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Dominick Montiglio and Nino Gaggi #613856
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What do you think about these two? Murder Machine (which relied a lot on Dominick) claimed he was in the know on a lot of family matters and of course the DeMeo crew, do you think this is accurate? Albert DeMeo says Dominick embellished a lot of his stories.
Nino Gaggi strikes me as a figure who was a stand up guy, he was disciplined, old school, he would kill you in a heart beat but wasn't a cowboy like Roy DeMeo. There are few mobsters like him today. What are your opinions on what he thought about the Castellano hit? Did he know??!!

Re: Dominick Montiglio and Nino Gaggi [Re: NickyScarfo] #613872
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Dom would know more about the DeMeo crew than Albert.
His father wouldnt have told him very much about that.
I believe Dom.
I think Albert knows that had his father not been killed then he would have been arrested a few months later on the word of Dom.
(Dom turned informant months after Demeo's murder)

Re: Dominick Montiglio and Nino Gaggi [Re: NickyScarfo] #613873
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I felt sorry for Dom, Nino obviously had a large hand in raising him to be a criminal. I wonder what became of Nino's kids?

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Originally Posted By: NickyScarfo
I felt sorry for Dom, Nino obviously had a large hand in raising him to be a criminal. I wonder what became of Nino's kids?


I think his kids became sucessful white collar workers, same with DeMeo's kids. I'm not sold on Montiglios honesty, didn't he lie about his time in the military?

Re: Dominick Montiglio and Nino Gaggi [Re: NickyScarfo] #613889
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I'm sure Dom embellished a bit but is the best source to know more about Nino and Roy. I really believe Roy to been a good father that didn't want his children involved in his activities therefore, I believe Al only knew so much and made allot up in his book to make money off his father and the crew because lets face it its a great story and allot of people are interested. Nino wanted Dom as a son and to be like him and thats why Dom was so involved and a better source for the DeMeo crew because he dealt with them on a regular basis.

Re: Dominick Montiglio and Nino Gaggi [Re: NickyScarfo] #613891
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What I would give to hear an interview with Anthony Senter! Though it will never happen.

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I think all informants embellish their stories from time to time especially when they are pressed by the fbi. But i think montiglio is better than henry hill. I mean he has talked a lot about roy's murders and all the info checks out. Also he was the nephew/surrogate son to a highly respected capo so i think he was involved almost as much as the made guys are. I mean his main job was to bring money to nino or to paul from the demeo crew.

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the deal with his embelishment from the miltary was that capeci investigated a little bit more when he showed pics of dom to the guys he supposedly served with. none of the guys recognized him or recall him being with their outfit. all govt records are sealed about him because of his informant status. no one will ever really know the truth i guess. it dosent matter because he is single handly the most knowledgae person about the demeo/gaggi crews beside the other guys who are all now dead. albert demeo sucks. his book sucked as well.


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Re: Dominick Montiglio and Nino Gaggi [Re: phatmatress] #613983
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I wouldnt say Al DeMeo or his book suck.
Al's book is one of the best I've ever read.
It shows the real side of having a gangster for a father - its not as cool as you would think.
Doms military background is the subject of dispute but as someone said his records were locked when he entered witness protection (although he has long since left the program).
Nino Gaggi used Dom. Dom was a handy gopher and it was better for the cops to clock Dom meeting with the Gemini crew than Nino himself. I alos would love to hear joey or Anthony talk but it'll never happen.

Re: Dominick Montiglio and Nino Gaggi [Re: NickyScarfo] #614246
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I always admired Ninno

Re: Dominick Montiglio and Nino Gaggi [Re: NickyScarfo] #614256
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I definitely put more weight towards Montiglio's account. Albert DeMeo's is biased by virtue of perspective. He was too close to the subject matter. He offers some terrific insight to DeMeo as a man and father, but as far as his criminal exploits...well there's a reason everybody raves about "Murder Machine".

You know the glasses Nino always wore? Like big reflective aviators? I think he had an eye condition or something, but hell, I want glasses like his. They're awesome.


(cough.)
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Nino was a real Cosa Nostra guy.

Re: Dominick Montiglio and Nino Gaggi [Re: phatmatress] #692667
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Wanted to pull this back up because I finally read the Dominick part of "Stolen Valor," which, frankly, is not that impressive. The authors first summarize the Dom stories from "Murder Machine," then say they call Capeci...

Capeci's on deadline, curt, says he'll call back and never does.

They call Gene Mustain, however, and he's interested, listens to their doubts about Dom's story-- esp. his length of training, age in Nam etc-- and Mustain takes it from there, even flying to reunion of the LRPP ("Lurp") unit Dom said he served in. THEY don't recognize his photo, say he got the battle at Dak To all wrong etc... Okay.

So what DID Dom do in the Army and Nam? Some have taken the "Stolen Valor" schtick to mean he wasn't in the Army at all, the whole fucking thing was a ruse but I find that extremely unlikely...

While it's likely or even almost certain Dom has embellished his service record, the idea it's a complete fabrication doesn't wash.

Q: Would Walter Mack and Dept of Justice gone along with or instigated that cover up from the start?

Q: Would not Nino's lawyers have seized on this if his record was an obvious fraud?

I'm not expert in searching Viet Nam era military records but I have to believe there's proof Dom served somewhere-- contemporary Brooklyn newspaper or casualty/commendation reports... the latter of which it does NOT sound like the "Stolen Valor" guys even tried to find.

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dom in nam his personal pics just has green beret airborne on his uniform and medals

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I'll say one thing for certain that i don't believe in his book and that's that he said to roy demeo who he believed had a rooster neck ''fuck you rooster, cock a doodle doo''

i also seen him give different versions of stories on tv..its hard to keep all your lies straight !!

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Originally Posted By: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica
I definitely put more weight towards Montiglio's account. Albert DeMeo's is biased by virtue of perspective. He was too close to the subject matter. He offers some terrific insight to DeMeo as a man and father, but as far as his criminal exploits...well there's a reason everybody raves about "Murder Machine".

You know the glasses Nino always wore? Like big reflective aviators? I think he had an eye condition or something, but hell, I want glasses like his. They're awesome.


Montigilio has been proven to be a fabricator by book Stolen Valor, and way he changes his stories. I thought DeMeo's son was forthcoming in his book, and id not try to say his father was an innocent victim. That has to be tough for a son to do.

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fact: DonMega gets good pictures. "good" as in "pics I never seen"

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Originally Posted By: southend
fact: DonMega gets good pictures. "good" as in "pics I never seen"


lol i have my connections ahhahah

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These are all doms from his dark visions dvd so maybe this will help you guys narrow it down what platoon or something he was in

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Murder Machine was the first book i ever read about the mob and it was such an amazing book I ended up reading it about five or six times over the years,needless to say the first time I read it I was hooked on mob history a little more-so than even whemy father told me about my uncle when i was a younger kid. Nino Gaggi always was an admirable wiseguy to me because of his style and how he was so oldschool and just plain 110% Cosa Nostra,flat out. And I like how he never once visited Gotti at his headquarters to pay homage and respect for being the new boss of the family.

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Originally Posted By: southend
Murder Machine was the first book i ever read about the mob and it was such an amazing book I ended up reading it about five or six times over the years,needless to say the first time I read it I was hooked on mob history a little more-so than even whemy father told me about my uncle when i was a younger kid. Nino Gaggi always was an admirable wiseguy to me because of his style and how he was so oldschool and just plain 110% Cosa Nostra,flat out. And I like how he never once visited Gotti at his headquarters to pay homage and respect for being the new boss of the family.


Gaggi was only out of prison for a month or 2 during Gotti's reign if im not mistaken.

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Originally Posted By: Benny_Eggs
Originally Posted By: southend
Murder Machine was the first book i ever read about the mob and it was such an amazing book I ended up reading it about five or six times over the years,needless to say the first time I read it I was hooked on mob history a little more-so than even whemy father told me about my uncle when i was a younger kid. Nino Gaggi always was an admirable wiseguy to me because of his style and how he was so oldschool and just plain 110% Cosa Nostra,flat out. And I like how he never once visited Gotti at his headquarters to pay homage and respect for being the new boss of the family.


Gaggi was only out of prison for a month or 2 during Gotti's reign if im not mistaken.


You're right Gotti had Paul killed while Nino was on trial.

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I also agree with others that Dom gives the best account. Much of his information was vetted by the FBI and US Atty. He could have exaggerated some in the book as well as on TV interviews but not so much in court. Defense attorneys would have eaten him alive. As far as his military service is concerned, I suspect he was a member of the 173rd Airborne Brigade (Because of those patches) possibly in a rear area where he would hear a lot of stories. I don't buy some of his "Combat stories. If you look at the photo of his Army memorabilia on this site, the black red and gold parachute wing background oval has two "Tic" marks along the left and right edges. This is a battalion indicator meaning that the wearer is a member of the 2nd Ranger Bn. The 2nd Ranger Bn was established in 1974- after the VN war was over so I call BS on that. How long does he claim he was in??? He claims Airborne, Ranger and Special Forces training. Boot camp is 2 months, Jump school 3 weeks, advanced Infantry training 2 months Ranger school 2 months and Special Forces training up to one year. So.... why would the army put him through Special Forces training and then assign him to the 173rd??? Not very likely at all. just my 2 cents.

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It should be pretty easy to verify if he was Special Forces, no?

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Dominick Montiglio is my father and one thing that I can say about him is that he did serve in Vietnam. He was a Green Beret and did one tour in Vietnam.I was there to see him go through the nightmares so please don't direspect the time he served for our country.

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Originally Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times
It should be pretty easy to verify if he was Special Forces, no?

I read the government either sealed or pulled all Montiglio's files including his military files when he flipped.

Either way he was in the army and he was in Nam. What he did there i do not know.

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There are interviews contained in the Dark Visions doc with some of the men Montiglio served with in Vietnam. If he's "lying" then they're "lying" too.

Personally, that doesn't strike me as the case because none of these other men, to my knowledge, have ever done any other Montiglio related interviews before.

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Originally Posted By: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica
I definitely put more weight towards Montiglio's account. Albert DeMeo's is biased by virtue of perspective. He was too close to the subject matter. He offers some terrific insight to DeMeo as a man and father, but as far as his criminal exploits...well there's a reason everybody raves about "Murder Machine".

You know the glasses Nino always wore? Like big reflective aviators? I think he had an eye condition or something, but hell, I want glasses like his. They're awesome.


According to Murder Machine, Gaggi had poor eyesight, which kept him out of WW2.

This always struck me as kind of funny when you think about what Gaggi said to Montiglio about enlisting in the Army himself.

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Originally Posted By: camarie
Dominick Montiglio is my father and one thing that I can say about him is that he did serve in Vietnam. He was a Green Beret and did one tour in Vietnam.I was there to see him go through the nightmares so please don't direspect the time he served for our country.


Really? My dad was Chuckie English, Dom ever meet him?

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Originally Posted By: camarie
Dominick Montiglio is my father and one thing that I can say about him is that he did serve in Vietnam. He was a Green Beret and did one tour in Vietnam.I was there to see him go through the nightmares so please don't direspect the time he served for our country.



How does anyone know if you are being truthful regarding him being your dad?

Why is it that in the book Stolen Valor they said no one who served in the unit he claimed he had been in had ever heard of him ?

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