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Tony's Son. Why no interest in the mob ? #662917
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Your thoughts on this?

Too much of a dumb fuck or what?

P.S. I can't stand the fucking kid. He reminds me of a pussy.

Re: Tony's Son. Why no interest in the mob ? [Re: Wilson] #662918
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Originally Posted By: Wilson
Your thoughts on this?

Too much of a dumb fuck or what?

P.S. I can't stand the fucking kid. He reminds me of a pussy.



Me too he's definitely my worst character i hate the actor too . He's just too whiny i wouldn't like the show any less if Tony only had 1 child.

Re: Tony's Son. Why no interest in the mob ? [Re: Wilson] #663023
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He's just not cut out for it. He's a spoiled rich kid suburbanite.
If he had been raised in Elizabeth or Newark proper it might be different.

Tony was likely too affluent and he is a part of the self-involved generation. Also he's not that bright and overly emotional, which likely adds to the problem.

Sons are spoiled, daughters gotta earn it haha

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I'd imagine that a mobster does not need to be highly intelligent, but clever in order to survive. Also, he has to have some kind of strategic thinking, I guess.

AJ is just outright stupid and weak, he would have been killed quite fast. Weird as it may sound, Meadow would be a good choice.


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Re: Tony's Son. Why no interest in the mob ? [Re: Wilson] #663062
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I kinda wish they would have kept Jackie Jr. alive for a while longer and in the picture just to provide a stark contrast to AJ: AJ is a spoiled rich kid, Jackie Jr is a gangster wannabe. AJ doesn't have a clue what his dad does (at least for a while), Jackie Jr. tells anyone within earshot that his dad used to run the Jersey mafia and uses it to make himself look badass. AJ is lazy and doesn't want to work for most of the series, Jackie Jr. has a crew of hoodlums and peddles drugs to college kids. AJ doesn't have much of a love life for most of the series, and until much later on is barely shown talking to any girls, Jackie Jr. hooks up with Meadow (and pretty much tries to date rape her in one scene) and has whores on the side.

It was a nice contrast between the Apriles and Sopranos.


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Re: Tony's Son. Why no interest in the mob ? [Re: black_velvet] #663076
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Originally Posted By: black_velvet
Weird as it may sound, Meadow would be a good choice.


Yeah, Meadow was sharp as a tack and had she been born male she might of been the "heir apparent" Soprano.

As for Jackie Jr, he was another kid who was spoiled by a wealthy dad. He wanted to be a mobster not for the money but for the status, and some half-assed notion about continuing his father's legacy. Hence he was sloppy. These kids weren't raised int he atmosphere of their parents and their forefathers.

Now take for example a son of a soldier or a capo, and they usually got the grit to ascend in the "life". Then again it's all about if they are born with a "silver spoon" imo.

Re: Tony's Son. Why no interest in the mob ? [Re: waynethegame] #663223
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Originally Posted By: waynethegame
I kinda wish they would have kept Jackie Jr. alive for a while longer and in the picture just to provide a stark contrast to AJ: AJ is a spoiled rich kid, Jackie Jr is a gangster wannabe. AJ doesn't have a clue what his dad does (at least for a while), Jackie Jr. tells anyone within earshot that his dad used to run the Jersey mafia and uses it to make himself look badass. AJ is lazy and doesn't want to work for most of the series, Jackie Jr. has a crew of hoodlums and peddles drugs to college kids. AJ doesn't have much of a love life for most of the series, and until much later on is barely shown talking to any girls, Jackie Jr. hooks up with Meadow (and pretty much tries to date rape her in one scene) and has whores on the side.

It was a nice contrast between the Apriles and Sopranos.


Yeah but deep down, Tony doesn't want his daughter go out with Jackie Jr and he knows that his wife Carmela was right. It likes like Tony Montana doesn't want his bestfriend Manolo go out date with his sister because he doesn't want the lifestyle bring into his sister's life where she can get killed or get kidnapped, etc. Both of them want daughter/sister to have better life and better education.

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AJ Jr is not street smart like his father. Look what AJ Jr did some stupid shit like when he tried to kill Uncle Jun...that was a dumb move and yet he talked about Godfather scene to his father about his favorite scene.....AJ Jr is not about that life.

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Re: Tony's Son. Why no interest in the mob ? [Re: Wudstock] #663229
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Originally Posted By: Wudstock
Originally Posted By: waynethegame
I kinda wish they would have kept Jackie Jr. alive for a while longer and in the picture just to provide a stark contrast to AJ: AJ is a spoiled rich kid, Jackie Jr is a gangster wannabe. AJ doesn't have a clue what his dad does (at least for a while), Jackie Jr. tells anyone within earshot that his dad used to run the Jersey mafia and uses it to make himself look badass. AJ is lazy and doesn't want to work for most of the series, Jackie Jr. has a crew of hoodlums and peddles drugs to college kids. AJ doesn't have much of a love life for most of the series, and until much later on is barely shown talking to any girls, Jackie Jr. hooks up with Meadow (and pretty much tries to date rape her in one scene) and has whores on the side.

It was a nice contrast between the Apriles and Sopranos.


Yeah but deep down, Tony doesn't want his daughter go out with Jackie Jr and he knows that his wife Carmela was right. It likes like Tony Montana doesn't want his bestfriend Manolo go out date with his sister because he doesn't want the lifestyle bring into his sister's life where she can get killed or get kidnapped, etc. Both of them want daughter/sister to have better life and better education.


Imo Montana didn't want his sister going out with anyone.

Re: Tony's Son. Why no interest in the mob ? [Re: Wilson] #663343
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Yeah that shit was kinda creepy haha

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He was a whiny little Bitch, who wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes on the street.


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Re: Tony's Son. Why no interest in the mob ? [Re: Wilson] #663362
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Why would anyone be "interested" in the mob ? especially someone who has a shot at education, has rich parents and can make it legit ? Its a life of constant paranoia, backstabbings and two faced people why would you want to be used by some f**k for his well-being? its not a life anyone (or at least many people) has "chosen", forget this hollywood BS. + he saw what happen to jackie jr. Aj is quite a realistic character, lol at everyone gunning him down.

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Originally Posted By: pure
Why would anyone be "interested" in the mob ? especially someone who has a shot at education, has rich parents and can make it legit ? Its a life of constant paranoia, backstabbings and two faced people why would you want to be used by some f**k for his well-being? its not a life anyone (or at least many people) has "chosen", forget this hollywood BS. + he saw what happen to jackie jr. Aj is quite a realistic character, lol at everyone gunning him down.


Good points but some people need something to fuel their adrenaline. They get a thrill out of being bad. Know what I am saying?

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Tony Soprano's son weak, Junior Gotti was similar. Instead of being like his father and acting like a real mobster, he continues shaking people down, dressing like a punk and became a laughing stock to the other four families. Without uncle Pete, Jackie D'Amico and Nicholas Corozzo to back him up, he'd be nothing.

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Because he's just a typical middle-class spoilt child, he's had a easy childhood, not been brought up tough and taught to be in the mob. Assimilation, why would any young Italian-American want to be in the mob today? Its just stupid, this is why they have a hard time recruiting smart young guys because they know better.

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AJ made Fredo in GF look brilliant and tough.

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Originally Posted By: DeMeo
Tony Soprano's son weak, Junior Gotti was similar. Instead of being like his father and acting like a real mobster, he continues shaking people down, dressing like a punk and became a laughing stock to the other four families. Without uncle Pete, Jackie D'Amico and Nicholas Corozzo to back him up, he'd be nothing.

Jr Gotti wasn't smart, but he was tough.


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Re: Tony's Son. Why no interest in the mob ? [Re: Camarel] #665044
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I kinda wish they would have kept Jackie Jr. alive for a while longer and in the picture just to provide a stark contrast to AJ: AJ is a spoiled rich kid, Jackie Jr is a gangster wannabe. AJ doesn't have a clue what his dad does (at least for a while), Jackie Jr. tells anyone within earshot that his dad used to run the Jersey mafia and uses it to make himself look badass. AJ is lazy and doesn't want to work for most of the series, Jackie Jr. has a crew of hoodlums and peddles drugs to college kids. AJ doesn't have much of a love life for most of the series, and until much later on is barely shown talking to any girls, Jackie Jr. hooks up with Meadow (and pretty much tries to date rape her in one scene) and has whores on the side.

It was a nice contrast between the Apriles and Sopranos.


Yeah but deep down, Tony doesn't want his daughter go out with Jackie Jr and he knows that his wife Carmela was right. It likes like Tony Montana doesn't want his bestfriend Manolo go out date with his sister because he doesn't want the lifestyle bring into his sister's life where she can get killed or get kidnapped, etc. Both of them want daughter/sister to have better life and better education.


Imo Montana didn't want his sister going out with anyone.


I can understand that but I think he would rather his sister to married an education guy that who go to college, have decent life. That's why he kept telling his sister that he has money for her school, etc. so she can get a better education.

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He was too whiny, I guess the creators of this TV show made the resemblance that daughters get mostly their father genes and son's get their mother genes.

A.J. is a reallistic character, he's whining just like his mother. And I doubt the show would be as much interesting as it is if A.J. would be shown following Tony's steps. You can't compare Tony with A.J., because Tony is a grown man who's been all his life in the mob and he has gained a lot of experience, while A.J. is a kid who has no sense of what's crime or street smarts.

But somewhat it seemed due to his status in life, like no education or proper work he could end up in the crime life if he matured up. Don't know what result would that make, but maybe it's just me who thinks like that.


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Meadow being a future half-legitimate female mobster would have been a great back reference to Annalisa Zucca who much earlier in the show controlled her family in old Naples.

AJ could have entered the world of the mafia quite easily thanks to his father, but he would be nothin' but cannon fodder.

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AJ would only survive in the mob as long as is father was alive. Tony I dont think would kill his son.


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AJ would only survive in the mob as long as is father was alive. Tony I dont think would kill his son.


Yeah butI believe Carmela wouldn't let his son to join Mafia.

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Originally Posted By: Wudstock
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AJ would only survive in the mob as long as is father was alive. Tony I dont think would kill his son.


Yeah butI believe Carmela wouldn't let his son to join Mafia.


Of course not


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Like who does allow their child to join the Mafia? grin


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Watching season 3 last night and Tony was talking to Jackie Aprile Jr. about how he was upset with him cause he was involving himself in the mob and not pursuing to be a doctor at Rutgers University , since that was his fathers wish. He even admitted to Jackie Jr. that he never wants his own son to be in the mob.

That answers my question.

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One of the worst characters on the show. He added NOTHING. One dimensional. Lame. That actor should thank his stars that he got a role that will forever pay him money for not having a lick of talent.

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AJ at one point was in jason gervasi's mini crew but couldn't stomach the violence he was a complete moron like carmine lupertazzi jr and john a gotti jr

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Definitely didn’t fit the role of a son of the mob boss

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I can still see him running in football practice - he runs like a mezza funyk, all limp wristed and shit, God I hated him and cheered when tried offing himself in the pool


Yeah, Little Pussy. You think he's going to fuck with Big Pussy? My Pussy? Tony Soprano, 1999
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I.think.AJ's character made Tony Sopranos character that much more believable.
In.his mafia family hes trying his best to groom Christopher
Into being a proper mafia solider. But he has drug issues and
Has trouble keeping his temper in.check

Then.you have .his family at home and he struggling to keep AJ focused
On the big picture. Be better than your own.father.

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