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#638854 - 03/08/12 09:59 AM Irish Mob Charts
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This is a list of members of different Irish organized crime groups in the United States. Some of these mob organizations are still around and some are not. Yes, there were other Irish gangs like the Gophers of New York and the Valley Gang of Chicago, but this list is of all the Irish mob organizations, not regular street gangs.



Spillane Gang
Time Period: 1942-1976
Location: New York City
Neighborhood: Hells Kitchen in Manhattan

1. Bill Beatie (1967-1974) A soldier, joined the Westies in 1974.
2. Eddie "The Butcher" Cummisky (1956-1974) A lieutenant, joined the Westies in 1974, murdered in 1976.
3. Tom Devaney (1956-1976) Spillane's second-in-command, murdered in 1976.
4. John "Cockeye" Dunn (1942-1949) Eddie McGrath's second-in-command, the brother-in-law of McGrath, executed in prison in 1949.
5. Daniel "Danny" Gentile (1942-1947) A soldier, became a police informant in 1947.
6. Tom "The Greek" Kapatos (1945-1977) A Greek-American soldier, murdered in 1977.
7. Eddie McGrath (1942-1959) First boss, retired in 1959, died four years later at the age of 57.
8. James "Jimmy" McManus (1965-1976) A soldier, Spillane's brother-in-law.
9. Andrew "Squint" Sheridan (1942-1949) A soldier, executed in prison in 1949.
10. Michael "Mickey" Spillane (1953-1976) Second boss, became boss after Eddie McGrath retired in 1959, murdered in 1977.

The Westies
Time Period: 1974-Present
Location: New York City
Neighborhood: Hells Kitchen in Manhattan

1. Bill Beatie (1974-1986) A soldier, formerly a member of the Spillane Gang, became an informant for the FBI in 1986.
2. William "Billy" Bokun (1974-Pr) A lieutenant, imprisoned in 1988, released in 2001, reported to be still active.
3. James "Jimmy" Coonan (1974-1988) First boss, Sentenced to 75 years in prison in 1988.
4. John "Jackie" Coonan Jr. (1974-1988) A soldier, brother of Jimmy Coonan, died of AIDS in 1988.
5. John "Little Jackie" Coonan III. (1993-Pr) John Bokun's second-in-command, son of John Coonan and nephew of Jimmy Coonan, reported to be still active.
6. Jason Coonan (1995-Pr) A soldier, son of John Coonan and nephew of Jimmy Coonan, reported to be still active.
7. Edward "Eddie" Cummiskey (1974-1976) Jimmy Coonan's second-in-command, formerly a member of the Spillane Gang, murdered in 1976.
8. John Bokun (1995-Pr) Current boss, nephew of William Bokun, became boss after Bosko Randonjich was sent to prison in 1999, sent to prison for smuggling marijuana in February 2012.
9. Thomas "Tommy" Collins (1974-Pr) A soldier, sent to prison in 1988, released in 1997, reported to be still active.
10. Francis "Mickey" Featherstone (1974-1986) Became Jimmy Coonan's second-in-command after Eddie Cummiskey was murdered in 1976, left the gang after becoming an informant for the FBI in 1986.
11. John "Johnny" Halo (1974-Pr) A soldier, reported to be still active.
12. Tommy Hess (1974-1982) A soldier, murdered in 1982.
13. Kevin Kelley (1977-1990) Second boss, became boss after Jimmy Coonan was sent to prison in 1988, sentenced to 40 years in prison in 1990, released in 2011, no longer active.
14. Anton "Tony" Lucich (1974-1985) A soldier, passed away in 1985.
15. James "Jimmy Mack" McElroy (1976-1993) A soldier, became an informant for the FBI in 1993.
16. Bosko "The Yugo" Randonjich (1988-1999) Third boss, became boss after Kevin Kelley was sent to prison in 1990, went to prison in 1999, released two years later and moved back to Yugoslavia.
17. Richard "Mugsy" Ritter (1974-Pr) A soldier, imprisoned in 1988, released in 2008, reported to be still active.
18. Richard "Richie" Ryan (1974-1986) A soldier, died of alcohol poisoning in 1986.
19. Kenneth "Kenny" Shannon (1982-Pr) A soldier, reported to be still active.
20. Brian Bentley (1990-Pr) A soldier, ran a burglary ring from 1990-1992, sentenced to 25 years in prison in 1992, reported to be still in prison.
21. John Bokun (1974-1977) A soldier, brother of William Bokun and father of John Bokun, murdered in 1977.

North Side Gang
Time Period: 1910-1935
Location: Chicago
Neighborhood: North Side of Chicago

1. Dean "Dion" O'Banion (1910-1924) First boss, murdered in 1924.
2. Earl "Hymie" Weiss (1910-1926) A lieutenant, murdered in 1926.
3. Vincent "The Schemer" Drucci (1910-1927) A soldier, full blooded Italian-American, killed by a cop in 1927.
4. George "Bugs" Moran (1910-1935) Second boss, became boss after Dion O'Banion was murdered in 1924, moved out of town in 1935.
5. Samuel "Nails" Morton (1910-1922) A soldier, murdered in 1922.
6. Louis "Two Gun" Alterie (1916-1935) A soldier, murdered in 1935.
7. Dan "Handsome Dan" Duffy (1922-1924) A soldier, murdered in 1924.
8. James Clark (1918-1929) Bugs Moran's second-in-command, the brother-in-law of Bugs Moran, murdered in 1929 at the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.
9. Frank "Tight Lips" Gusenburg (1914-1929) A tough Jewish soldier, murdered in 1929 at the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.
10. Peter Gusenberg (1914-1929) A tough Jewish soldier, brother of Frank Gusenberg, murdered in 1929 at the St Valentine's Day Massacre.
11. Adam "Adam Hayes" Heyer (1916-1929) A soldier, murdered in 1929 at the St Valentine's Day Massacre.
12. William "Willie" Marks (1913-1929) A lieutenant, bodyguard of Bugs Moran, defected and joined Al Capone as an associate in 1929, murdered in 1934.
13. Ted Newburry (1919-1933) A lieutenant, murdered in 1933.
14. Albert "Gorilla Al" Weinshank (1920-1929) A soldier, murdered in 1929 at the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.
15. William "Billy" Skidmore (1913-1930) A soldier, saloon owner and gambler, defected and joined Al Capone as an associate in 1930, died in 1949.
16. Leo Mongoven (1924-1935) A soldier, bodyguard of Bugs Moran, died of natural causes in 1985.
17. Joe White (1920-1930) A soldier, moved out of town in 1930.
18. Frank Foster (1924-1930) A lieutenant, worked under Bugs Moran until joining the Capone Mob as an associate in 1930.
19. George Davis (1926-1935) A soldier, driver for Bugs Moran.
20. Herman Walters (1925-1932) A tough Jewish soldier, went missing in 1932.
21. Francis Callanaugh (1925-1935) A soldier, joined the North Side Gang at the age of 19.
22. James Patrick "Big Jim" O'Leary (1910-1925) Early Chicago gangster, ran gambling on the North Side of Chicago, died of natural causes in 1925.

The Combine
Time Period: 1923-1933
Location: New York City and Providence

1.Wlliam "Big Bill" Dwyer (1923-1926) Boss from 1923 until he retired in 1926, died in 1946.
2. Owney "The Killer" Madden (1923-1933) Boss from 1926 until 1933, former member of the Gophers street gang, owned the Cotton Club, died in 1965.
3. Charles "Vannie" Higgins (1923-1932) boss of the Brooklyn faction of the Combine, owned the El Fey Night Club, murdered in 1932.
4. Danny Walsh (1923-1933) leader of the Providence faction of the Combine, close friend of Joe Kennedy of Boston, kidnapped and murdered in 1933.
5. William "Bad Bill" Bailey (1923-1933) A soldier, member of the Brooklyn faction, died in 1944.
6. Robert "Whitey" Benson (1923-1931) A soldier, member of the Brooklyn faction, murdered in 1931.
7. Irving Bitz (1923-1933) A soldier, member of the Brooklyn faction.
8. Chick Hyland (1923-1933) A soldier, former member of the Gophers street gang.
9. Joseph Walsh (1923-1933) A soldier, member of the Providence faction, brother of Danny Walsh, died in 1947.
10. George "Big Frenchie" De Mauge (1923-1933) French member, Owney Madden's second-in-command.
11. Carlton O'Brien (1925-1933) A soldier, member of the Providence faction, murdered in 1952 at the age of 49.

The Celtic Club
Time Period: 1975-1977
Location: Cleveland
Neighborhood: Collinwood

1. Danny Greene (1975-1977) The boss of the Celtic Club, formerly an associate of the Cleveland LCN, became an informant for the FBI in 1974, murdered in 1977.
2. John Nardi (1975-1977) Italian-American soldier, Danny Greene's second-in-command, formerly associated with the Cleveland LCN, murdered in 1977.
3. Kevin Joseph McTaggart (1975-1977) A lieutenant, cousin of Danny Greene, became an associate of the Cleveland LCN in 1977, been serving a life sentence since 1983.
4. Brian O'Donnell (1975-1977) A soldier, reported to be still alive.
5. Bill Duffy (1975-1977) A soldier, not known if he is still living.
6. Danny Greene Jr. (1975-1977) A soldier, son of Danny Greene, reported to be still alive and living in Cleveland.
7. Keith Ritson (1975-1977) A lieutenant, once a Golden Gloves boxer, murdered in 1982.

Winter Hill Gang
Time Period: 1960-Present
Location: Boston, Somerville, Everett and Quincy

1. James "Buddy" McLean (1960-1965) First boss, murdered during the Irish Mob Wars in 1965.
2. Howard "Howie" Winter (1960-1977) Second boss, World War II veteran, ran New England's Irish Mob from 1965 until he was sentenced to 20 years in prison in 1977, released in 1987, no longer active, still alive and well.
3. Salvatore "Sal" Sperlinga (1965-1980) Italian-American gangster, lieutenant under Whitey Bulger, murdered in 1980.
4. Edward "Teddy" Deegan (1960-1965) A soldier, member under Buddy McLean, murdered during the Irish Mob Wars in 1965.
5. Patrick Nee (1975-1990) Well respected soldier, former United States Marine, member under Bulger, connected to the IRA, sentenced to 27 years in prison in 1990, released in 2003, retired and still lives in South Boston.
6. James "Whitey" Bulger (1972-1995) Third boss, took over the leadership after Howie Winter, owned the South Boston Liquor Mart, became an undercover informant for the FBI in 1975, went missing in 1995, found and sent to prison in 2011.
7. Kevin "Two" Weeks (1982-2000) Fourth boss, became an informant for the FBI in 2000.
8. George "Georgie Boy" Hogan (1985-Pr) Current boss, took over the leadership when Weeks defected, living in Boston at the age of 60, reported to be still active.
9. Anthony "Tony Blue" D'Agostino (1960-1965) A soldier, Italian-American hitman, bodyguard of Buddy McLean, went missing in 1965 after being shot and wounded by the McGlaughlin's.
10. Thomas "Tommy" Ballou Jr. (1960-1970) A soldier, Buddy McLean's driver, murdered in 1970.
11. Steven "The Rifleman" Flemmi (1970-1997) Italian-American member, Bulger's second-in-command, became an undercover informant for the FBI in 1975.
12. Kevin O'Neil (1975-2004) A soldier, owned Triple O's Lounge in South Boston, sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2004, reported to be still in prison.
13. John "Red" Shea (1985-1992) A lieutenant and drug dealer, became a street soldier at the age of 20, sentenced to 20 years in prison in 1992, released in 2000, not active, enjoys his life as an author with two books out.
14. John Martorano (1976-1999) A soldier, half Irish and half Italian descent, became an informant for the FBI in 1999.
15. John Joseph "Mick" Murray (1980-Pr) A soldier, released from prison in 2011 after serving 9 years behind bars, reported to be still active.
16. Jerry "Poker Face" Perkins (1973-Pr) A soldier, lives in South Boston, reported to be still active.
17. Thomas Ballot Jr. (1960-1970) Buddy McLean's bodyguard, murdered in 1970.
18. Louis "Louie" Litif (1976-1982) Lebanese-American bookmaker and Winter Hill Gang soldier, murdered in 1982 by Bulger.
19. William "Billy" Brymer (2001-Pr) A soldier, currently in prison for being involved in a car jacking.
20. Michael "Captain" Rocke (2000-Pr) A soldier, living in South Boston, reported to be still active.
21. Frederick Finnerty (1989-Pr) A soldier, living in Dorchester, reported to be still active.
22. Scott McDermott (2004-Pr) A soldier, currently living in Everett, reported to be still active.
23. James "Jimmy" Simms (1981-1986) A soldier, went missing in 1986 after being released from prison.
24. Bobby "Spike" Watson (2000-Pr) A soldier, lives in South Boston at age 46, reported to be still active.
25. Joseph "Joe Mac" McDonald (1960-1997) A soldier, original member of the Winter Hill Gang, World War II veteran and street fighter, the FBI's Top Ten Most Wanted fugitive, arrested in 1982 before he could turn himself in, died in 1997 just after being released from prison.
26. Edward "Eddie Mac" MacKenzie (1985-1993) A soldier, former drug dealer, not active, co-author of the book "Street Soldier: My Life as an Enforcer for Whitey Bulger and the Irish Mob."
27. James "Jimmy Pez" Flynn (1978-Pr) A soldier, small time actor, can be seen in such films as Good Will Hunting, What's the Worst That Could Happen? and The Cider House Rules, reported to be still active.
28. Richard Demas (1992-Pr) Hogan's second-in-command, known as a thief.
29. Paul "Pole Cat" Moore (1980s-1993) A soldier, became a police informant in 1993.
30. James M. Murphy (1968-1990s) A soldier, not active, once on Boston Police Department's Most Wanted List in the 1970s.
31. Timothy A. Connolly (1984-1989) A soldier, half Irish and half Italian descent, worked for Bulger until becoming an informant for the FBI in 1989, owned the Corner Cafe.
32. Michael "White Mike" McArdle (2002-Pr) A soldier, living in Quincy, reported to be still active.
33. Tommy Cahill (1987-Pr) A soldier, reported to be still active.
34. Vincent James "Jimmy The Bear" Flemmi (1973-1978) A soldier, brother of Steven Flemmi, sentenced to 50 years in prison for murder in 1978, died of a heroin overdose one year later in prison.
35. William "Billy Boy" Hogan (1989-Pr) A lieutenant, brother of George Hogan, reported to be still active.
36. James Turpin (1988-Pr) A soldier, currently in prison for selling drugs.
37. Richard "Richie Rich" Turpin (1978-Pr) A soldier, uncle of James Turpin, reported to be still active.
38. James Montgomery (1995-Pr) A soldier, selling vicodin and okycodone pills on the streets of Boston, reported to be still active.
39. Thomas Ryan (1967-Pr) A soldier, living in Boston at the age of 80, reported to be still active.
40. Patrick "Dizzy" Coarke (2000-Pr) A soldier, living in Quincy, reported to be still active.
41. Ralph Valencourt (1986-Pr) A soldier, living in Boston at the age of 54, reported to be still active
42. Jeff "Sidearm Lenny" Linberg (1997-Pr) A soldier, half Irish and half German descent, street fighter, reported to be still active.
43. Gregory McGlaughlin (1980s-Pr) A soldier, not related to the McGlaughlin's from Charlestown, reported to be still active.
44. Robert "Bobby Quarters" Nee (1978-Pr) A soldier, living in Boston at the age of 62, reported to be still active.
45. Russell Nicholson (1960-1964) A soldier, original member of the Winter Hill Gang, formerly a police officer, murdered during the Irish Mob Wars in 1964.
46. Harold "The Killer" Wright (1967-1995) A soldier, top hitman for Bulger & Flemmi, not active, still alive and living in Ventura, CA.
47. Alexander "Alex" Petricone (1960-1972) Well respected soldier, full blooded Italian-American, left the Winter Hill Gang to pursue a career in acting in 1972, later became a big star under the name Alex Rocco, played Moe Green in the Godfather.
48. Frederick "Freddy" Weichel (1978-1980) A soldier, sentenced to 50 years in prison for murder after Bulger informed on him to the FBI, released in 2004 after the conviction was overturned, went back to prison two years later after the Massachusetts Supreme Court reinstated his conviction, many people say he was not involved in the murder.
49. Leo McDonald (1960-1975) A soldier, brother of Joseph McDonald, went missing in 1975.
50. Joseph Donahue (1978-2000) A soldier, nephew of Joseph & Leo McDonald, died in 2000.
51. Brian "Balloon Head" Halloran (1980-1982) A soldier, became an informant for the FBI in 1982, murdered in 1982 by Bulger after FBI agent John Connolly told him Holloran was an informant.
52. James Sousa (1973-1974) A soldier, full blooded Portuguese-American, became an informant for the FBI in 1974, murdered by Whitey Bulger and John Martorano in 1974.
53. George Joynt (1960-1961) A soldier, murdered during the Irish Mob Wars in 1961.
54. Anthony "Fat Tony" Ciulla (1973-1978) A soldier, half Irish and half Italian descent, master at fixing races, became an informant for the FBI in 1978.

McGlaughlin Bro's
Time Period: 1952-1966
Location: Boston
Neighborhood: Charlestown

1. Bernard "Bernie" McGlaughlin (1952-1961) First boss, murdered during the Irish Mob Wars in 1961.
2. George "Georgie" McGlaughlin (1952-1966) A soldier, brother of Bernie McGlaughlin, died in 1987 at the age of 60.
3. Edward "Punchy" McGlaughlin (1952-1965) Bernie's second-in-command, brother of Bernie & Georgie, murdered during the Irish Mob Wars in 1965.
4. Cornelius "Connie" Hughes (1952-1966) A soldier, murdered during the Irish Mob Wars in 1966.
5. Steve Hughes (1952-1966) A lieutenant, brother of Connie Hughes, murdered during the Irish Mob Wars in 1966.
6. Samuel "Sam" Lindenbaum (1952-1966) A soldier, the McGlaughlin's Jewish member, worked for the gang doing loansharking, murdered during the Irish Mob Wars in 1966.
7. Harold Hannon (1952-1965) A soldier, murdered in 1965 by the McGlaughlin's.
8. Wilfred J. Delaney (1952-1964) A soldier, murdered during the Irish Mob Wars in 1964.
9. John "Maxie" Shackelford (1958-1966) A soldier, not known if he is still living.
10. Arthur "Art" Doe Sr. (1959-1966) A soldier, murdered in 1967.
11. James "Spike" O'Toole (1958-1966) A lieutenant, murdered in 1973.
12. John Locke (1961-1966) A soldier, stil alive and well.












THE END


Edited by SC (07/20/12 03:55 PM)
Edit Reason: at request of original author to fix typo

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#638856 - 03/08/12 10:43 AM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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Very nicely presented. Good work, NJ!
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#638858 - 03/08/12 10:54 AM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: HairyKnuckles]
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Thanks Harry Knucks... Worked hard on it.

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#638866 - 03/08/12 11:51 AM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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Anyone know what happened to Danny Green Jr. after his father was blown up?
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#638874 - 03/08/12 12:42 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: Chopper2012]
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Nice work NJ
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#638934 - 03/08/12 06:42 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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Great post NJ.

There were a few other Irish gangs to include on the list, although I don't know about the members.

Egan's Rats and the Hogan gangs in St. Louis from the 1890's to about 1925.

The Gustin Gang in Boston during Prohibition.


Edited by TonyG (03/08/12 06:48 PM)
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#638991 - 03/09/12 12:07 AM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: TonyG]
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Originally Posted By: TonyG
Great post NJ.

There were a few other Irish gangs to include on the list, although I don't know about the members.

Egan's Rats and the Hogan gangs in St. Louis from the 1890's to about 1925.

The Gustin Gang in Boston during Prohibition.


Yeah, those were just gangs, though. They weren't actual mob groups. Very tough gangs of course.

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#639022 - 03/09/12 04:48 AM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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If somebody can put it up on the real deal that would be nice.

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#639036 - 03/09/12 07:44 AM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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Great lists! The Winter Hill gang list is especially impressive - I hadn't even heard of a lot of those guys.

Some notes about the North Side gang:

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1. Dean "Dion" O' Banion (1910-1924) First boss, murdered in 1924.


Charles Reiser was the de facto boss of these guys before O'Banion.

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2. Earl "Hymie" Weiss (1910-1926) A lieutenant, murdered in 1926.


His real name was "Henry Earl Wojciechowski", and he was the boss when killed.

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4. George "Bugs" Moran (1910-1935) Second boss, became boss after Dion O' Banion was murdered in 1924, moved out of town in 1935.


His real name was Adelard Cunin. Hymie Weiss and Schemer Drucci preceded him as boss. He became boss after Drucci was killed by Detective Healy.

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5. Samuel "Nails" Morton (1910-1922) A soldier, murdered in 1922.


He was kicked in the head by a horse, not murdered. Then Louis Alterie whacked the horse. lol

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9. Frank "Tight Lips" Gusenburg (1914-1929) A tough Jewish soldier, murdered in 1929 at the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.
10. Peter Gusenberg (1914-1929) A tough Jewish soldier, brother of Frank Gusenberg, murdered in 1929 at the St Valentine's Day Massacre.


IIRC, the Gusenbergs were German-American, not Jewish, but don't hold me to that. I think Frank's mob nickname was "Hock", and the media came up with that "Tight Lips" thing after he refused to talk following the St. Valentine's Day massacre, but don't hold me to that, either. ohwell

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13. Ted Newburry (1919-1933) A lieutenant, murdered in 1933.


Newberry also defected to the Outfit.

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14. Albert "Gorilla Al" Weinshank (1920-1929) A soldier, murdered in 1929 at the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.


His real last name was Weinshenker, FWIW.

Also, this is silly nitpicking, but anyway only a small fraction of the North Siders were Irish-American. It was a multiethnic mob that has come to be (somewhat incorrectly) identified as an "Irish Mob" due to the prominence of O'Banion and the mistaken belief that Moran was Irish (he was, believe it or not, French). I think Ragen's Colts (under the leadership of Ralph Sheldon) might have been the biggest full-blown "Irish Mob" in Chicago at the time.



Edited by Ivan (03/09/12 07:45 AM)

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#639037 - 03/09/12 07:54 AM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: Ivan]
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There you go starting stuff again. Nowhere does it say that there was another boss before O'Banion. He's the man who started the NSG. They had a gang of Irish hoods called the "North Side Rebels" that the person you listed as boss before O'Banion was the leader of. You love to just start issues, by posting things that aren't truthful.

I have gathered information for months through Irish Mob books, FBI reports and microfiche of old Newspaper articles on these organizations.

Hope you learn some time in the future!!! You are right about Albert "Gorilla Al" Weinshank, though.


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#639038 - 03/09/12 08:27 AM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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Calm down dude. I said "de facto" in that he was effectively the boss of hoods like O'Banion and others before the North Side gang coalesced. See the books by Rose Keefe.

So only the Weinshank thing was correct, and all those other suggestions were wrong?

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#639039 - 03/09/12 08:32 AM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: Ivan]
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It's the way you come across, bro. However, have a nice night.

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#639040 - 03/09/12 08:40 AM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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Originally Posted By: NJBoy55
It's the way you come across, bro. However, have a nice night.


I was being polite, or at least trying to be. No offense intended.

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#639061 - 03/09/12 02:05 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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On the Winter Hill gang, Joe McDonald's brother Leo and Joseph Donanhue, were two other members of the Somerville faction.

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#639062 - 03/09/12 02:28 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: ScottD]
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Thanks Scott D, I have Leo, but not to sure if Joe Donahue was an associate of the Winter Hill Gang or an actual member, that is why I didn't put him on the list. Didn't see any info that said he was a member. What year did he die or become not active anymore?

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#639064 - 03/09/12 02:40 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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Originally Posted By: NJBoy55
Thanks Scott D, I have Leo, but not to sure if Joe Donahue was an associate of the Winter Hill Gang or an actual member, that is why I didn't put him on the list. Didn't see any info that said he was a member. What year did he die or become not active anymore?


Joe was involved. He died in the early 2000s. He was the McDonald's nephew and lived across from them in Somerville.

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#639066 - 03/09/12 02:51 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: ScottD]
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Thanks again. Will add him to the WH chart.

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#639069 - 03/09/12 03:09 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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chopper 2012, I think you're referring to danny kelly, he was his oldest son when danny died. He never got involved in anything and to my knowledge lived a crime free life, I never recall his sons getting into anything sinister.

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#639070 - 03/09/12 03:14 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: CleveItalia]
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Originally Posted By: CleveItalia
chopper 2012, I think you're referring to danny kelly, he was his oldest son when danny died. He never got involved in anything and to my knowledge lived a crime free life, I never recall his sons getting into anything sinister.


NJBoy55 listed a Danny Green jr. as soldier, so I was wondering what happened to him after his dad was blown up. Wouldn't know if he was or wasn't involved in the live. Perhaps NJBoy can shed some light on this?
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#639074 - 03/09/12 03:28 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: CleveItalia]
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This is from an old Cleveland Newspaper article about Greene from October 1982.

Danny Greene encouraged his crime partners Kevin McTaggart, Keith Ritson, Brian O'Donnell and his son Danny Jr. to get involved in Irish history. Greene, who considered the Irish a superior race, was so well read in Celtic history that he probably could have taught the subjects on a post-graduate level. He was so imbued with a sense of his ancestry that he wore green clothes, drove a green car, handed out green pens and had his apartment decorated in green. Even in his final hectic days, he asked an aunt to prepare him a family tree. Greene's son Danny was a tough kid and was his only son that was involved in a life of crime.

Greene may have been a killer, but he had another side. Imagining himself as a feudal baron, he supported a number of destitute Collinwood families, paid tuition to Catholic schools for various children and, like the gangsters of the Twenties, actually had turkeys delivered to needy households on holidays.

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#639075 - 03/09/12 03:32 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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Danny jr is his son but his last name isn't greene, it's kelly after his mothers maiden name. I don't ever recall his son being involved in anything worthwhile, unless it was strictly working for his dad. After the bombing that whole crew essentially split up and/or went to jail and never was associated with anything organized. Shortly thereafter carmen z got in the mix and everything was controlled by again by the family.

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#639076 - 03/09/12 03:34 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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Another article about Danny Greene Jr. from the book "To Kill The Irishman." If you read on it talks more about him being in the vending machine racket with his dad.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Lykk81Y...and&f=false

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#639079 - 03/09/12 04:02 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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Originally Posted By: NJBoy55
Another article about Danny Greene Jr. from the book "To Kill The Irishman." If you read on it talks more about him being in the vending machine racket with his dad.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Lykk81Y...and&f=false


Interesting. Any idea what happened to him? Is he still alive?
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#639081 - 03/09/12 04:12 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: CleveItalia]
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Originally Posted By: CleveItalia
After the bombing that whole crew essentially split up and/or went to jail and never was associated with anything organized. Shortly thereafter carmen z got in the mix and everything was controlled by again by the family.


Interestingly, Carmen Zagaria is said to be a free man now and living in Cleveland openly. Also a free man is Ronald Carabbia, the guy who blew up Danny Greene.

So I guess the Cleveland mob saga has had a happy ending for Carabbia and Zagaria. lol

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#639083 - 03/09/12 04:24 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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Ronny the Crab! He's gotta be at least 80 years old by now. I read that his son and namesake still owns some bars and runs some sports gambling.
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#639084 - 03/09/12 04:27 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: Ivan]
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I dont mean to cause a internet battle over this but danny's son wasn't involved to the extent that you think he was, he was a teenager who drove around and did errands for his father. That entire crew worked as muscle for greene essentially, they loansharked that sold coke. That was the extent of their criminal mischeif. They had a couple rackets but wasn't anything I would put on the level of the teamsters. Greene's son is living a crime free life and has for a very long time now. That's about as exciting as I can put it. Once Danny died the entire crew split up. Mctaggert who was in a motorcycle gang was all muscle and sold coke, he eventually started buying it from carmen, just like kieth did, until they wacked out kieth. Carmen, tommy, and joey g took over everything drug related. I wouldn't even call the celtic club a crew, it was essentially three guys, one of whom had any real connections to anything worthwhile, they other two were along for the ride until the older guys put them all in their place. Other than that I think your work on the irish lists is impressive and a lot of work went into that.

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#639099 - 03/09/12 05:02 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: CleveItalia]
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Well, you can think what you want. Facts are facts buddy boy. Got my sources and I'm stickin' to them.

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#639102 - 03/09/12 05:13 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: Chopper2012]
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Ronny the Crab! He's gotta be at least 80 years old by now. I read that his son and namesake still owns some bars and runs some sports gambling.


You are right Chopper, he is up there in age, but he was always an associate. He's a top associate of what is left of the Cleveland LCN Fam.

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#639104 - 03/09/12 05:20 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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He was never made? Oh well, not much to be made in over there anyway these days.

Great charts btw. NJBoy55. So whats you're take on the Winter Hill gang these days? Still active as a crew or just some loose ends still operating?
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#639107 - 03/09/12 05:43 PM Re: Irish Mob Charts [Re: NJBoy55]
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What about the K&A Gang..Oft overlooked. Particularly active throughout the 1960s-early 1980s. Viable anyway. Wasn't a cohesive group in the beginning. More like a loose confederation. Still noteworthy, tho.

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