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St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts #587826
12/11/10 03:06 PM
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“Not that the so-called mob here was any great shakes. It was strictly minor league,” stated one police officer, asking not to be identified. “We never had mainliners; here they came under the jurisdiction of Chicago. Even Kansas City had more of a mob, and more muscle than St. Louis.”
– St. Louis Post-Dispatch, March 19, 1997.

St. Louis Crime family Chart
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1957/stluoiscrimefamily.jpg
for the lack of information, I may have committed errors on the family of St. Louis.I got the information on the members them on this site.
http://realdealmafia.com/stlouischart.html

Chicago Outfit Family Chart
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7967/outfitt.gif
the chart isn't mine, I found it on imageshack

Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: furio_from_naples] #587832
12/11/10 03:51 PM
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That chart comes from the Real Deal forum. It was already posted here in another topic.


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: Sonny_Black] #587834
12/11/10 03:57 PM
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Yes the Chicago outfit chart was posted here earlier, but the St Louis chart looks good. Lets see what Ivy thinks of it, i havent got much insight on the St Louis family


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Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: Mukremin] #589030
12/24/10 10:20 AM
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Awesome charts. Except one issue. Under the Elmwood Park associates, you have the Castaldo brothers listed. They are from Melrose Park.

Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: joey1717] #589058
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St. Louis is basically defunct. It has nowhere near that many made guys left. And when somebody is labeled a "soldier" or higher, that implies they are made.

According to the FBI, there were 35 members in 60's, 17 in 1980, andless than 10 in late 80's. Following that same trend, how many is there likely to be 20 years after that?

From what I've seen, you've basically got a handful of made guys left there - Anthony "Nino" Parrino, Joseph Cammarata, Frank Palazzolo, Fernando "Nondo" Bartolotta, and maybe Vincent Giordano. Plus whatever associates are still around.

And the complete lack of mob activity there for the past two decades supports this.

Once again, don't always take charts you find on the internet at face value.


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Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: Sonny_Black] #659974
08/13/12 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
That chart comes from the Real Deal forum. It was already posted here in another topic.




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Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: furio_from_naples] #659985
08/13/12 03:46 PM
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so nino parrino and the other wiseguys left in st.louis are all retired? or maybe they asnwer directly to chicago

Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: furio_from_naples] #659990
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Thats very unlikely though m2w, You think they would know some members/associates of the Outfit? Let alone have connections to Chicago?


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Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: furio_from_naples] #660003
08/13/12 04:56 PM
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if they are not retired and they have not an own family anymore they should answer to somebody according to mafia rules
in sicily when a family has only a few made men left is put under the supervision of a next one


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