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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: IvyLeague] #790680
07/21/14 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: pmac
This thread is long and not trying to troll are there 28 made guys in Chicago? In Boston there like 15+ but its a small city and like 15 spread out down to Rhode island. How old is john no nose today? Baby shacks was active getting his strip club payments rite till the feds took himaway in 2011 at like 84 think he's 87 and gets out in like 1yr. Probaly be boss again. That guy Sarno took that 30yrs like a boss. He's coming out in a casket.


I count 24 total members in Boston. 13 total members in Providence. And another 3 in Connecticut. That's 40 total known members - active, inactive, or in prison. There may be some others but, even then, I expect the total would be no more than 50 or so.


And we all know what you say is GOLD!!

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #791178
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Guys can you tell me what are the best websites to go on to get the latest Mob news,
I'm on here, gangland news, and Cosa nostra news.
Thanks

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #792488
07/29/14 01:50 AM
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It mind fucks me that people actually think the Chicago outfit is dead..Insane. Chicago land area is home to over 700,000 people of Italian decent. Only Jersey and New York has more. If Boston has 30 made members then Chicago most definitely has more the 28 made members. It seems the only people that think the Chicago Outfit is dead are inferiority complex assholes from the east coast. Any time a thread or article pops up one here about the Chicago Outfit these east coast guys come out of the wood work like crack heads trying to disprove anything Chicago related.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #792491
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No one on this site ever said ever said the outfit was dead...


"Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in poverty. I've been a poor man, and I've been a rich man. And I choose rich every fucking time."

-Jordan Belfort
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #792501
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People are really sensitive on this subject we all know here the outfit is not dead but they are not what some people make them out to be as well.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Dellacroce] #792583
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
No one on this site ever said ever said the outfit was dead...


Correct. Dago is simply trying to create a strawman argument he can easily knock down. And it's rather ironic that he thinks it's the East Coast posters who have an inferiority complex. It's the Chicago posters, more than any other, that have a reputation for getting a bug up their butt about the rep of their hometown crime family.


Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #792587
07/29/14 11:55 AM
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I agree.

The Chicago threads here actually have stability for the first time in years - no need to come in here and start an argument over something that nobody is espousing.


"Snakes... Snakes... I don't know no Snakes."
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #792589
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Double post

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: IvyLeague] #792594
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
No one on this site ever said ever said the outfit was dead...


Correct. Dago is simply trying to create a strawman argument he can easily knock down. And it's rather ironic that he thinks it's the East Coast posters who have an inferiority complex. It's the Chicago posters, more than any other, that have a reputation for getting a bug up their butt about the rep of their hometown crime family.



so dagofromchicago is the reason you're posting in this thread?

you declared grand avenue defunct from your telescope and it ain't the case

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #792619
07/29/14 01:35 PM
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Cmon man, I don't recall ivyleague ever once saying that. You're giving us Chicago posters a bad name. And who gives a shit If someone from out of town thinks Grand Avenue Crew is defunct? Who really cares? Because compared to the old days, when they had control of the Vegas strip & the West Coast operations in Denver, Phoenix, etc etc, They might as well be. But either way, who cares? Trying to convince someone to think the way You do is something women do.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #792621
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #792863
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Cmon man, I don't recall ivyleague ever once saying that. You're giving us Chicago posters a bad name. And who gives a shit If someone from out of town thinks Grand Avenue Crew is defunct? Who really cares? Because compared to the old days, when they had control of the Vegas strip & the West Coast operations in Denver, Phoenix, etc etc, They might as well be. But either way, who cares? Trying to convince someone to think the way You do is something women do.


It's been obvious to everyone for some time now that cookcounty is content to just make stuff up. He realizes everyone here sees him for the troll he is and has embraced it.


Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #792910
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@ivyleague

so i'm making up your east coast bias?

you don't come into threads with your complete disdain for chicago?

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: cookcounty] #792913
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OK guys, cut it out!


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794101
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question, culotta recently stated on facebook that he knows who the shooter of giancana is.. do you guys think this is credible?

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794125
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It's long been maintained (but never proven) that Butch Blasi was the shooter. Not sure who Culotta has in mind, though.


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794153
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Maybe from street gossip he thinks he knows, but he wasn't high enough at any point to have ever been privy to that kind of information.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794154
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I heard the Giancana shooter was Carmine Ragusa from Milwaukee...

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794173
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Cullotta was nothing more than an Outfit-connected thief. When he flipped, he provided jack shit on the Outfit's power structure. He's just looking for attention (and money).

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794188
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I don't even think he was brought in to testify in the Family Secrets trial.


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794304
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Who knows.

It's not like he doesn't know anything.

It's possible.

Let's put it this way, I'm sure he's heard a lot of rumors over the years.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794382
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Don't know why, but I was just thinking about Mandell calling Vena a "bmw gangster". Wonder if Mandell realizes being a BMW gangster these days is the equivalent of a gangster driving around in a Caddy in the 40s/50s/60s lol.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Snakes] #794429
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Does anyone know how active the Chicago Heights Crew is today (without giving up too much info, lol)?

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794434
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Depends on who you ask. Most people believe that those rackets have been absorbed by the South Side crew. The Outfit just doesn't have the manpower to cover the territory that they used to, including the Heights and their subsidiary territories in NW Indiana.


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: ShineboxTommy] #794465
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Originally Posted By: ShineboxTommy
Does anyone know how active the Chicago Heights Crew is today (without giving up too much info, lol)?

The heights used to be one of the major Italian areas of Chicago. The neighborhood started going downhill in the 80s. It's now mostly Mexican and black but there's still some Italian pockets and it is visible. I'd say around 15% Italian overall but of course higher in individual neighborhoods.

And yes to your question but like snakes said, it got a absorbed and now an extension instead of a crew.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794502
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^^^^^

they were in cal city for a minute

there are alot of italians in the south suburban area

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794533
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There's a descent amount on the south side but nowhere near the amount of the northwest side. Elmwood , Melrose, Norridge, Addison, Westchester,ect all have the largest Italian populations in the city.

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794539
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I can't imagine getting defensive over local organized crime. If someone told me all OC in Winnipeg is dead, I'd be pretty stoked about it.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #794543
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The Heights was always a prime spot for bookmaking and a lot of strip clubs. I would also agree the guys who were left in the Heights were absorbed into 26th street. I would assume Nick Guzzino is still down there and likely leading something. A lot of the sons are still running their fathers businesses too - like Swanel Beverage Co.

That would also include the guys in NW Indiana like the Nuzzo brothers.

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Thanks everybody for the info!

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