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Re: Anthony casso [Re: GaryH] #735976
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Yep, 100% a rat. He got hosed on both ends- fellow mobsters and the feds. His wife was extorted a lot of money from a mobster, as he knew that nobody would come to her aid. This continued until she dropped dead.


Who was the mobster?, some guy nicknamed "The bug" or something like that wasn't it?

I agree, Casso is a rat.

Say what you will about guys like Carmine Persico and Bruno Indelicato but they are 100% cosa nostra, they didn't rat.

Casso and Massino were both gangsters on the wrong side of the law until it didn't suit their purpose anymore and they flipped.
Same goes for Bill Cutolo's son, he was a gangster until his Poppa got killed and he knew he couldn't do anything about it so he ran to the law expecting help and protection when both he and his father had always operated on the other side of law and order

Why does everyone hate Bill Cutolo Jr so bad ? I mean at least he didn't kill Jackie DeRoss and Little Allie Boy when he had the chance. Like "Wild" Bill told his son : " I wish death before jail."

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I'm sure any hidden cash or valuables are removed from that house. I can imagine how much money he had hidden up in that mansion at one point.

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736083
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^Your pic is Christie Furnari right?

Re: Anthony casso [Re: LittleMan] #736138
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Originally Posted By: LittleMan
Yep, 100% a rat. He got hosed on both ends- fellow mobsters and the feds. His wife was extorted a lot of money from a mobster, as he knew that nobody would come to her aid. This continued until she dropped dead. Gas got screwed since his biggest crime as a government witness was telling the truth about Sammy Gravano and a crooked FBI agent.

As far as his money is concerned....his biography didn't give exact figures, but it was a lot. He specialized in drugs and he would bring them in via shrimp trawlers and ship them
across the country in moving trucks. Guys like Sammy Gravano and Burt Kaplan were his wholesale customers.

He didn't even want to be a capo, let alone the boss, because he was making too much money and didn't want to be bogged down by settling disputes with other family members. He was content to report to the consigliere (Christy Tick) and be left alone to focus on his rackets.


Maybe Casso got screwed by the FBI- But we will never know because we weren't there. But before you go feeling sorry for him just think about all the people Casso screwed- hundreds of them. There were some rumors reported on the forum about him possibly getting transferred to a lower risk prison- anyone know if there is any truth to that or is he still in Colorado???

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736142
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It shouldn't matter if he got screwed, hes a piece of shit who killed 36 people, he got a taste of his own medicine. If he would of just being an actual cooperating witness instead of fighting the gov he could of been out but he had to be the boss still and start saying Sammy dealt drugs and all. There is no doubt in my mind he would of continued a life of crime on the outside, him and Gravano are exactly where they need to be.

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736178
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In all fairness though, it was gravano's kids who were involved with the ecstasy ring. He just took the fall for them. But it's karma for the bad things he's done in that past so it evens out.

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736179
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I dont care if Gravano had 100 kids with bow and arrows through their heads, hes still a piece of shit lol just kidding

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736184
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Originally Posted By: Revis_Island
In all fairness though, it was gravano's kids who were involved with the ecstasy ring. He just took the fall for them. But it's karma for the bad things he's done in that past so it evens out.


Not sure where you got that idea. Gravano was involved in the ring as well, not just his kids.


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Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736185
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Lol that's Paulie Walnuts talking about Ralphie Ciffaretto! How I miss that show. I wish they were still running making new episodes today.

Re: Anthony casso [Re: IvyLeague] #736186
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
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In all fairness though, it was gravano's kids who were involved with the ecstasy ring. He just took the fall for them. But it's karma for the bad things he's done in that past so it evens out.


Not sure where you got that idea. Gravano was involved in the ring as well, not just his kids.


That's what Karen said. But we all don't know for sure of course. She said it in her book.

Re: Anthony casso [Re: MobMan] #736324
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Why does everyone hate Bill Cutolo Jr so bad ? I mean at least he didn't kill Jackie DeRoss and Little Allie Boy when he had the chance. Like "Wild" Bill told his son : " I wish death before jail."



Bill Cutolo Junior would still be with the Colombo's if his Dad hadn't been killed.
Cutolo Senior and Cutolo Junior both operated on the wrong side of the law!
When Wild Bill died, his son went crying to the cops for help.
Bill Junior needs to understand that his Dad died because he was a gangster!
I'm sorry but I cant respect someone who lives as a tough guy gangster then turns his tail and runs to the law for help when things don't go his way!

At least Al Demeo didn't rat on his father murderers.
Al understood that whilst he loved his Dad, Roy had done many hideous things and died as a result of his life.

That's why I have tremendous respect for Sonny Black, I don't like the things he did in life but I respect the man for staying true to what he was, not ratting and going to that final meeting knowing what fate awaited him. The guy had balls that's for sure

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736346
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Yea if you want to see a true gangster staying to the code Sonny Black was one of them. I'm sure there were others we didn't know about as well that has done the same.

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736466
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I really want cassos kids to write a book

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736474
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I herd the same about the ring..I just cant get if you are putting 500,000.00 a day in cash away for years.And i am sure it was more .What do these guys do with cash....Not just him but thousands just like him. I still have the same thousands in a pvc tube for 30 years , and i cut it open like each ten years to see what the money does . And it stays fine under ground .so i do more and more. I use schedule 80 it costs more but it works glue the ends up real good...put them 8" down mow the field no problem

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Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736487
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I remember reading in Carlo's book that Gaspipe set up Roy DeMeo using the Gemini Twins and that once they did the work that they were working for him then now on. No mention of this is made in Murder Machine, only that Gaggi, in all probability, killed DeMeo.

Could someone a little more well informed comment on this?

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Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736490
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When murder machine came out in 1990 I beleive Casso hadn't flipped yet. So there was only speculation that Nino did it, but than Casso flipped in '94 and revealed it was the twins who did it at patty testas house. Casso wasn't a good witness as we have all come to see so but their really isn't a reason for him to lie with this, so most everyone buys the story the he gave.

Re: Anthony casso [Re: bobbytran] #736491
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Originally Posted By: bobbytran
When murder machine came out in 1990 I beleive Casso hadn't flipped yet. So there was only speculation that Nino did it, but than Casso flipped in '94 and revealed it was the twins who did it at patty testas house. Casso wasn't a good witness as we have all come to see so but their really isn't a reason for him to lie with this, so most everyone buys the story the he gave.


This is interesting, because didn't the Twins continue to work for Gaggi after DeMeo was killed? If so, doesn't that sort of negate Gaspipe's claim then?

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736498
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Yeah it is weired, im sure the immediate aftermath of Demeo's murder they were still considered under Gaggi's thumb, but then in '84 everyone gets indicted so im sure they all layed low after that, than Gaggi gets convicted in '86 and goes to jail the twins don't. It was probably around that time they began to work for Casso as he says they were the shooters of that russian guy in June of '86, and also the shooters of the mistaken Nicky Guido in December of that year. They certinatley worked for Casso theirs pictures of the twins with him, Frank Lastorino, and some other bigwig and that was probably when he was underboss so if you're a couple associates from another family you just don't sit with the top guys from another family.

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736499
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Thanks for the info.

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736512
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I think the Twins were given to Gaspipe as a reward for his help.
By the time of Roys death, Henry Borelli and Freddie Dinome were both in jail.
Vito Arena had flipped.
Rosenberg was long dead
The twins were the only core crew members worth anything

Re: Anthony casso [Re: Revis_Knicks] #736515
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Was that Testa who shot the wrong Nicky Guido?

I know Casso had them kill that russian. Testa shot him and Senter was the wheelman.

How many other hits did the Twins do for Gaspipe?

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Yep, Testa was part of the Christmas day hit on the innocent guy.
Eppolitio and Caracappa gave the wrong guys details to Gaspipe

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Gaspipe is a real character. They really should do a movie on him and the Mafia Cops. I think it would be pretty good. DeNiro could play Casso.

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Testa and Senter were also backup shooters in the '87 hit on carmine varile and the other guy i forget, which were the last 2 murders in the botched judge Arnwonald hit done by Joe Waverly. Frank Smith, the shooter flipped in '01 which ultimatley led to Cacace being indicted.

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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
Gaspipe is a real character. They really should do a movie on him and the Mafia Cops. I think it would be pretty good. DeNiro could play Casso.


Much as I like DeNiro, he's 70 years old and too old to play Gaspipe

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Originally Posted By: GaryH
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Gaspipe is a real character. They really should do a movie on him and the Mafia Cops. I think it would be pretty good. DeNiro could play Casso.

Much as I like DeNiro, he's 70 years old and too old to play Gaspipe

Gas is 73, but i do see your point about playing a younger Casso. Not sure then who i would go with, all my favorite actors are getting up there in age. Shame DeNiro isn't younger, i really think he could of nailed the part.

The movie would be on both Gaspipe and the Mafia Cops. I really think it would do decent boxoffice too. A lunatic gangster and his 2 corrupt homicidal hitmen cops.

Oh yeah...Academy Award winner all the way!! lol

Re: Anthony casso [Re: bobbytran] #736789
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Originally Posted By: bobbytran
Yeah it is weired, im sure the immediate aftermath of Demeo's murder they were still considered under Gaggi's thumb, but then in '84 everyone gets indicted so im sure they all layed low after that, than Gaggi gets convicted in '86 and goes to jail the twins don't. It was probably around that time they began to work for Casso as he says they were the shooters of that russian guy in June of '86, and also the shooters of the mistaken Nicky Guido in December of that year. They certinatley worked for Casso theirs pictures of the twins with him, Frank Lastorino, and some other bigwig and that was probably when he was underboss so if you're a couple associates from another family you just don't sit with the top guys from another family.
Bobby as hot as they were ,What do u think Casso the only one crazy unstable to get with them..do u think they were wanted by some other boss.


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^Your pic is Christie Furnari right?


That's correct!

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Yeah it is weired, im sure the immediate aftermath of Demeo's murder they were still considered under Gaggi's thumb, but then in '84 everyone gets indicted so im sure they all layed low after that, than Gaggi gets convicted in '86 and goes to jail the twins don't. It was probably around that time they began to work for Casso as he says they were the shooters of that russian guy in June of '86, and also the shooters of the mistaken Nicky Guido in December of that year. They certinatley worked for Casso theirs pictures of the twins with him, Frank Lastorino, and some other bigwig and that was probably when he was underboss so if you're a couple associates from another family you just don't sit with the top guys from another family.
Bobby as hot as they were ,What do u think Casso the only one crazy unstable to get with them..do u think they were wanted by some other boss.


Im sure their reputations were known by the other bosses and people within the families, especially Brooklyn, but they were also known as heavy drug users so the old timers probably wouldn't want that, certinatley not the Genovese. The Bonnanos probably would of taken them in if they had a chance, someone like Pitera or Bruno Indelicato.

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is casso still in jail...just finished reading the book and was curious?

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