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Re: How to prove italian roots
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http://www.lacndb.com/php/Info.php?name=Andrew%20CamposNew York| Andrew Campos Birth: 1968 Andrew Campos is a enforcer to the Gambino Family and is a made guy in the family. Because his name sounds Greek they first researched his wereabouts and found out he was of Italian descent. In 1986, as a senior at Mount St. Michael Academy, he was a quarterback for the football team. There he met then defensive back Sean Combs, aka P. Diddy. Combs is a well known rapper, owner of Bad Boy Records and one of the richest hiphop stars. Combs himself has been involved in shootings and was part of the east-west coast 'war' in the 1990's. After there highschool days they both chose their way of living, both becomming very rich out of it. Combs went to intertainmant (now earns +/- $300 million a year) and Campos to the Mafia, where he was most involved in one of the largest consumer fraud in American history, one that cost unwary consumers $750 million from related schemes involving phone sex and internet porn. After all these years Combs and Campos stay friends. Sources claim that fellow mobsters of Campos have attainted recording sessions of Combs. In 2004 Campos was indicted in a "telephone cramming" scheme that grossed to $600.000 a day. He was sentenced to 27 months & had to pay $300.000.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
[Re: Don Pappo Napolitano]
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http://www.lacndb.com/Info.php?name=Richard Gomes New York| Richard Gomes Birth: 1933 Death: December 2006 Gomes met and befriended John Gotti in the 1960s when both were small time hoods doing time at the federal prison in Lewisburg. Gomes became a made man in the Gambino Crime Family. He showed Gotti his absolute loyalty by participating in the killing of John Favara, who killed the 12-year old son of Gotti in a accident. He personally went to Gotti afterwards to say that the dirty work was finished. Gomes died at an age of 73 of natural causes. He was found dead by two of his nieces, it is raported that when they found Gomes dead, a picture of Gotti was hanging in his appartment.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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chris rosenburg was going to get made heard this in a documentary all chris had to do is change his last name to demeo and for roy demeo to claim him as a son, since roy discovered him and along the line chris earn became a heavy earner made alot of profit. Jesse Jackson had a better shot at becoming a made guy . Rosenberg was a bloodthirsty, psychopathic piece of shit anyway. He wouldn't have gotten made even if he was Italian. An innocent 19 year old kid ended up getting killed because DeMeo didn't act fast enough in taking Rosenberg out. You reap what you sow. Rosenberg got what he deserved just for being a common, bloodthirsty murderer.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
[Re: botz]
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but in the documentary it did explain this about rosenberg about all he had to do to be made. The mob cares most about profit. With all due respect it doesn't matter what some narrator on a documentary said. 100+ years of mafia tradition> one narrators opinion. It is also common knowledge that Rosenberg dreamed about getting made but everyone knew he was a Jew. Perhaps had no one known him and then he changed his name to Demeo he might have had a chance but everyone including big Paul knew he was of Jewish ancestry and as Ivy said Demeo himself barely got made because big Paul had a rather low opinion of the Demeo crew.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
[Re: botz]
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Yeah Demeo and that crew were in the sales of narcotics which Paul didn't like, Paul didn't like drugs. If I can find the documentary it was really good more detailed actually, but your right Paul knew what he was and so did everyone else, and Paul wasn't going to let that happen he was a strict man. Maybe if it was someone like John Stanfa he might agree to this about Rosenberg being made, and the rest of the steps of what I said. Greed gets them all and that's how they go down. Out of all the Godfathers I would think Rosenburg would have had the best chance of being made by Stanfa forsure. With him being Sicilian you would think he would have been more old school but he bent more rules than anyone when it came to blood lines.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
[Re: Don Pappo Napolitano]
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Curious... would I have made it??
Grandpa was Calabrese Grandma was Siciliana
Both on my dad's side.
Yeah, right? But oh, I was adopted and don't know WTF I am really. Does blood really matter that much, or does family line rule?
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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Curious... would I have made it?? No. Bloodline and family roots aside, a real don doesn't wear shorts.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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Curious... would I have made it?? No. Bloodline and family roots aside, a real don doesn't wear shorts. Still, J Geoff had more of a chance then Rosenberg ever did. Donnie Brasco claimed to have been adopted, and it didn't seem to matter with those guys. If you had happened to be of "that persuasion" (read: homicidal douche), I reckon you would have been "Italian enough" to make the grade J Geoff!
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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But oh, I was adopted and don't know WTF I am really.
You're sexually confused .
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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Hey, Ron Previte was an ex-cop and God knows what origins the name Previte is derived from. Previte and Previti are well common North Eastern Sicilian (Messina) lastnames. Ron Previte is a 2nd-generation Italian-American on both sides of his family. His parents' folks moved to the Southern NJ\South Eastern PA areas. The crazy thing about him getting made is that he was an ex-cop. Jeez, Stanfa was supposed to be an old-school Zip... What about Martines? Was his lastname mispelled form the Italian "Martinis" (with an I) or was he of Spanish descent?
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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I usually check this website when checking if a name is Italian. http://www.gens.info/italia/it/turismo-v...11#.UnjmGHC-2SoBut sometimes some names don't show up. Was Thomas “Pee Wee” DePhillips Italian? Also Gerry DeNono from Chicago and John DeRoss. There was a couple others too but I can't think off the top of my head. Is the website above accurate? Thanks.
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Makes you think. Makes you think about the people in your life. And when I think, I think of Neil. If he were here now what would he say? He would say "John what's it about? What's life about... if you dont go through it as a man's man?". He'd say "Suck it up, take the fall do the time. That made you what you are. That makes you what you are. How long have we been around this thing of ours? This Cosa Nostra? 120 years. What's it about? It's about the rules, perimeters. You take the beating for a friend, you don't run, you don't lay down, you don't betray who you are. What you are.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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I believe Anthony Senter had a relative with the surname Vulpis. Both Italians.
I can think of - using Italian footballers as an example - a few more with surnames not ending in vowels: Cois, Pasqual, Maran, De Laurentiis, Guidolin, Pellissier.....
It is also worth noting that in an effort to assimilate, people from certain countries, like neighbouring Slovenia, will Italianise their surnames. An example would be the forebears of the great Italian footballer, Paolo Maldini. His surname was originally "Maldic".
It is also worth noting that there are huge cultural differences between the North and South of the country and different characteristics in different regions.
There are areas of Italy where it is not uncommon to find people with red hair. There are several footballers with flame roots, including Davide Biondini and Alessandro Gazzi.
Meanwhile, The great Francesco Totti, one of my favourites, has the Roman nose but pale skin and brown hair.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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I believe Anthony Senter had a relative with the surname Vulpis. Both Italians.
I can think of - using Italian footballers as an example - a few more with surnames not ending in vowels: Cois, Pasqual, Maran, De Laurentiis, Guidolin, Pellissier.....
It is also worth noting that in an effort to assimilate, people from certain countries, like neighbouring Slovenia, will Italianise their surnames. An example would be the forebears of the great Italian footballer, Paolo Maldini. His surname was originally "Maldic".
It is also worth noting that there are huge cultural differences between the North and South of the country and different characteristics in different regions.
There are areas of Italy where it is not uncommon to find people with red hair. There are several footballers with flame roots, including Davide Biondini and Alessandro Gazzi.
Meanwhile, The great Francesco Totti, one of my favourites, has the Roman nose but pale skin and brown hair. Also Gianluigi Buffon. Speaking of footballers, my Fabio Cannavaro is still THE hottest man on the planet.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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I showed that map/name location search to Italian friends and they put their last names in and they said it was very inaccurate. Also names that end in vowels are not always Italian as they can be Spanish, or from Latin America. It's largely a myth that in order to be "made" or join la famiglia you must be fully Italian on both sides of your family. Sometimes people get in because of Italian heritage from a certain region passed on from generations ago as they're born into it and they do not have an Italian last name. They said that Pistone is a Sicilian last name and that's Donnie Brasco's actual name, and apparently he was not adopted. Could a person from Argentina or South America be made in the mob. Argentine people mostly have Italian last names and other south American countries? Possibly they could join IOC factions in those countries if they were foolish enough to want to do this and had a death wish.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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Frank D'Amato made a few guys that weren't Italian but they had to give him a few blowjobs.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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Frank D'Amato made a few guys that weren't Italian but they had to give him a few blowjobs. Was he bisexual? This sounds odd but I know some gay men who would find the idea of that to be something they would like.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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there a guy around were I live that its pretty common knowledge hes adopted and hes a made guy guess it don't matter as long as you have a Italian last name to join the mob. the guy is nuts and stabs and shoots, he wont be out anytime soon anyway, You're Irish. Right, pmac? Just asking because I'm curious about how the Irish and Italians get along in Boston today, Down here I think we've come to the realization that we're better off with each other than with some of the newer immigrants (I mean as far as the street is concerned, I'm not being racial or anything like that ).
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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there a guy around were I live that its pretty common knowledge hes adopted and hes a made guy guess it don't matter as long as you have a Italian last name to join the mob. the guy is nuts and stabs and shoots, he wont be out anytime soon anyway, If this supposed guy is that open and violent he's probably not 'made', or in la famiglia, and it's just a rumour he spread about himself, or other people did for him since he's just a street thug that is violent.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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[quote=Beanshooter]Hey, Ron Previte was an ex-cop and God knows what origins the name Previte is derived from. It's not surprising Mr. Previte became a rat.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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These days, in some families (Genovese, Gambino) you still have to be 100% Italian to be made. In those weaker and smaller...on your dad's side.
You don't have to prove your roots. Your lastname is either Italian or isn't. And most guys that get involved are from the same areas\neighborhoods. That is no longer true at all and it's a myth. If they only limited it to people who are as you put it "100% Italian" nobody would be able to join in the United States or in other countries besides Italy. Granted yes you do have to have an Italian heritage/background but you do not have to be fully Italian, or have an Italian heritage on only your father's side.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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These days, in some families (Genovese, Gambino) you still have to be 100% Italian to be made. In those weaker and smaller...on your dad's side.
You don't have to prove your roots. Your lastname is either Italian or isn't. And most guys that get involved are from the same areas\neighborhoods. In the United States those groups of people you mentioned are considered powerful by the media; but compared to ones in Italy from the island, they are weak and unorganized. But Mr. Stanfa is correct compared to where he is from, the United States and IOC here is "like Kindergarten". Either way the idea that you simply must be completely Italian, or have an Italian last name or heritage on your father's side in order to join or be "made" is a myth. At one time 100s of years ago or close to 70 years ago it was like that but it has not been that way for decades.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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It's simple. Drop your pants. If you're not circumcised, you're from the old country. LOL! A lot of people are not doing this in the United States. I have American friends who did not have it done and they're never going to have it done as it is pointless. I know a lot of Italian American men who are not cut as 3rd/4th/5th generation Italian Americans but their parents and grandparents are against it. If I had male children it would not be done because Hispanics and Latinos both in the USA and around the world do not do it. Even Jewish people in Spain and Latin America do not always do it. But the majority of men around the world are not cut and in many cultures/countries it's seen as genital mutilation.
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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I think its around 50/50 now in the united states. The last holdouts are more conservative white folks and those that do it for religious reasons.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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I think its around 50/50 now in the united states. The last holdouts are more conservative white folks and those that do it for religious reasons. I feel bad for guys who do it as an adult .
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It's simple. Drop your pants. If you're not circumcised, you're from the old country. LOL! A lot of people are not doing this in the United States. I have American friends who did not have it done and they're never going to have it done as it is pointless. I know a lot of Italian American men who are not cut as 3rd/4th/5th generation Italian Americans but their parents and grandparents are against it.If I had male children it would not be done because Hispanics and Latinos both in the USA and around the world do not do it. Even Jewish people in Spain and Latin America do not always do it. Those are some pretty intimate conversations you and your friends have.
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It's simple. Drop your pants. If you're not circumcised, you're from the old country. LOL! A lot of people are not doing this in the United States. I have American friends who did not have it done and they're never going to have it done as it is pointless. I know a lot of Italian American men who are not cut as 3rd/4th/5th generation Italian Americans but their parents and grandparents are against it.If I had male children it would not be done because Hispanics and Latinos both in the USA and around the world do not do it. Even Jewish people in Spain and Latin America do not always do it. Those are some pretty intimate conversations you and your friends have. A lot of them are gay or bisexual men and are just, very open or we can talk about anything. Some I have known for decades so it's just like that.
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I think its around 50/50 now in the united states. The last holdouts are more conservative white folks and those that do it for religious reasons. I feel bad for guys who do it as an adult . Rightfully so. Lived it and it was absolutely horrible. It was a necessary evil, but I'm going to spare the details
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Re: How to prove italian roots
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You know you're Italian when...
1) You're 5' 4", bench-press 325 pounds, and shave twice a day, but you still cry when your mother yells at you.
2) Your father owns five houses and has $300,000 in the bank, but still drives a '76 Monte Carlo.
3) You share a bathroom with your five brothers and have no money, but drive a $45,000 Camaro or Firebird.
4) Your mechanic, plumber, electrician, accountant, and travel agent are all blood relatives.
5) You consider a cannoli dunked in espresso a nutritious breakfast.
6) Your two best friends are your cousin and your brother-in-law's brother-in-law.
9) At least five of your cousins live on your street.
10) All five of those cousins are named after your grandfather.
11) A high-school diploma and one year of Nassau Community College have earned you the title of "Professore" among your aunts.
12) You are on a first-name basis with at least eight banquet-hall owners.
13) If someone in your family grows taller than 5' 6", it is presumed his mother had an affair.
14) There were more than 28 people in your bridal party.
15) You netted more than $50,000 on your first communion.
16) At some point in your life, you were a D.J.
17) Thirty years after immigrating, your parents still say, "Pronto," when answering the phone.
18) If you have ever been in a fight defending Sly Stallone's thespian greatness.
19) Somewhere on your parents' property there is a bathtub Madonna.
20) You build your house with three materials: brick, brick and wrought iron.
21) You have at least one sister who went to beauty school.
22) Clothes from the Chess King actually fit you.
23) It is impossible for you to talk with your hands in your pockets.
24) You have been to a funeral where talk of the deceased is, "He shoulda kept his big yap shut."
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