It wouldn't surprise me if it's faked as well.

I'm confused about Clay in prison. Why did the blacks kick his ass and what's up with the prison fight in the yard?

They wanted to use Clay to get close to the leader of the white prisoners. No black inmate could get that close on their own so they gave Clay an ultimatum - take part in the fake yard fight, and kill the guy while it's taking place, or they would kill him. He obviously took the deal.

I thought it was funny that Jax didn't get to bang that Madam like he wanted to.

Yea it's weird Jax was jealous of the hooker.

Yep Ivy hit it on the head. The blacks had him kill that guy. Now what they do with Clay after this who knows. That is why I think he stays alive.

Also I forgot to mention, on the previews for this coming up episode, there was 3 bodies being buried by Happy, Jax, Chibs and Juice plus it showed at least one vest being burned. Makes you wonder who dies this week.

My money is on tig being the one who dies.

I think it's a possibility that the blacks in that prison are affiliated with BGF and there's a partnership between them & August Marks Enterprise ( Pope's former second in command). They spared Clay on word from August until Jax disconnect the gun pipeline. Tig must die, his actions have brought additional trouble for the club. Killing that Iranian ( haven't been a Persia since centuries ago, LoL) was the nail in the coffin on himself.

I could be wrong, but Sutter always surprises. The guide for the show tonight talks about someone hitting their clubhouse tonight, the new chunky member of SoA is supposed to be there getting the mechanic business back in gear. I think one of them die in the "raid" tonight and Tig lives to see another day. That is just my thoughts after watching Sutter work for years.

Remember he did this with Shane and Vic Mackey on The Shield as well. They were well known for showing scenes from the upcoming show and making you think one thing, then the show comes on and totally surprises you. That alone is why I think Tig lives. Now that I've said that he'll probably die now.....lol

Well I was right on who lived and died, just got their location mixed up. I figured big buy had to die, he just didn't fit in IMO.

I was a little upset the big guy got killed and oh well for the prospect, but the big guy just got his patch at the end of last season. Irish kings must die, screw the guns. On the other hand it was about time that marshal was put down.

R I P Otto. I'm so glad he killed that douche Toric. Sad that big guy had to die. It seems that the sheriff is in Nero's corner huh?

Definitely...RIP Otto. He killed Toric and got put out of his long suffering misery.

Glad they didn't kill Tig off. Jax seemed pretty surprised to see him still alive. lol

Otto went through alot of shit for the MC. I liked his character. Sad to see him go but he's out of misery now and Kurt can get busy and write the last season.

Yea not many writers will write a character for themselves like Kurt did......LOL. Dude goes from eating up time for his M/C to them killing his wife (with one sleeping with her), to him losing both eyes, then getting raped in prison everyday to finally killing the one link that was going to get the club BOTH times....LMAO.

I'm just not sure they'll ever get rid of Galaan, I think they kill a few off in revenge but I think he'll always be there somehow.

Now we know Tara and Wendy are in it together like we thought, and I think eventually Tig figures out Jax set him up too and will cause a problem. Still not sure how Clay lives but he has always found a way to stay alive.

I hope Tara gets it next.

I think they are done with the players dying off for this year (at least the MAJOR players). I think all the others that die are the Irish and no names.

I think it's a safe bet that Clay doesn't get killed. Maybe a new legal angle comes up and he gets released much to everyone's dismay. Agree that TIG will figure it out and make an attempt on Jax's life. Tara and Gemma will have a confrontation.

Wow! The Irish means business huh? Gemma was not a happy camper at Stockton...LOL What's gonna happen with Nero now?

Will be interesting to see if Gemma broke it off or what she told him. Will also be interesting to see how they use Nero now that it looks like he is going in for a while.

That was a huge turnaround with the Irish, they make you think they are going to play peace then they bomb the compound. With the looks of Clay getting out it will only make them bitter enemies of the M/C now.

When Jax was told to have all of the members at the table for a vote,I knew it was a trick to get them all in one place. I was completely thrown off by the bomb. I thought for sure it was going to be a mass shooting. Either way,it only goes to show how completely unsuited Jax is to run the MC. He is a loose cannon who has pretty much destroyed the Club.
And how creepy was the "conjugal visit" scene? I bet that if Clay had allied himself with the Aryan gangs,it would not have happened,but since he is seen as siding with the blacks,the racist redneck guards figure he is fair game.

Yea the prison scene was definitely "odd"

My wife looked at me like WTF? when that happened. I just shrugged and laughed and said "that is Kurt Sutter for ya".

Will Clay get even with those guards in the future? Sutter is a brilliant writer.

It might be a case where he finds them on the outside, kind of like Jax found the guard that made Opie eventually chose his own fate.

As I understand it,one of the main reasons for the bombing was the suggestion by Jax that the Kings do business with August Marks.The notion of dealing with non-whites supposedly infuriated them enough to attempt the mass extinction of the Sons. How then will they react when they find out that Clay is aligned with the black prison gang? Or do they just figure that while inside,he does what he has to do to survive? Thoughts?

Yea they'll just forget it, like most people forget the rules when it applies to them.

Watching season 5 on dvd.

It's the fact that Jax decline the next shipment and telling that Irish prick when the time was right. The Irish kings already worked with the Mexican Cartels with gun running once and that went sour, therefore he thinking pre cautiously about the Marks Enterprise. But of course his "ethics" with judgement see just another disaster but worser with a black enterprise. Yet clay may actually be under Marks Enterprise but the kings don't care since they going to get him out. Jax should know by now that war is unavoidable and need to take the Irish out.

What's up with the DA? Why won't she turn Nero loose? And why did she feel the need to take her wig off?

BOBBY'S BACK!!!!

"Sorry for my behavior today."

Not sure what is up with the D.A. She wont let Nero go due to her trying to use the charges against him to try and nail the club.

Bobby is back but with new members, he claims no power play but I call b.s. I still thought they were going Nomad so that surprised me them going to Redwood.