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How to prove italian roots #615572
09/24/11 08:04 PM
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To be made...In the past your father and mother had to have italian roots, lately just the father.

1-What if just the mother has italian roots and the guy changes legally his last name being called by his mother`s last name? Can he be made?
2-The one who wants to be made has to show his father and mother`s ID due to prove his roots?

How does a guy prove his roots?


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Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615576
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These days, in some families (Genovese, Gambino) you still have to be 100% Italian to be made.
In those weaker and smaller...on your dad's side.

You don't have to prove your roots. Your lastname is either Italian or isn't.
And most guys that get involved are from the same areas\neighborhoods.

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615580
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A few guys (Jimmy Marcello and Tommy DelGiorno) managed to "pull the wool", so to speak, in that they were only half Italian. And Stanfa (for whatever reason) decided he'd "make" Veasey, who was Italian on his mothers side. I think Chucky Porter was another one. John Gotti famously broke the rule to induct his son.

But as Ivy's says, it seems that nobody who wasn't at least part Italian ever got made.


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Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: LuanKuci] #615592
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Originally Posted By: LuanKuci
These days, in some families (Genovese, Gambino) you still have to be 100% Italian to be made.
In those weaker and smaller...on your dad's side.


The Genovese family is known for having stricter standards, though I'm not sure how much enforcing the 100% Italian thing comes into it. As for the Gambinos, Andrew Merola isn't 100% Italian and he was made. To say nothing of Junior Gotti.


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Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615596
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Whats Merola's ethnicity on his mother's side? Irish?


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Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #615621
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@ mickey_meatballs_demonica

Let's not forget about Anthony Senter.

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615622
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I think with Senter, you may have to go back hundreds of years to find the non-Italian link, in that region Senter was from there has been over the centuries various nationalities who moved there such as Germans and Swiss. I think it would be a bit ridiculous to say he wasn't an Italian.

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: NickyScarfo] #615625
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Yeah so you would say that Senter is italian but with bavarian-austrian descendents.

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615627
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I would say (though not 100%) that in his relatives, generations ago there would be a link of that nature, yes.

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615682
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senter was never made a member of the mafia

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615683
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True that. He was just an associate. Italian, but not made.


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Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615687
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Senter, along Onger, Venier and Nember are very common in North Eastern Italy.
They are an hybrid result of the Austrian and French occupations.
Some, during Fascism, where "Italianized": OngerI, VenierO\I, etc...

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: LuanKuci] #615701
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yeah the northern italians in these regions can have not italian like names such places like friuli-venezia giulia, trentino-alto adige/south tyrol, val d'aosta, parts sardinia, veneto and piedmont.

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615702
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somebody was asking an interesting question would the mafia make a corsican in there organization corsica was part of italy at one time under genoa

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615889
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but would senter have to be made because he killed demeo?

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This was a really good post learned a few things. I would imagine killing DeMeo would have gotten Senter made.

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615906
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No Senter was never made by the Gambino's for the DeMeo hit, not long after it he drifted into working for the Lucchese family. There's no way in the 2 years between the hit and Castellano's murder Paul would of made Senter, he had a low opinion of that crew.

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615911
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Andrew Campos now calling himself Andrew Campo, a Gambino Capo is Puerto Rican, but mom is Italian!.

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615918
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it's impossible campo's father is puertorican they couldn't made him

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615919
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There is truth to the claims about Campo's heritage I think, though I can't remember if it was his mothers side...come on its all so watered down, most of these guys have never even been to Italy, loads of guys getting made are mixed races now, though the Genovese is still pretty strict.
On another note, apparently Campos went to school with P Diddy and played on the same football team. LOL

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Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615921
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http://www.lacndb.com/php/Info.php?name=Andrew%20Campos

New York| Andrew Campos

Birth: 1968
Andrew Campos is a enforcer to the Gambino Family and is a made guy in the family. Because his name sounds Greek they first researched his wereabouts and found out he was of Italian descent. In 1986, as a senior at Mount St. Michael Academy, he was a quarterback for the football team. There he met then defensive back Sean Combs, aka P. Diddy. Combs is a well known rapper, owner of Bad Boy Records and one of the richest hiphop stars. Combs himself has been involved in shootings and was part of the east-west coast 'war' in the 1990's.

After there highschool days they both chose their way of living, both becomming very rich out of it. Combs went to intertainmant (now earns +/- $300 million a year) and Campos to the Mafia, where he was most involved in one of the largest consumer fraud in American history, one that cost unwary consumers $750 million from related schemes involving phone sex and internet porn. After all these years Combs and Campos stay friends. Sources claim that fellow mobsters of Campos have attainted recording sessions of Combs. In 2004 Campos was indicted in a "telephone cramming" scheme that grossed to $600.000 a day. He was sentenced to 27 months & had to pay $300.000.

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: furio_from_naples] #615923
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Campos and P. Diddy were Class of '87 at Mount Saint Michael. Pizzaboy was class of '77 at the Mount.


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Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: Don Pappo Napolitano] #615924
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Birth: 1933

Death: December 2006

Gomes met and befriended John Gotti in the 1960s when both were small time hoods doing time at the federal prison in Lewisburg. Gomes became a made man in the Gambino Crime Family. He showed Gotti his absolute loyalty by participating in the killing of John Favara, who killed the 12-year old son of Gotti in a accident. He personally went to Gotti afterwards to say that the dirty work was finished.

Gomes died at an age of 73 of natural causes. He was found dead by two of his nieces, it is raported that when they found Gomes dead, a picture of Gotti was hanging in his appartment.

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chris rosenburg was going to get made heard this in a documentary all chris had to do is change his last name to demeo and for roy demeo to claim him as a son, since roy discovered him and along the line chris earn became a heavy earner made alot of profit.

Re: How to prove italian roots [Re: botz] #615985
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Originally Posted By: botz
chris rosenburg was going to get made heard this in a documentary all chris had to do is change his last name to demeo and for roy demeo to claim him as a son, since roy discovered him and along the line chris earn became a heavy earner made alot of profit.


He was never going to get made. He certainly dreamed about it though, and called himself Chris DeMeo. But everyone knew he wasn't Italian. Roy himself barely got made.


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Campos sounds Greek? Since when? That's as spanish as Cuchi cuchi is to Charo! Come on he grew up in the Bronx. Everyone knew his Mom was banging Capo Richie Martino! His Mom by the way is beautiful! The father was a neighborhood PR! They claimed they did the check, but then again he was making Millions for them on that Internet Scam, that even if he was Asian, they would have made him. That is why they dropped the (S) from his name! He was a great quaterback in High School and P Diddy sat on the bench!

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Are you from the Bronx, Beanshooter?


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Grew up there!

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I'll pm you.


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Originally Posted By: botz
chris rosenburg was going to get made heard this in a documentary all chris had to do is change his last name to demeo and for roy demeo to claim him as a son, since roy discovered him and along the line chris earn became a heavy earner made alot of profit.

Jesse Jackson had a better shot at becoming a made guy tongue.

Rosenberg was a bloodthirsty, psychopathic piece of shit anyway. He wouldn't have gotten made even if he was Italian. An innocent 19 year old kid ended up getting killed because DeMeo didn't act fast enough in taking Rosenberg out.

You reap what you sow. Rosenberg got what he deserved just for being a common, bloodthirsty murderer.


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