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#632258 - 01/30/12 01:03 AM Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc)
botz Offline

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http://www.americanmafia.com/News/3-15-00_Nove_Tocco_Turned.html

http://www.forensic-intelligence.org/mob/40062.htm

Who Do you think would win if a war happened between the Outlaws Mc and Detroit Mafia. Would it have been another Danny Greene incident like in Cleveland? If they was to kill Harry "Taco" Bowman it would have been a war.

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#632260 - 01/30/12 01:05 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: botz]
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Originally Posted By: botz
http://www.americanmafia.com/News/3-15-00_Nove_Tocco_Turned.html

http://www.forensic-intelligence.org/mob/40062.htm

Who Do you think would win if a war happened between the Outlaws Mc and Detroit Mafia. Would it have been another Danny Greene incident like in Cleveland? If they was to kill Harry "Taco" Bowman it would have been a war.
outlaws in my opinion. much more manpower and more prone to violence.
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#632284 - 01/30/12 02:49 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: botz]
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more prone to violence it doesn't mean more powerful, mafia is sure more powerful in detroit that bikers or street gangs so i bet they would win a war in a long period

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#632289 - 01/30/12 02:58 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: m2w]
Five_Felonies Offline

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Originally Posted By: m2w
more prone to violence it doesn't mean more powerful, mafia is sure more powerful in detroit that bikers or street gangs so i bet they would win a war in a long period
the outlaws are based out of chicago, and in the case of an all out war they have alot of more manpower to call on. granted, size doesnt always dictate power but the detroit mob would not do well in an all out war with a biker org as feared as the outlaws. theres a reason the outfit uses them for musle. also, if you think the dertroit mafia is more powerful than the many street gangs of detroit i couldnt disagree more. detroit is a hell hole run by murderous savages while whats left of that family is a bunch of old men concentrating on gambling rings. your right when you say that being prone to violence doesnt always mean more powerful, however if the mob stepped on the toes ofsome of those gangbangers they wouldnt think twice of taking revenge on family or relatives. drug gangs play by different rules.


Edited by Five_Felonies (01/30/12 02:59 AM)
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#632292 - 01/30/12 03:14 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: botz]
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however if the mob stepped on the toes ofsome of those gangbangers they wouldnt think twice of taking revenge on family or relatives. drug gangs play by different rules.


i doubt the street gangs have familiarity with the mob style, they know their zones rules with most of members wearing bandanas and show tattoos, they are easy targets
the made member of detroit mafia are known by other members only, a street gangs coulnd't know even where to start killing

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#632295 - 01/30/12 03:24 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: m2w]
Five_Felonies Offline

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Originally Posted By: m2w
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however if the mob stepped on the toes ofsome of those gangbangers they wouldnt think twice of taking revenge on family or relatives. drug gangs play by different rules.


i doubt the street gangs have familiarity with the mob style, they know their zones rules with most of members wearing bandanas and show tattoos, they are easy targets
the made member of detroit mafia are known by other members only, a street gangs coulnd't know even where to start killing
like getting your opinion,but have to disagree again. in the underworld money talks and getting/finding mobsters wouldnt be impossible, i bet with just a computer finding places where mobsters hang out could be done. if we were talking about the five families competing with street gangs you might have a better point but this is detroit for christs sake. that family will be lucky to even be around in 20 years and you can bet the gangs will still be there. face it, the dertoit family lost control of that warzone a long time ago and they arent coming back.
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#632297 - 01/30/12 03:35 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: Five_Felonies]
Five_Felonies Offline

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http://youtu.be/T6WKMNmFsxM


i would ask anyone to watch this and it should erase any doubts about whats left in detroit


Edited by Five_Felonies (01/30/12 03:37 AM)
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#632298 - 01/30/12 03:37 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: botz]
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These hypothetical scenarios just go in circles. Nevertheless, an all out war would almost certainly never happen. And even if it did, how you define "winning?" And, in the end, the real winners would be the feds.
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#632299 - 01/30/12 03:40 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: botz]
m2w Offline

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the mafia in detroit is not interested in selling drugs on the streets, it's too dangerous this days... if it's involved it's involved behind the scene as importer since it very close to sicilians
gangs are loosely organized, 1 indictment with heavy sentences could be enough to dismantled it totally, of course another gang would replce it but they are not the same organization permanent in time

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#632302 - 01/30/12 03:45 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: m2w]
Five_Felonies Offline

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Originally Posted By: m2w
the mafia in detroit is not interested in selling drugs on the streets, it's too dangerous this days... if it's involved it's involved behind the scene as importer since it very close to sicilians
gangs are loosely organized, 1 indictment with heavy sentences could be enough to dismantled it totally, of course another gang would replce it but they are not the same organization permanent in time
i think the drug cartels, mainly los zetas are the major drug importers in the area. oh, and maybe a few crazy middle easterners.
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#632303 - 01/30/12 03:53 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: botz]
m2w Offline

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i think a large amount of drug comes from canada and the mafia is sure involved

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#632304 - 01/30/12 03:54 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: botz]
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What's left of the Detroit family appears to have little to no interest in narcotics. I can't even remember the last drug bust involving the LCN in that city. What's left is the standard staples of bookmaking, loansharking, and whatever legit businesses some of them may have.


Edited by IvyLeague (01/30/12 03:54 AM)
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#632305 - 01/30/12 03:56 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: m2w]
Five_Felonies Offline

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Originally Posted By: m2w
i think a large amount of drug comes from canada and the mafia is sure involved
maybe some weed and mdma but the ghetto drugs like coke and heroin are almost certainly strait from the cartels as is the case in almost all major american cities, although there is alot of drug importation in and around montreal, i just dont think alot of it is destined for detroit.
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#632306 - 01/30/12 04:02 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: botz]
m2w Offline

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because of the proximity i think a large part of coke, mdma, cannabis and heroin could come from montreal

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#632311 - 01/30/12 04:15 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: m2w]
Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica Offline
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Originally Posted By: m2w
because of the proximity i think a large part of coke, mdma, cannabis and heroin could come from montreal


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#632313 - 01/30/12 04:17 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: m2w]
Five_Felonies Offline

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Originally Posted By: m2w
because of the proximity i think a large part of coke, mdma, cannabis and heroin could come from montreal
from my understanding most of the drugs imported into montreal are for use in that city and other parts of canada with some exceptions of coarse. alot more would come into the us back when the rizzuto/bonnano connection was stronger and as that died down so did the drug flow from montreal to the us. it just doesnt make sense for the cartels(who at this point nobody can deny are the top impoters of drugs worldwide) to risk thier loads getting them to canada and then again to the us. this is not to say that smaller players arent involved but the days of sicilians running the world drug markets are long gone. as far as italians go the calabrians are the top dogs now and although they have an increased influence in montreal as of late, they dont seem to be major impoters of drugs to the united states. they are more focused on the ever expanding european markets and canada and australia to a lesser extent
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#632314 - 01/30/12 04:29 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: Five_Felonies]
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
from my understanding most of the drugs imported into montreal are for use in that city and other parts of canada with some exceptions of coarse.


Yep. When it comes to Italian OC, most of the trafficking is going northward, not southward.
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#632322 - 01/30/12 06:58 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: botz]
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In the drug game your better dealing with blacks because they don't rat
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#632330 - 01/30/12 08:41 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti]
Nicholas Offline

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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
In the drug game your better dealing with blacks because they don't rat


Remember the Stop Snitching campaign? They're were singing all to well for awhile.
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#632332 - 01/30/12 08:52 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: Nicholas]
Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica Offline
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Originally Posted By: Nicholas
Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
In the drug game your better dealing with blacks because they don't rat


Remember the Stop Snitching campaign? They're were singing all to well for awhile.


Shirts and everything those fuckers had. They should have printed some up for the Colombo family and Massino-era Bonannos.
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#632333 - 01/30/12 08:57 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: m2w]
Nicholas Offline

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Originally Posted By: m2w
more prone to violence it doesn't mean more powerful


In the streets and in prison --- where it really matters, yeah it does. Felonies is right Detroit is probably going to be the first LCN family to be exinct, maybe after KC, but definitely up there. I like to think of myself as being honest with myself as to the state of the American mafia, maybe albeit a little to hopeful, naive, about the stability of the remaining families. But even if a rival crew of Nove Tocco (who's a snitch) tried to manipulate them into killing the head of a powerful biker gang; you really think there wouldn't be a far more brutal revenge on those wiseguys? Detroit may have some thick necked soldiers --- a handful, if that. But the Outlaws have literally hundreds, and whos far more down to Uzi some guys house or kill multiple enemies, instead of one good hit? Shit, when was Detroits last "hit", 2002?
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#632334 - 01/30/12 09:02 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica]
Nicholas Offline

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Originally Posted By: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica

Shirts and everything those fuckers had. They should have printed some up for the Colombo family and Massino-era Bonannos.


Those guys were more often than not, facing real prison sentences. And as with Massino, forfeiture of all assets ---fucking pieces of shit (the Feds more so than Massino). Most Yoms, who were the intended target of Stop Snitching are on drug or drug dealing pinches. A helluva lot different than drug trafficking RICO busts.


Edited by Nicholas (01/30/12 09:04 AM)
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#632337 - 01/30/12 09:20 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: botz]
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The fuck's a yom?


Edited by Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica (01/30/12 09:21 AM)
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#632347 - 01/30/12 10:31 AM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica]
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This is what snitchin gets you in the hood.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/video/050809_Mob_Talk_Kaboni_Savage_Drug_Ring

Suprised they didnt move the guys family somewhere else.

As for the whole mafia vs mc/street gangs thing it would never happen because their activities are too different. The mobs main thing is gambling, loansharking extortion and labour racketeering.These sorts of things dont lead them into any competition with other groups except maybe eachother. With street gangs the only people that threaten them are other street gangs and drug traffickers. Bikers only really ever fight with other bikers because thats their priority to make sure other mcs stay out of their town.


Edited by Scorsese (01/30/12 10:33 AM)

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#632366 - 01/30/12 04:04 PM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: Five_Felonies]
Mussolini14 Offline

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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
Originally Posted By: m2w
more prone to violence it doesn't mean more powerful, mafia is sure more powerful in detroit that bikers or street gangs so i bet they would win a war in a long period
the outlaws are based out of chicago, and in the case of an all out war they have alot of more manpower to call on. granted, size doesnt always dictate power but the detroit mob would not do well in an all out war with a biker org as feared as the outlaws. theres a reason the outfit uses them for musle. also, if you think the dertroit mafia is more powerful than the many street gangs of detroit i couldnt disagree more. detroit is a hell hole run by murderous savages while whats left of that family is a bunch of old men concentrating on gambling rings. your right when you say that being prone to violence doesnt always mean more powerful, however if the mob stepped on the toes ofsome of those gangbangers they wouldnt think twice of taking revenge on family or relatives. drug gangs play by different rules.


I have to disagree. Are you really trying to argue that guys the mob hires for muscle are more powerful than the ones paying them? That's like saying a soldier is more powerful than the Don because he uses them for muscle. As far as man power goes, I think they would be about even as for every "made member" there are 5-10 associates. Bikers walk around with jackets IDing who they are and I believe the mob would have a much easier time knocking off key members of bike gang more so than the other way around. IF you are familiar with the book "the 6th family" Even someone as highly ranked as HA Mom Boucher was subservient to Vito, granted Detroit might not be as powerful as Montreal and we really don't know for sure how big or small the Detroit family is. Scott from the Realdeal forum who wrote a book on the subject believes they have 40-50 made guys on the street and knowledgeable guys like Ivy think the number is closer to 20.

They would never fight anyway.


Edited by Mussolini14 (01/30/12 04:28 PM)

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#632367 - 01/30/12 04:11 PM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: Scorsese]
Mussolini14 Offline

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Loc: Ontario
Originally Posted By: Scorsese
This is what snitchin gets you in the hood.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/video/050809_Mob_Talk_Kaboni_Savage_Drug_Ring

Suprised they didnt move the guys family somewhere else.

As for the whole mafia vs mc/street gangs thing it would never happen because their activities are too different. The mobs main thing is gambling, loansharking extortion and labour racketeering.These sorts of things dont lead them into any competition with other groups except maybe eachother. With street gangs the only people that threaten them are other street gangs and drug traffickers. Bikers only really ever fight with other bikers because thats their priority to make sure other mcs stay out of their town.


You forgot drugs. Don't kid yourself ever mob family is involved in the drug trade. Granted they don't sell dime bags on the street corner but they supply and provide the trade routes. In a recent bust it came out that the Gambino's were overseeing the drug trade in Queens and reestablishing contacts with Mafia families in Italy to import heroin and cocaine.

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#632369 - 01/30/12 04:27 PM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: Mussolini14]
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Originally Posted By: Mussolini14
Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
Originally Posted By: m2w
more prone to violence it doesn't mean more powerful, mafia is sure more powerful in detroit that bikers or street gangs so i bet they would win a war in a long period
the outlaws are based out of chicago, and in the case of an all out war they have alot of more manpower to call on. granted, size doesnt always dictate power but the detroit mob would not do well in an all out war with a biker org as feared as the outlaws. theres a reason the outfit uses them for musle. also, if you think the dertroit mafia is more powerful than the many street gangs of detroit i couldnt disagree more. detroit is a hell hole run by murderous savages while whats left of that family is a bunch of old men concentrating on gambling rings. your right when you say that being prone to violence doesnt always mean more powerful, however if the mob stepped on the toes ofsome of those gangbangers they wouldnt think twice of taking revenge on family or relatives. drug gangs play by different rules.


I have to disagree. Are you really trying to argue that guys the mob hires for muscle are more powerful than the ones paying them? That's like saying a soldier is more powerful than the Don because he uses them for muscle. As far as man power goes, I think they would be about even as for every "made member" there are 5-10 associates. Bikers walk around with jackets IDing who they are and I believe the mob would have a much easier time knocking off key members of bike gang more so than the other way around. IF you are familiar with the book "the 6th family" Even someone as highly ranked as HA Mom Boucher was subservient to Vito, granted Detroit might not be as powerful as Montreal.

They would never fight anyway.
Originally Posted By: Mussolini14
Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
Originally Posted By: m2w
more prone to violence it doesn't mean more powerful, mafia is sure more powerful in detroit that bikers or street gangs so i bet they would win a war in a long period
the outlaws are based out of chicago, and in the case of an all out war they have alot of more manpower to call on. granted, size doesnt always dictate power but the detroit mob would not do well in an all out war with a biker org as feared as the outlaws. theres a reason the outfit uses them for musle. also, if you think the dertroit mafia is more powerful than the many street gangs of detroit i couldnt disagree more. detroit is a hell hole run by murderous savages while whats left of that family is a bunch of old men concentrating on gambling rings. your right when you say that being prone to violence doesnt always mean more powerful, however if the mob stepped on the toes ofsome of those gangbangers they wouldnt think twice of taking revenge on family or relatives. drug gangs play by different rules.


I have to disagree. Are you really trying to argue that guys the mob hires for muscle are more powerful than the ones paying them? That's like saying a soldier is more powerful than the Don because he uses them for muscle. As far as man power goes, I think they would be about even as for every "made member" there are 5-10 associates. Bikers walk around with jackets IDing who they are and I believe the mob would have a much easier time knocking off key members of bike gang more so than the other way around. IF you are familiar with the book "the 6th family" Even someone as highly ranked as HA Mom Boucher was subservient to Vito, granted Detroit might not be as powerful as Montreal.

They would never fight anyway.
some good points and although they would probably never fight this is a hypothetical situation. also for every full patch member of a biker gang there are many more prospects and hang-arounds just as the mob has associates. when the mob hires other groups out for muscle its for mutual benifit as in montreal. not trying to argue that the ha was more influential in montreal, as they have been decimated recently but to think that the rizzutos would give orders and the ha would follow blindly doesnt fly with me. working together is better for everyone which is why groups prefer to work together. bikers are very independent by nature and to think that any group would dictate to them what to do and not expect serious blowback just inst viable. i enjoyed the 6th family but christ that book made it seem like the rizzutos were the most powerful criminal org on earth so i tend to take all the hype with a grain of salt.
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#632372 - 01/30/12 05:03 PM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: Mussolini14]
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Originally Posted By: Mussolini14
Originally Posted By: Scorsese
This is what snitchin gets you in the hood.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/video/050809_Mob_Talk_Kaboni_Savage_Drug_Ring

Suprised they didnt move the guys family somewhere else.

As for the whole mafia vs mc/street gangs thing it would never happen because their activities are too different. The mobs main thing is gambling, loansharking extortion and labour racketeering.These sorts of things dont lead them into any competition with other groups except maybe eachother. With street gangs the only people that threaten them are other street gangs and drug traffickers. Bikers only really ever fight with other bikers because thats their priority to make sure other mcs stay out of their town.


You forgot drugs. Don't kid yourself ever mob family is involved in the drug trade. Granted they don't sell dime bags on the street corner but they supply and provide the trade routes. In a recent bust it came out that the Gambino's were overseeing the drug trade in Queens and reestablishing contacts with Mafia families in Italy to import heroin and cocaine.

sorry my bad
Yeah i know they are involved with drugs buts not on the level they used to. Their mostly midlevel traffickers with maybe some that are involved with the wholesale end. They dont control the supply or trade routes. In that case in queens they probably oversaw and supplied a significant number of dealers and collected tax off of them but they were probably being supplied by a different group altogether. Basically like everyother drug gang. Italian connection thing is from 2008 bust when they were attempting restablish drug trade with the sicilians but theres been no real evidence that they have.

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#632380 - 01/30/12 05:51 PM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: m2w]
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http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs38/38661/movement.htm#Top

Most drugs come from Mexico, with the exception of MDMA.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs38/38661/dtos.htm#Top

Italian OC only gets one mention in the report and it's buried in the section about Mexican groups.

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#632390 - 01/30/12 07:49 PM Re: Jack Tocco(detroit mafia)vsTaco Bowman(Outlawsmc) [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica]
Nicholas Offline

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Originally Posted By: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica
The fuck's a yom?


lol, sorry about that man. You of Italian descent? I know your Aussie, but there's a bunch of Calabrian descented peoples in Melbourne. Yom, is short for mulignon, an Italian-American term for blacks, originating from melanzina, or egg plant. It's not racist per se, though in Hollywood films and TV, it typically has a racist connotation. Though Italian-Americans are typically portrayed as prejudiced against, particularly, blacks which is a shame.

Mulignan is half-offensive depending on context, though has none of the connotation or history that other American racial epithets have.
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