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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #970892
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If someone understand french, you should listen to the interview. You can find it on the internet with google.
Its called Narcos PQ

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If someone understand french, you should listen to the interview. You can find it on the internet with google.
Its called Narcos PQ


Vito Rizzuto still resonates in the United States: listen to the last episode of the Narcos PQ podcast
A famous policeman remembers his intelligence

Monday, May 6, 2019 01:00
UPDATE Monday, May 6, 2019 01:00
The name Vito Rizzuto, the last godfather of the Montreal mafia, still rings in the offices of the American drug police, who consider him one of the smartest criminals of his time.

This is what can be learned from an interview with Mike Vigil, the former chief of international operations of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA).

It is broadcast today in the fourth episode of Narcos PQ , a podcast produced by our Investigation Bureau.

With Pablo Escobar

The US agency dedicated to the eradication of drug trafficking began to take an interest in Rizzuto during the war that shook the New York mafia 40 years ago. It was in 1981 that the Montreal criminal committed the triple murder of three rivals of the Bonanno family.

"He laundered money with the help of companies, through the trafficking of diamonds and gold, but it was his many fictitious companies that allowed him to leach out very large amounts of money," he says. former agent.

"He was probably smarter than the mafia."

Mike Vigil also claims that the DEA's surveillance operations prove that the late godfather was doing business with the Colombian drug cartels, including the Medellin cartel led by Baron Pablo Escobar.

To his knowledge, Rizzuto has never met Escobar in person, as this kind of meeting would have been too compromising for the Mafioso.

"He let his associates take care of this so as not to expose themselves too much," says the man who hunted down the biggest drug traffickers, including the Mexican El Chapo Guzman, from the Sinaloa cartel.

Politicians in his pocket

The former DEA officer says he has proof that Vito Rizzuto has succeeded in corrupting politicians.

"I will not name names, but he had politicians and policemen in his pocket. He had managed to bribe several people. "

He paints an extremely dark portrait of the activities of his clan in Montreal from the early 1980s until his death from pneumonia on December 23, 2013.

"He blew so much blood, he imported so many drugs that poisoned so many Canadians. He alone has damaged the social fabric of this beautiful country. "

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/05/06/vito-rizzuto-resonne-encore-aux-etats-unis


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #970906
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There will never be another Vito Rizzuto

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #970907
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Wasn't the Scoppa brothers at odds with each other when Silva shot at one of them? Or am I thinking of someone else?

This is a huge hit in terms of power and drugs in Montreal. I think this could be the first hit since Leonardo Rizzuto got out of jail? Or at least the first major hit? This could swing things for sure as I think they are still in power in Montreal (meaning Sollecito/Rizzuto)

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #970986
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https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...hese-des-siciliens-la-plus-plausible.php

MURDER OF SALVATORE SCOPPA

THE THESIS OF THE SICILIANS THE MOST PLAUSIBLE
DANIEL RENAUD
THE PRESS
The Sûreté du Québec (SQ) believes that the Sicilian clan of the Montreal mafia could be behind the murder of Salvatore Scoppa, shot in front of several stunned witnesses in the lobby of the busy Sheraton Hotel in Laval on Saturday night.

"Let's say that for the moment, this is the hypothesis that is at the top of the list. But the investigation is just beginning. There are other hypotheses, and things could change down the road, "said yesterday in La Presse a police source who requested anonymity.

The police do not believe, however, that the individual linked to the Rizzuto clan who was in another reception room at the hotel on Saturday night, for a wedding, is related to the crime.

The SQ already seems to want to rule out the possibility that Salvatore Scoppa was killed for a cocaine import case that allegedly explained his stay in Peru a few months ago.

Two people told La Presse that the family party at which Salvatore Scoppa took part on Saturday night was organized on the occasion of the confirmation of one of his children, but this information could not be confirmed with the SQ.

By the time he was killed, Scoppa was accompanied by a bodyguard, who however could not do anything.

Sources said that Salvatore Scoppa, known to be constantly on the lookout, or even paranoid, may have dropped his guard Saturday night, because the chances that he will be shot in the lobby of a hotel, in front of witnesses and during a family party, were, we could logically think, rather thin. But things have changed over the years in the mafia.

The investigators began to watch videos captured by the hotel's surveillance cameras.

Few details filtered about the two suspects, the shooter and another man, who were in the lobby when the crime was committed. It is also unknown whether the faces of the individuals were hidden or not.

A BIT OF CONTEXT

Salvatore Scoppa was the brother of Andrew Scoppa, considered by the police as an influential chieftain of the Montreal mafia.

The Scoppa began to make themselves known in the early 1990s. According to the police, they were then involved in the heroin and cocaine trade, and reportedly controlled areas in Parc-Extension, Mile End and East of France. Montreal. Their trade would not have been without conflicts with other traffickers. According to police documents, Andrew Scoppa was reportedly the target of three bombings in the mid-1990s.

The Scoppa, like some clans still active in the mafia, have always had the reputation of being independent, but they were nonetheless allies of leaders of the Montreal mafia, the Rizzuto (Sicilians).

After the arrest of Vito Rizzuto in 2004, the Scoppa remained neutral in the attempted coup against the Sicilians in the absence of the godfather, then held in the United States.

After returning from Vito Rizzuto to Montreal in the fall of 2012, police officers observed the sponsor with Andrew Scoppa a few times, according to court documents.

In December 2013, a few days before his death, Vito Rizzuto summoned some influential Mafia members, including Salvatore Scoppa, to his home in Laval to invite them to make peace, police sources told La Presse .

But tensions then appeared between Scoppa and those who took over from the godfather. In 2015, Sicilian clan leaders discussed the possibility of eliminating Salvatore Scoppa during a conversation in the office of former criminal lawyer Loris Cavaliere.

In 2016, three influential Mafiosos, including Rocco Sollecito, father of Stefano Sollecito, acting head of the Mafia, were killed and the police suspected Salvatore Scoppa of having been involved in at least one of these murders, even though he was never charged.

The relationship between Salvatore and Andrew Scoppa was not always good, according to several police, judicial and criminal sources.

"We'll see if blood ties are stronger," said a source close to the criminal scene.

To contact Daniel Renaud, call 514 285-7000, ext. 4918, write to drenaud@lapresse.ca or write to La Presse's mailing address .

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Scalish] #971007
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Originally Posted by Scalish
I am watching this show Bad blood it really sucks.


Quite possibly one of the worst television shows in history, unwatchable.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #971008
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Yep it really is. Now they have a second season out.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #971042
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The Scoppa hit is more proof that the Italian mafia stronghold of the streets of Montreal is coming to an end. Although there is no true honour amongst thieves, killings in front of family is not the Italian way.
This has hells angels written all over it.

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If true it was well planned at the same time they had their first run of the year. Salvatore Cazzetta is still running montreal.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #971051
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Almost every influential person involved in this conflict lost at least one family member.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Stu_Katz] #971064
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Originally Posted by Stu_Katz
The Scoppa hit is more proof that the Italian mafia stronghold of the streets of Montreal is coming to an end. Although there is no true honour amongst thieves, killings in front of family is not the Italian way.
This has hells angels written all over it.



The mafia kill in front of families also.
Less often then street gangs, but they do it sometime.
In front of thw family, kids, wife

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #971065
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Did Salvatore Cazzetta ever win that lawsuit for 2 million against Quebec?

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Originally Posted by Stu_Katz
The Scoppa hit is more proof that the Italian mafia stronghold of the streets of Montreal is coming to an end. Although there is no true honour amongst thieves, killings in front of family is not the Italian way.
This has hells angels written all over it.


So what about the past 3 killings that were done at home with the families inside? Does that not count as killing in front of family?

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #971078
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Originally Posted by Ciment

Almost every influential person involved in this conflict lost at least one family member.


Yes the end of the conflict is still far away peace talks are the only way to end this.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Stu_Katz] #971083
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Originally Posted by Stu_Katz
killings in front of family is not the Italian way.


Bless your heart, you obviously don't follow Montreal at all.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #971099
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Killing in front of the family not the Italian way?
In Naples and Calabria for instance there were more than a few instances where a car was riddled with bullets with wife still inside.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #971104
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There were alot of rules back in the 40's until maybe the eighties when it came to the Italian mafia like not killing wives stuff like that but unfortunately now a days they are more like a street gangs and don't really follow much of a code anymore. I mean look at the nut Casso when he ordered a hit on Chiodos sister.

Remember as well that here in Canada most of the Italians farm their hits out to blacks and bikers, so they could care less who they kill.and in front of whoever.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Scalish] #971112
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Originally Posted by Scalish
There were alot of rules back in the 40's until maybe the eighties when it came to the Italian mafia like not killing wives stuff like that but unfortunately now a days they are more like a street gangs and don't really follow much of a code anymore. I mean look at the nut Casso when he ordered a hit on Chiodos sister.

Remember as well that here in Canada most of the Italians farm their hits out to blacks and bikers, so they could care less who they kill.and in front of whoever.


Hence my point. Italians aren’t running the streets no more. No one gets whacked in front of family without a Large retaliation. It only happens when there’s no fear nor reservation. The Italians ( whoever’s left of course) have made their money, laundered it, and now are running “legitimate” businesses. Nobody wants to get their nails dirty anymore. Yes, they may be still the drug importers, but their dominance and control of the retail side of the business has dwindled. Montreal is like an open city, no ones afraid of anyone anymore.

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I agree with you there especially in Montreal I think it is wide open. Here in Hamilton at least I think the Italians are still the strongest not by much though.

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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
The Irish are still a factor in dowtown montreal and the South western part of Montreal.
Sure we don’t ear alot of those groups compared to the 90s.

Many groups are present in Montreal, but they are mosly cells. You have the vietnamese that are most known for the production of marijuana. You also have the turks that deal alot of heroin.

One group that have become stronger each years, are the arabs groups. You can see that they deal mainly with the italians and the haitians. They probably deal eith other groups, like the bikers.

Also, Montreal has Russian groups, that the leaders are from Toronto. In the prostituion rings in Montreal, the news mostly talk about young haitians that get caught because they have one or two girls in there grips. But its known, that the russians are pretty big in prostitution also.


Yeah the Irish won't go anywhere, a tough bunch.


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Originally Posted by Scalish
Did Salvatore Cazzetta ever win that lawsuit for 2 million against Quebec?


He also has some tax problems, but that case is still pending.


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The Irish have the port that's a huge advance.


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Thx Hollander. I had no idea the Irish still had the porr been a long time.

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Originally Posted by Scalish
Thx Hollander. I had no idea the Irish still had the porr been a long time.


They have still over 100 men.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #971196
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No shit. You know any of their names?

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Originally Posted by Scalish
No shit. You know any of their names?


Not really ,the Arcadi crew did a lot of business with them as well as the Hells Angels.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #971201
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I know in the stupid show bad blood it shows the Irish involved just never hear any names. I think the only Irish Canadian gangster I ever heard of.was Dunie Ryan and that was a long time ago.

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Donnie Matticks is one of their top guys now I would assume.

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Originally Posted by Stu_Katz
Hence my point. Italians aren’t running the streets no more. No one gets whacked in front of family without a Large retaliation. It only happens when there’s no fear nor reservation. The Italians ( whoever’s left of course) have made their money, laundered it, and now are running “legitimate” businesses. Nobody wants to get their nails dirty anymore. Yes, they may be still the drug importers, but their dominance and control of the retail side of the business has dwindled. Montreal is like an open city, no ones afraid of anyone anymore.


if the mafia in montreal didn't kill so much like new york they would have said it was dead

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Originally Posted by Scalish
No shit. You know any of their names?


Gerald Matticks, was said to be the boss.
Donald Matticks, son of Gerald, is said to be one of the leaders
Donald Driver
Darrell Van Elk is one of its leaders.
Byron Cullen is Elk second in command.
Billy MacAllister
Shane Maloney
James Ashton is another leader.
George Harris
Larry Cooney, an enforcer for the gang.
Kenny Fisher
Martin Rowland
Kevin O'Brian
O'Neill, McPolland, and McGuire brothers.
There are many too list.


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