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#605232 - 06/11/11 02:25 AM Cesare Bonventre
Mussolini14 Offline

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On his wiki profile it says he killed over 20 people, and in this article http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,923698,00.html , it claims he was planning on going to war with the Gambino family. Can anyone shed some light on whether or not this was true and who some of his more high profiled victims were? Also was he really 6'9' tall? Seems incredibly tall for an Italian.

Thanks for your time.

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#605233 - 06/11/11 03:50 AM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
TonyG Offline

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He was one of Carmine Galante's killers. They found 5 different slugs in him, and there were only 3 shooters that arrived.
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#605239 - 06/11/11 06:51 AM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
GaryH Offline

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He was incredibly tall.
He was whacked apparently because he was summoned to a meeting with boss Rusty Rastelli.
Rusty said something that Bonventre didnt like and so he (Bonventre) got up and walked out.
You CANNOT dis-respect a boss like that and expect to live.
Bonventre seemed an arrogant son of a bitch.

He was also a capo who had the honour of having Tony Mirra under him.
I wonder what Mirra's reaction was when he learned he had to answer to a kid half his age?

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#605250 - 06/11/11 05:41 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: GaryH]
Mussolini14 Offline

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Originally Posted By: GaryH
He was incredibly tall.
He was whacked apparently because he was summoned to a meeting with boss Rusty Rastelli.
Rusty said something that Bonventre didnt like and so he (Bonventre) got up and walked out.
You CANNOT dis-respect a boss like that and expect to live.
Bonventre seemed an arrogant son of a bitch.

He was also a capo who had the honour of having Tony Mirra under him.
I wonder what Mirra's reaction was when he learned he had to answer to a kid half his age?



I thought he was killed because Massino viewed him as a threat? Where did you hear he walked out on Rastelli? I'm not saying you are wrong, just curious what book you read it in.

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#605251 - 06/11/11 05:49 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
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Joey Massino revealed it during his recent testimony

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#605253 - 06/11/11 05:57 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: GaryH]
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Originally Posted By: GaryH
Joey Massino revealed it during his recent testimony


Does anyone know if Big Joey's trial testimony is posted online anywhere? I had not heard that about Bonventre, and would love to read about it.
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#605259 - 06/11/11 07:29 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: TonyG]
Mussolini14 Offline

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Originally Posted By: TonyG
Originally Posted By: GaryH
Joey Massino revealed it during his recent testimony


Does anyone know if Big Joey's trial testimony is posted online anywhere? I had not heard that about Bonventre, and would love to read about it.



Me too, thanks GaryH.

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#605263 - 06/11/11 08:35 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
GaryH Offline

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Here you go guys.......



He (Joey Massino) also explained the rationale behind another mob rubout: Disrespect. While he was on the lam in 1984 – ducking trial for the murders of three capos in 1981 – Massino said he learned from Rastelli’s brother and his own brother-in-law Salvatore Vitale, who was then a capo, that Rastelli was planning to whack Cesare Bonventre, a member of the family’s Sicilian faction who had extorted about $600,000 from a drug dealer who was close to Rastelli.

When Bonventre was called on the carpet about it by Rastelli, not only did he deny the allegation, “he got insulted” by the inquiry and “got up and walked away,’ without so much as a polite good bye to his already steaming Mafia boss.

“You can’t do that with bosses,” said Massino. “That’s why he died.”


http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=600169

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#605276 - 06/12/11 02:42 AM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica Offline
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Bonventre, like Baldo Amato & the other Zips, were definitely more dangerous then the average wiseguy.
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#605290 - 06/12/11 12:39 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
tiger84 Offline

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that was a great read i also have some questions

1 He forced Mafia Don Frank Lupo, 56, out of his established territory
How could one made man muscle another made man out of his territory.Wounldnt there be sitdowns and isnt that against the rules????

2 Finally, he talked of going to war with the powerful Gambino family.
Why was this and how could a soldier make a desicion like that without the bosses permission??

3 I wonder y Baldo Amato never became a boss or any position in the adminstration.He seems he has that aura about him

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#605304 - 06/12/11 04:00 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
Mussolini14 Offline

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thanks for all the replies guys.

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#605309 - 06/12/11 06:07 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
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Isn't funny that the Bonanno's are considered one of the weakest of the 5 families when they had all the nutcases. Bonventre,Amato,Lefty,Mirra,Pitera,bruno

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#605311 - 06/12/11 06:19 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: JCrusher]
Mussolini14 Offline

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Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Isn't funny that the Bonanno's are considered one of the weakest of the 5 families when they had all the nutcases. Bonventre,Amato,Lefty,Mirra,Pitera,bruno


Every family has it's share of nutcases. I don't think the Bananno's had any more nutcases than any other family, and Lefty, Pitera and Mirra were notoriously small time, only soldiers. Not like they had a huge influence. Lefty was always broke. Having guys like that certainly wouldn't help the family gain prominence.


Edited by Mussolini14 (06/12/11 06:20 PM)

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#605313 - 06/12/11 06:21 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
Sonny_Black Offline

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The Bonannos always were one of the smaller families in New York, but despite that they always were pretty strong actually. The only family in New York that you really could consider to be weak are the Colombos.
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#605315 - 06/12/11 06:24 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
JCrusher Offline

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I never said that i think the Bonanno's were big time. I also didn't say they were the toughest. I just don't hear about them as much as other guys. lefty Ruggiero was a degenerate gambler, mirra was a good earner but was only a soldier, and pitera was obviously the bruce lee of the mob but wasn't boss material. Thats what i meant

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#605318 - 06/12/11 06:40 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: JCrusher]
Mussolini14 Offline

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I thought you were saying it was a surprise they weren't stronger because they had guys like Lefty, Mirra snd Patera ect. My bad man.

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#605319 - 06/12/11 06:44 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
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No problem.

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#605324 - 06/12/11 07:28 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
GaryH Offline

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Bonventre was dangerous because as a Zip he thought differently to USA guys.
Also he was a capo at 28 - that must have gone to his head and made him power hungry.

Pitera was a vicious animal.
Mirra was a handful - most other soldiers were afraid of him

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#605330 - 06/12/11 07:36 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: GaryH]
JCrusher Offline

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ya he was very young to be a captain. Also I think Mirra was in his crew which makes you wonder how their conversations went lol

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#605333 - 06/12/11 07:44 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: JCrusher]
GaryH Offline

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I've long wondered what Mirra's reaction was when he learned that he had to report to a kid half his age!
LOL

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#605335 - 06/12/11 07:47 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
JCrusher Offline

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ya considering his reputation as a knife man but I think he knew that Cesare was not to be messed with.

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#605340 - 06/12/11 07:53 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
GaryH Offline

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I think the scariest Bonnano man was Tommy Pitera

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#605342 - 06/12/11 07:57 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
JCrusher Offline

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Ya his story is something you would see in a movie. a boy gets his ass kicked every day in school. Then he watches the green hornet and wants to become Bruce lee as a lot of younger kids probably did. he not only learns karate but becomes a master in Japan. Comes back and becomes a ruthless killer. Surreal

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#605343 - 06/12/11 08:02 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
GaryH Offline

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I assume you have seen the Pitera documentry on youtube...........its scary stuff isnt it?

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#605344 - 06/12/11 08:12 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
JCrusher Offline

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ya and read the book

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#605346 - 06/12/11 09:07 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: JCrusher]
Mussolini14 Offline

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Is it a good read? How many people was he convicted of killing? How many do they estimate he actually killed?

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#605348 - 06/12/11 09:31 PM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
JCrusher Offline

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I think he was convicted of like 6 or something and they estimated that he might have killed 60

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#637431 - 02/29/12 09:45 AM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
Skinny_Vinny Offline

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Anyone know what Queens garage Bonventre was killed in?

I wonder what Brooklyn neighborhood Bonventre lived in? I figure he lived around Knickerbocker in Bushwick.

Bonventre is one of the most fascinating personalities.

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#637437 - 02/29/12 10:33 AM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: tiger84]
Skinny_Vinny Offline

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Originally Posted By: tiger84
that was a great read i also have some questions

1 He forced Mafia Don Frank Lupo, 56, out of his established territory
How could one made man muscle another made man out of his territory.Wounldnt there be sitdowns and isnt that against the rules????

2 Finally, he talked of going to war with the powerful Gambino family.
Why was this and how could a soldier make a desicion like that without the bosses permission??

3 I wonder y Baldo Amato never became a boss or any position in the adminstration.He seems he has that aura about him


Baldo Amato eventually ran the Giannini Crew in Ridgewood, Queens. That's all he ever amounted to.

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#637438 - 02/29/12 10:38 AM Re: Cesare Bonventre [Re: Mussolini14]
Skinny_Vinny Offline

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Originally Posted By: Mussolini14
On his wiki profile it says he killed over 20 people, and in this article http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,923698,00.html , it claims he was planning on going to war with the Gambino family. Can anyone shed some light on whether or not this was true and who some of his more high profiled victims were? Also was he really 6'9' tall? Seems incredibly tall for an Italian.

Thanks for your time.


Is there a way to read that Time article without paying? From the first paragraph, it looks interesting.

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