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#664434 - 09/04/12 06:36 PM black vs mexican gangs in LA
Scorsese Offline

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Just wondering if anyone knows what the current situation is. there been alot of documentaries and news stories about their being a race war and that the mexicans were killing black civilians in their hoods.

Have the mexicans taken over any black gangs and neighbourhoods?

How strong is the alliance between la eme and the aryan brotherhood?

Is the same situation playing out in other states like texas or arizona?

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#664452 - 09/04/12 07:17 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Scorsese]
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Dont know about the current situation but the mexicans are in war with the black population since the 70's and it never stopped....


Edited by Toodoped (09/04/12 07:18 PM)
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#664453 - 09/04/12 07:19 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Scorsese]
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I don't think the Mexican gangs 'took over' the black neighborhoods. In a neighborhood where the vast majority is African-American, a Mexican minority won't have a chance.
The Aryan Brotherhood and La Eme have an alliance because they have mutual enemies. They also do some business together like working in the drug trade, etc...
Black gang aren't really big in the Texan criminal world. It's mostly Chicanos and Mexican immigrants and a lot of whites doing the dirty stuff over there. Arizona is also mostly controlled by outlaw motorcycle gangs and Hispanic gangs.

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#664471 - 09/04/12 08:10 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: TheKillingJoke]
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Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
I don't think the Mexican gangs 'took over' the black neighborhoods. In a neighborhood where the vast majority is African-American, a Mexican minority won't have a chance.
The Aryan Brotherhood and La Eme have an alliance because they have mutual enemies. They also do some business together like working in the drug trade, etc...
Black gang aren't really big in the Texan criminal world. It's mostly Chicanos and Mexican immigrants and a lot of whites doing the dirty stuff over there. Arizona is also mostly controlled by outlaw motorcycle gangs and Hispanic gangs.



Most of the southwest is controlled by hispanic gangs but whites are also there with the Hispanics. Mexicans criminals in general don't trust blacks.

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#664484 - 09/04/12 09:20 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: BordertownResident]
TheKillingJoke Offline

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Originally Posted By: BordertownResident
Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
I don't think the Mexican gangs 'took over' the black neighborhoods. In a neighborhood where the vast majority is African-American, a Mexican minority won't have a chance.
The Aryan Brotherhood and La Eme have an alliance because they have mutual enemies. They also do some business together like working in the drug trade, etc...
Black gang aren't really big in the Texan criminal world. It's mostly Chicanos and Mexican immigrants and a lot of whites doing the dirty stuff over there. Arizona is also mostly controlled by outlaw motorcycle gangs and Hispanic gangs.



Most of the southwest is controlled by hispanic gangs but whites are also there with the Hispanics. Mexicans criminals in general don't trust blacks.


Yeah Mexicans and Chicanos ( in my opinion there is a difference between the two) are probably the most in control. But don't underestimate 'dem Rednecks' , they also have their fingers in about every pie in those areas grin

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#664489 - 09/04/12 10:35 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: BordertownResident]
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Originally Posted By: BordertownResident
Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
I don't think the Mexican gangs 'took over' the black neighborhoods. In a neighborhood where the vast majority is African-American, a Mexican minority won't have a chance.
The Aryan Brotherhood and La Eme have an alliance because they have mutual enemies. They also do some business together like working in the drug trade, etc...
Black gang aren't really big in the Texan criminal world. It's mostly Chicanos and Mexican immigrants and a lot of whites doing the dirty stuff over there. Arizona is also mostly controlled by outlaw motorcycle gangs and Hispanic gangs.



Most of the southwest is controlled by hispanic gangs but whites are also there with the Hispanics. Mexicans criminals in general don't trust blacks.


Actually , mexicans (or chicanos) in northern cali are allied with black gangs and do business with each other. Its the southern cali mexicans (who are largely in control by the mexican mafia) who have the gripe with blacks and ally with white supremacist (which is bizarre in itself).

The most bizarre thing is , if you go on youtube and type in "lowrider oldies" or what have you , you will find videos made by these southern cali chicano gang members. They attach their gang pictures to old soul/r&b songs from blacks , and yet , they hate blacks lol








The above video is from a Doo Wop group called the Paragons from back in the day. Florencia 13 ( a sureno gang notoriously known for their violence towards blacks in general) have actually adopted it as their theme song rofl

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#664490 - 09/04/12 10:40 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Scorsese]
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mexican gangs are without a doubt the most influential in southern california. they have even moved in to more traditionally black dominated areas such as south central as well as compton.
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#664526 - 09/05/12 10:15 AM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Scorsese]
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Currently California is about 38% Hispanic and about 6% Black. So over the past few decades some areas that were traditionally black have changed. There's been some friction as there would be in any changeover.

What's more ominous than the friction or even minor bigotry is the hateful actions by some Hispanics (and to a lesser extent by some blacks) that may have grown out of gang activities but has morphed into generic attacks on people who are the "wrong" color or in the "wrong" neighborhood.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/06/08/latino-gang-targeted-blacks-in-california-city/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/05/AR2008010502838.html

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2012/05/jamiel_shaw_murder_pedro_espin.php

These are of course quite small activities in the larger scheme of things but it is interesting to me that these areas/incidents have not become symbolic rallying names the way that "Howard Beach" or "Bensonhurst" did in an earlier generation. Bottom line though however many of these incidents occur, most murders are intra, not inter-racial.

Yup it always was funny to me that people can enjoy the culture, music or women lol of groups that they otherwise despise but that's human nature. No doubt some of the hoodlums that ran downtown to beat up civil rights demonstrators in the fifties were also Chuck Berry or Bo Diddley fans. So it goes...
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#664528 - 09/05/12 10:18 AM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Lilo]
TheKillingJoke Offline

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Originally Posted By: Lilo

Yup it always was funny to me that people can enjoy the culture, music or women lol of groups that they otherwise despise but that's human nature.


Some dipshit who used to live in my neighborhood always claimed he hated Arabs and that he loved beating up Arab people. Yet when I saw him at a bar he was flirting with a Moroccan girl. Go figure lol

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#664589 - 09/05/12 08:25 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: TheKillingJoke]
BordertownResident Offline

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Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
Originally Posted By: BordertownResident
Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
I don't think the Mexican gangs 'took over' the black neighborhoods. In a neighborhood where the vast majority is African-American, a Mexican minority won't have a chance.
The Aryan Brotherhood and La Eme have an alliance because they have mutual enemies. They also do some business together like working in the drug trade, etc...
Black gang aren't really big in the Texan criminal world. It's mostly Chicanos and Mexican immigrants and a lot of whites doing the dirty stuff over there. Arizona is also mostly controlled by outlaw motorcycle gangs and Hispanic gangs.



Most of the southwest is controlled by hispanic gangs but whites are also there with the Hispanics. Mexicans criminals in general don't trust blacks.


Yeah Mexicans and Chicanos ( in my opinion there is a difference between the two) are probably the most in control. But don't underestimate 'dem Rednecks' , they also have their fingers in about every pie in those areas grin

Yep there is a big difference between a Mexican and a Chicano or Mexican-American. Chicano criminals are a lot meaner than the Paisas or Mexicans in my opinion. Throught the years Chicano Gangs or Mexican American gangs have influenced Mexican cities (and Mexican street gangs) like Monterrey, Nuevo Laredo, Ciudad Juarez etc. making those areas deadlier now. Before the cartel war in Mexico, the Mexican Cartels used to hire Chicano gangs as foot soldiers because they had the "school" and the impulsive mentality of American street gangs. The cartel bosses have even made corridos or songs glamorizing the braveness of American criminals. One of them is called Pistoleros de Fama or Famous Gunmen and if you are from south Texas or the southwest in general. You know what a "fama" is.

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#664591 - 09/05/12 08:36 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: BordertownResident]
TheKillingJoke Offline

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Registered: 07/15/12
Posts: 470
Originally Posted By: BordertownResident
Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
Originally Posted By: BordertownResident
Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
I don't think the Mexican gangs 'took over' the black neighborhoods. In a neighborhood where the vast majority is African-American, a Mexican minority won't have a chance.
The Aryan Brotherhood and La Eme have an alliance because they have mutual enemies. They also do some business together like working in the drug trade, etc...
Black gang aren't really big in the Texan criminal world. It's mostly Chicanos and Mexican immigrants and a lot of whites doing the dirty stuff over there. Arizona is also mostly controlled by outlaw motorcycle gangs and Hispanic gangs.



Most of the southwest is controlled by hispanic gangs but whites are also there with the Hispanics. Mexicans criminals in general don't trust blacks.


Yeah Mexicans and Chicanos ( in my opinion there is a difference between the two) are probably the most in control. But don't underestimate 'dem Rednecks' , they also have their fingers in about every pie in those areas grin

Yep there is a big difference between a Mexican and a Chicano or Mexican-American. Chicano criminals are a lot meaner than the Paisas or Mexicans in my opinion. Throught the years Chicano Gangs or Mexican American gangs have influenced Mexican cities (and Mexican street gangs) like Monterrey, Nuevo Laredo, Ciudad Juarez etc. making those areas deadlier now. Before the cartel war in Mexico, the Mexican Cartels used to hire Chicano gangs as foot soldiers because they had the "school" and the impulsive mentality of American street gangs. The cartel bosses have even made corridos or songs glamorizing the braveness of American criminals. One of them is called Pistoleros de Fama or Famous Gunmen and if you are from south Texas or the southwest in general. You know what a "fama" is.


A lot of Chicanos ( especially those in California and Texas) can trace their ancestry back to people who already lived in the USA a hundred years ago. A lot of Chicanos even have a degree of English, African or Native American ( like Apache or Navajo ) ancestry.
In my opinion, they really are a different group than Mexicans.

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#664666 - 09/05/12 11:45 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Scorsese]
South_Made Offline

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Registered: 11/12/11
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Loc: Georgia, USA
See here's the thing I've came across people that have done time in California, and all that I won't get into that. As far this whole race war thing goes it's not a race war in the sense the media make it out to be majority of it is over control of dope sales in particular areas and it's usually nothing against the black community it's usually just rivals who happen to be black now don't get me wrong some of them are on some other shit. Believe it or not there are blacks in certain Mexican American street gangs in LA, one that comes off the top is Florence and for those that have seen that gangland episode I would hope they would be able to take that episode with a grain of salt. As far as the mexican mafia having an alliance with the aryan brotherhood, I'll say it like how it was said to me that's not a accurate statement, sure on some yards they may have some type of understanding but on other yards it could be the complete opposite and is that way on many yards.

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#664943 - 09/07/12 12:30 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Scorsese]
tiger84 Offline

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LOL florencia 13 would NEVER have a black in their gang NEVER

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#664978 - 09/07/12 05:54 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Scorsese]
South_Made Offline

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Registered: 11/12/11
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Loc: Georgia, USA
We could put money on that if you'd like i forgot which clique but yeah theres A couple black dudes theres pictures im sure if you look hard enough would kinda kill your belief and even show that certain cliques within Florence had black members why would i lie?


Edited by South_Made (09/07/12 05:57 PM)

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#664982 - 09/07/12 05:59 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: South_Made]
Scorsese Offline

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I think that those pictures are probably old because i think the mexican mafia ordered all of their affiliated gangs to kick out any black or afro hispanic members.

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#665158 - 09/08/12 08:52 AM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Scorsese]
South_Made Offline

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Registered: 11/12/11
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Loc: Georgia, USA
Some did some didn't I'm not saying there's alot of blacks in Florence but in certain sets there are blacks in them Florence is just one example you gotta keep in mind it's all where you grow up I'm not sayin' it's a giant trend but if your black growing up in a majority Mexican neighborhood you usually gonna join up with whatever sets there in the neighborhood, same goes for Mexicans, whites whatever believe it or not there's exceptions I'm just sayin' exactly how It was said to me can't always rely on gangland to be accurate.

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#665504 - 09/09/12 11:51 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: South_Made]
tiger84 Offline

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Registered: 12/16/10
Posts: 298
Originally Posted By: South_Made
Some did some didn't I'm not saying there's alot of blacks in Florence but in certain sets there are blacks in them Florence is just one example you gotta keep in mind it's all where you grow up I'm not sayin' it's a giant trend but if your black growing up in a majority Mexican neighborhood you usually gonna join up with whatever sets there in the neighborhood, same goes for Mexicans, whites whatever believe it or not there's exceptions I'm just sayin' exactly how It was said to me can't always rely on gangland to be accurate.


Please im very well educated in LA chicano gangs.Florencia 13 and the Avenues are the 2 most fused gang with The mexican mafia moreso than biger gangs like 18th.These guys would never have a black member la eme is more racist than the aryan brotherhood FACT.So what do these black members who are in mexican gangs do when they go to prison??Prison time in california is differant than other states its all about race where as in new york its more gang affiliation

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#665551 - 09/10/12 10:37 AM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: tiger84]
South_Made Offline

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Registered: 11/12/11
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Loc: Georgia, USA
Some pc up some hold their ground if your the one that's educated in this how could you not know this? I'm not tryin' to make it seem like there's a whole army of black dudes in florence or in any eme affiliated group that would be completely false to say that, I am saying certain sets have had blacks it's no different than when mexicans join majority black gangs once they hit the pen some pc up to avoid conflict some stand tall not that common but it's there don't take my word for it though your the educated one.


Edited by South_Made (09/10/12 10:40 AM)

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#665554 - 09/10/12 10:56 AM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Scorsese]
South_Made Offline

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Registered: 11/12/11
Posts: 17

Loc: Georgia, USA

^ Semi new picture.


Older one the dude in the middle doing life he's respected even now from how it was explained to me, it's rare but it's there man plain and simple.

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#665563 - 09/10/12 12:07 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: South_Made]
tiger84 Offline

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Registered: 12/16/10
Posts: 298
Originally Posted By: South_Made
Some pc up some hold their ground if your the one that's educated in this how could you not know this? I'm not tryin' to make it seem like there's a whole army of black dudes in florence or in any eme affiliated group that would be completely false to say that, I am saying certain sets have had blacks it's no different than when mexicans join majority black gangs once they hit the pen some pc up to avoid conflict some stand tall not that common but it's there don't take my word for it though your the educated one.


I was being sarcastic what happens is either they pc or go at it alone becuse the blacks in the joint wont except them because they were with mexis on the outside.And thos picks are not of florencia 13 which is who we are talking about


Edited by tiger84 (09/10/12 12:10 PM)

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#665571 - 09/10/12 12:51 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: tiger84]
JohnSacrimoni Offline

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Registered: 09/25/11
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Loc: Otisville FCI, New York
I have read that there is an "alliance" of some degree between the Gambinos and the Emes. Anyone know if there is any truth to that?
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#665572 - 09/10/12 12:54 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: tiger84]
South_Made Offline

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Registered: 11/12/11
Posts: 17

Loc: Georgia, USA
Have I been sarcastic to you? Na' so Id appreciate the same in return, 55th was a mere example corresponding with the thread in general, if I could find what I was looking for I woulda' gladly shared that them two the only ones I could post off the top. Forgot which clique it was but they do have black members you should know not to believe most of what the media puts out there though. Not all pc up in prison though the reason I even posted the second one was to prove that some of them actually stand tall even in prison dude was one of them that's doing a l and isn't in pc for his own safety. It's not that common but it's there, if I could remember which clique of them Florence cats it was that has a few black dudes that might change in prison but on a street level it's there you don't have to take my word for it I know Southerners merely said it how it was told to me I'll just leave it at that.

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#665596 - 09/10/12 03:41 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: South_Made]
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I think that the whole declaring war on black people plan has sort of backfired on the mexican mafia. I dont think they gained that much out of it and also it seems to have led to alot of arrests and heat from the feds.

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#665636 - 09/10/12 05:57 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Scorsese]
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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
I think that the whole declaring war on black people plan has sort of backfired on the mexican mafia. I dont think they gained that much out of it and also it seems to have led to alot of arrests and heat from the feds.


Also , they have inadvertently caused more unity among black gangs in L.A. You dont really see beefing between different clicks of bloods and crips anymore. You even have some crip and blood sets bridging the divide in order to unite against the mexicans.

I also heard about the DAMU's and other blood sets learning Swahili , to mask their conversations from mexican and white inmates when they get inside prison

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#665638 - 09/10/12 06:00 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: ManGauge]
TheKillingJoke Offline

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Originally Posted By: ManGauge

I also heard about the DAMU's and other blood sets learning Swahili , to mask their conversations from mexican and white inmates when they get inside prison


This sounds a bit wild lol. Since African-Americans are really an American bred group of people who don't have any cultural and linguistic ties to Africa at all

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#665661 - 09/10/12 07:24 PM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: ManGauge]
Scorsese Offline

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Originally Posted By: ManGauge

Also , they have inadvertently caused more unity among black gangs in L.A. You dont really see beefing between different clicks of bloods and crips anymore. You even have some crip and blood sets bridging the divide in order to unite against the mexicans.

I also heard about the DAMU's and other blood sets learning Swahili , to mask their conversations from mexican and white inmates when they get inside prison


I think damu is the swahili word for blood. Aint they been using that language for a long time anyway.

Theres are lots of alliances in the black gangs, Hoovers, pirus, rolling 30s and 60s, neighbourhood bloods, inglewood family, shot gun crips.

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#665748 - 09/11/12 01:30 AM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: TheKillingJoke]
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Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
Originally Posted By: ManGauge

I also heard about the DAMU's and other blood sets learning Swahili , to mask their conversations from mexican and white inmates when they get inside prison


This sounds a bit wild lol. Since African-Americans are really an American bred group of people who don't have any cultural and linguistic ties to Africa at all


Cultural ties , yes. Linguistic ties , no.

And who cares? DAMU is in itself , a Swahili African word. I guess they look at it as getting back in touch with their roots.

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#665749 - 09/11/12 01:31 AM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Scorsese]
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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
Originally Posted By: ManGauge

Also , they have inadvertently caused more unity among black gangs in L.A. You dont really see beefing between different clicks of bloods and crips anymore. You even have some crip and blood sets bridging the divide in order to unite against the mexicans.

I also heard about the DAMU's and other blood sets learning Swahili , to mask their conversations from mexican and white inmates when they get inside prison


I think damu is the swahili word for blood. Aint they been using that language for a long time anyway.

Theres are lots of alliances in the black gangs, Hoovers, pirus, rolling 30s and 60s, neighbourhood bloods, inglewood family, shot gun crips.


Yup DAMU is Blood in Swahili

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#665764 - 09/11/12 05:23 AM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: TheKillingJoke]
Nicholas Offline

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Loc: Orange County, CA
Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
I don't think the Mexican gangs 'took over' the black neighborhoods. In a neighborhood where the vast majority is African-American, a Mexican minority won't have a chance.
The Aryan Brotherhood and La Eme have an alliance because they have mutual enemies. They also do some business together like working in the drug trade, etc...
Black gang aren't really big in the Texan criminal world. It's mostly Chicanos and Mexican immigrants and a lot of whites doing the dirty stuff over there. Arizona is also mostly controlled by outlaw motorcycle gangs and Hispanic gangs.


And New Mexico?
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#665765 - 09/11/12 05:24 AM Re: black vs mexican gangs in LA [Re: Nicholas]
Ted Offline

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Originally Posted By: Nicholas
Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
I don't think the Mexican gangs 'took over' the black neighborhoods. In a neighborhood where the vast majority is African-American, a Mexican minority won't have a chance.
The Aryan Brotherhood and La Eme have an alliance because they have mutual enemies. They also do some business together like working in the drug trade, etc...
Black gang aren't really big in the Texan criminal world. It's mostly Chicanos and Mexican immigrants and a lot of whites doing the dirty stuff over there. Arizona is also mostly controlled by outlaw motorcycle gangs and Hispanic gangs.


And New Mexico?

Walter White's territory.

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