that much.

Now quit hijacking threads.

And quit sending me PM's. I'm not going to respond.

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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: strococs] #749530
11/21/13 01:41 PM
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I HIGHLY doubt he is at the moment, but that's been his forte all along in some capacity.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #749623
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Thanks JCB my friend. I did mean Oddo I thinks he had 2 son's involved.

I think his name was Michael Panzarella and yes it was Tony's son.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Scalish] #749946
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I think his name was Michael Panzarella and yes it was Tony's son. [/quote]

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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: JCB1977] #749949
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Originally Posted By: JCB1977
I HIGHLY doubt he is at the moment, but that's been his forte all along in some capacity.


k

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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: strococs] #749950
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Strocco,

Do RJ and Loose do any business together? In your opinion, are they friends that stay in touch or do they do their separate thing?

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #749955
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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #749956
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Good stuff thanks boys.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: JCB1977] #749973
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Strocco,

Do RJ and Loose do any business together? In your opinion, are they friends that stay in touch or do they do their separate thing?


smile

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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: strococs] #749976
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LMAO

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Ivan] #749994
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Originally Posted By: Ivan
Originally Posted By: strococs

There are many people in Cleveland who kinda piggy backed the mob and made a ton of cash. Used the mob connections to build there companies in the 60's to present and now years later are either 100 percent legit or at the very least qausi legit.


RJP himself is basically legit now from what I've read. Of course that's just people talking on the internet, no idea if it's actually true.

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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: strococs] #750004
11/23/13 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: strococs
Originally Posted By: Ivan
Originally Posted By: strococs

There are many people in Cleveland who kinda piggy backed the mob and made a ton of cash. Used the mob connections to build there companies in the 60's to present and now years later are either 100 percent legit or at the very least qausi legit.


RJP himself is basically legit now from what I've read. Of course that's just people talking on the internet, no idea if it's actually true.


The feds wanted him in 08. They needed to peel back the onion a few more times to get him.


I remember him getting mentioned in the DiMora case to about the extent that No Nose got mentioned in Family Secrets - sort of there in the background, and acknowledged as important, but there was not enough to tie him directly to the case.

I still think it's hilarious those two lived right across the street from each other. A helpful map:

http://blog.cleveland.com/pdgraphics/2008/11/23CGNEIGHBORS.pdf

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Ivan] #750219
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Originally Posted By: Ivan
Originally Posted By: strococs
Originally Posted By: Ivan
Originally Posted By: strococs

There are many people in Cleveland who kinda piggy backed the mob and made a ton of cash. Used the mob connections to build there companies in the 60's to present and now years later are either 100 percent legit or at the very least qausi legit.


RJP himself is basically legit now from what I've read. Of course that's just people talking on the internet, no idea if it's actually true.


The feds wanted him in 08. They needed to peel back the onion a few more times to get him.


I remember him getting mentioned in the DiMora case to about the extent that No Nose got mentioned in Family Secrets - sort of there in the background, and acknowledged as important, but there was not enough to tie him directly to the case.

I still think it's hilarious those two lived right across the street from each other. A helpful map:

http://blog.cleveland.com/pdgraphics/2008/11/23CGNEIGHBORS.pdf


k

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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: IvyLeague] #750222
11/25/13 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
So the answer is no...you have never had a blowjob in your life because they are illegal in your city. lol

I feel sorry for you my friend...you would think all that Provo Utah "smack talk" and tough attitude you like to convey would be a hit with the women. rolleyes


I didn't answer because it's got nothing to do with the subject at hand. You keep trying to make this personal because, for you, it's been personal for a long time. Sorry buddy, you may still be obsessed with this beef from way back but I couldn't care less. You, your obsession with me, your fantasies about the Outfit, and your insecurities about your city just don't matter that much.

Now quit hijacking threads.

And quit sending me PM's. I'm not going to respond.


lol do you call arguments "beefs" in real life or just in your online fantasy life? rolleyes Tough street talk "buddy."

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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #750276
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Kinda creepy how JCB knows all this stuff about Cleveland and all the relatives. Its like hes stalking them.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Extortion] #750446
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Extortion,

Get off the thread if you have nothing intelligent to add. I happen to actually know who most of these guys are and a lot of their kids. It's no secret in Cleveland what their kids do for a living. You're truly pathetic and don't offer shit to the equation.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #750447
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JcB,

I enjoy your posts and knowledge on everything especially Cleveland and I know it is not bullshit because everthing I needed confirmation on you confirmed it.

Keep it up bro, Viva Italia.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Scalish] #750564
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Much appreciated Scalish. Your posts are very enjoyable as well and your enthusiasm for the Midwest families is great...there is a small contingent of people like us that still enjoy learning about powerful families that are now defunct. Last of the Mohicans so to speak.

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Originally Posted By: Scalish
JcB,

I enjoy your posts and knowledge on everything especially Cleveland and I know it is not bullshit because everthing I needed confirmation on you confirmed it.

Keep it up bro, Viva Italia.

I second that. JCB is a gentleman and he's very knowledgable about an area (Ohio and Western Pennsylvania ) that, as a New Yorker, I don't know much about.

But some people have lives that are so small and unrewarding, that all they can do is come here and troll. But the good news is, after they ultimately get banned from here, they'll still be living with their drug problems beneath the poverty line.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #750712
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Lol your right my friend.

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