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#678942 - 11/25/12 03:50 PM Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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Does anybody know who all 28 government recognized made Outfit members were as of the Family Secrets trial, Who were they and how many have died since?,besides Al Tornabene

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#678970 - 11/25/12 05:18 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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There are some OK-ish charts floating around that will give you as good an idea as you're going to get. Check out Scott Burnstein's chart. It's not literal, IMO, i.e. characterzing all of those people as "soldiers" as if they're out there every day doing the Outfit's dirty work, IMO, is not accurate at all.

But if will give you a fair idea of who's involved... a lot of them are dead since that chart was put out though.

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#678985 - 11/25/12 06:17 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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Yeah I was looking at that and I agree very exaggerated, What I got from it wasn't anything new really I got The Brothers DiFrinzo John,Peter,and Joe,plus Andriachi,Mattassa,Cullotta,Magnafichi,Fratto,James Indecino,Chris Spina,and some guys Scalise,and Sal DeLaurentis as well plus 3 Caruso's and possibly D'Amico and Sarno all in all thats that's a max of 17 and Tornabene who's dead and te three Jailbirds Lombardo,Marcello,an Calabrese ,Who's the other ten the government supposedly knows and we don't


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#678993 - 11/25/12 06:31 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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This is from some posters particularly Pete83 and McScott on the other side.

Andriacchi and Joe Kong Cullotta are both sick with cancer and are inactive/retired Fratto seems to be on the outs with the higher ups since his conviction and hasnt been that active in Elmwood Park for years. He operates his extorion rackets mostly in the western suburbs Pudgy Matassa was never the boss of Cicero. He drives around Solly D on his daily rounds

Boss John Difronzo Street Boss Vacant (Rumored to be either Solly C Cautadella or Solly D Delaurentis but no official word yet) Consiglieri Marco D'amico

Elmwood Park Boss Peter Difronzo

Grand Avenue Boss Albert Vena

Cicero Boss Salvatore Delaurentis

Chinatown Boss Frank Toots Caruso

Also interesting to note is the old wild bunch crew seems to still be active with Jimmy Inendino being the head of that faction. they are a subcrew of Cicero though as they always were.

Caporegimes: Elmwood Park Peter “Greedy Petey” Di Fronzo Crew Street Boss Rudy “The Chin/Uncle Rudy” Fratto (will be replaced by Don Scalise while locked up) & Michael “Mikey Mags/Good Looking Mike” Magnaficchi MP/Cicero/Lake Cty John “Pudgy” Matassa, Jr. Crew Street Boss Michael “Fat Mikey/The Beard” Sarno James “Jimmy the Ice Pick/Jimmy I” Inendino Michael “Big Mike” Spano West Side Joseph “Joe Kong” Cullotta Crew Street Boss Christopher “Christy the Nose” Spina South Side Frank “Tootsie Babe” Caruso Crew Street Boss Leo Caruso/Bruno Caruso

Soldiers (star by name denotes higher status than others) Joe Abate – West Side* Joe Albano – South Side Robert “Bobby the Truck Driver/Bobby A” Abbinanti – Elmwood Park * Andy Affrunti – Melrose Park Anthony Alemam – Melrose Park * Frank Amabile – Melrose Park Joe Amabile – Melrose Park Jimmy Amabile – Melrose Park Ralph Amadeo – Melrose Park Tony Andriacchi – Elmwood Park * Donnie Andriacchi –Elmwood Park * Bobby Angelo – South Side Constance “Connie” Antongiovanni – West Side Michael Annecca, Sr – West Side Michael Annecca, Jr – West Side Joey Annecca – West Side Victor “Popeye” Arigo – Elmwood Park * Vince Auriema – Melrose Park Paul Balzano – South Side Phil Balzano – South Side Fred Barbara – South Side * Dominic “The Brow” Barbaro – South Side * Dominic Basso – Elmwood Park/FLA * Vincent Basso – Elmwood Park * Joey Bastone – Melrose Park* James Bastone – Melrose Park* Tommy Battaglia – Melrose Park* Chris Battaglia – Melrose Park* Joe Beli – South Side Robert “Bobby the Gabeet” Bellavia – Melrose Park (imprisoned) * Charles “Chuckie B” Bellavia – Melrose Park* Phil Bertucci – South Side Anthony Biancofiore – Elmwood Park Tommy Billante - West Side Mike Blasi – Melrose Park Robert Bonamici – West Side Joe Bonavolante -South Side Mike Botica - West Side Roland “Ricky B” Borelli – Elmwood Park * Louie Borselino – South Side Nick Boscarino – Melrose Park* Joe Bova - Melrose Park Salvatore Brocato – Elmwood Park Joe Broccio - Melrose Paek Albert Bruno – West Side Jimmy Buonomo – Elmwood Park Dominic Buscemi – South Side Frank “Frankie Breeze” Calabrese – South Side (imprisoned) * Anthony “Tough Tony” Calabrese – South Side (imprisoned) * Mike Canazero – Elmwood Park Jimmy Capasso - South Side John “Cappy” Capodice – South Side* Tommy Capione - Wesr Side Michael “Mikey Beef” Caracci – Elmwood Park Richard Carbonaro – Melrose Park Salvatore “Sammy Cards” Cardella – South Side Leonard Cardone – Elmwood Park Mike Carioscia – Melrose Park * Pasquale “Pasty” Carioscia – Melrose Park Peter “Bushy” Caruso – South Side* Morris “Mutt” Caruso – South Side* Frank “Little Frankie” Caruso, Jr – South Side* Anthony Carvotta – South Side Angelo “The Angel” Cassano – Elmwood Park* Dominic “Mennie” Cassano – Elmwood Park* Gino “Mean Gene” Cassano – Elmwood Park* Vito “Pops” Cassano – Elmwood Park* Bobby Cassimiro - South Side Ronnie Castaldo – Elmwood Park Joe Castaldo – Elmwood Park Nicky Castaldo – Elmwood Park Gerry Castino - South Siude Salvatore “Solly C” Cataudella – South Side* Nicholas “Nicky C” Catuadella – South Side* Frank “Frankie the Gunner” Catapano – Elmwood Park* Richard “Richie the Cat” Catazone – South Side* Don “Donnie the Cat” Catazone – South Side* Joe Caulderello – West Side* Robery Cechini – Melrose Park* Salvatore Cecola – West Side/LV* Anthony Cerco – South Side/LV Anthony Cerone – Elmwood Park* James Cerone – Elmwood Park* John “Little Jackie” Cerone, Jr. – Elmwood Park* Charles “Chuckie C” Cesario Frank Ciangi – South Side Angelo Ciaravino – South Side Virgil “The Truck” Cimino – Melrose Park* Joe Ciolino – Melrose Park Anthony “Tony Sip” Cipriani - Elmowood Park Anthony “Tony Sing Sing/Tony Julian” Ciragani – Melrose Park* Rocco “The Biker” Circelli – Melrose Park* Nino Cisternino – Elmwood Park* Joe Cocco – South Side Frank Colanani – Melrose Park John Coli - South Side Mike Coli -South Side Billy Coli - Soyuth Side Jimmy Colucci - South Side Jimmy Coniglio – Melrose Park* Jimmy Contis – Melrose Park* Ralph Contacessi – South Side Pete Costello – South Side Tommy Covello – West Side* Ronnie Covello – West Side* Carl Covelli - Melrose Park Bobby Covone – Melrose Park Phil Cozzo – West Side* Sam Cozzo – West Side* John Credidio – South Side* Ronnie Crevilone* - west Side Albert Cundari – Elmwood Park* Billy Cundari – Elmwood Park* Butch Cundari – Elmwood Park* Joey Cussamano – Las Vegas* Joe Cutrano – South Side Guy D’amico – Elmwood Park* William “Little Willie/Small Fry Willie” Daddano, Jr. – Melrose Park* Louis “Louie Lips” Daddano – Melrose Park* John Dadanno – Melrose Park* Richard Dazzo – Elmwood Park Richard De Angelo - South Side Butch De Angelis – Elmwood Park Salvatore “Sammy Powder” De Cesare – Elmwood Park Anthony De Core – Elmwood Park Anthony De Falco Salvatore “Solly D/Sal the Pizza Man” De Laurentis – Melrose Park * Mario De Marco – Elmwood Park Frank De Rosa – Melrose Park* Ronnie De Rosa – Melrose Park* Richard “Richie the Mouse/Mousie” De Santis – South Side* Ronnie De Santis Salvatore “Little Sam” De Stefano – Elmwood Park Dominic De Silvio Matt De Vito – Elmwood Park Joey De Vita – Arizona* Paul Di Caro – South Side Charles “Charlie Specs” Di Caro – South Side* Joseph “Joe the Spider” Di Caro – South Side* Frank “Frankie 51” Di Constanza – South Side* Dominic “Captain D” Di Fazio – South Side * Joe Di Fronzo – Elmwood Park* James Di Guillo – Melrose Park Dominic Di Maggio – Melrose Park* Nick Di Maggio – Melrose Park* Louie Di Riggi – Elmwood Park* William “Billy D” Dileniemo – Elmwood Park Jimmy D’melio – Elmwood Park (former cop/electronics expert) Renato “Ray Ray” Di Silvestro – Las Vegas* William Di Domenico – South Side* Jimmy Di Domenico – South Side* Vincent Di Varco – Elmwood Park* Robert Dinella – South Side* Ralph Dolendi – Elmwood Park Robert “Bobby D” Dominic – Melrose Park* Joe Donzelli – LV Anthony “Tony Seymour/Tony D” Dote – Elmwood Park* Carl “CD” Dote – Elmwood Park* Vincenzo Ercolino (Italy/Sicily)* Nick Falzone Romeo “Flap Jack” Familynappi – South Side* Frank “Frankie Pasta” Esposito – West Side* Richard Ferraro, Jr. – South Side Gerry Ferraro – South Side Nick Ferriola – South Side* Rocco Fillipino Phil “Philly Boy” Fiore – South Side* Vincent Fiorlano* Tommy Fiorlano* Joseph “Joe Pep” Forienza - Rockford Peter Frigo John “Tiger” Frisella – Rockford Mike Fusco – Elmwood Park (narcotics) Joe Gallo – South Side Natala Galluzzo - Rockford Salvatore Galluzzo – Rockford Anthony Garipo – Melrose Park Jerry Gasparini – Elmwood Park Richard Gelsomino – Elmwood Park (narcotics) FRank "The Fireman" Geraci - Rockford Gary Gilberto – Elmwood Park Michael “Mikey Jaws” Giorgano – Elmwood Park/FLA* Gary “Little Gags” Gagliano – Elmwood Park* William Galioto – Melrose Park* Sam Galioto – Melrose Park* John Galioto – Melrose Park* Robert Garippo Richard “Richie G” Gervasio* Anthony Giannone Nick Gironda – South Side Frank “Frankie Gig” Granata, Jr. – South Side* Joseph “Joe Glasses” Greico – Melrose Park* Mike Greico – Melrose Park* Frank “Frankie Drywall” Guidice – South Side* Tommy Guiliano* Chris Guiliano * Michael “Mickey the Gorilla” Gurgone – South Side* Sammy Gurgone – South Side* Jimmy Gurgone – South Side* Chris Guzaldo Phil Guzzino Nicholas “Jumbo” Guzzino – South Side* Dominic Guzzino - South Side Roland Ignoffo – Elmwood Park* Jimmy Iannantone – South Side Anthony “Tony Peaches” Imperato – South Side* Frank “Frankie Cigars” Imperato – South Side* Ernest “Rocky” Infelice – Former UB (imprisoned)* Sam “Sammy I” Inendino – Melrose Park* Tintner Inserro – Melrose Park Anthony Juliano Pietro “Mustache Pete” La Balestra – Elmwood Park (narcotics)* John Di Giglio* John La Mana Mike La Mantia – Elmwood Park Rocco La Mantina – South Side Richard La Mantina – South Side Richard Lantini – Elmwood Park (narcotics) Joe La Scola John La Placa Nick Lamonica John Lanno Antillio Lavorata Sam Lenocci Geno Levato Anthony Lo Cocco Joseph "Joey the Clown" Lombardo - West Side Rocco Lombardo – West Side/LV* Joseph “Little Joe” Lombardo – West Side* Dominic Longo Ralph Madia – South Side* Bruno Mancari – South Side* Pete Mancari – South Side* Al Mancini – Elmwood Park Robert Mangiamele – South Side* Dominic Mangiamele – South Side* Joe Mangiamele – South Side* Anthony Maggio – Elmwood Park Mike Maglieri – South Side Mike Malmenato – West Side* Frank Marasso – South Side Frank “Frankie Frankenstein” Maranto – Elmwood Park* James “Jimmy the Man/Little Jimmy” Marcello – Melrose Park (imprisoned)* Rocco Marcello – Melrose Park* Michael “Big Mickey/Bozo” Marcello – Melrose Park (imprisoned)* Chris Marcotte Dino Marino – Melrose Park* Louis “Louie Tomatoes” Marino – Melrose Park (imprisoned) Charlie Marzano – Melrose Park* Ralph Mascio Thomas “Skinny Tommy” Matassa – Melrose Park* Francis “Patty May” Mazza – Elmwood Park* Joe “Joey May” Mazza – Elmwood Park* Pete Mazullo Lou Mazzei Anthony Menolocino – Elmwood Park Phil Mesi – Elmwood Park Clement “Big Clem” Messino – Elmwood Park* Christopher “Little Dickie” Messino – Elmwood Park* Danny Milano Carmen Miglori – Elmwood Park* Alphonse Mitria Sam Molosi Bruno Monaco August “Little Augie” Monteleone Lou Morelli Ray Morelli Tommy Moretti – Elmwood Park* Leonard Muscia Saverio Mussilanni Robert “Louie the Lmb” Musserino* Romeo Nappi – SoutJh Side Joe Napoli – Stone Park PD Robert Natale – Melrose Park* Tommy Navigato – Elmwood Park Paul Nicolosi John Nitti – West Side* Nick Nitti, jr.* Orlando Nudo – Elmwood Park Joe Oliveri – South Side Cosmo Orlando Joseph “Joe Popeye” Pacella – South Side Jimmy Pacella – South Side Billy Pacella – South Side Frank Palaggi Mike Palermo – South Side Skippy Palermo – South Side Frank Pannos – West Side* Louie Pannos – West Side* Robert Panozzo Charles “Dapper Charlie/Handsome Charlie” Parilli – West Side* Louie Parilli – West Side* Fred Pascente – West Side* Joseph “Joey Grapes/Joey Pooch” Pasucci – South Side* Michael “Mikey Pooch” Pasucci – South Side* Dane Passo – West Side* Al Pavone – South Side* Frank Peccia – Elmwood Park Rocco Pelletieri – South Side* Tommy Pennavaria – Elmwood Park Sam “Blackie” Pesoli – Elmwood Park* Vito Pesoli – Elmwood Park* Lee Pesoli – Elmwood Park* Mike Petruzzi – Melrose Park (former top Tornabene lieutenant)* Lawrence “Hungry Larry” Petitt – Elmwood Park* Joe Pettit – Elmwood Park* Anthony Petronella Ralph Pezuso – South Side Tommy Piazzo – South Side Aldo “Junior” Piscitteli – South Side* Vic Plescia Phil Ponto – West Side Francesco Portera – Elmwood Park Bernard “Bernie Press” Prestigiacomo – Elmwood Park* Michael “Mikey Press” Prestigiacomo - 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Edited by Dapper_Don (11/25/12 06:33 PM)
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#679015 - 11/25/12 07:18 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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Great post Dapper
I've heard Andriacchi was sick but never knew Culotta was sick.
I can't find links about either of them. Does anyone have one?
As you can see there's way more than 28

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#679017 - 11/25/12 07:22 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Dapper_Don]
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Cool post Dapper!thanx
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#679035 - 11/25/12 08:12 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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Now dap how many of those are "soldiers" per say? Ivy has told me the outfit only has 28 formally made members left aka they had a ceremony and what not
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#679036 - 11/25/12 08:16 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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123, i wasnt the one who made this list just sharing. I am aware the Outfit started using the formal making ceremony much later than most.
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#679037 - 11/25/12 08:25 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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I was only wondering due to the fact that it seemed like a lot of guys for Chicago
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#679038 - 11/25/12 08:32 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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Thanks for the post, dapper.

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#679040 - 11/25/12 08:37 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Now dap how many of those are "soldiers" per say? Ivy has told me the outfit only has 28 formally made members left aka they had a ceremony and what not


Who had the ceremony or not is a very confusing thing with the outfit. IIRC, Carlisi started it when he was boss, then it was kept on and who knows if it even still happens. So lots of old guys never got it, so who knows all had "the ceremony".

IMO, if i were boss, haha, I would have stopped it. There is no other competition in Chicago. Only one family, so no need for lots of official soldiers. Those in the know, know whose who. So having a ceremony only adds to "made" guys and people talking about it. And targets from the FBI.

Better to be thought to have 10 made guys than 100. Now, i have no idea if this is true, just my two cents.

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#679045 - 11/25/12 09:30 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
I was only wondering due to the fact that it seemed like a lot of guys for Chicago


yeah, i suspect most of the vast majority of those guys listed arent made with the formal ceremony but might be influential, the guys who are made have the * next to their name.
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#679047 - 11/25/12 09:44 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Dapper_Don]
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interesting. i literally know next to nothing about chicago. i always thought they did the ceremony different over there.

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#679067 - 11/25/12 11:49 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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Nice post, Dapper. Most of it is fairly accurate. I will say that Elmwood & Cicero can basically considered separate families altogether though at this point, with Grand & Chinatown being considered their own families as well, albeit on a much smaller scale. that's the way Aiuppa set it up.

I'd also personally place Inendino higher up than Solly D down there.

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#679068 - 11/25/12 11:51 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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Elmwood park is the only crew/family that doesn't make members anymore.

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#679072 - 11/26/12 12:22 AM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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And Christy fuckin spina is not even a top three in his own crew, let alone a top guy in the entire fuckin outfit lol. anyone going by what the feds say is a goof, they literally have no clue as to what they're talking about.


Edited by ricobenes (11/26/12 12:23 AM)

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#679073 - 11/26/12 12:36 AM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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So Rico what guy in Chicago do you think has the most power?

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#679079 - 11/26/12 01:26 AM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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That's so difficult to say. Naturally you would say Johnny Bananas or his brother, or Inendino or solly d, but there are bookies like Marco Damico who have far larger net worths than both those guys. Grand avenue is by far the weakest crew at this point, so it wouldn't be anyone from there.

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#679080 - 11/26/12 01:34 AM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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Who's strongest? Southside? Elmwood? Cicero?.

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#679081 - 11/26/12 01:34 AM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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And what crew would say is scariest or most violent today

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#679083 - 11/26/12 01:52 AM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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Elmwood is primarily white collar, so if you're talking legitimate business, yes they are the most powerful. Cicero is by far the largest and most feared, and they handle the majority of street level stuff. Chinatown & grand are incomparable to both Cicero and Elmwood, but Chinatown is by far larger and more powerful than grand.

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#679087 - 11/26/12 02:39 AM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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What ever happened to the chicago heights and rush street crews?

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#679093 - 11/26/12 03:10 AM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: ricobenes]
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Originally Posted By: ricobenes
Elmwood park is the only crew/family that doesn't make members anymore.
So who would make a guy Into let's say the Cicero faction Marcello? and is thier any member who has been rumored to be inducted under Marcello or even DiFronzo previously ?

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#679109 - 11/26/12 04:34 AM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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Marcello, Inendino, and the rest of the Cicero upper echelon made over twenty members during the early 2000s. Their names are not known, but there have been rumoured to have been some very young men that were in that group.

@eyes, Chicago heights is most certainly still active. Very little is known about that crew. Rush street was sanctioned into Elmwood, as was Melrose park.

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#679182 - 11/26/12 03:51 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
Jimmy_Two_Times Offline

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Dapper, awesome post. The most comprehensive view of the Outfit I've seen.

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#679195 - 11/26/12 04:52 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Jimmy_Two_Times]
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Impressive chart. Kudos to the one who made it. However, only a small fraction of the guys listed are formally inducted made members, the rest are associates. Also, I´m not sure everybody on the list is still alive today.
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#679208 - 11/26/12 06:14 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
TommyGambino Offline

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No way that chart is even remotely accurate, people love to live in a dream world and make out the Outfit still are a big family.

If the feds say 28, I'd believe that over the chart.

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#679276 - 11/26/12 10:44 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TommyGambino]
FriedRavioliFarts Offline

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The Feds have always been a couple years behind. 28 is way low. There are more than 28 guys on the deck at The Grotto some nights. Ricobenes do you know anything about a crew operating in Valpo? Is that part of Chicago Heights? Thanks.

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#679278 - 11/26/12 10:50 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117]
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the chart is accurate tommy, look at the paragraph of members dapper posted

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#679286 - 11/26/12 11:22 PM Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: NickyEyes1]
TommyGambino Offline

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I'd like to believe you but I can't, so why is it accurate? Just because it was made by a guy on the internet?

All we can do to speculate how many members a family has is google searching articles and looking for indictments I'm afraid and trying to get any info we can.

The feds know at least 90% of made members in every crime family, I believe that 28-40 is accurate.

Why should I believe there are 70+ made guys?

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