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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #679852
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So is Frank Caruso one of the most powerful capos in the outfit today? Or is it Matassa, Pete Difronzo, ect

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Tootsie Caruso is the boss of Chinatown & has been for over a decade now, yes that family is extremely powerful. Pete is extremely wealthy & powerful as well, matassa is not near either of them in terms of power, but also a very serious guy.

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Originally Posted By: ricobenes
Tootsie Caruso is the boss of Chinatown & has been for over a decade now, yes that family is extremely powerful. Pete is extremely wealthy & powerful as well, matassa is not near either of them in terms of power, but also a very serious guy.


I mean I would assume he's a very series guy could you please elaborate? I think I changed my mind and would go with Difronzo I don't follow the outfit as closely as other members of this board do but hasn't Difronzo's allegiance been questioned before I feel that he may feed some information to the feds in order to keep things running no?

Is he involved with unions? Chicago Construction Companies seem to run deep when they can outbid a non-union company by $50 million dollars on a job!


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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
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Tootsie Caruso is the boss of Chinatown & has been for over a decade now, yes that family is extremely powerful. Pete is extremely wealthy & powerful as well, matassa is not near either of them in terms of power, but also a very serious guy.


I mean I would assume he's a very series guy could you please elaborate? I think I changed my mind and would go with Difronzo I don't follow the outfit as closely as other members of this board do but hasn't Difronzo's allegiance been questioned before I feel that he may feed some information to the feds in order to keep things running no?

Is he involved with unions? Chicago Construction Companies seem to run deep when they can outbid a non-union company by $50 million dollars on a job!


I'm sorry I don't know who or what we are comparing.

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Who has the most influence within the outfit? Everyone thinks their such a mystery I think they have a lot of legitimate business's that launder a lot of money that's just be speculating though I'm not an expert on the outfit


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #679897
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Influence is such a broad term. Influence in regards to what? If you're talking the two most respected, powerful guys, you have to say probably Johnny Bananas or Jimmy Inendino, but they are old, old men. Bananas in particular is a little old man that you can see driving down Harlem every day getting coffee and going home to his little two flat. Those guys aren't active street guys in any way, but they're probably the two most respected elder statesmen & garner the most respect. Johnny never even wanted to be boss, it was dumped on him when Marcello went away the first time. Elmwood park isn't so much active on the street. They've even let Cicero have a lot of their turf. Elmwood is large grocery store chains, huge legitimate companies, casinos, condos, and so forth. Not to say there aren't still feared hard heads in Elmwood, but its absolutely nothing like Cicero, Chinatown, or even grand ave or the heights. If you want real old time, old school Chicago outfit, you go out to Lombard, Westchester, bridgeport, Berwyn, etc. As far as most feared, id say guys like Tootsie & Solly D are still very powerful, very feared individuals. They are still relatively young(ish) & active on the street, especially the Carusos. The older guys aren't anything to worry about anymore, no one is worried about johnny bananas geriatric ass breaking down their door lol. The young guys control a lot now, especially young Cicero guys, and you won't hear their names until 10-15 maybe 20 years from now, if they ever get popped for anything. I'm sure it'll happen eventually

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^^ Yeah I bet your a solider lol


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Lol you wish. Then you could all run & tell your buddies that you talked to a real outfit guy!!

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Originally Posted By: ricobenes
Lol you wish. Then you could all run & tell your buddies that you talked to a real outfit guy!!


lol Yeah whatever man The outfit my ass lol


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Haha go ahead & think that Italian street level crime in Chicago doesn't exist, they love guys like you. Keep them under the radar.

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Also I believe you implied pudge matassa has more power than Tootsie Caruso & Pete DiFronzo...what would lead you to assume that?

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Who the fuck is pudge matassa



I haven't been able to shit in two days ...


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Haha dicknose you're killing me lol lol lol


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But I've also heard that Difronzo might be an informant as well. Not to say I also haven't heard the top echelon of Chicago is loaded in terms of owning property and money.


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Are you kidding? The DiFronzos own tons of property and are millionaire's.
And dicknose pudgy matassa is the captain of the cicero crew

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Sorry nicky that was a typo on my part. I "have" heard that Difronzo and company are very wealthy


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: NickyEyes1] #679955
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Are you kidding? The DiFronzos own tons of property and are millionaire's.
And dicknose pudgy matassa is the captain of the cicero crew


I love how you're an expert on the outfit now since you've asked Ricobenes a few questions lol

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When did i ever say i was an expert? I never asked any of the things he told me in my post because i knew that before. Nice try

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
When did i ever say i was an expert? I never asked any of the things he told me in my post because i knew that before. Nice try


lol Nicky i was kidding it was just funny that after 4 pages of your questions you started providing the answers

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Ok but everything i know wasn't from asking questions on here

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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Haha dicknose you're killing me lol lol lol


The best laugh today had gotta be the roy demeo andy warhol colored portrait on mobguys facebook


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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Ok but everything i know wasn't from asking questions on here


Well done then clap

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What's his facebook name

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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Haha dicknose you're killing me lol lol lol


The best laugh today had gotta be the roy demeo andy warhol colored portrait on mobguys facebook


You're kidding me lol Link?

I'm not gullible btw i just wouldn't be surprised lol

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
What's his facebook name


Paul Castellano i'm not sure exactly though cos he can't be the first guy with that name lol

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Yeah there's like 50 of them

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Yeah there's like 50 of them


Found it wink

http://en-gb.facebook.com/paul.castellano.14

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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Who the fuck is pudge matassa



I haven't been able to shit in two days ...


LMAOOOO
Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
But I've also heard that Difronzo might be an informant as well. Not to say I also haven't heard the top echelon of Chicago is loaded in terms of owning property and money.


It is interesting that he escaped prosecution in the family secrets case especially when nick calabrese named him in open court as being involved in the spilotro murders...does make you wonder especially since the feds said they have a few high ranking outfit guys who have been informing for the fbi for decades.


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Who the fuck is pudge matassa



I haven't been able to shit in two days ...


LMAOOOO
Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
But I've also heard that Difronzo might be an informant as well. Not to say I also haven't heard the top echelon of Chicago is loaded in terms of owning property and money.


It is interesting that he escaped prosecution in the family secrets case especially when nick calabrese named him in open court as being involved in the spilotro murders...does make you wonder especially since the feds said they have a few high ranking outfit guys who have been informing for the fbi for decades.


Nick didn't just name him as being at the murders, he also mentioned him as representing Jack Cerone/Elmwood Park at his making ceremony, which is also pretty huge. Whatever he did, it worked. He drives around the city like some middle class old man.

Also, pudge matassa is an Elmwood park guy now. He was under Vince solano on rush street for years, and went to Elmwood after they deactivated rush st & sanctioned it into elmwood, he's supposedly under Marco out there.

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