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#629251 - 01/13/12 10:19 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Greenwald column

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Does anyone have any doubt whatsoever that if Iran were sending hit squads to kill Israeli scientists in Tel Aviv, or was murdering a series of American scientists at Los Alamos (while wounding several of their wives, including, in one instance, shooting them in front of their child’s kindergarten), that those acts would be universally denounced as Terrorism, and the only debate would be whether the retaliation should be nuclear, carpet-bombing, or invasion? As always, Terrorism is the most meaningless — and thus most manipulated — term of propaganda; it’s always what They do and never what We do.


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UPDATE: There’s one point that should be added about why this matters so much: the fact that Terrorism has no fixed meaning does not mean it is inconsequential. The opposite is true. Terrorism is one of the most consequential words in our political lexicon. The term designates Supreme, Unmitigated Evil. Once someone is successfully branded a Terrorist, it means that anything and everything can and should be done to them without constraints (e.g., sure, I don’t love the idea that the President — in secret and with no due process – can target my fellow citizens for assassination, but I support its being done to Anwar Awlaki because he’s a Terrorist; I don’t like detention without trial but I can live with it as it’s being used to imprison Terrorists; it’s terrible when we slaughter children with drones but it has to be done to get the Terrorists, etc. etc.).
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#629373 - 01/13/12 11:52 PM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Iran's Dangerous Game: Iran Doesn't Know How to Negotiate?

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These “signals” represent a complete misreading of what it takes to begin a negotiation with the Obama Administration. There’s a reason for that: the Iranians–not just the regime, but even the reform movement–have been isolated from the rest of the world for too long. They have no idea how to play the hand they’ve been dealt because they don’t know very much about the other players at the table.



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[The Obama Administration] began its steady, successful campaign of increasing economic pressure on the regime. Through smart, patient diplomacy, it did what no one thought possible–bringing the Russians and Chinese into the sanctions regime. And now, both the Obama Administration and Europe seem ready to impose even tighter sanctions on Iran’s oil industry.



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We’re at a dangerous moment right now. The Iranians need to understand in the most precise manner possible what the consequences of their various attempts at saber-rattling will be. They need to understand just exactly what sort of concessions they will have to make to get negotiations started.


http://swampland.time.com/2012/01/13/irans-dangerous-game/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+timeblogs%2Fswampland+%28TIME%3A+Swampland%29
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#629379 - 01/14/12 12:48 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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The lesson is there to follow. The Soviet Union fell for a number of reasons. One of them was the patience the US showed to allow Soviet leagers exposure to economic, political, and diplomatic alternatives. Eventually, that exposure caused conflicts within the Soviet hierarchy which allowed western ideas, products, and culture to find their way into the USSR and the people ate it up, demanded change, and got it. That paradigm will work with Iran.
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#629608 - 01/15/12 12:49 PM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague

Don't f@#% with the Mossad. whistle


I believe it's perfectly possible to suspect that Tel Aviv maybe didn't necessarily pull the trigger. Possible? Sure ofcourse. But I could say the same of Tehran's enemies like the Gulf States, America, etc.


That guy was of no consequence to Iran's nuclear program. To me, looked like an inside job, to infuriate ignorant Iranians. The thing is, we're a nation who believe everything is a conspiracy. Nothing is what it seems. Still many will get angry over this, good stuff before an election that many have boycotted.

It's sad to see Israel would keep quiet just to show off. ohwell
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#629609 - 01/15/12 12:51 PM Re: War with Iran? [Re: gemini_killer]
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Originally Posted By: gemini_killer



Has he done some Botox in between his eyebrows? *Thoghts of an Iranian, whose country in on the brink of a war.* lol
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#630551 - 01/19/12 08:24 PM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Neocon arguments for bombing Iran into....magic words!...Regime Change.

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/1...-change-in-iran
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#632416 - 01/30/12 10:35 PM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Why war with Iran would make the war in Afghanistan much more difficult?

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Shia Iran and the Sunni Taliban are not natural allies, they came close to war in 1998, but they are likely to work together against America if pressed. An American or Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear facilities would facilitate their rapprochement as Tehran seeks vulnerable openings. Senior Italian officials, with some 4,000 troops on a 300 mile long border frontier with Iran outside Herat, have told me they are horrified at the idea of a war with Iran and would immediately need substantial reinforcement.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/27/gop-candidates-are-wrong-to-urge-a-second-front-war-in-iran.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28The+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29
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#632437 - 01/30/12 11:38 PM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Here's a link to a thoughtful article on war with Iran:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/magazi...Iran&st=cse
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#632503 - 01/31/12 05:28 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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#632548 - 01/31/12 05:05 PM Re: War with Iran? [Re: Turnbull]
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Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Here's a link to a thoughtful article on war with Iran:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/magazi...Iran&st=cse


Very informative article..

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#632877 - 02/03/12 03:50 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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#632888 - 02/03/12 07:50 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Of course, I distinctly remember the same predictions 2 or 3 years ago about an Israeli attack the upcoming spring or summer. So take it for what it is. Sooner or later, though, Israel will probably have to act.
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#632892 - 02/03/12 08:50 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: Turnbull]
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Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Here's a link to a thoughtful article on war with Iran:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/magazi...Iran&st=cse


Very interesting article.
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#633161 - 02/05/12 06:27 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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With this recent Friday sermon by the supreme leader, seems like he wants a war. frown I really don't want a war. But if there's going to be a war, one without regime change is even worse. ohwell
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#633182 - 02/05/12 10:18 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: afsaneh77]
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With this recent Friday sermon by the supreme leader, seems like he wants a war. frown I really don't want a war. But if there's going to be a war, one without regime change is even worse. ohwell


I just don't see a war happening without regime change. People who think otherwise are kidding themselves.
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#633185 - 02/05/12 10:41 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
With this recent Friday sermon by the supreme leader, seems like he wants a war. frown I really don't want a war. But if there's going to be a war, one without regime change is even worse. ohwell


I just don't see a war happening without regime change. People who think otherwise are kidding themselves.


I happen to think we're headed where Iraq was heading. The first war was only to incapacitate Saddam, nothing more. As for Iran, since Obama would want to insist on his policy that only people of Iran should change their government (as if they could!), I think this war would only go as far as diminishing Iran's nuclear capabilities. ohwell But I really hope if there is a war, there would be a regime change. We've had it. frown
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#633434 - 02/07/12 12:10 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Bibi, Israel, curb your over-the-top war rhetoric toward Iran. I urge this as one who cherishes Israel and values military power. But you’ve got to understand that your constant threats to attack Iran to stop its nuclear program aren’t working. Unending military threats unite Iranians and fire up their resistance. Economic sanctions weaken and divide them—and often produce constituencies for compromise. Give sanctions time to play out.


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You cannot actually believe Iran will prostrate itself in the face of your threats. As Amos Yadlin, a retired Air Force general and former head of Israeli military intelligence, said Sunday: “These statements have reached the point where they have crossed the line from bringing benefit and are beginning to cause damage.” Your warnings will ignite war and will not foster Iran’s abandoning its nuclear program. Did Saddam Hussein kneel before George W. Bush’s threats? Did the Taliban handcuff itself when faced with America’s military might? Has Kim Jong-un bowed before his Western master? None capitulated even to the American superpower. Thus, it’s hard to believe that you truly calculate that Ayatollah Khamenei will cry “uncle.”


The most relevant points:

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Third, your attacks probably will destroy most of Iran’s nuclear facilities, but these can readily be reconstructed in one to two years—deeper and less vulnerable to future attacks. (Startling, last week, your Maj. Gen. Aviv Kochavi, the chief of Israeli military intelligence, stated publicly that Iran already had enough fissile material to build four nuclear bombs in one year. If true, that’s already enough to destroy Israel. So what’s to be gained by your attack?)


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Let me spell out what I think President Obama is saying to you: the unprecedented economic sanctions against Iran are already hurting and will hurt a lot more over the next year. Let them bite more. Meantime, the U.S. and Israel are both underlining to Tehran that all options are on the table. (That’s not a trivial phrase from a great power.) Israeli threats won’t reinforce the pressure from the sanctions; they’ll harden Iran’s heart. And we’ll all be heading for an incredibly dangerous war.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ar-on-iran.html


Edited by ronnierocketAGO (02/07/12 12:11 AM)
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#633493 - 02/07/12 04:36 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Obama Imposes Freeze on Iran Property in U.S.

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The White House moved to enforce tightened sanctions against Iran on Monday because of the country’s suspect nuclear program, freezing all property of the Central Bank of Iran, other Iranian financial institutions and the Iranian government in the United States.

The actions were announced in an executive order signed by President Obama that started the enforcement process for a tough measure he signed into law at the end of 2011. If fully carried out, that measure could isolate Iran’s central bank and effectively choke off the sale of Iranian oil by obstructing the means of payment. Most of the revenue for oil sales by Iran, one of the world’s biggest oil exporters, is processed by its central bank.


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#633497 - 02/07/12 05:00 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: IvyLeague]
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Of course, I distinctly remember the same predictions 2 or 3 years ago about an Israeli attack the upcoming spring or summer. So take it for what it is. Sooner or later, though, Israel will probably have to act.


i remember the same thing, i guess if it holds the same this time remains to be seen

panetta is a very respected guy as was gates, this past summer i met/worked with recently retired chairman of the joint chiefs mike mullen on some stuff in dc, very honorable/stand up guy

plus the pentagon was awesome if i do say so myself
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#633499 - 02/07/12 05:13 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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I wonder how much of this is accurate?

Iran’s Middle Class on Edge as World Presses In

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The rising economic panic has illustrated — and possibly intensified — the bitter divisions within Iran’s political elite. A number of insiders, including members of the elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, have begun openly criticizing Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, in recent weeks. One of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s aides indirectly accused Ayatollah Khamenei of needlessly antagonizing the West in ways that pushed down the rial’s value, the latest sign of a rift between the president and the supreme leader that is helping to define the parliamentary elections, which are scheduled for March 2.

“They criticize Ahmadinejad and even the supreme leader by name now; it’s not like before,” said Javad, the 45-year-old manager of a travel agency in north Tehran.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/world/...?ref=middleeast
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#633500 - 02/07/12 05:31 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: Dapper_Don]
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Of course, I distinctly remember the same predictions 2 or 3 years ago about an Israeli attack the upcoming spring or summer. So take it for what it is. Sooner or later, though, Israel will probably have to act.


i remember the same thing, i guess if it holds the same this time remains to be seen

panetta is a very respected guy as was gates, this past summer i met/worked with recently retired chairman of the joint chiefs mike mullen on some stuff in dc, very honorable/stand up guy

plus the pentagon was awesome if i do say so myself


I don't see how strategically Israel could pull off such a raid. They would have to transit the airspace of several countries which, if not prepared for them on the way in, would be prepared for them on the way out. In addition, Iran's nuclear facilities are spread over a very wide geographical area which would require quite a few attack aircraft and cover aircraft. I suppose we are talking about squadron strength. They are flying F-15s and 16s which are probably capable of defeating any thing that Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, or Iran could throw against them. But it's not 1981.
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#633503 - 02/07/12 05:46 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: olivant]
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Of course, I distinctly remember the same predictions 2 or 3 years ago about an Israeli attack the upcoming spring or summer. So take it for what it is. Sooner or later, though, Israel will probably have to act.


i remember the same thing, i guess if it holds the same this time remains to be seen

panetta is a very respected guy as was gates, this past summer i met/worked with recently retired chairman of the joint chiefs mike mullen on some stuff in dc, very honorable/stand up guy

plus the pentagon was awesome if i do say so myself


I don't see how strategically Israel could pull off such a raid. They would have to transit the airspace of several countries which, if not prepared for them on the way in, would be prepared for them on the way out. In addition, Iran's nuclear facilities are spread over a very wide geographical area which would require quite a few attack aircraft and cover aircraft. I suppose we are talking about squadron strength. They are flying F-15s and 16s which are probably capable of defeating any thing that Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, or Iran could throw against them. But it's not 1981.


with all the military aid/radar and satellite jamming stuff we've given the Israelis over the years im sure they can pull off such a raid across the airspace of these nations, they pulled it off against Iraq and Saddamm and Iran is just next door.

plus the Saudi's hate Iran and besides Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan and its King are very close US allies

so all that leaves is Syria which has its own problems now

the real questions is if they can get all the facilities successfully, but in reality if they managed to pull off such a feat it will just embolden Iran that much more to restart/continue with their nuclear ambitions. Also this will probably throw massive support from the Iranian people against the Israelis in turn bolstering the popularity of the Iranian government.


Edited by Dapper_Don (02/07/12 05:48 AM)
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#633512 - 02/07/12 06:40 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
I wonder how much of this is accurate?

Iran’s Middle Class on Edge as World Presses In

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The rising economic panic has illustrated — and possibly intensified — the bitter divisions within Iran’s political elite. A number of insiders, including members of the elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, have begun openly criticizing Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, in recent weeks. One of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s aides indirectly accused Ayatollah Khamenei of needlessly antagonizing the West in ways that pushed down the rial’s value, the latest sign of a rift between the president and the supreme leader that is helping to define the parliamentary elections, which are scheduled for March 2.

“They criticize Ahmadinejad and even the supreme leader by name now; it’s not like before,” said Javad, the 45-year-old manager of a travel agency in north Tehran.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/world/...?ref=middleeast


It's accurate. Some revolutionary guard personnel, those who served in war with Iraq have criticized Khamenei's behavior and compared it to the late Shah. Middle Class is being pushed below the poverty line, because they are the main opponents of the regime. There's massive economical panic across the nation. Dollar value is almost doubled from last April, and owning dollar bills are now a criminal offense. Everyone must give their dollars to the bank to be put into an account in their name.

Since it is traditionally acceptable for people to own gold, everyone is changing their liquid Rial properties into gold coins. Last week another law was put into effect that made taking gold out of the country illegal. There is huge request for gold coins at the bank and now they are getting orders for 4-6 months later, at almost twice the value of each coin last April. In other words economy is collapsing. Sepah, being in charge of everything imported into the country, faces real trouble to bring the goods here, since the UAE has halted the banking relations with Iran. Add to all these 4 Sepah members ages between 50-52 have died under suspicious circumstances. I wonder if there would be a military coup in the making, or if the Supreme Leader could avert these problems successfully. Add to all these Syria's recent problems and taking Iranians (probably members of Sepah) hostage in Syria. What's clear is that Iranian ties with Hamas could be weakening if Assad is to go and the next in line is not exactly friendly with Iran.

Things are bad here and will be getting worse. But to the point of people toppling the regime? I doubt it. When people are struggling to make ends meet, they are meeker than sheep. Unless there's a military coup and I'm not sure if the result of which would not be worse than present circumstances.
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#633907 - 02/09/12 07:04 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Iran’s Achilles’ Heel

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THE public debate in America and Israel these days is focused obsessively on whether to attack Iran in order to halt its nuclear weapons ambitions; hardly any attention is being paid to how events in Syria could result in a strategic debacle for the Iranian government. Iran’s foothold in Syria enables the mullahs in Tehran to pursue their reckless and violent regional policies — and its presence there must be ended.

Ensuring that Iran is evicted from its regional hub in Damascus would cut off Iran’s access to its proxies (Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza) and visibly dent its domestic and international prestige, possibly forcing a hemorrhaging regime in Tehran to suspend its nuclear policies. This would be a safer and more rewarding option than the military one.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/opinion/to-weaken-iran-start-with-syria.html?src=recg
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#634993 - 02/15/12 02:13 PM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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#635046 - 02/15/12 07:16 PM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Off-topic, but brainchild Richard Dreyfuss wrote this in the Nation:

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"It’s worth noting that the United States and Al Qaeda are on the same side in Syria."


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#635058 - 02/15/12 08:05 PM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Off-topic, but brainchild Richard Dreyfuss wrote this in the Nation:

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"It’s worth noting that the United States and Al Qaeda are on the same side in Syria."



Another self hating lefty actor who hasn't been relevant in over twenty years (if he was ever relevant to begin with). He should get together with Ellen Barkin, scream some more insane rhetoric in hopes that the attention will get them work. Newsflash, guys: It won't.

It's a shame, too. I always liked Dreyfuss as an actor. "Let it Ride" is one of my favorite popcorn comedies of all time.
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#635118 - 02/16/12 03:36 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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Iran trumpets nuclear advances, deepening standoff with West
By Parisa Hafezi | Reuters
February 15, 2012



TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran proclaimed advances in nuclear know-how on Wednesday, including new centrifuges able to enrich uranium much faster, a move that may hasten a drift towards confrontation with the West over suspicions it is seeking the means to make atomic bombs.

Tehran's resolve to pursue a nuclear program showed no sign of wavering despite Western sanctions inflicting increasing damage on its oil-based economy.

"The era of bullying nations has passed. The arrogant powers cannot monopolize nuclear technology. They tried to prevent us by issuing sanctions and resolutions but failed," President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said in a live television broadcast.
"Our nuclear path will continue."

However, Iran's Arabic-language Al Alam television said the government had handed a letter to EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton expressing readiness to "hold new talks over its nuclear program in a constructive way."

An Ashton spokeswoman confirmed receipt of the letter, saying she was evaluating it and would consult with the United States, Russia, China and other partners among the big powers.

Iran has long refused to negotiate curbs on its nuclear program, saying it is intended to produce electricity for booming domestic demand and for other civilian uses.

The United States and Israel have not ruled out military action against Iran if diplomacy and sanctions fail.

Washington however played down Iran's latest announcement, saying its reported advances were "not terribly new and not terribly impressive."

"We frankly don't see a lot new here. This is not big news. In fact it seems to have been hyped," a State Department spokeswoman said.

IRAN DENIES BANNING OIL EXPORTS TO EU

Iran's Oil Ministry denied a state media report that it had cut off oil exports to six European Union states.

"We deny this report ... If such a decision is made, it will be announced by Iran's Supreme National Security Council," a spokesman for the ministry told Reuters.

Iran's English language Press TV said Tehran had halted oil deliveries to France, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Netherlands and Spain -- its biggest EU customers -- in retaliation for an EU ban on Iranian crude due to take effect in July.

The Islamic Republic is the world's No. 5 oil exporter, with 2.6 million barrels going abroad daily, and the EU consumes around a fifth of those volumes.

With Western sanctions now spreading to block Iran's oil exports and central bank financing of trade, Tehran has been resorting to barter to import staples like rice, cooking oil and tea, commodities traders say.

The most recent talks between world powers and Iran failed in January 2011 because of Tehran's unwillingness to discuss transparent limits on enrichment, as demanded by several U.N. Security Council resolutions passed since 2006.

http://news.yahoo.com/iran-trumpets-atom-advances-deepening-standoff-west-121448512.html
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#635705 - 02/20/12 07:51 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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British foreign secretary William Hague unequivocally against unilateral Israeli action

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In an interview with BBC1's Andrew Marr Show, the Foreign Secretary repeated his warning that a nuclear-armed Iran would result in another cold war in the Middle East."They would either be attacked and there would be a war, or there would be a cold war in which Iran for the long term would be subject to these very intense economic sanctions and they would find that other nations in their region developed nuclear weapons," he said.

But he urged against military action, although he said it was not ruled out as an option. "I don't think a wise thing at this moment is for Israel to launch a military attack on Iran," he said.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...ary-action.html


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#635712 - 02/20/12 10:18 AM Re: War with Iran? [Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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March to War

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As a journalist, there’s a buzz you can detect once the normal restraints in your business have been loosened, a smell of fresh chum in the waters, urging us down the road to war. Many years removed from the Iraq disaster, that smell is back, this time with Iran.

You can just feel it: many of the same newspapers and TV stations we saw leading the charge in the Bush years have gone back to the attic and are dusting off their war pom-poms. CNN’s house blockhead, the Goldman-trained ex-finance professional Erin Burnett, came out with a doozie of a broadcast yesterday, a Rumsfeldian jeremiad against the Iranian threat would have fit beautifully in the Saddam’s-sending-drones-at-New-York halcyon days of late 2002.
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