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I know there is a few people on here interested in this particular subject so I've done a rundown of some of the major rap labels that have been caught up in some trouble over the years.

The Inc (Formerly Murder Inc)
new york
Mid 90s- present
Founders- Irv Gotti, Chris Gotti, Ja Rule
Notable Artists-Ja Rule,Ashanti,Rah Digga, Lloyd

Criminal associations- Kenneth "Supreme"Mcgriff. A convicted drug lord and leader of the supreme team drug gang that operated a $200,000 dollar a day crack cocaine operation in queens and harlem during the 1980s. After serving 10 years was released in 97 and became very close with irv gotti.Investigators have alleged that McGriff, 43, bankrolled Gotti and has "provided Murder, Inc. with 'muscle'--threats, violence, and intimidation."

Activity-Drug trafficking in NY and Baltimore, money laundering, attempted murder, murder.

Connected violence- murders of Eric Smith,Troy Singleton,Karon Clarret and one of his friends, Jam Master Jay. Attempted murder of 50 Cent.

Thizz Entertainment(formerly Romp Records)
Bay Area
Founders-Mac Dre, Jamal Diggs, Simon'kilo curt' Curtis
Notable artists-E40, Mac Mall, Yukmouth, Keak da Sneak

Criminal Associations- 1980s- 1990s: Romper Room gang. To finance there music ventures Dre, Diggs and curtis trafficked drugs and robbed banks and businesses until their arrests 1992. Dre was released and continued to perform until his shooting and murder in kansas city in 2004.
2012:CUrrent head of Thizz Ent Michael Lott and numerous rappers and associates were recently indicted for running a large scale ecstasy trafficking that distributed in vallejo, bay area,oklahoma, New york, atlanta and milwaukee.

Connected violence-Anthony 'Fat Tone' Watkins and Jermaine 'Cowboy' Aikens were killed in retaliation for Mac Dres murder.

BMF Entertainment (or the Black Mafia Family)
Detroit, Atlanta, Los Angeles
1980s- 2005
Founders and associates-Demetrius 'Big Meech' Flennory, Terry'southwest t' flennory,Chad'J-Bo' Brown, Eric 'Slim' Bivens, Fleming Daniels
Notable Artists-Young Jeezy,Bleu Davinci

Criminal associations-The Black Mafia Family (BMF), was a drug trafficking organization originally based in Detroit, Michigan. Founded by the Flenory brothers Demetrius and Terry, the organization began in the late 1980s. By the year 2000, they had established cocaine distribution cells in cities throughout the United States. Through their Los Angeles-based drug source, they had direct links to Mexican-based drug cartels.They established two main hubs for their operation: the Atlanta, Georgia hub, for distribution, was operated by older brother Demetrius, while the Los Angeles, California hub was operated by Terry to handle incoming shipments from Mexico. The organisation moved into the hip hop business during 2000 and had associations with stars such as jay z, nelly and fabulous. They also kept ties to various street gangs such as the campanella park piru bloods in compton who were supplying them with drugs that they would then ship across the country.

Acticvity- Nationwide cocaine trafficking, money laundering and murder.

Connected violence- Murders of P-Diddy associate Anthony 'wolf' Jones, Rashanniball 'Prince'Drummond, Ulysses Hackett and Misty Carter

Death Row Records
Los Angeles
1991-2006
Founders and associates-Marion 'Suge' Knight, Michael 'Harry O' Harris, Jake Robles,David Mack, Kevin Gaines, Rafael Perez.
Notable artists-Dr Dre,Snoop Dogg,Tupac,Warren G,DJ Quick,Nate Dogg

Criminal Associations- One of the most successful music labels of all time, death row records sales climbed to $125 million in just four years. However it was also marred in controversy from its inception, with links to gangs, violence,threats,police scandals and the culminating murders of Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls. The label was strongly tied to the MOB piru bloods gang through Knight and his enforcer Jake Robles but employed crips as well.

Activity-Alledged gang activity,threats,intimidation, assaults, kidnapping and murder.

Connected violence- Murders of tupac shakur, christopher wallace, southside crip kelly jamerson, jake robles, randy 'stretch' walker, a bounty hunter blood and drug dealer named bruce and his girlfriends slaying a week later.

Czar Entertainment (or the rosemond organisation)
1990s-present
Founders and associates- Jimmy 'the Henchman' Rosemond, Khalil Abdullah, Dexter Issac.
Notable artists-Game,Brandy, Akon, Shyne, Sean Kingston, Gucci Mane

Criminal associations- On June 5, 2012 Henchman was convicted of drug trafficking, obstruction of justice, firearms violations and other financial crimes associated with his being the head of a multi-million dollar transnational cocaine selling organization. This came after he was indicted in 2011 on federal charges of drug trafficking, money laundering, obstruction and weapons charges. In February 2012, he was arrested for the murder-for-hire of Lodi Mack, an associate of rapper 50 Cent. Authorities found that rosemond was shuttling large quantities of cocaine and cash back and forth from new york and california in music cases and used Universal owned record label Interscopes offices as stash houses for both drugs and money. The investigation also found that the cocaine was being supplied from a number of sources including members of the west coast bloods and crips.

Activity- Inter coastal drug trafficking, money laundering and murder.

Connected violence- Murder of 50 cent associate Lodi Mack, another informant, dexter isaac has stated that Rosemond hired him and others to rob tupac shakur at the quad recording studios in 1994 which resulted in Tupac being shot several times but surviving.

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More info on death row. Following tupac shakur murder there was over a dozen shootings and killings in compton tied to the bloods and crips. The bloods believed that members of the south side crips specifically an affiliate named orlando 'baby lane' anderson was responsible for the fatal shooting of tupac.

Ruthless Records
Los Angeles
1987
Founders-Eric 'Easy E' Wright, Jerry Heller
Notable artists- NWA, Bone Thugs n Harmony,The DOC, Kid Frost,Kokane

Criminal associations- Easy E was a member of the Kelly Park Compton Crips who dealt drugs. In 1986, at the age of 23, Wright had allegedly earned as much as USD $250,000 from dealing drugs. However, he decided that he could make a better living in the Los Angeles hip-hop scene, which was growing rapidly in popularity. He financed his music label with drug money and along with manager Jerry Heller created Ruthless Records.

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Roc-A-Fella Records
New York
1996-present
Founders-Shawn "Jay Z" Carter, Damon "Dame" Dash, Kareem "Biggs" Burke
Notable Artists- Kanye West, Beanie Sigel, Camron, Jadakiss

Criminal associations- Although the label itself has never been implicated in any illegal activity,a number of its affiliates have had run ins with the law. During the 1980s and early 90s Jay Z allegedly dealt crack and was part of a crew that operated in brooklyn, New jersey and also expanded into Baltimore and even had one attempt on his life when a rival tried to assassinate him with a tech 9 machine gun. Rapper beanie sigel has also alleged to have been involved with drug dealings and violent turf battles in philadelphia.Around 2000 Sigel was rolling with guys from the 23rd and Tasker crew, against a group that operated in the area of 16th and Annin in South Philly. The deaths of Kevin Jackson, Ricky Stevenson, Ray Nina and Edmund Thomas—names that loomed large in the street—were all tied to that ongoing battle. Sigel's own stepfather Sam Derry who was murdered tragically in October of 2005, Derry according to law enforcement offials was one of the last remnants of the muslim based Junior Black Mafia of Philadelphia , which was seen as a rogue outfit of Nation of Islam members whom not only dealt drugs but operated as hitmen for the N.O.I temple in Philadelphia.In 2004, Sigel was found guilty of federal weapons charges and sentenced to a year and a day in federal prison. In 2010, Sigel was charged with three counts of failing to file tax returns on income of over $1 million between 2003–2005. Sigel pled guilty to the charges and was sentenced to 24 months in prison.[23] He will report to prison on September 12, 2012. More recently former founder Kareem'Biggs' Burke was convicted along with others of running a marijuana trafficking operation.The Complaint charges 40 individuals with allegedly
distributing marijuana in New York City and in New Jersey. These
defendants include KAREEM BURKE, a/k/a "Biggs," one of the
founders of Roc-A-Fella Records, MATTHEW WOODSTOCK STANG, a/k/a
"Magazine Guy," an advertising representative for High Times
magazine, and members of three separate "cells." While the three
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separate cells independently controlled areas where marijuana was
sold, they depended on each other, and on the same transportation
network, for the distribution of the marijuana they sold to
customers in New York and New Jersey.
During the course of the investigation, law enforcement
agents discovered the following:
• RODRIGUEZ discussed "grow houses" located in New York
City and obtained marijuana from BURKE
• RODRIGUEZ discussed with BURKE the possibility of
obtaining marijuana from California
• Members of the cells smuggled narcotics proceeds on
commercial flights
• Members of the cells accessed a location that was later
found to contain 22 pounds of marijuana and $77,000

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Beanies Lawyer is an A**hole, guy is so full of himself, a lot of these Major Drug Traffickers get him for Federal Cases when there already nailed down, he just takes their money. I saw him in court a few months back, he goes to the judge who his defendant is sitting right behind him, "Oh I haven't read any of this yet." Real Arrogant Bastard, its funny whenever hes leaving the courthouse always looking around/over his shoulder. I mean there are other attorneys who are just as prominent as he is. but I guess they know how to handle themselves a little better. Yeah btw he didn't get Beanie off, Beanies Money, got him off.


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Had some good rap music from these labels in the past, especially Death row, loved west coast rap of the 90s. Now we have Lil Wayne and Drake, as Nas said Hip Hop is dead.

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Yeah its mostly just pop music now.

Takedown Records
Philadelphia
1998-2005
Founders-Alton "Ace Capone" Coles, Tim "Gotti" Baukman
Notable artists- Bugsy, Philly Swain

Criminal associations-Takedown records was a front for a $25 million dollar network run by Coles and Baukman that flooded the streets of philadelphia with crack and powder cocaine.According to ATF agents, that enterprise was responsible for 21 shootings and seven murders, though only one shooting is listed in the indictment.The organisation operated in Southwest Philadelphia, Southern New Jersey and Delaware.Coles was eventually arrested and sentenced to 55 years to life.
PHILADELPHIA, March 23 /PRNewswire/ -- Mark W. Potter, Special Agent in Charge of the Philadelphia Division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms and Explosives (ATF), and Patrick L. Meehan, United States Attorney
for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, announced today the indictment of 19
people, including Take Down Records owner Alton "Ace" Coles and 16 others
arrested on firearms, drug trafficking, financial and wire fraud charges as
well as conducting a continuing criminal enterprise. The 175-count indictment returned by a federal grand jury March 22 alleges that a drug distribution ring and continuing criminal enterprise run by Coles and Timothy Baukman was responsible for the distribution of approximately 1,200 kilograms of cocaine and 600 kilograms of crack cocaine in and around southwest Philadelphia from 1998 to August 2005.
The indictment also lists 25 firearms recovered by ATF, often from suspects in possession of, or dealing in, cocaine. ATF seized approximately $800,000 in currency as well as three vehicles, including a Bentley Rolls- Royce, three Philadelphia residences and one residence in Salem County, N.J "ATF has made combating violence in southwest Philadelphia a priority," said Potter. "We not only have targeted the shooters and dealers on the street, but also sought to seize their ill-gotten assets and charge those that have assisted in illegally obtaining or hiding them." The indictment alleges that with the proceeds from his narcotics
distribution, Coles purchased two luxury vehicles in Philadelphia in which he
had a woman falsify loan applications concerning employment and salary, title
the cars in her name to conceal Coles' ownership and make payments with money
provided by Coles. Coles also used drug proceeds to purchase a residence in
Gloucester County, N.J., using a different woman to falsify loan applications
in order to obtain a mortgage. Coles also purchased a third vehicle with drug
proceeds and titled the vehicle himself. Baukman is alleged to have used drug proceeds to lease two apartments, including one in Lansdowne, Pa., where ATF special agents recovered 44 "kilo wrappers" used to wrap kilogram quantities of cocaine and 10 firearms on Aug. 10, 2005.

The following were named in the March 22 superseding indictment and have
been arrested without incident:

- Gary Creek, 24, Baltimore
- Alton Coles, 32, Woodstown, NJ
- Kristina Latney, 30, Philadelphia
- Timothy Baukman, 30, Philadelphia
- Anwar Linder, 25, Philadelphia
- Keenan Brown, 24, Philadelphia
- James Morris, 31, Quinton, NJ
- Jamar Campbell, 30, Philadelphia
- Monique Pullins, 22, Philadelphia
- Robert Cooper, 25, Philadelphia
- Asya Richardson, 25, Philadelphia
- Linnette Simpson, 35, Philadelphia
- Charlton Custis, 24, Philadelphia
- Terry Walker, 31, Philadelphia
- Desmond Faison, 30, Philadelphia
- Al Zuagar, 35, Philadelphia
- Hakiem Johnson, 45, Philadelphia

Activity- Drug trafficking, Money Laundering, weapons violationsand murder.

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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
I know there is a few people on here interested in this particular subject so I've done a rundown of some of the major rap labels that have been caught up in some trouble over the years.

The Inc (Formerly Murder Inc)
new york
Mid 90s- present
Founders- Irv Gotti, Chris Gotti, Ja Rule
Notable Artists-Ja Rule,Ashanti,Rah Digga, Lloyd

Criminal associations- Kenneth "Supreme"Mcgriff. A convicted drug lord and leader of the supreme team drug gang that operated a $200,000 dollar a day crack cocaine operation in queens and harlem during the 1980s. After serving 10 years was released in 97 and became very close with irv gotti.Investigators have alleged that McGriff, 43, bankrolled Gotti and has "provided Murder, Inc. with 'muscle'--threats, violence, and intimidation."

Activity-Drug trafficking in NY and Baltimore, money laundering, attempted murder, murder.

Connected violence- murders of Eric Smith,Troy Singleton,Karon Clarret and one of his friends, Jam Master Jay. Attempted murder of 50 Cent.

Thizz Entertainment(formerly Romp Records)
Bay Area
Founders-Mac Dre, Jamal Diggs, Simon'kilo curt' Curtis
Notable artists-E40, Mac Mall, Yukmouth, Keak da Sneak

Criminal Associations- 1980s- 1990s: Romper Room gang. To finance there music ventures Dre, Diggs and curtis trafficked drugs and robbed banks and businesses until their arrests 1992. Dre was released and continued to perform until his shooting and murder in kansas city in 2004.
2012:CUrrent head of Thizz Ent Michael Lott and numerous rappers and associates were recently indicted for running a large scale ecstasy trafficking that distributed in vallejo, bay area,oklahoma, New york, atlanta and milwaukee.

Connected violence-Anthony 'Fat Tone' Watkins and Jermaine 'Cowboy' Aikens were killed in retaliation for Mac Dres murder.

BMF Entertainment (or the Black Mafia Family)
Detroit, Atlanta, Los Angeles
1980s- 2005
Founders and associates-Demetrius 'Big Meech' Flennory, Terry'southwest t' flennory,Chad'J-Bo' Brown, Eric 'Slim' Bivens, Fleming Daniels
Notable Artists-Young Jeezy,Bleu Davinci

Criminal associations-The Black Mafia Family (BMF), was a drug trafficking organization originally based in Detroit, Michigan. Founded by the Flenory brothers Demetrius and Terry, the organization began in the late 1980s. By the year 2000, they had established cocaine distribution cells in cities throughout the United States. Through their Los Angeles-based drug source, they had direct links to Mexican-based drug cartels.They established two main hubs for their operation: the Atlanta, Georgia hub, for distribution, was operated by older brother Demetrius, while the Los Angeles, California hub was operated by Terry to handle incoming shipments from Mexico. The organisation moved into the hip hop business during 2000 and had associations with stars such as jay z, nelly and fabulous. They also kept ties to various street gangs such as the campanella park piru bloods in compton who were supplying them with drugs that they would then ship across the country.

Acticvity- Nationwide cocaine trafficking, money laundering and murder.

Connected violence- Murders of P-Diddy associate Anthony 'wolf' Jones, Rashanniball 'Prince'Drummond, Ulysses Hackett and Misty Carter

Death Row Records
Los Angeles
1991-2006
Founders and associates-Marion 'Suge' Knight, Michael 'Harry O' Harris, Jake Robles,David Mack, Kevin Gaines, Rafael Perez.
Notable artists-Dr Dre,Snoop Dogg,Tupac,Warren G,DJ Quick,Nate Dogg

Criminal Associations- One of the most successful music labels of all time, death row records sales climbed to $125 million in just four years. However it was also marred in controversy from its inception, with links to gangs, violence,threats,police scandals and the culminating murders of Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls. The label was strongly tied to the MOB piru bloods gang through Knight and his enforcer Jake Robles but employed crips as well.

Activity-Alledged gang activity,threats,intimidation, assaults, kidnapping and murder.

Connected violence- Murders of tupac shakur, christopher wallace, southside crip kelly jamerson, jake robles, randy 'stretch' walker, a bounty hunter blood and drug dealer named bruce and his girlfriends slaying a week later.

Czar Entertainment (or the rosemond organisation)
1990s-present
Founders and associates- Jimmy 'the Henchman' Rosemond, Khalil Abdullah, Dexter Issac.
Notable artists-Game,Brandy, Akon, Shyne, Sean Kingston, Gucci Mane

Criminal associations- On June 5, 2012 Henchman was convicted of drug trafficking, obstruction of justice, firearms violations and other financial crimes associated with his being the head of a multi-million dollar transnational cocaine selling organization. This came after he was indicted in 2011 on federal charges of drug trafficking, money laundering, obstruction and weapons charges. In February 2012, he was arrested for the murder-for-hire of Lodi Mack, an associate of rapper 50 Cent. Authorities found that rosemond was shuttling large quantities of cocaine and cash back and forth from new york and california in music cases and used Universal owned record label Interscopes offices as stash houses for both drugs and money. The investigation also found that the cocaine was being supplied from a number of sources including members of the west coast bloods and crips.

Activity- Inter coastal drug trafficking, money laundering and murder.

Connected violence- Murder of 50 cent associate Lodi Mack, another informant, dexter isaac has stated that Rosemond hired him and others to rob tupac shakur at the quad recording studios in 1994 which resulted in Tupac being shot several times but surviving.






I would love this to be shown to the ignorant suburbanites who think that its harmless buying these labels albums. Its not harmless and you are supporting bs buy listening to these rappers.

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eventually everything that you bought in your life till now..a small part of your cash went into the mobs hands,thats reality...music is a big industry too,a lot of money and wheres money,theres the gangsters


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Originally Posted By: Toodoped
eventually everything that you bought in your life till now..a small part of your cash went into the mobs hands,thats reality...music is a big industry too,a lot of money and wheres money,theres the gangsters


I understand that.

I got a question for you.

If you were a parent, would you allow a crack cocaine dealer/murderer to come into your home and hang out with your kids?

So whats the difference of buying their music and inviting them into your home that way to play with your kids? Its just as bad.

I really don't think the average parent looks into it that deep and for that I think its bullshit. No fuckin way am I gonna allow my son or daughter to support a label that is ran by a convicted crack cocaine enterprise or group of murderers.

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The old rap music is brilliant ! The new rap music sucks donkey balls.
BMF and McGriff were pretty big players on the market for sure, but I couldn't care less about what these people do behind the scenes. When I buy an album, I buy it for its music, not for the personality of its producers.

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Originally Posted By: Wilson
Originally Posted By: Toodoped
eventually everything that you bought in your life till now..a small part of your cash went into the mobs hands,thats reality...music is a big industry too,a lot of money and wheres money,theres the gangsters


I understand that.

I got a question for you.

If you were a parent, would you allow a crack cocaine dealer/murderer to come into your home and hang out with your kids?

So whats the difference of buying their music and inviting them into your home that way to play with your kids? Its just as bad.

I really don't think the average parent looks into it that deep and for that I think its bullshit. No fuckin way am I gonna allow my son or daughter to support a label that is ran by a convicted crack cocaine enterprise or group of murderers.


You cant protect your kid from that,stopping it,you only gonna make it worse and in the past years it was the same...look at Sinatra,he was controlled by the mob,and every parent in the world support his music..Why?...because of the lyrics?..."the lady is a tramp"?every generatin has its own...its own path,and a lot of music groups and singers were controled by gangsters...in the past gangsters were cool,now every1 wants to be a gangster or at least hang out with one,sadly thats todays youth,right now its anarchy time, but in a diferent(worst)way wink

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Originally Posted By: Toodoped
eventually everything that you bought in your life till now..a small part of your cash went into the mobs hands,thats reality...music is a big industry too,a lot of money and wheres money,theres the gangsters


I understand that.

I got a question for you.

If you were a parent, would you allow a crack cocaine dealer/murderer to come into your home and hang out with your kids?

So whats the difference of buying their music and inviting them into your home that way to play with your kids? Its just as bad.

I really don't think the average parent looks into it that deep and for that I think its bullshit. No fuckin way am I gonna allow my son or daughter to support a label that is ran by a convicted crack cocaine enterprise or group of murderers.


You cant protect your kid from that,stopping it,you only gonna make it worse and in the past years it was the same...look at Sinatra,he was controlled by the mob,and every parent in the world support his music..Why?...because of the lyrics?..."the lady is a tramp"?every generatin has its own...its own path,and a lot of music groups and singers were controled by gangsters...in the past gangsters were cool,now every1 wants to be a gangster or at least hang out with one,sadly thats todays youth,right now its anarchy time, but in a diferent(worst)way wink


The people that controlled Sinatra were not the same as the gang bangers that control the rap labels nowdays. The rap labels are owned by the people that real gangsters would love to piss on.

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Wilson, wtf are you talking about. Sounds like you just don't like rap. What about vicious rap songs that are made by labels that are not run by criminals? Those are ok, I assume.

And the guys that 'controlled Sinatra', or any mob/criminal element in the music industry back in the day, were using the money to bankroll more illegal shit...just like the gangster rappers; how exactly is there a difference?

Also...'real' gangsters? Criminals are criminals, just because Hollywood has cast this 'honorable gentleman' romantic view on gangsters of the past, does not put them on any higher of a pedestal...a killer is a killer, all scum.

If the qualifier to not support a business, is based on what the ownership is up to, then there is a LOT of stuff you should be avoiding, least of which is rap music.

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Originally Posted By: Nick_the_Greek
Wilson, wtf are you talking about. Sounds like you just don't like rap. What about vicious rap songs that are made by labels that are not run by criminals? Those are ok, I assume.

And the guys that 'controlled Sinatra', or any mob/criminal element in the music industry back in the day, were using the money to bankroll more illegal shit...just like the gangster rappers; how exactly is there a difference?

Also...'real' gangsters? Criminals are criminals, just because Hollywood has cast this 'honorable gentleman' romantic view on gangsters of the past, does not put them on any higher of a pedestal...a killer is a killer, all scum.

If the qualifier to not support a business, is based on what the ownership is up to, then there is a LOT of stuff you should be avoiding, least of which is rap music.


Those people that controlled Sinatra were not dealing crack rocks on the corner and they were not killing innocent children and whatever else kind of shit those monkeys do who run rap labels. Not saying that all of them are criminals. Just saying the ones that are, are nothing but pieces of shit.

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The people that controlled Sinatra were not the same as the gang bangers that control the rap labels nowdays. The rap labels are owned by the people that real gangsters would love to piss on.


What? are you trying to say that the BMF,Kenneth 'Supreme' Mcgriff and Mac Dre arent "real gangsters". I think selling millions of dollars worth of drugs, robbing banks and killing people at the same time makes them real gangsters.

What exactly makes a "real gangster" if not all that?

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The people that controlled Sinatra were not the same as the gang bangers that control the rap labels nowdays. The rap labels are owned by the people that real gangsters would love to piss on.


What? are you trying to say that the BMF,Kenneth 'Supreme' Mcgriff and Mac Dre arent "real gangsters". I think selling millions of dollars worth of drugs, robbing banks and killing people at the same time makes them real gangsters.

What exactly makes a "real gangster" if not all that?


When I open up the dictionary, I don't see a picture of the people you have listed. I see a picture of Tony Accardo.

I think you get my point.

Fuck Kenneth BB G Funk or whatever his name is.

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No actually i don't get your point. Tony Accardo was practically the same thing as the people i listed, he made millions of dollars off of crime and killed people at the same time.

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No actually i don't get your point. Tony Accardo was practically the same thing as the people i listed, he made millions of dollars off of crime and killed people at the same time.


Sorry I just don't classify the black gang members as real gangsters. Call me racist, but its just how I feel.

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No actually i don't get your point. Tony Accardo was practically the same thing as the people i listed, he made millions of dollars off of crime and killed people at the same time.


Sorry I just don't classify the black gang members as real gangsters. Call me racist, but its just how I feel.


Dont let rap music fool ya,ever heard of Bumpy Johnson or Madam Stephanie St. Clair or Eddie Jones?

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No actually i don't get your point. Tony Accardo was practically the same thing as the people i listed, he made millions of dollars off of crime and killed people at the same time.


Sorry I just don't classify the black gang members as real gangsters. Call me racist, but its just how I feel.


Pretty arrogant view I might add. But you aren't the only one who holds this view. Even with the rise of Post-Soviet, Balkan, Hispanic, Black, Asian, White Supremacist,...etc etc mobs there are still people who say that the Italians are 'the one and only'. Yes, they might still be (among) the strongest but they aren't the only ones anymore, by any stretch of the imagination.
Gangs like Gangster Disciples, Zoe Pound, Black Guerilla Family,...all have top guys who are very organized. Where's the big difference with the Italians ? Sure the black gangs might base their empire on crack while the Italians make money of of heroin. But the bottom line is : both types of criminal groups have their rich top members and their less rich and more low-level members.
Both sides are singing the same old song.

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Listen,

You are comparing Apples to Oranges here. I don't give a fuck if both sides commit the same crimes. Its the way they present themselves!

Would I classify some dirty fucking crack head gang member as a fucking gangster? Fuck no.

Why the fuck should they even be in the same conversation as a guys like Tony Accardo? Can you explain that to me? There is nothing even similiar between the two when you talk about personality and charisma.

Not saying that mob guys (Italians) are innocent of some serious shit. But overall if I wanted to invite someone to my house ,would I invite a fucking gangster deciple? I don't think so!

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For the record, not every member of Black Guerilla Family for instance looks like 'some dirty fucking crack head gang member'. The more organized gangs also have their members who dress smart.
Tony Accardo...you're mentioning a high-level member of the Outfit here, not a lower soldier or associate. By the way, if you think that every Italian mobster looks as stylish as you can see in those ignorant Hollywood-movies, then I urge you to check out some of the charts on this board. Take the one of the Chicago Outfit for instance, some of them look pretty dirty to me.
Would I invite a criminal in my house ? If I have known the guy for a long time, why wouldn't I ? They're part of our society, wheter you like it or not.

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By the way, if you think that every Italian mobster looks as stylish as you can see in those ignorant Hollywood-movies, then I urge you to check out some of the charts on this board.
case in point, marty angelina!




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larry hoover, jeff fort , willie loyd, freeway rick ross, best friends gang, young boys inc, JBM,bloods and crips. Although i dont admire or think their heroes, you can't deny the fact that they are or were gangsters to the fullest extent of the word and from an analytical viewpoint they practically shaped the drug and gang landscape to what it is.

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Lol


Michael Sarno also is a far cry from John Gotti grin

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Fair enough. But you guys sure picked out the two worst photos that these men have ever taken. Don't judge a mug shot as a pic that does these guys justice.

For example ......




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Why the fuck should they even be in the same conversation as a guys like Tony Accardo? Can you explain that to me?


Speaking about Accardo and the outfit,do you know that back in late 40's when Tony and Giancana were rulling the streets,black gangsters were rulling their own black neighborhoods and had more money than the outfit guys?do you know why?cuz of the numbers racket!at first the outfit didnt belive in the numbers racket and after that Giancana saw the golden mine and kill a hell lot of black gangsters just to get to it...so dont underestimate em black g's from back in tha days wink cool


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Dont know why you chose that photo for, hes just wearing the standard grandad costume.
So basically if gangbangers dont dress like this there not "real gangsters".

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I believe the difference between the black "gangs" and the Cosa Nostra is that Bloods and Crips wanna be known. They'll do anything for Notiriety, so they are gonna dress loud with the Gold and Platinum BS. The mob is supposed to blend in and be classy. They aren't gonna wild the fuck out with a Mac-10.

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Sounds like you're buying the BS PolishPrince. The Mafia has committed many crimes and gotten their hands bloody many times in order to gain notoriety. They dress loud, they wear gold and platinum too.

And quite often they too would 'wild the fuck out'.

And that is THROUGHOUT their history in America.

The style is different, the substance is not. Both are criminals, both lack morals, both have the hot heads and bad eggs mixed in.


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